It's not so much targetted at USENET as at a single person, in much the same way that somebody making harrassing calls overseas could likely be targetted by his home jurisdiction depending on local legality.
Exactly. And if he is ordered by the court not to use the telephone network as a result of his actions, how does that affect anybody elses freedom of speech?
Actually, I wonder if the court order language was specific to newsgroups. Was he posting to news servers using NNTP or to Deja using HTTP? Would it matter? Could a lawyer have a field day? (IANAL)
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From: "Quonsar The Magnificent" To: Subject: Alien Spell Check
Sir/Madam/Elohim:
I arrived at your web site www.rael.org feeling intrigued and curious. However, within the first 3 minutes I encountered evidence that your writer is either a moron or a victim of invasive alien probes which have severely affected his intellectual capacity.
"reep", "questionning" and "functionning" left me to "reap" the harvest of "questioning" whether your language skills are "functioning".
You should address this immediately. Nothing says "dumbshit alien loony site" to a visitor faster than having your site look like it was written and proofread by a dumbshit alien loony.
Quonsar The Magnificent Planet Meepzorp
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
And if you're an extraterrestrial reading Slashdot for the first time, welcome aboard.;-P
I've been reading/. for quite some time, since waaay before it was cool. To hear those stuffy Mxsptlars, you'd think they invented/. Galactic sheep dung is what they are, the lot of them...
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Humph. I'm from an entirely different planet, have interesting and bizarre quirks, often speak in an inscrutable tongue, and for a while my homepage said "I fart in your general direction". Why aren't I famous too?
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
It seems to me that the answer to question 11 is that you can use the device to have Free Speech among your fellow countrymen for the first time in your entire life. You also get to tell the outside world about the soldiers who keep robbing you. You can also arrange for drop shipments of arms without the thugs being able to intercept it.
Or order "Chicken Soup For The Starving, Oppressed Peasant Soul" from Amazon.Com.
More likely the device would be regarded with fear and loathing as some sort of trick by the regime, and be given wide berth or smashed, in the interests of preserving one's family.
I think the answer to #11 is that technology doesn't mean shit until we understand what causes us as a species to engage in oppression and genocide...
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
I'm curious...outside of posts to slashdot, or writing in general, does anyone actually use the term "grok" in conversation? I have yet to hear one person say it and I work with some serious geeks.
Oh yeah. I snarfed Win95 when it came out, and I've been glorkonzed ever since. Who could grok the sucker?
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
i want to know how microsoft is getting away with this..
Me too! If Toshiba can bend over to the tune of 2 billion over a floppy controller bug which has never cost anybody anything, why the hell aren't those legal shysters from Texas filing class-actions against BillySoft?
Why, in the last week alone I have read stories about server outages, admin problems, etc etc that must have cost SOMEBODY a lot of bucks, and that shit goes on day after day!
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
I have been reading the various news reports and it absolutely pisses me off that they are saying "you don't even have to open it". WTF do they think is happening in the "preview pane"? Outlook OPENS the message so it can be displayed. The "preview pane" is an absolutely moronic device, and I have always had it shut off (View | Layout and uncheck Preview Pane). If I want to read something I double click and manually open it in its own window. This is sad. Why don't tech writers write plainly about what is going on? All this is, is another display of fundamental computer security ignorance on M$ part. Outlook Express automatically opens each message and displays a few lines in the preview pane as you scroll the list.
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Its a crock of shit. Check it out. It lumps all 'open sourcers' into the same bucket. It assumes that because initial posts were largely ecstatic, and some later posts were critical of the judges Linux remarks, that the opinion of the 'open source movement' changed along the way.
Typical ZD yellow journalism.
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
I was wondering if you had any plans to work with new security expert John Dvorak in the future? With your notoriety and John's media connections (not to mention his $40 firewall) it would seem to be a partnership guaranteed to strike fear into the hearts of evil h4x0r5 everywhere.
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
The kicker is that most privacy statements say something along the lines of: "We reserve the right to change the terms of this agreement" What they mean is that if they decide later to use your information, they will just say so later.
But not until after the story is on/.
:-)
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Perhaps ICQ is silently watching your web browsing? Is AIM checking up on what programs you're running? Makes you wonder.
It is not an attempted deceit, but as you may know, one of ICQ's features is a message history. My earliest version was on a machine I used for about 18 months. A friend and I use ICQ everyday all day. We hate the chat modes, we just send ICQ messages back and forth. Mostly these revolve around attempts to upstage each other in the humor department.
One day I got poking around and discovered this massive file with every word we had exchanged over the entire 18 months. It was very clear that without the context of the moments in which we said those things, an unclued reader could come to some damaging conclusions.
I'm not claiming this is something evil. I'm just saying that its easy to forget that something you use all the time may be keeping track of history - and to behave or configure accordingly.
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
It would seem to me that the most intelligent means to accomplish the goal and maintain open discussion, would be to have a moderator respond to posts which need their 'impact reduced', rather than to simply disappear the messages.
Now that I have written the above statement though, I am forced to attempt to define what messages would fall into that category? What the hell IS that category? Perhaps a moderators post could present alternate takes on the subject matter, or remind readers that they cannot accept everything they read at face value (remarkable that grown adults would need this reminding, isnt it?) and in that way "reduce the impact" of messages that are simply too impactful.
Ooooo - this keeps getting funnier the more I write - what is 'too impactful'? For whom? What specifically does an excessively impactful post impact?
I guess in the end that the only thing I can say is, I'm glad this doesn't impact me, because I tend to hang around/. not Yahoo, and everybody knows/. has more impact!
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Why not add a My Slashdot thing, where users can make their own mini-slashdot pages. They can post their own stories, and invite friends who then can post comments and stuff, just like the real slashdot, but personal. Could be like my.slashdot.org/username or something...
Heeeeell yeah, and free home pages with popup window ads (members.slashdot.org) oh and yeah, free web-based email accounts (mail.dotorgnow.org, oh and yeah, don't forget to preconfigure those webmail accounts for existing members.)oh and yeah, a ZDNN Slashbox, man, and oh yeah, TV listings! man, this site is a portal just waiting to happen!
====== "Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Slashdot Mirror
Hypertext Webster Gateway Error
No match found for ergonometric
What a chump. And he wants to be President? Yeah, right...
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
MS is only fighting for its shareholders.
"Ach, ve ver unly following orders."
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Tim's whole point was this:
Finally! I've been reading these last few threads wondering how all these people could have failed to understand that!!!
Sheesh!
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Exactly. And if he is ordered by the court not to use the telephone network as a result of his actions, how does that affect anybody elses freedom of speech?
Actually, I wonder if the court order language was specific to newsgroups. Was he posting to news servers using NNTP or to Deja using HTTP? Would it matter? Could a lawyer have a field day? (IANAL)
======
"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
From: "Quonsar The Magnificent"
To:
Subject: Alien Spell Check
Sir/Madam/Elohim:
I arrived at your web site www.rael.org feeling intrigued and curious. However, within the first 3 minutes I encountered evidence that your writer is either a moron or a victim of invasive alien probes which have severely affected his intellectual capacity.
"reep", "questionning" and "functionning" left me to "reap" the harvest of "questioning" whether your language skills are "functioning".
You should address this immediately. Nothing says "dumbshit alien loony site" to a visitor faster than having your site look like it was written and proofread by a dumbshit alien loony.
Quonsar The Magnificent
Planet Meepzorp
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
That alien looks like it could have sucked the chrome off an escape pod hitch...
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
I've been reading /. for quite some time, since waaay before it was cool. To hear those stuffy Mxsptlars, you'd think they invented /. Galactic sheep dung is what they are, the lot of them...
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Oh that is such bullshit. Where do you get the statistic for this "military is 10 years ahead of public" nonsense?
Yeah, if they are so damn far ahead of the general public, what's up with this big move to NT powered military hardware? Somebody better clue 'em in!
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
While much of the recent fusion work seems to have centered around tokamak reacters...
if'n nukyaleer reacters is outlawed, only outlaws is gonna have nukyaleer reacters.
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Humph. I'm from an entirely different planet, have interesting and bizarre quirks, often speak in an inscrutable tongue, and for a while my homepage said "I fart in your general direction". Why aren't I famous too?
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
It seems to me that the answer to question 11 is that you can use the device to have Free Speech among your fellow countrymen for the first time in your entire life. You also get to tell the outside world about the soldiers who keep robbing you. You can also arrange for drop shipments of arms without the thugs being able to intercept it.
Or order "Chicken Soup For The Starving, Oppressed Peasant Soul" from Amazon.Com.
More likely the device would be regarded with fear and loathing as some sort of trick by the regime, and be given wide berth or smashed, in the interests of preserving one's family.
I think the answer to #11 is that technology doesn't mean shit until we understand what causes us as a species to engage in oppression and genocide...
======
"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
I'm curious...outside of posts to slashdot, or writing in general, does anyone actually use the term "grok" in conversation? I have yet to hear one person say it and I work with some serious geeks.
Oh yeah. I snarfed Win95 when it came out, and I've been glorkonzed ever since. Who could grok the sucker?
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Uh, so, if I 'help' you Jon, uh, what's my cut?
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
i want to know how microsoft is getting away with this..
Me too! If Toshiba can bend over to the tune of 2 billion over a floppy controller bug which has never cost anybody anything, why the hell aren't those legal shysters from Texas filing class-actions against BillySoft?
Why, in the last week alone I have read stories about server outages, admin problems, etc etc that must have cost SOMEBODY a lot of bucks, and that shit goes on day after day!
======
"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
I have been reading the various news reports and it absolutely pisses me off that they are saying "you don't even have to open it". WTF do they think is happening in the "preview pane"? Outlook OPENS the message so it can be displayed. The "preview pane" is an absolutely moronic device, and I have always had it shut off (View | Layout and uncheck Preview Pane). If I want to read something I double click and manually open it in its own window. This is sad. Why don't tech writers write plainly about what is going on? All this is, is another display of fundamental computer security ignorance on M$ part. Outlook Express automatically opens each message and displays a few lines in the preview pane as you scroll the list.
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
ZDNN also "created" a piece which amounted to nothing more than selected
Its a crock of shit. Check it out. It lumps all 'open sourcers' into the same bucket. It assumes that because initial posts were largely ecstatic, and some later posts were critical of the judges Linux remarks, that the opinion of the 'open source movement' changed along the way.
Typical ZD yellow journalism.
======
"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
I was wondering if you had any plans to work with new security expert John Dvorak in the future? With your notoriety and John's media connections (not to mention his $40 firewall) it would seem to be a partnership guaranteed to strike fear into the hearts of evil h4x0r5 everywhere.
======
"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
The kicker is that most privacy statements say something along the lines of:
"We reserve the right to change the terms of this agreement"
What they mean is that if they decide later to use your information, they will just say so later.
But not until after the story is on /.
======
"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Perhaps ICQ is silently watching your web browsing? Is AIM checking up on what programs you're running? Makes you wonder.
It is not an attempted deceit, but as you may know, one of ICQ's features is a message history. My earliest version was on a machine I used for about 18 months. A friend and I use ICQ everyday all day. We hate the chat modes, we just send ICQ messages back and forth. Mostly these revolve around attempts to upstage each other in the humor department.
One day I got poking around and discovered this massive file with every word we had exchanged over the entire 18 months. It was very clear that without the context of the moments in which we said those things, an unclued reader could come to some damaging conclusions.
I'm not claiming this is something evil. I'm just saying that its easy to forget that something you use all the time may be keeping track of history - and to behave or configure accordingly.
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
I'm gonna suggest 'Peter, the Privacy Panda.' Maybe he can hang out with Smokey the Bear and McGruff.
Definitely a job for McMoo - The Anti-Drug Cow.
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Crap. And I so look forward to chatting with my friends while taking my relaxing evening milk bath.
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
It would seem to me that the most intelligent means to accomplish the goal and maintain open discussion, would be to have a moderator respond to posts which need their 'impact reduced', rather than to simply disappear the messages.
Now that I have written the above statement though, I am forced to attempt to define what messages would fall into that category? What the hell IS that category? Perhaps a moderators post could present alternate takes on the subject matter, or remind readers that they cannot accept everything they read at face value (remarkable that grown adults would need this reminding, isnt it?) and in that way "reduce the impact" of messages that are simply too impactful.
Ooooo - this keeps getting funnier the more I write - what is 'too impactful'? For whom? What specifically does an excessively impactful post impact?
I guess in the end that the only thing I can say is, I'm glad this doesn't impact me, because I tend to hang around /. not Yahoo, and everybody knows /. has more impact!
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Why not add a My Slashdot thing, where users can make their own mini-slashdot pages. They can post their own stories, and invite friends who then can post comments and stuff, just like the real slashdot, but personal. Could be like my.slashdot.org/username or something...
Heeeeell yeah, and free home pages with popup window ads (members.slashdot.org) oh and yeah, free web-based email accounts (mail.dotorgnow.org, oh and yeah, don't forget to preconfigure those webmail accounts for existing members.)oh and yeah, a ZDNN Slashbox, man, and oh yeah, TV listings! man, this site is a portal just waiting to happen!
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
Alright, about ten minutes ago there were about two dozen comments-- where the hell did they all go??
Can you say "alien abduction"?
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16
and here I am on my way out the door to meet the ambassador from Arbarkulous Maalb for lunch.
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"Rex unto my cleeb, and thou shalt have everlasting blort." - Zorp 3:16