Its not just the differences. The developers seem hell-bent on making installation difficult. For example, before Ximian (which takes a page out of Window's book) installing GNOME was a hell session of downloaded dozens of dependency RPMs. KDE still has tons of RPMs to install. Hell, upgrading my GNU tools in Windows is probably easier than doing it in Linux. In Windows, Cygwin has a nice GUI installer. All I do is check of the packages I want, and *poof* they're installed. If I want updates, I can do that too. Most people have no problem running a simple setup utility to install a program. But once you get into using multiple files and dependency checking, you've lost people.
A large majority of the computing population never uses extra PCI slots, and most probably don't even know what their purpose is.
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I'd say that this is a pretty charged statement. Saying something like that indicates that you are part of the group who considers "lusers" to be lower lifeforms. If that's not what you meant, then I'm sorry of misjudging you. However, be careful how you phrase things in the future.
A large majority of the computing population never uses extra PCI slots, and most probably don't even know what their purpose is.
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You just pull that number out of your ass? Almost all of the people I know (they're just regular computer users) know how to do basic things like put in add-in cards or upgrade memory. I hate all those elitist bastard-nerds that think that "everyone else" are some lower form of life than can't grasp simple concepts!
Photoshop? coming.... Office? coming.... Quicken? available now. Granted, they aren't here for OSX yet, with the exception of Quicken, but they were never available for BeOS in the first place.
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I think you're making a fundemental error here. These apps would have come to BeOS, had Apple chosen it was its next operating system. The only counter-arguement concerns the existing NeXT userbase. None of the old NeXT apps are being supported. Thus, both OS-X and BeOS would have started with essentially the same application support. Porting old NeXT apps might be easier, but neither Photoshop, Office, nor Quicken (and most other big-ticket products) are NeXT programs. It would have been just as hard (or easy) to port Quicken to BeOS as to port it to NeXT. Thus, the existing app-base would have little to do with OS-X's app base.
I know "honor" and "valor" don't really mean that. But in the course of history, has honor and valor *ever* meant in reality what it does in the dictionary?
unfortunately our society and country as a whole is getting soft. Valor has been replaced with rhetoric, honour has been replaced with egotism, and courage replaced with bravado and posturing.
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That's a damn good thing. Back when "valor" and "honor" ruled humanity, politics was one big pissing contest between world leaders. It is "valor" that encourages a suicide bomber to take out a club, and "honor" that keeps those in the middle east at each other's throats. At least developed countries now do "sissy" things like politcal mudslinging, rather than "manly" things like try to kill each other...
Sorry to tell you this but in many parts of the world, fighting still isn't something out of the scope of daily life.
Just because we can all cuddle together at night doesn't mean everybody else gets to do so.
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The rest of the world should just wake up and join the times. Where I come from, one party winning an election would prompt the other party to call for rioting of the populace. This type of behavior is no longer acceptable in the modern world. People's attitudes need to change, and change fundementally. It is easy to say, "Americans can afford to think differently," but honestly, there are several poor countries that enjoy a degree of political and social stability. Besides, those in the middle east don't really have the excuse of poverty, since most middle eastern countries have adequate resources.
That's my point. While people might advocate violence in the name of religion, it doesn't not mean that the religion condones it. Both Islam and Christianity were minor religions at one point and the "Holy War" clauses were needed to defend the religion. Neither religion advocates violence against innocent people.
2. I strongly disagree with Bush claiming these attacks being "cowardly acts". I think, that organizing and implementing such plan takes extreme courage, even if performed by a mad man, which I don't think is a case. One should have a clear head to plan all this.
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There is no way anybody can argue that this is not an act of a coward. I'm muslim, and I hate these terrorists for making all muslims out to be cowards. These people are cowards on several points:
A) They did not officially declare war. Attacking a country at peace is the act of a coward.
B) They attacked civilians who were just going to work in the morning. These people aren't the ones responsible for America's foreign policy, they aren't the ones championing capitalism all over the world. They were simply people going to work in the morning. Killing in war is something horrible, but maybe unavoidable. Killing in peace is just murder.
C) They might have had a clear head, but being smart (no doubt, whoever organized this was smart as hell) doesn't make one any less evil.
D) It takes no courage to take out ones anger on innocents. It takes real courage to stand up for one's self within the framework of society.
We don't live in a world anymore where violence is condoned. The majority of the civilized world has moved on to a point where violence isn't even considered. In the US, the worst thing that can happen to a politician is that some pundit calls him stupid on TV, or some cameraman catches him taking a shit. Being assasinated by an opposition party isn't even within the realm of thought. Those who still live by the baser human instincts of killing one's enemies should be "replaced", just as modern humans replaced their primitive ancestors.
The Democrats started the "low cost housing" idea--besides ruining the lives of many poor people and increasing crime rates--each apartment is worth about $20. Well, school funding is based on property taxes and local millages....
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If there were no "low cost housing," then there would be more homeless and you'd have set of problems.
If you want fair schools, take funding entirely to the state level so every school gets equal dollars per student or have free private school charters for everyone. (Republican ideas.)
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Taking funding to the state level wouldn't change anything. Many states (VA for example) are even less competent than the national government. Every school getting equal tax dollars would work better, but
A) Rich suburbanites would never agree to it
B) Its a socialist idea.
As for free private school charters, you might as well say "give all schools enough money." There is no practical difference between the government paying for private schools (what charters would amount to) and the government paying public schools, and most private schools are not in locations that would be easily accessible to the poor.
As for the US bombing everyone... We only do what the UN says. And it's not just the US that's the army of the UN. Most Democratic countries bomb along with us--you just don't hear anyone complaing about it. It's in style to hate the US.
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Bullshit. The UN *is* the US. Who is there to stand against us? France! Ha! In the UN, whatever the US says, goes. While people might complain, and the US might make a few concessions to keep someone in the security council from voting something down, the US gets its way in the big issues. Take economic sanctions against Iraq for example. France, China, and Russia favor easing or lifting economic sanctions on Iraq. France, China, and Russia are three of the five permanent members of the UN security council, and all have veto powers.
Not really. The only provision for violence in Islam is Jihad (Holy War). There are similar provisions in Christianity that were used to justify the Crusades. Both "clauses" are left over from a time when the world was a less civilized place, and fighting wasn't something out of the scope of daily life.
According to this page WDM (Windows Driver Model, used in 2K+ and 98+)is just a subset of NT's driver model. Thus, if PetrOS is compatible with NT drivers, it will be compatible with future Windows drivers.
Actually, the page pointed to *all* of Microsoft's scripting technologies. The implementations of various ones are dependant on the app, of course. However, Visual C++'s scripting (I don't use it though) seems pretty good from the docs. What exactly are you trying to do with it?
B: But X exists already! Sure you don't like parts of it, by why throw out the baby with the bathwater! We can improve it and make it work better.
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Ah, but if you've got the evil demon baby on your hands, you'd best through it out with the bath water!
I think that's a pretty awful idea (with Java anyway). A lot of OS code tends to be really sensitive, and the Java garbage collecter comming in at the wrong time could really f**k things up. Its just like the race conditions with multithreading, only without the tangible benifets.
If you think that QNX6 and QNX4 are the same thing, you are more of a newbie luser than even positing a stupid AC comment on slashdot would indicate. HTH
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Intel C++ can do incredible stuff. It schedules for modern procs extremely well, does code parallelization, inter-procedure optimization, and supports OpenMP directives (direcetives that tell a compiler how run code on multiple procs). I don't claim to understand all its features, but its damn good. Visual C++'s compiler is pretty good also, and both are better than GCC. Since $400 is a drop in the bucket for most software companies, Intel's compiler is probably quite frequently used (since it has great error messages and good C++ conformance as well).
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But were they graphical? That's the main point. He wrote a graphical OS in ASM.
-- IA64 cannot officially be called "dumb" yet.
-- RDRAM was a mistake, but it wasn't just Intel. Nintendo bought into RDRAM, as did Sony and several graphics card makers. RDRAM fizziling was NOT something that could have been predicted. I kept up with the reporting back when RDRAM was still called nDRAM (as in unknown), and nobody expressed any objects.
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Apparently, this poster things that cutting edge designs get written at the moment of their release.
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Its not just the differences. The developers seem hell-bent on making installation difficult. For example, before Ximian (which takes a page out of Window's book) installing GNOME was a hell session of downloaded dozens of dependency RPMs. KDE still has tons of RPMs to install. Hell, upgrading my GNU tools in Windows is probably easier than doing it in Linux. In Windows, Cygwin has a nice GUI installer. All I do is check of the packages I want, and *poof* they're installed. If I want updates, I can do that too. Most people have no problem running a simple setup utility to install a program. But once you get into using multiple files and dependency checking, you've lost people.
A large majority of the computing population never uses extra PCI slots, and most probably don't even know what their purpose is.
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I'd say that this is a pretty charged statement. Saying something like that indicates that you are part of the group who considers "lusers" to be lower lifeforms. If that's not what you meant, then I'm sorry of misjudging you. However, be careful how you phrase things in the future.
A large majority of the computing population never uses extra PCI slots, and most probably don't even know what their purpose is.
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You just pull that number out of your ass? Almost all of the people I know (they're just regular computer users) know how to do basic things like put in add-in cards or upgrade memory. I hate all those elitist bastard-nerds that think that "everyone else" are some lower form of life than can't grasp simple concepts!
Photoshop? coming.... Office? coming.... Quicken? available now. Granted, they aren't here for OSX yet, with the exception of Quicken, but they were never available for BeOS in the first place.
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I think you're making a fundemental error here. These apps would have come to BeOS, had Apple chosen it was its next operating system. The only counter-arguement concerns the existing NeXT userbase. None of the old NeXT apps are being supported. Thus, both OS-X and BeOS would have started with essentially the same application support. Porting old NeXT apps might be easier, but neither Photoshop, Office, nor Quicken (and most other big-ticket products) are NeXT programs. It would have been just as hard (or easy) to port Quicken to BeOS as to port it to NeXT. Thus, the existing app-base would have little to do with OS-X's app base.
I know "honor" and "valor" don't really mean that. But in the course of history, has honor and valor *ever* meant in reality what it does in the dictionary?
unfortunately our society and country as a whole is getting soft. Valor has been replaced with rhetoric, honour has been replaced with egotism, and courage replaced with bravado and posturing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
That's a damn good thing. Back when "valor" and "honor" ruled humanity, politics was one big pissing contest between world leaders. It is "valor" that encourages a suicide bomber to take out a club, and "honor" that keeps those in the middle east at each other's throats. At least developed countries now do "sissy" things like politcal mudslinging, rather than "manly" things like try to kill each other...
Sorry to tell you this but in many parts of the world, fighting still isn't something out of the scope of daily life.
Just because we can all cuddle together at night doesn't mean everybody else gets to do so.
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The rest of the world should just wake up and join the times. Where I come from, one party winning an election would prompt the other party to call for rioting of the populace. This type of behavior is no longer acceptable in the modern world. People's attitudes need to change, and change fundementally. It is easy to say, "Americans can afford to think differently," but honestly, there are several poor countries that enjoy a degree of political and social stability. Besides, those in the middle east don't really have the excuse of poverty, since most middle eastern countries have adequate resources.
That's my point. While people might advocate violence in the name of religion, it doesn't not mean that the religion condones it. Both Islam and Christianity were minor religions at one point and the "Holy War" clauses were needed to defend the religion. Neither religion advocates violence against innocent people.
WDM is source compatible only, that's true.
2. I strongly disagree with Bush claiming these attacks being "cowardly acts". I think, that organizing and implementing such plan takes extreme courage, even if performed by a mad man, which I don't think is a case. One should have a clear head to plan all this.
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There is no way anybody can argue that this is not an act of a coward. I'm muslim, and I hate these terrorists for making all muslims out to be cowards. These people are cowards on several points:
A) They did not officially declare war. Attacking a country at peace is the act of a coward.
B) They attacked civilians who were just going to work in the morning. These people aren't the ones responsible for America's foreign policy, they aren't the ones championing capitalism all over the world. They were simply people going to work in the morning. Killing in war is something horrible, but maybe unavoidable. Killing in peace is just murder.
C) They might have had a clear head, but being smart (no doubt, whoever organized this was smart as hell) doesn't make one any less evil.
D) It takes no courage to take out ones anger on innocents. It takes real courage to stand up for one's self within the framework of society.
We don't live in a world anymore where violence is condoned. The majority of the civilized world has moved on to a point where violence isn't even considered. In the US, the worst thing that can happen to a politician is that some pundit calls him stupid on TV, or some cameraman catches him taking a shit. Being assasinated by an opposition party isn't even within the realm of thought. Those who still live by the baser human instincts of killing one's enemies should be "replaced", just as modern humans replaced their primitive ancestors.
The Democrats started the "low cost housing" idea--besides ruining the lives of many poor people and increasing crime rates--each apartment is worth about $20. Well, school funding is based on property taxes and local millages....
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If there were no "low cost housing," then there would be more homeless and you'd have set of problems.
If you want fair schools, take funding entirely to the state level so every school gets equal dollars per student or have free private school charters for everyone. (Republican ideas.)
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Taking funding to the state level wouldn't change anything. Many states (VA for example) are even less competent than the national government. Every school getting equal tax dollars would work better, but
A) Rich suburbanites would never agree to it
B) Its a socialist idea.
As for free private school charters, you might as well say "give all schools enough money." There is no practical difference between the government paying for private schools (what charters would amount to) and the government paying public schools, and most private schools are not in locations that would be easily accessible to the poor.
As for the US bombing everyone... We only do what the UN says. And it's not just the US that's the army of the UN. Most Democratic countries bomb along with us--you just don't hear anyone complaing about it. It's in style to hate the US.
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Bullshit. The UN *is* the US. Who is there to stand against us? France! Ha! In the UN, whatever the US says, goes. While people might complain, and the US might make a few concessions to keep someone in the security council from voting something down, the US gets its way in the big issues. Take economic sanctions against Iraq for example. France, China, and Russia favor easing or lifting economic sanctions on Iraq. France, China, and Russia are three of the five permanent members of the UN security council, and all have veto powers.
Not any more. Read the Safety page
Also, as for gay blood doners, HIV/AIDs rates have changed in demographic, and now mainly affect the inner city.
He probably read Clancy's "Executive Orders." In it, a secret service agent was a "sleeper" and tried to assasinate the president.
Not really. The only provision for violence in Islam is Jihad (Holy War). There are similar provisions in Christianity that were used to justify the Crusades. Both "clauses" are left over from a time when the world was a less civilized place, and fighting wasn't something out of the scope of daily life.
According to this page WDM (Windows Driver Model, used in 2K+ and 98+)is just a subset of NT's driver model. Thus, if PetrOS is compatible with NT drivers, it will be compatible with future Windows drivers.
Actually, the page pointed to *all* of Microsoft's scripting technologies. The implementations of various ones are dependant on the app, of course. However, Visual C++'s scripting (I don't use it though) seems pretty good from the docs. What exactly are you trying to do with it?
OS/2's REXX is also pretty famous. Sorry I forgot to mention those!
So this stuff doesn't actually exist?
Neither does AppleScript?
And BeOS can't really be scripted.
Also, Framemaker scripting is just a figment of my imagination.
As for piping information, you've obviously never used Cortex.
Your comments are totally devoid of any basis in reality. Its just like saying "CLI apps are automatically hard!"
B: But X exists already! Sure you don't like parts of it, by why throw out the baby with the bathwater! We can improve it and make it work better.
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Ah, but if you've got the evil demon baby on your hands, you'd best through it out with the bath water!
I think that's a pretty awful idea (with Java anyway). A lot of OS code tends to be really sensitive, and the Java garbage collecter comming in at the wrong time could really f**k things up. Its just like the race conditions with multithreading, only without the tangible benifets.
If you think that QNX6 and QNX4 are the same thing, you are more of a newbie luser than even positing a stupid AC comment on slashdot would indicate. HTH
Intel C++ can do incredible stuff. It schedules for modern procs extremely well, does code parallelization, inter-procedure optimization, and supports OpenMP directives (direcetives that tell a compiler how run code on multiple procs). I don't claim to understand all its features, but its damn good. Visual C++'s compiler is pretty good also, and both are better than GCC. Since $400 is a drop in the bucket for most software companies, Intel's compiler is probably quite frequently used (since it has great error messages and good C++ conformance as well).
But were they graphical? That's the main point. He wrote a graphical OS in ASM.
-- IA64 cannot officially be called "dumb" yet.
-- RDRAM was a mistake, but it wasn't just Intel. Nintendo bought into RDRAM, as did Sony and several graphics card makers. RDRAM fizziling was NOT something that could have been predicted. I kept up with the reporting back when RDRAM was still called nDRAM (as in unknown), and nobody expressed any objects.
Apparently, this poster things that cutting edge designs get written at the moment of their release.