I think that this is called "directed shares" and E*Trade has a mailbox and a phone number set up specifically for this ("directed shares" in general, not Red Hat specifically.)
Now, I don't know if directed shares are a different pool set aside for "friends and family" or if it just means "hey, we targeted you with an email and we hope you buy some." In other words, I don't know if people who got this offer have any better chance of participating in the IPO.
I seriously doubt that this is an SEC violation - surely E*Trade and Red Hat's lawyers would have stopped it otherwise.
YMMV, IANAI (I am not an investor)... Well, not much of one anyway.:)
I mean, what was wrong with fvwm? That bastard Rasterman, why couldn't he just submit some patches, instead of going out and making his own window manager. What's he trying to do, take over the whole window manager world? It's people like him that are going to ruin Linux.
Same goes for Python. And while we're at it, perl... what was wrong with a simple shell script?
/sarcasm off
Sorry, but I just don't buy your arguments. They're making a new "portal" site - great. It'll be another place for new linux folks to go and get information. I don't think that constitutes "going against the community" in any way.
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All the news of expansion is certainly going to fuel more anger and fear of Red Hat taking over the world. People have already pointed out the number one argument against this: Red Hat is pouring tons of money into code development, and releasing it ALL under the GPL. You may also be interested in some things Bob Young said in a recent interview with Linux Journal (I hope this qualifies as "fair use...")
"We don't do any exclusive contracts. For example, the guys at Metroworks - on their box, they say it was built for Red Hat Linux. That wasn't our idea - that was their idea for marketing purposes."
"...our goal at Red Hat has always been to expand the number of Linux users, not to dominate the Linux space."
"We have no interest (in squashing our competition). Slackware and Caldera and Debian are very much our allies in this effort to make Open Source the definition, to make Open Source a required feature of any operating system the user might consider."
"We understand our competition isn't with Caldera or SuSE - out competition is with Microsoft." (He was speaking about the new higher price on RH6.0, basically saying that it pays not for the software, but for a certain level of support that their users expect from them.)
"... we are not trying to compete in the Linux space, we are trying to compete with the very big proprietary OS vendors..."
Now, of course, the nature of this competition could change if Open Source becomes the standard - the competition would probably move to the other Linux vendors. But for now, according to Mr. Young (whom you can believe or disbelieve as you see fit), Red Hat's plan is to do the "right thing" for Linux.
Why saddened? Do you think that it will affect the quality of his work in some way? Or make him less happy? Personally, it seems that getting paid to do what he's been doing for free all along would make him a happy man - which can only lead to better code.:)
Also, I have no idea why your post was moderated down. I don't think that voicing dislike (err.. strong dislike) for Red Hat qualifies for flamebait. Ah well.
I figure that your $80 goes for the 30 days phone support and 90 days of email support that comes with the package. Which, if you ask me, is a very good thing because most Linux newbies I goad into trying it are confused as hell right from the start.:) Traditional support can only broaden the user base. That's my $0.02
This is *not* intended as a flame, so please don't flame me back... I'm wondering why the formal releases of E are so few and far between? I think the kernel revision frequency is about 4x that of E.:) Is there something fundamentally different about the way E is developed? Is Raster a perfectionist?
I noticed that Mandrake is reading comments, so I figured I'd throw out this question. Oh wait.. maybe I just answered my question. Get back to work, man!:)
p.s. I have no idea why this defaults to a score of 2.
Interesting... out of all the corporate funding & hacker sponsorship we've seen lately, how much is directed application development? I love E, but I'd also like to see VA and RedHat throw some money at something like AbiWord.
The problem is not so much with multiple circuits, but with different phases. Three wires come into your house, let's call them A B and C. All of your 120V circuits are either across A and B, or B and C. If you put your transceiver on an AB circuit, and the lamp module on a BC circuit, it may not work. There are ways around this, and sometimes it works just fine anyway. Look on the support page on x10.com - hard to find, but they explain it pretty well.
Well, for one, the modules I received don't have the CE Mark, so they couldn't be sold in the EU.... even if they'd work with the power distribution system over there.
A couple people were complaining that this only served the US/Canada market... this is probably because there are different power standards in various parts of the world.
However, I found a page (in the netherlands) which explains some of this, and gives tips for modifying the modules to work on 220V. All disclaimers apply, and the site is here.
Yes, it is a horrible website, and it is damn near impossible to find what you're looking for. And you gotta love the porn-star babes on the banner ads, eh?:) But... eventually... the information is there.
Well, one thing that may be happening is that you have the transceiver and the lamp module on a different pair of phases in your house. Try putting the lamp module in an outlet which is on the same circuit as the transceiver, and see if that works. If so, then the problem is that you're not getting coupling across the phases. The lamp module should still work on 1/2 your circuits.:) You can fix this with an inexpensive capacitor, see the x10 website for how to do this.
And for the person with the blinking fluorescent lights, the web site specifically says that these things dont' work with fluorescent, because they need the current path across the filament in an incandescent bulb.
Granted, none of this stuff was in the instructions that came with the modules... but Linux folk are supposed to be good at ferreting information from the net!:)
When I first saw this on/., I thought "hey, that's cool!" and ordered one. It took a while to get here (about two weeks) but it finally did, and it performed as advertised. I even decided to buy some more stuff from them (which has NOT arrived yet).
I *did* get spammed, but I went to their "remove" address, and was promptly removed (look at the bottom of the email.)
But then I saw the story on slashdot *again* Then I saw it on freshmeat.... which was posted on slashdot... again... I mean, don't you guys think that's enough? It's getting to be pretty blatant advertising. What's the point of that? Not trying to be a jerk, but at this point it's simply not news - it's just an ad.
Whatever this PetrOS thing is, I've got to hand it to Trumpet Software - they *really* made a difference 6 or 7 years ago with their Trumpet Winsock stack. Way before Microsoft acknowledged the Net's existence, Trumpet was there to help us poor non-Unix folks get on the web. One of the few shareware programs I actually paid for.:-) I wondered what they were doing these days... I'm not sure there's much of a market for a TCP/IP stack under Windows anymore.
Hell, just boycott web links. No links to bands. No links to band sites. No links to CDnow. No links to anything that has anything to do with the music industry. (Ok, true indies can stay) I mean, between MP3, the lyrics database, and this, I say screw 'em.
Give 'em what they want: "Hello, music industry - Don't like the web? Feel threatened? Ok, fine. No web for you."
Hey, my web site says that I invented the damn transistor, and *I* say that their claims are false. You gotta believe me... I mean, I invented the TRANSISTOR! And if that's not enough for you, I invented solder! Heck, I even invented electrons!:)
I'm amazed that people are giving this ANY credibility... I guess I should collect all yer email addresses for the IPO of my anti-gravity-engine company....
Damn, there are some wacked out people in the world. I like the rant about kasparov.com, in which they say that Jack Shulman correctly predicted Kasparov's defeat by Big Blue... (Jack Shulman is also the genius who invented the aforementioned TCAP device...) And check this from their web page! (just in case anyone thought all this might be for real...)
The e4 staff recently learned that IBM DEEP BLUE may soon have a serious computational competitor: a newly designed supercomputer, "Debbi-1", is reportedly being readied by American Computer Company. Debbi-1 is said to be based on AMERICAN COMPUTER's "XB-70 Valkyrie" supercomputer, a design which uses the latest INTEL technology, reputed to be similar in nature to the largest supercomputer on earth -- which is presently located at Sandia National Laboratories.
with the assistance of "Tata Industrial Semiconductors" (name changed for security purposes), a Taiwan based (location changed for security purposes) silicon foundry.
"new Electron Trap design..." "We may just NOT sell it to the top 10 PC Companies who monopolize our industry."
and my favorite:
"We have no idea where the drawings from which we derived our TCAP came from."
Umm.. aliens, maybe? And put it in a PII shell? Come on.... The whole thing just sounds ludicrous.:-)
Hm, if you look, there are two posts by this AC which are EXACTLY the same. There is an interesting thread on the first one. This one is um... redundant.
Hm, well, I wouldn't expect a phone to have an ethernet jack, but IBM does make a 900Mhz cordless phone with a standard phone jack built in, which means that you can do wireless modeming...
Well, at least they used to. The web page is blank now.:/
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I think that this is called "directed shares" and E*Trade has a mailbox and a phone number set up specifically for this ("directed shares" in general, not Red Hat specifically.)
:)
Now, I don't know if directed shares are a different pool set aside for "friends and family" or if it just means "hey, we targeted you with an email and we hope you buy some." In other words, I don't know if people who got this offer have any better chance of participating in the IPO.
I seriously doubt that this is an SEC violation - surely E*Trade and Red Hat's lawyers would have stopped it otherwise.
YMMV, IANAI (I am not an investor)... Well, not much of one anyway.
/sarcsam on
I mean, what was wrong with fvwm? That bastard Rasterman, why couldn't he just submit some patches, instead of going out and making his own window manager. What's he trying to do, take over the whole window manager world? It's people like him that are going to ruin Linux.
Same goes for Python. And while we're at it, perl... what was wrong with a simple shell script?
/sarcasm off
Sorry, but I just don't buy your arguments. They're making a new "portal" site - great. It'll be another place for new linux folks to go and get information. I don't think that constitutes "going against the community" in any way.
All the news of expansion is certainly going to fuel more anger and fear of Red Hat taking over the world. People have already pointed out the number one argument against this: Red Hat is pouring tons of money into code development, and releasing it ALL under the GPL. You may also be interested in some things Bob Young said in a recent interview with Linux Journal (I hope this qualifies as "fair use...")
"We don't do any exclusive contracts. For example, the guys at Metroworks - on their box, they say it was built for Red Hat Linux. That wasn't our idea - that was their idea for marketing purposes."
"...our goal at Red Hat has always been to expand the number of Linux users, not to dominate the Linux space."
"We have no interest (in squashing our competition). Slackware and Caldera and Debian are very much our allies in this effort to make Open Source the definition, to make Open Source a required feature of any operating system the user might consider."
"We understand our competition isn't with Caldera or SuSE - out competition is with Microsoft." (He was speaking about the new higher price on RH6.0, basically saying that it pays not for the software, but for a certain level of support that their users expect from them.)
"... we are not trying to compete in the Linux space, we are trying to compete with the very big proprietary OS vendors..."
Now, of course, the nature of this competition could change if Open Source becomes the standard - the competition would probably move to the other Linux vendors. But for now, according to Mr. Young (whom you can believe or disbelieve as you see fit), Red Hat's plan is to do the "right thing" for Linux.
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Why saddened? Do you think that it will affect the quality of his work in some way? Or make him less happy? Personally, it seems that getting paid to do what he's been doing for free all along would make him a happy man - which can only lead to better code. :)
Also, I have no idea why your post was moderated down. I don't think that voicing dislike (err.. strong dislike) for Red Hat qualifies for flamebait. Ah well.
And how much support did you get with it?
:) Traditional support can only broaden the user base. That's my $0.02
I figure that your $80 goes for the 30 days phone support and 90 days of email support that comes with the package. Which, if you ask me, is a very good thing because most Linux newbies I goad into trying it are confused as hell right from the start.
This is *not* intended as a flame, so please don't flame me back... I'm wondering why the formal releases of E are so few and far between? I think the kernel revision frequency is about 4x that of E. :) Is there something fundamentally different about the way E is developed? Is Raster a perfectionist?
:)
I noticed that Mandrake is reading comments, so I figured I'd throw out this question. Oh wait.. maybe I just answered my question. Get back to work, man!
p.s. I have no idea why this defaults to a score of 2.
Interesting... out of all the corporate funding & hacker sponsorship we've seen lately, how much is directed application development? I love E, but I'd also like to see VA and RedHat throw some money at something like AbiWord.
The problem is not so much with multiple circuits, but with different phases. Three wires come into your house, let's call them A B and C. All of your 120V circuits are either across A and B, or B and C. If you put your transceiver on an AB circuit, and the lamp module on a BC circuit, it may not work. There are ways around this, and sometimes it works just fine anyway. Look on the support page on x10.com - hard to find, but they explain it pretty well.
Well, for one, the modules I received don't have the CE Mark, so they couldn't be sold in the EU.... even if they'd work with the power distribution system over there.
However, I found a page (in the netherlands) which explains some of this, and gives tips for modifying the modules to work on 220V. All disclaimers apply, and the site is here.
Yes, it is a horrible website, and it is damn near impossible to find what you're looking for. And you gotta love the porn-star babes on the banner ads, eh? :) But... eventually... the information is there.
Well, one thing that may be happening is that you have the transceiver and the lamp module on a different pair of phases in your house. Try putting the lamp module in an outlet which is on the same circuit as the transceiver, and see if that works. If so, then the problem is that you're not getting coupling across the phases. The lamp module should still work on 1/2 your circuits. :) You can fix this with an inexpensive capacitor, see the x10 website for how to do this.
:)
And for the person with the blinking fluorescent lights, the web site specifically says that these things dont' work with fluorescent, because they need the current path across the filament in an incandescent bulb.
Granted, none of this stuff was in the instructions that came with the modules... but Linux folk are supposed to be good at ferreting information from the net!
When I first saw this on /., I thought "hey, that's cool!" and ordered one. It took a while to get here (about two weeks) but it finally did, and it performed as advertised. I even decided to buy some more stuff from them (which has NOT arrived yet).
I *did* get spammed, but I went to their "remove" address, and was promptly removed (look at the bottom of the email.)
But then I saw the story on slashdot *again* Then I saw it on freshmeat.... which was posted on slashdot... again... I mean, don't you guys think that's enough? It's getting to be pretty blatant advertising. What's the point of that? Not trying to be a jerk, but at this point it's simply not news - it's just an ad.
Might I refer you to freshmeat.net?
Whatever this PetrOS thing is, I've got to hand it to Trumpet Software - they *really* made a difference 6 or 7 years ago with their Trumpet Winsock stack. Way before Microsoft acknowledged the Net's existence, Trumpet was there to help us poor non-Unix folks get on the web. One of the few shareware programs I actually paid for. :-) I wondered what they were doing these days... I'm not sure there's much of a market for a TCP/IP stack under Windows anymore.
Hell, just boycott web links. No links to bands. No links to band sites. No links to CDnow. No links to anything that has anything to do with the music industry. (Ok, true indies can stay) I mean, between MP3, the lyrics database, and this, I say screw 'em.
Give 'em what they want:
"Hello, music industry - Don't like the web? Feel threatened? Ok, fine. No web for you."
Sheesh.
Hey, my web site says that I invented the damn transistor, and *I* say that their claims are false. You gotta believe me... I mean, I invented the TRANSISTOR! And if that's not enough for you, I invented solder! Heck, I even invented electrons! :)
I'm amazed that people are giving this ANY credibility... I guess I should collect all yer email addresses for the IPO of my anti-gravity-engine company....
Heh, did some more digging, and they *do* claim that the technology came from aliens! :-)
Here's a guy who has some info on their claims, mostly debunking them. http://www.uni-weimar.de/~kuehnel/TrueorNot.htm
with the assistance of "Tata Industrial Semiconductors" (name changed for security purposes), a Taiwan based (location changed for security purposes) silicon foundry.
"new Electron Trap design..."
"We may just NOT sell it to the top 10 PC Companies who monopolize our industry."
and my favorite:
"We have no idea where the drawings from which we derived our TCAP came from."
Umm.. aliens, maybe? And put it in a PII shell? Come on.... The whole thing just sounds ludicrous. :-)
Hm, if you look, there are two posts by this AC which are EXACTLY the same. There is an interesting thread on the first one. This one is um... redundant.
Hm, well, I wouldn't expect a phone to have an ethernet jack, but IBM does make a 900Mhz cordless phone with a standard phone jack built in, which means that you can do wireless modeming...
:/
Well, at least they used to. The web page is blank now.
Perl is responsible for SPAM? Wow, the FBI better go after Kernighan and Ritchie. I'm guessing that they're responsible for a lot of virii... :)