I know people with rattlesnakes in their backyard who would disagree with your calling hunting with a handgun "bullshit"
Good for you. I live in Australia where we have the 5 most deadly snakes in the world. Your rattlesnakes are piss poor in comparison.
In Australia we have very tough gun laws. You can get a lisence for a handgun, but the regulations are pretty stringent. Effectively it needs to kept at a target range, stored in a safe.
Our need for handguns to kill snakes is much larger than yours. Somehow we seem to survive.
All that graphical crap is just that: crap. It doesn't count. The core of XP is 2K.
Besides, don't trust me, read the MSDN documentation, which says windows 2000 has a major version of 5 and a minor version of 0, while XP has a major version of 5 and a minor version of 1.
ie 2K = 5.0, XP = 5.1
XP is a reskinning of 2K (or at least until the release of SP2), that is all. And the skin is a tiny part of the OS.
I'd agree, although it is helpful to have a base to start working from, even if you then customise that heavily.
On a slighltly unrelated not, I believe we are seeing a slowdown in the adoption and release of new languages. Why? Because codebases are growing, in particular codebases with customisation. Codebases are larger and more complex than they have ever been, and they are only growing. The end result of this is that the pain of porting is just too large.
It doesn't matter how good $new_tool_or_language is, we have achieved lockin.
Take the app I am working on. It is around 70,000 lines of ASP for the web app part. Supported by maybe half that in a mix of VB, VBS and perl. As the sole programmer on this, I am not going to recode the lot just to port to.Net. So new stuff is written in.Net, and we are trying to migrate the onlder stuff across bit by bit. Conceivably there might be classic ASP code still in the app 5 years from now. This is life.
I can learn enough to get by in a new language in a matter of days. However it months or years to learn to program well in that language. Perl is the one exception to this, in that nobody can program well in perl.
The interesting thing about.Net is just what the preferred means of development on that platform are.
I recently moved from developing code in ASP, to ASP.Net. I know classic ASP inside out, and have developed effective best practices for writing in that language. It is always interesting moving to a new language because you need to work all that stuff out again.
Anyway, after working with ASP.Net for about 6 months I find that I am only able to use a small subest of the language. Not because I am unable to use the full language, but because some of it is just not appropriate.
Take for example forms validation. Using this you can validate forms either client or server side. However the client side validation is not cross browser compatible, and the server side stuff doesn't work the way I would like it to. Result: I run my own custom code. I am going against recommended practices for.Net, but according to my best practices, this is the way forward.
I am aware of that. However googling for information brought up a number of articles where people researched this anecdote. In not one single link did I find any mention of a court case where this was demoed. On the other hand I found a number of people who all attributed the source of the anecdote to the John Dvorak article I mentioned.
If this really ocurred in court I would expect to find that someone had posted the transcript online. Particularly something as explosive as this.
Frankly it looks and smells like a urban myth. It also looks as though either the poster that I was responding to has further embellished the story.
Lastly, I would suggest that you read some of the articles brought back by the link to a google search result. It would have saved you having to type your comment.
Unfortunately/. doesn't seem to have this as an option.
However I can note you down on my personal mental list as someone: - Who either was home schooled/is home schooling their kids, hence needs to justify the decision (or at least that is what I infer from your fervent defence of the practice, please correct me if I am incorrect) - Who cannot argue a point, but instead resorts to rhetorical techniques - Who brings the Open Source movement into disrepute
A quick search brings back some results for this, however it does not appear to be corroborated. It certainly does not appear that the demonstration was in court, otherwise one would expect some sort of court records of this kind of thing.
The only source seems to be a John Dvorak article from 1996. John has more of a reputation for controversy than reliablility.
So it does sound more like an urban myth than reality, but it may be true.
I saw "The Aviator" recently, which is an excellent movie.
That was one of the things that impressive about the character portrayed in the movie was his determination and his willingless to risk his own life. Note I say the character potrayed in the movie because I am wary taking anything portrayed in a movie as history. In the movie, he flew his own experimental planes, including a spyplane which crashed. In that crash one lung collapsed, his heart moved, he had burns to 70% of his body, 8 ribs were shattered and he had both legs broken. It was by no means certain that he would live.
He also broke the top speed for aircraft, travelled around the world in record time.
The guy might have been mentally unstable, but he achieved things.
Or Steam. This may seem a little offtopic, but Steam is a framework for fps games. Updates to Steam are shipped out automatically. Everyone gets the updates when they log on.
You are still tying together two unrelated things.
1. Planes crash into WTC where his company has offices 2. He quits job because he doesn't like it.
AFAIK the WTC attacks were not attacks on a particular company, more attacks on America in general. They were not aimed at his company because of the way they treated their employees.
First off, it is utterly incorrect to call only call a gun a weapon when it is fired at a living target. That is equivalent to saying that what I am using something for defines what it is. So I use my Thinkpad T41 as a frisbee, therefore it is a frisbee. Or fiance is sitting on my lap, therefore I am a chair.
The difficulty is that there are many kinds of guns, and some are more weapon-like than others. That said there are some guns that are clearly weapons aimed at killing people. For example, outside target shooting & security guards, I see no need for handguns.
On that note, suppose you do have a handgun that is just used for target shooting. If it is only used for target shooting, and you recognise that it has the potential to be used as a weapon, then it should be regulated to ensure that it can only be used for target shooting. For example, requiring that it be stored at the target range.
One thing that frustrates me in the move from C++ to C# is the lack header files. A well written header file is largely all the documentation you need for a class.
What is even dumber about it is that the market for ringtones is going to die. As phones become media players, the ringtone can be anything you already have as an electronic file. My phone (Nokia 6230) can already use an MP3 as a ringtone, and it is has been on the market for around a year now.
You continue to fail to address much of what I say, relying on rhetoric to prove your point. I have read your slashdot comments with some interest in the past, sometimes with approval. However, since you have demonstrated your inability to argue a point, I am placing you in my foes list. Answer my comment and I might remove you from there. Then I will do you the courtesy of answering the comment you have made here.
As you admit, you've based your conclusions on a too-small sample size.
Certainly, but I cannot see that kids will get as much social interaction with kids their own age if they are home schooled. Social interaction is key to developing normal social relations.
At least you're honest about being wrong.
You fail logic 101, but pass in rhetoric 101. I said no such thing. The fact that the sample I have is small, does not imply that I am wrong, merely that I do not have enough evidence to support my position. You have not produced any evidence to disprove my position, so my anecdotal evidence outweighs your zero evidence.
YMMV as I do not live in the US and it is possible that our school system (Aus) is somewhat better than yours.
Have I pissed you off yet? I just want to know because your sig warns that I shouldn't and I am interested to know why. You'll use strawman arguments? Hyperbole? Sarcasm?
You seem to have issues with tense. Let me rewrite your sentence for you, with the correct tense.
Since the vast majority of the SQL Server codebase was straight from Sybase...
Version 4.2 of SQL Server, which ran orignally on OS/2 was a joint Sybase/MS product. MS then made the decision that OS/2 was not the platform of the future and ported 4.2 to NT (this is in 1992). Indeed ported might not be the best way to describe it, because it involved a huge amount of re-writing of code, including the kernel. One thing led to another and in 1994 the partnership between Sybase and Microsoft ended. Sybase then ported System 10 (their version of SQL Server 4.2) to NT.
Since then there have some major releases in SQL Server's history, 6.0 7.0 and 2000.
To argue that SQL Server's codebase is from Sybase is FUD. Clearly Microsoft hasn't got a patent on that and open source trolls are free to spread their own FUD.
If you enjoy the thought of that and want to read something that contains similar concepts, try reading some Kafka. It is a lot bleaker, a lot darker. I've only read "The Castle" (which is unfinished) and "The Trial", so I can't comment on any of his other work. I'd reccommend "The Trial. Very appropriate for current US society.
I'd say The Trial is in fact more interesting than Catch 22 in this context. Catch 22 is easier to read though.
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I know people with rattlesnakes in their backyard who would disagree with your calling hunting with a handgun "bullshit"
Good for you. I live in Australia where we have the 5 most deadly snakes in the world. Your rattlesnakes are piss poor in comparison.
In Australia we have very tough gun laws. You can get a lisence for a handgun, but the regulations are pretty stringent. Effectively it needs to kept at a target range, stored in a safe.
Our need for handguns to kill snakes is much larger than yours. Somehow we seem to survive.
So I call bullshit.
Since 9 times out of 10 you won't be selling to someone inside the state...
This is regulating the sellers, not the buyers. This is only a problem if you live in Ohio and are selling stuff on EBay.
All that graphical crap is just that: crap. It doesn't count. The core of XP is 2K.
Besides, don't trust me, read the MSDN documentation, which says windows 2000 has a major version of 5 and a minor version of 0, while XP has a major version of 5 and a minor version of 1.
ie 2K = 5.0, XP = 5.1
XP is a reskinning of 2K (or at least until the release of SP2), that is all. And the skin is a tiny part of the OS.
So maybe not SP5 for 2K, but not far from it.
Apples and oranges. A 1972 Pinto was a production run car. There have been a very limited number of shuttles.
Well, considering that Win2k could just as well have counted as NT4 SP7,
Not in the slightest. Hugely different OS.
and you could similarly think of XP as Win2k SP5
I'd agree with that wholeheartedly.
I'd agree, although it is helpful to have a base to start working from, even if you then customise that heavily.
.Net. So new stuff is written in .Net, and we are trying to migrate the onlder stuff across bit by bit. Conceivably there might be classic ASP code still in the app 5 years from now. This is life.
On a slighltly unrelated not, I believe we are seeing a slowdown in the adoption and release of new languages. Why? Because codebases are growing, in particular codebases with customisation. Codebases are larger and more complex than they have ever been, and they are only growing. The end result of this is that the pain of porting is just too large.
It doesn't matter how good $new_tool_or_language is, we have achieved lockin.
Take the app I am working on. It is around 70,000 lines of ASP for the web app part. Supported by maybe half that in a mix of VB, VBS and perl. As the sole programmer on this, I am not going to recode the lot just to port to
This is true and false.
I can learn enough to get by in a new language in a matter of days. However it months or years to learn to program well in that language. Perl is the one exception to this, in that nobody can program well in perl.
Apparently, you've forgotten that in .NET, this is a matter of a few lines of code and a databind to accomplish.
And in classic ASP it was just a few lines too. You just need to know which lines.
The interesting thing about .Net is just what the preferred means of development on that platform are.
.Net, but according to my best practices, this is the way forward.
I recently moved from developing code in ASP, to ASP.Net. I know classic ASP inside out, and have developed effective best practices for writing in that language. It is always interesting moving to a new language because you need to work all that stuff out again.
Anyway, after working with ASP.Net for about 6 months I find that I am only able to use a small subest of the language. Not because I am unable to use the full language, but because some of it is just not appropriate.
Take for example forms validation. Using this you can validate forms either client or server side. However the client side validation is not cross browser compatible, and the server side stuff doesn't work the way I would like it to. Result: I run my own custom code. I am going against recommended practices for
I am aware of that. However googling for information brought up a number of articles where people researched this anecdote. In not one single link did I find any mention of a court case where this was demoed. On the other hand I found a number of people who all attributed the source of the anecdote to the John Dvorak article I mentioned.
If this really ocurred in court I would expect to find that someone had posted the transcript online. Particularly something as explosive as this.
Frankly it looks and smells like a urban myth. It also looks as though either the poster that I was responding to has further embellished the story.
Lastly, I would suggest that you read some of the articles brought back by the link to a google search result. It would have saved you having to type your comment.
Unfortunately /. doesn't seem to have this as an option.
However I can note you down on my personal mental list as someone:
- Who either was home schooled/is home schooling their kids, hence needs to justify the decision (or at least that is what I infer from your fervent defence of the practice, please correct me if I am incorrect)
- Who cannot argue a point, but instead resorts to rhetorical techniques
- Who brings the Open Source movement into disrepute
HAND
A quick search brings back some results for this, however it does not appear to be corroborated. It certainly does not appear that the demonstration was in court, otherwise one would expect some sort of court records of this kind of thing.
The only source seems to be a John Dvorak article from 1996. John has more of a reputation for controversy than reliablility.
So it does sound more like an urban myth than reality, but it may be true.
I saw "The Aviator" recently, which is an excellent movie.
That was one of the things that impressive about the character portrayed in the movie was his determination and his willingless to risk his own life. Note I say the character potrayed in the movie because I am wary taking anything portrayed in a movie as history. In the movie, he flew his own experimental planes, including a spyplane which crashed. In that crash one lung collapsed, his heart moved, he had burns to 70% of his body, 8 ribs were shattered and he had both legs broken. It was by no means certain that he would live.
He also broke the top speed for aircraft, travelled around the world in record time.
The guy might have been mentally unstable, but he achieved things.
Or Steam. This may seem a little offtopic, but Steam is a framework for fps games. Updates to Steam are shipped out automatically. Everyone gets the updates when they log on.
You are still tying together two unrelated things.
1. Planes crash into WTC where his company has offices
2. He quits job because he doesn't like it.
AFAIK the WTC attacks were not attacks on a particular company, more attacks on America in general. They were not aimed at his company because of the way they treated their employees.
I think you mean, you won't believe until you have seen the dupe on slashdot.
That was luck.
Whether your company was a good or bad company to work for is unrelated to the fact that they worked in the WTC on 9/11.
I was asked to go back to the job I am currently in. I now own 10% of the company.
This is a small company, so YMMV, but it is possible to have a happy end to coming back.
First off, it is utterly incorrect to call only call a gun a weapon when it is fired at a living target. That is equivalent to saying that what I am using something for defines what it is. So I use my Thinkpad T41 as a frisbee, therefore it is a frisbee. Or fiance is sitting on my lap, therefore I am a chair.
The difficulty is that there are many kinds of guns, and some are more weapon-like than others. That said there are some guns that are clearly weapons aimed at killing people. For example, outside target shooting & security guards, I see no need for handguns.
On that note, suppose you do have a handgun that is just used for target shooting. If it is only used for target shooting, and you recognise that it has the potential to be used as a weapon, then it should be regulated to ensure that it can only be used for target shooting. For example, requiring that it be stored at the target range.
I counldn't agree more.
One thing that frustrates me in the move from C++ to C# is the lack header files. A well written header file is largely all the documentation you need for a class.
What is even dumber about it is that the market for ringtones is going to die. As phones become media players, the ringtone can be anything you already have as an electronic file. My phone (Nokia 6230) can already use an MP3 as a ringtone, and it is has been on the market for around a year now.
You continue to fail to address much of what I say, relying on rhetoric to prove your point. I have read your slashdot comments with some interest in the past, sometimes with approval. However, since you have demonstrated your inability to argue a point, I am placing you in my foes list. Answer my comment and I might remove you from there. Then I will do you the courtesy of answering the comment you have made here.
As you admit, you've based your conclusions on a too-small sample size.
Certainly, but I cannot see that kids will get as much social interaction with kids their own age if they are home schooled. Social interaction is key to developing normal social relations.
At least you're honest about being wrong.
You fail logic 101, but pass in rhetoric 101. I said no such thing. The fact that the sample I have is small, does not imply that I am wrong, merely that I do not have enough evidence to support my position. You have not produced any evidence to disprove my position, so my anecdotal evidence outweighs your zero evidence.
YMMV as I do not live in the US and it is possible that our school system (Aus) is somewhat better than yours.
Have I pissed you off yet? I just want to know because your sig warns that I shouldn't and I am interested to know why. You'll use strawman arguments? Hyperbole? Sarcasm?
You seem to have issues with tense. Let me rewrite your sentence for you, with the correct tense.
Since the vast majority of the SQL Server codebase was straight from Sybase...
Version 4.2 of SQL Server, which ran orignally on OS/2 was a joint Sybase/MS product. MS then made the decision that OS/2 was not the platform of the future and ported 4.2 to NT (this is in 1992). Indeed ported might not be the best way to describe it, because it involved a huge amount of re-writing of code, including the kernel. One thing led to another and in 1994 the partnership between Sybase and Microsoft ended. Sybase then ported System 10 (their version of SQL Server 4.2) to NT.
Since then there have some major releases in SQL Server's history, 6.0 7.0 and 2000.
To argue that SQL Server's codebase is from Sybase is FUD. Clearly Microsoft hasn't got a patent on that and open source trolls are free to spread their own FUD.
If you enjoy the thought of that and want to read something that contains similar concepts, try reading some Kafka. It is a lot bleaker, a lot darker. I've only read "The Castle" (which is unfinished) and "The Trial", so I can't comment on any of his other work. I'd reccommend "The Trial. Very appropriate for current US society.
I'd say The Trial is in fact more interesting than Catch 22 in this context. Catch 22 is easier to read though.