That is probably the least irrational post you've made so far. The problem I had with you from the beginning was that you leap so fast to name-calling and cursing, so I returned likewise. Your basic problem is that anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot in your eyes. You can't see someone else's view. This is compounded by your belief that you are an expert in everything. Yes, we went horribly off-topic, but your single-mindedness is not something I want to have filling my inbox. Have a nice day.
Troll, as you well know, you are the childish game player. I started by saying that Obama had not committed an impeachable offense - and he has not. I point to the reason and you respond with a well-thought out "fuck you," while accusing me of polluting the discourse. Look in the mirror, asshole!
I've looked over your posting history and you are apparently a fossil-fuel apologist who denies global warming who only pulls Linus' shit-stained cock out of his mouth long enough to shout "FUCK YOU" at everyone who disagrees with you, especially concerning your beloved bitcoins.
You think you're an expert on everything, saying you've been programming since 1988, yet are only 32. Newsflash: your playing with logo when you were 7 years old is not something to put on your resume, sonny boy.
Shave your neckbeard and move out of your mother's basement, dumbfuck with strong, but uninformed, opinions.
No, you FUCK OFF. I did not fail your childish game. AUMF specifically authorizes the president to use "whatever force is necessary" to fight terrorism. It was a stupid law, but it has not been challenged successfully, so it remains law. I'm guessing that YANAL, so obviously the Justice Dept's ruling overrides your petty internet degree. So, I mentioned that the previous president also used this law, that WAS NOT a justification. Just pointing out that you are a partisan hypocrite.
You're saying a president authorizing the killing of American citizens without due process isn't deserving of impeachment. Please defend that position, and be sure to consider how you'd feel if you or a family member were the target of such a killing, along with consideration of the consequences for the foundations of what we consider the core of our nation's principles of justice. Let's see if you can just address the issue straight, without any attempt at bringing up other politicians to deflect attention from it. I doubt you'll be able to.
I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's legal. Look "here."
You just don't like the other guy using this same power you gave the previous one.
Well, when the intrinsic value of something is lower than its cost to extract or produce it has for any practical effect no value and money paper net value is negative.
Much like gold to you or me. If you wanted to buy some gold for intrinsic purposes (such as making a non-corrodable connector), you'd have to buy it at street cost, which is much more due to everyone thinking shiny metals are great.
You could, but nobody would because it is cheaper to use non money paper even if the money didn't have its added value given by law. But then again most money is bits in bank accounts, paper money isn't going to last long.
I didn't say it was a useful idea, only that it could be done. Much like gold has overinflated value compared to intrinsic value, so does paper. Paper does have some intrinsic value.
Your long list of examples omit something important: data. Those examples simply don't have enough impact to trigger laws. You might not like them, but laws like this aren't written to accommodate your dislikes, laws like this are based on data. If putting on make-up was a significant source of accidents, above DWI or cell-phone usage, it would be on the list. It isn't arbitrary that alcohol and cell phone usage are restricted, they cause the most accidents.
Throwing away some mod points here to make a point. The only reason there is more data on DWI/DUI is because it's far easier data to collect. No one actually collects data on people who put their makeup on while driving, or was yelling at their kids; these examples of distracted or impaired driving are equally valid and probably as common if not more, but simply do not lend themselves to simple testing of any kind; what kind of metric would you use? Ergo, little or no data.
This is the same reason why speeding is the most common moving violation and has tons of data behind it: it's very simple for a cop to park behind a billboard to measure and record your speed with a radar gun, but much more unlikely for them to catch someone on the road who is tailgating, playing checkers, or just driving dangerously in general, as those things have no real metric.
I'd like to help with your quest for data. I once got a blowjob while driving (on OP's list) and did not crash.
Gold has some innate value in the sense that it can be used directly to build stuff. It is just a much lesser value than its current market value at the moment. Fiat currencies have absolute no innate value.
Wrong. You can use any paper currency as insulation, wallpaper, clothing, shims, sweat rags, among numerous other things.
And if Biden were impeached next, Nancy Pelosi would become president.
Oh, the *delicious* irony... ("Wait, WTF?!? We just made Nancy PELOSI the President by impeaching Obama and Biden? No! No! Fox News and Rush made it sound like if we could impeach them, Rand Paul and Sarah Palin would float down from the heavens on golden wings to save us from... er... bad things...")
Wow, how wrong can you be? First, Biden would bring in a new VP (that's what Ford did, remember?) Second, Pelosi is no longer speaker of the House.
As true as that maybe but i feel that it has to due with the fact he is black. Think about it how would it look if the 1st black president (even if elected twice) was impeached? The anti-racist crowd would eat it up quicker then a fat kid with an all you can eat pass at a candy store.
Oh gimme a break! He hasn't been impeached because he hasn't done anything to deserve impeachment, the constant streams of lies from right-wing nutjobs notwithstanding. Not liking a guy is not a reason to impeach.
The budgeting I do as well as I can, but there are certain costs that are not in my control, and that does hamper me a little. One of the other posters very nearly hit my current family income on the head --sixty, which is just barely poverty level in our area--but before that, counting backwards year by year, it was probably pretty close to 60,60, 53,47, 43, 37, 35, 33, 30, 30, 12, 45, 30,25,22, and thn splitting my work and my wife's work, (17/43, 11/41, 8/40). Before that we weren't married. I made 4,12, 10. All numbers in thousands. We had all our children late (heavily related to the poverty.)
I don't know where you're living, but in 1985, I was making $30K fresh out of engineering school and it has only been up from there - now pushing $200K. Yes, I've lived in some expensive places, but college paid off in a MAJOR way for me. I knew plenty of the so-called "non-degreed engineers" and believe me they were paid way less and looked down on as merely lab rats. The problem is, now you need the college degree just to get in the door, so your advice will probably fail you kids.
I have an engineering degree (BS, AOE) from an in-state university. At this point, 20 years down the road, having lived frugally the whole time, I own a mobile home that is older than I am, on a rented lot, no retirement 401k, medical care plan is over 1/3 of my income, and no significant savings or money to send my 14 year old to college in 4 years. No land, either.
The companies that have used my skills have all profited heavily from them, but I have not. Nor is my anecdotal evidence far from the truth for most other college educated americans, recently.
Since the sole beneficiary of a college degree is the employers, I categorically refuse to send my kid to college, and have advised him not to waste his time on it, either.
Nor have colleges satisfied their charters, that I should support them.
Then you must suck at your job, negotiating pay, and/or budgeting. After 20 years with a BSEE, I have two houses, 220 acres of land, nearly $1M in retirement accounts, family medical plan that is $240/month, one kid through college, another in it, and a third on the way there. No, I did not get a dime from my poor-as-shit parents.
I agree that college is not for everyone - someone has to flip burgers, be a Walmart greeter, mow lawns, and clean houses.
As opposed to the president, who quit halfway through a Senate term, or a pair of Senators (Clinton and Kerry) who quit halfway through to be Secretary of State? Maybe a San Francisco mayor that quit to be lt. governor? Politicians moving on to larger jobs is a universal, not a new, Republican, or Democrat phenomenon.
About the only thing no one quits is the House - because the two year terms line up with whatever other election you want to pursue. And even then, i think there are a couple people who've bailed to move up. Really doubt they were all members of the same party that you don't like.
Not the same thing, dumbass, and here's why:
Obama didn't quit the Senate - he was promoted to President.
Clinton didn't quit as Secretary of State - she stayed for the entire administration (Obama's first term).
Kerry didn't quit the Senate - he was promoted to Secretary of State
Palin failed to get the job as VP, went back to being governor, then quit halfway through her term. She didn't quit until July 2009. She didn't get a promotion, unless you think a reality show is a promotion.
You mean Palin the sweatheart of Busting the Oil Companies Balls in Alaska and the Crusader against the "Good Olde Politcal Boys" Club in Alaska who had many positive Articles written about her BEFORE August 2008, but then who after the 2008 RNC convention was worse than Ming the Merciless accroding to the same people who wrote the glowing articles about her not one month ago....
The same Palin that had quotes miss-attrributed to her that were spoken by a half rate SNL actress...
You failed to see the point. There are an infinite number of "possibilities" of how we got here. We can't teach them all. I can invent hundreds every day. Maybe a space cat vomited us all out. Maybe a space zebra shitted us out. Maybe we evolved from inter-dimensional rock creatures. Maybe some white guy in the sky invented us. It's all fiction. If you're going to teach fiction, say it's fiction.
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That is probably the least irrational post you've made so far. The problem I had with you from the beginning was that you leap so fast to name-calling and cursing, so I returned likewise. Your basic problem is that anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot in your eyes. You can't see someone else's view. This is compounded by your belief that you are an expert in everything. Yes, we went horribly off-topic, but your single-mindedness is not something I want to have filling my inbox. Have a nice day.
Troll, as you well know, you are the childish game player. I started by saying that Obama had not committed an impeachable offense - and he has not. I point to the reason and you respond with a well-thought out "fuck you," while accusing me of polluting the discourse. Look in the mirror, asshole!
I've looked over your posting history and you are apparently a fossil-fuel apologist who denies global warming who only pulls Linus' shit-stained cock out of his mouth long enough to shout "FUCK YOU" at everyone who disagrees with you, especially concerning your beloved bitcoins.
You think you're an expert on everything, saying you've been programming since 1988, yet are only 32. Newsflash: your playing with logo when you were 7 years old is not something to put on your resume, sonny boy.
Shave your neckbeard and move out of your mother's basement, dumbfuck with strong, but uninformed, opinions.
No, you FUCK OFF. I did not fail your childish game. AUMF specifically authorizes the president to use "whatever force is necessary" to fight terrorism. It was a stupid law, but it has not been challenged successfully, so it remains law. I'm guessing that YANAL, so obviously the Justice Dept's ruling overrides your petty internet degree. So, I mentioned that the previous president also used this law, that WAS NOT a justification. Just pointing out that you are a partisan hypocrite.
You're saying a president authorizing the killing of American citizens without due process isn't deserving of impeachment. Please defend that position, and be sure to consider how you'd feel if you or a family member were the target of such a killing, along with consideration of the consequences for the foundations of what we consider the core of our nation's principles of justice. Let's see if you can just address the issue straight, without any attempt at bringing up other politicians to deflect attention from it. I doubt you'll be able to.
I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's legal. Look "here."
You just don't like the other guy using this same power you gave the previous one.
Well, when the intrinsic value of something is lower than its cost to extract or produce it has for any practical effect no value and money paper net value is negative.
Much like gold to you or me. If you wanted to buy some gold for intrinsic purposes (such as making a non-corrodable connector), you'd have to buy it at street cost, which is much more due to everyone thinking shiny metals are great.
You could, but nobody would because it is cheaper to use non money paper even if the money didn't have its added value given by law. But then again most money is bits in bank accounts, paper money isn't going to last long.
I didn't say it was a useful idea, only that it could be done. Much like gold has overinflated value compared to intrinsic value, so does paper. Paper does have some intrinsic value.
If you're BAC was 1.5 or 1.3 you'd be dead.
And preserved.
Your long list of examples omit something important: data. Those examples simply don't have enough impact to trigger laws. You might not like them, but laws like this aren't written to accommodate your dislikes, laws like this are based on data. If putting on make-up was a significant source of accidents, above DWI or cell-phone usage, it would be on the list. It isn't arbitrary that alcohol and cell phone usage are restricted, they cause the most accidents.
Throwing away some mod points here to make a point. The only reason there is more data on DWI/DUI is because it's far easier data to collect. No one actually collects data on people who put their makeup on while driving, or was yelling at their kids; these examples of distracted or impaired driving are equally valid and probably as common if not more, but simply do not lend themselves to simple testing of any kind; what kind of metric would you use? Ergo, little or no data. This is the same reason why speeding is the most common moving violation and has tons of data behind it: it's very simple for a cop to park behind a billboard to measure and record your speed with a radar gun, but much more unlikely for them to catch someone on the road who is tailgating, playing checkers, or just driving dangerously in general, as those things have no real metric.
I'd like to help with your quest for data. I once got a blowjob while driving (on OP's list) and did not crash.
There's no such thing as innate value. Value is context-dependent. All money is funny money. It's just a question of what brand of humor you prefer.
The US Dollar is like Jay Leno. Dull and unimaginative, but shows up for work on time every night.
Bitcoin is like Richard Pryor. Offensive, unstable, unpredictable, implicated in tax-evasion, and prone to setting itself on fire.
So where does the "funny" bit come in for Bitcoin? Only I remember Richard Pryor actually making me laugh.
Cheers,
The "funny" is reading all the bitcoin nutjobs go crazy trying to justify it as legitimate currency and putting down central banks.
Gold has some innate value in the sense that it can be used directly to build stuff. It is just a much lesser value than its current market value at the moment. Fiat currencies have absolute no innate value.
Wrong. You can use any paper currency as insulation, wallpaper, clothing, shims, sweat rags, among numerous other things.
And if Biden were impeached next, Nancy Pelosi would become president.
Oh, the *delicious* irony... ("Wait, WTF?!? We just made Nancy PELOSI the President by impeaching Obama and Biden? No! No! Fox News and Rush made it sound like if we could impeach them, Rand Paul and Sarah Palin would float down from the heavens on golden wings to save us from... er... bad things...")
Wow, how wrong can you be? First, Biden would bring in a new VP (that's what Ford did, remember?) Second, Pelosi is no longer speaker of the House.
As true as that maybe but i feel that it has to due with the fact he is black. Think about it how would it look if the 1st black president (even if elected twice) was impeached? The anti-racist crowd would eat it up quicker then a fat kid with an all you can eat pass at a candy store.
Oh gimme a break! He hasn't been impeached because he hasn't done anything to deserve impeachment, the constant streams of lies from right-wing nutjobs notwithstanding. Not liking a guy is not a reason to impeach.
The budgeting I do as well as I can, but there are certain costs that are not in my control, and that does hamper me a little. One of the other posters very nearly hit my current family income on the head --sixty, which is just barely poverty level in our area--but before that, counting backwards year by year, it was probably pretty close to 60,60, 53,47, 43, 37, 35, 33, 30, 30, 12, 45, 30,25,22, and thn splitting my work and my wife's work, (17/43, 11/41, 8/40). Before that we weren't married. I made 4,12, 10. All numbers in thousands. We had all our children late (heavily related to the poverty.)
I don't know where you're living, but in 1985, I was making $30K fresh out of engineering school and it has only been up from there - now pushing $200K. Yes, I've lived in some expensive places, but college paid off in a MAJOR way for me. I knew plenty of the so-called "non-degreed engineers" and believe me they were paid way less and looked down on as merely lab rats. The problem is, now you need the college degree just to get in the door, so your advice will probably fail you kids.
No, it's supposed to make you say, "Thank goodness, now I don't have to buy a Blackberry, but I can still chat with the people stuck with them."
Your logic dictates that there is no need to have laws of any kind, because criminals don't follow them.
I have an engineering degree (BS, AOE) from an in-state university. At this point, 20 years down the road, having lived frugally the whole time, I own a mobile home that is older than I am, on a rented lot, no retirement 401k, medical care plan is over 1/3 of my income, and no significant savings or money to send my 14 year old to college in 4 years. No land, either.
The companies that have used my skills have all profited heavily from them, but I have not. Nor is my anecdotal evidence far from the truth for most other college educated americans, recently.
Since the sole beneficiary of a college degree is the employers, I categorically refuse to send my kid to college, and have advised him not to waste his time on it, either.
Nor have colleges satisfied their charters, that I should support them.
Then you must suck at your job, negotiating pay, and/or budgeting. After 20 years with a BSEE, I have two houses, 220 acres of land, nearly $1M in retirement accounts, family medical plan that is $240/month, one kid through college, another in it, and a third on the way there. No, I did not get a dime from my poor-as-shit parents.
I agree that college is not for everyone - someone has to flip burgers, be a Walmart greeter, mow lawns, and clean houses.
Wild insects are loaded with insecticides.
This word "insecticide". I don't think it means what you think it means.
I take it you've never head of Median Lethal Dose
No, he means the half-term governor. Quitter!
As opposed to the president, who quit halfway through a Senate term, or a pair of Senators (Clinton and Kerry) who quit halfway through to be Secretary of State? Maybe a San Francisco mayor that quit to be lt. governor? Politicians moving on to larger jobs is a universal, not a new, Republican, or Democrat phenomenon.
About the only thing no one quits is the House - because the two year terms line up with whatever other election you want to pursue. And even then, i think there are a couple people who've bailed to move up. Really doubt they were all members of the same party that you don't like.
Not the same thing, dumbass, and here's why: Obama didn't quit the Senate - he was promoted to President. Clinton didn't quit as Secretary of State - she stayed for the entire administration (Obama's first term). Kerry didn't quit the Senate - he was promoted to Secretary of State Palin failed to get the job as VP, went back to being governor, then quit halfway through her term. She didn't quit until July 2009. She didn't get a promotion, unless you think a reality show is a promotion.
+107, Insightful
You mean Palin the sweatheart of Busting the Oil Companies Balls in Alaska and the Crusader against the "Good Olde Politcal Boys" Club in Alaska who had many positive Articles written about her BEFORE August 2008, but then who after the 2008 RNC convention was worse than Ming the Merciless accroding to the same people who wrote the glowing articles about her not one month ago....
The same Palin that had quotes miss-attrributed to her that were spoken by a half rate SNL actress...
Yeah, that Palin....
No, he means the half-term governor. Quitter!
Um, Hillary is actually not currently in Govt. any more; John Kerry now runs the State Department.
Don't go confusing the rightwingers with facts. If they actually had any facts, they'd be insufferable.
No. If they had facts, they'd realize that being rightwing is idiotic.
Copycats! The US Government has been doing that for years.
You failed to see the point. There are an infinite number of "possibilities" of how we got here. We can't teach them all. I can invent hundreds every day. Maybe a space cat vomited us all out. Maybe a space zebra shitted us out. Maybe we evolved from inter-dimensional rock creatures. Maybe some white guy in the sky invented us. It's all fiction. If you're going to teach fiction, say it's fiction.
+20, Insightful.
Men have gotten the shaft when it comes to children for most of the time society has existed.
Pro tip: You're doing it wrong. If you want children, give the women the shaft.