The problem is they are selling it below Apple's cost. According to Apple no one should be allowed to undercut Apple, and they have lawyers to prove it.
It works the same the other way too. According to Amazon, no one should be allowed to undercut Amazon, and they have lawyers and contracts to prove it. You can't even have a sale on another site without offering Amazon the same sale pricing.
Hey, this is Slashdot. You're supposed to be bashing Apple, not pointing out that Amazon does the same thing.
No-one complains about LCD desktop displays because they sit in one place, and you adjust them so they don't catch the light and show reflections You can't do that with a tablet.
So, adjusting a big, fixed desktop display to avoid reflections is easier than a small, mobile display. Wow, you must be severely handicapped.
The polygamist nature of the compound he supposedly lived in till age 5 being relevant....how? Or is this one of those things called "smearing your opponent"?
Please guys, lets try to elevate this out of the muck. If you have a problem with Romney's policy persuasion, then vote on it. Dont smear the guy with irrelevant attacks though, it does noone any favors.
In case you hadn't noticed, I was correcting someone's claim of Romney being born in Mexico. The polygamist angle is just a detail of why his father was born there. Apparently, I was correcting someone who knew very well he was making a false claim but that fact went over my head until it was explained to me by another.
Of course, unlike Obama, neither Mitt Romney's father nor his grandfather were polygamists. Both were married to the same woman for their entire lives.
I never said they were polygamists. And your accusation of Obama being one is patently ridiculous.
Now the other side just has to steal Obama's college records and threaten to release them if Romney's tax records get released.
Except Obama's college records are a true "who cares?" and Romney's tax records could show the world he pays a tiny fraction of his income in taxes, that he took advantage of tax amnesty for cheats, etc.
Bullshit. As of this moment (and certainly when the tax returns were made) he is an American citizen, and nothing more, just like you.
Is he an American? Rumor is he was born in Mexico. Why hasn't he produced a REAL birth certificate?
Rumors are he will be the first Mexican national to become president of the United States with the purpose of returning all lands taken from Mexico in our wars with them.
Rumors are he does not produce his tax returns because he has been filing them in Mexico, not the US...
No, his father was born in Mexico (and lived there his first 5 years of life). On a polygamist compound founded specifically to evade US laws against polygamy. That is all fact.
People should keep what they earn. Investment money is not earned money. Money through running a business? Somewhere in betweenm but there's a LOT of grey area in there isn't there?
Right on! Even the IRS calls it "unearned income."
Except all Obama and his party have done is move money in all the wrong fucking places. We have nothing to show for our infrastructure because nothing was really spent on it. Corporate welfare to the too-big-too-fail banks helps who exactly?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but TARP was signed by Dubya.
You just pointed your warped opinions blatantly ignoring any argument or fact you didn't like and praising jurors that obviously didn't do their jobs and where stupid enough to openly state this, proving that Hanlon Razor is true again. If those jurors are your heroes, you are even more pitiful than the average Apple fanboy, Mr Troll, because you are praising and defending stupidity.
Wow, check you 'droid rage, dude. I never praised the jury, I just mocked the fools who think they are so damn superior because they can shout "u can't patent a rectangle" and think that's intelligent opinion. Just because I don't shout about stupid juries, doesn't make me a so-called Apple fanboy - I presented no such argument. Grow up and move out of your mom's basement.
You're saying nobody should have an opinion on the idiocy of the verdict, and your own logic isn't limited to that facet of the trail - it's not limited at all. Since we don't have the exact evidence presented before the jury any case, and will always be tainted by opinions and facts not present in the trial (any writer or reporter is going to show an inherent bias towards one side or the other) we can never reflect on the ruling.
I said no such thing. I only mock those who make snap decisions based on "u can't patent rectangles" while slamming a jury for making a decision they disagree with as "idiotic." These people did not see the evidence presented, yet vilify people doing their civic duty just because they don't like Apple. They are no different than a certain megalomanic who threatened to go thermonuclear on Android.
No, you're insulting people that post considered viewpoints and making up ridiculous shit that you can't possibly justify.
You're discounting the professional views of informed people that happily admit that they themselves couldn't have reached a verdict - any verdict - in three days and that it's pretty ludicrous that 9 people with no prior grounding in the issues can read, assess, understand and reach a reasonable judgement on such a complicated set of issues in that time frame.
Now throw in the multiple statements by members of the jury that reveal that they didn't follow the prescribed processes and that they made demonstrably false assumptions. Add in the fact that they awarded damages for something they didn't find to be infringing and top it all off with the suggestion that they wanted the payment to be punitive and not just damages.
I suggest you switch off your computer, disconnect your keyboard and sell it. It might stop you looking such a cunt online, but I can't promise that - the compelling evidence is that you'll manage it no matter how much we try and stop you.
Now, you're just making shit up. I never insulted anyone with considered viewpoints. I mocked people who made snap decisions long ago based on "u can't patent rectangles" while simultaneously blasting a jury for coming to a decision "too fast." Just because someone doesn't agree with your particular brand of hate doesn't make them a "cunt" as you say. If you have nothing nice to say please STFU yourself, fuckwad!
'We' as in the few people that are wasting their times talking to you in this thread, all people considerably more informed about the case than you and the jurors. And fear not, the decision certainly won't be reached by us, but it will be reached when this trial is voided, which will happen very soon if the jurors keep giving interviews about how clever they were in ignoring several of their instructions and skipping the boring stuff. The truth is things happen regardless of your wishes, Mr. little and irrelevant troll. Now be a good pet and go lick your iPad.
Oh, I bow down to your obvious superior knowledge, Mr Stupid Troll. I have NEVER in this thread supported Apple. I only pointed out the weak, snap, judgements made by fandroids, as if they had a dog in the fight. You and those like you are petty, no different than Jobs' thermonuclear comment. Now go suck on your Android.
The Op-Ed pages you are deriding have the advantage of shining light on these shennanigans.
Fair enough. The Op-Ed pages (that I do NOT deride, just indicate that they are opinion) are also full of many people (on both sides of the issue) that present biased, intentionally false, exaggerated claims that do not belong in a courtroom.
You don't read news on the interwebs? maybe you should since there has been whole legal write ups about it.
You're just so egotistical that you assume you know things WITHOUT reading them.
No, bonehead. I never made any claims whatsoever to know anything about this case. I just think the same people who claim the jury came back too fast and couldn't have made a considered opinion had made much faster snap judgements and I'm calling them out on it.
No, I'm just no so egotistical that I think I'm superior to a jury when I've only seen a tiny fraction of the evidence as presented on opinion sites.
Well lets see, I've been in the industry for three decades and have read absolutely anything and everything about the case, and I hold or was responsible for guiding the process for hundreds of patents. I think the verdict is ridiculous. In fact, I think we wasted an awful lot of judicial time even hearing it. Then get back to actually inventing things that are clearly patented. Gestures and finger flicks aren't inventions.
While I might be egotistical, I'm also far better qualified than the bunch of neophytes that were packed into the jury box. I'm also able to form a pretty full opinion without sitting in the courtroom for three weeks. Shoot me.
Yada, yada, yada. I'm sure the expert you say you are Mr. Interwebs. And by the way, I'm one of the Samsung engineers who designed the phone in question and we definitely planned to copy as much as possible. We are guilty as shit and I'm glad we were caught for it.
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how do you sell an ebook copy at "below cost"
The problem is they are selling it below Apple's cost. According to Apple no one should be allowed to undercut Apple, and they have lawyers to prove it.
It works the same the other way too. According to Amazon, no one should be allowed to undercut Amazon, and they have lawyers and contracts to prove it. You can't even have a sale on another site without offering Amazon the same sale pricing.
Hey, this is Slashdot. You're supposed to be bashing Apple, not pointing out that Amazon does the same thing.
Stores sell milk at a HUGE loss (about $2 a bag here in Canada)
I knew Canada was weird, but you sell milk in a bag?
No-one complains about LCD desktop displays because they sit in one place, and you adjust them so they don't catch the light and show reflections You can't do that with a tablet.
So, adjusting a big, fixed desktop display to avoid reflections is easier than a small, mobile display. Wow, you must be severely handicapped.
...but historically, Google patents don't concern me or anyone else in the tech sector.
Nice to know you speak for everyone in the tech sector.
The polygamist nature of the compound he supposedly lived in till age 5 being relevant....how? Or is this one of those things called "smearing your opponent"?
Please guys, lets try to elevate this out of the muck. If you have a problem with Romney's policy persuasion, then vote on it. Dont smear the guy with irrelevant attacks though, it does noone any favors.
In case you hadn't noticed, I was correcting someone's claim of Romney being born in Mexico. The polygamist angle is just a detail of why his father was born there. Apparently, I was correcting someone who knew very well he was making a false claim but that fact went over my head until it was explained to me by another.
Actually, Obama Sr. was a bigamist, though his grandfather was a polygamist.
Of course, unlike Obama, neither Mitt Romney's father nor his grandfather were polygamists. Both were married to the same woman for their entire lives.
I never said they were polygamists. And your accusation of Obama being one is patently ridiculous.
Now the other side just has to steal Obama's college records and threaten to release them if Romney's tax records get released.
Except Obama's college records are a true "who cares?" and Romney's tax records could show the world he pays a tiny fraction of his income in taxes, that he took advantage of tax amnesty for cheats, etc.
Bullshit. As of this moment (and certainly when the tax returns were made) he is an American citizen, and nothing more, just like you.
Is he an American? Rumor is he was born in Mexico. Why hasn't he produced a REAL birth certificate?
Rumors are he will be the first Mexican national to become president of the United States with the purpose of returning all lands taken from Mexico in our wars with them.
Rumors are he does not produce his tax returns because he has been filing them in Mexico, not the US...
No, his father was born in Mexico (and lived there his first 5 years of life). On a polygamist compound founded specifically to evade US laws against polygamy. That is all fact.
What's the rationale for keeping the information secret?
He doesn't want everyone to see what a low overall tax RATE he is paying.
Allow me to summarize. Apple obvious patent - bad; Google obvious patent - good.
People should keep what they earn. Investment money is not earned money. Money through running a business? Somewhere in betweenm but there's a LOT of grey area in there isn't there?
Right on! Even the IRS calls it "unearned income."
Except all Obama and his party have done is move money in all the wrong fucking places. We have nothing to show for our infrastructure because nothing was really spent on it. Corporate welfare to the too-big-too-fail banks helps who exactly?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but TARP was signed by Dubya.
Sucks to work in a Q-tip factory, huh?
Never heard of it
Me neither. I thought it was some new leap-year thing ("adding a day").
I won't believe any of it until I see the birth certificate.
Going to explain why they gave all the UID of their devices to the FBI?
You assume Apple gave them to the FBI. More likely, the FBI has a covert spying app in the app store.
Giant spectacular leap of logic. That does not sound opinionated to me.
How in the world does the adjective "giant spectacular leap" not sound opinionated to you? Are you just a fool?
You just pointed your warped opinions blatantly ignoring any argument or fact you didn't like and praising jurors that obviously didn't do their jobs and where stupid enough to openly state this, proving that Hanlon Razor is true again. If those jurors are your heroes, you are even more pitiful than the average Apple fanboy, Mr Troll, because you are praising and defending stupidity.
Wow, check you 'droid rage, dude. I never praised the jury, I just mocked the fools who think they are so damn superior because they can shout "u can't patent a rectangle" and think that's intelligent opinion. Just because I don't shout about stupid juries, doesn't make me a so-called Apple fanboy - I presented no such argument. Grow up and move out of your mom's basement.
You're saying nobody should have an opinion on the idiocy of the verdict, and your own logic isn't limited to that facet of the trail - it's not limited at all. Since we don't have the exact evidence presented before the jury any case, and will always be tainted by opinions and facts not present in the trial (any writer or reporter is going to show an inherent bias towards one side or the other) we can never reflect on the ruling.
I said no such thing. I only mock those who make snap decisions based on "u can't patent rectangles" while slamming a jury for making a decision they disagree with as "idiotic." These people did not see the evidence presented, yet vilify people doing their civic duty just because they don't like Apple. They are no different than a certain megalomanic who threatened to go thermonuclear on Android.
No, you're insulting people that post considered viewpoints and making up ridiculous shit that you can't possibly justify.
You're discounting the professional views of informed people that happily admit that they themselves couldn't have reached a verdict - any verdict - in three days and that it's pretty ludicrous that 9 people with no prior grounding in the issues can read, assess, understand and reach a reasonable judgement on such a complicated set of issues in that time frame.
Now throw in the multiple statements by members of the jury that reveal that they didn't follow the prescribed processes and that they made demonstrably false assumptions. Add in the fact that they awarded damages for something they didn't find to be infringing and top it all off with the suggestion that they wanted the payment to be punitive and not just damages.
I suggest you switch off your computer, disconnect your keyboard and sell it. It might stop you looking such a cunt online, but I can't promise that - the compelling evidence is that you'll manage it no matter how much we try and stop you.
Now, you're just making shit up. I never insulted anyone with considered viewpoints. I mocked people who made snap decisions long ago based on "u can't patent rectangles" while simultaneously blasting a jury for coming to a decision "too fast." Just because someone doesn't agree with your particular brand of hate doesn't make them a "cunt" as you say. If you have nothing nice to say please STFU yourself, fuckwad!
'We' as in the few people that are wasting their times talking to you in this thread, all people considerably more informed about the case than you and the jurors. And fear not, the decision certainly won't be reached by us, but it will be reached when this trial is voided, which will happen very soon if the jurors keep giving interviews about how clever they were in ignoring several of their instructions and skipping the boring stuff. The truth is things happen regardless of your wishes, Mr. little and irrelevant troll. Now be a good pet and go lick your iPad.
Oh, I bow down to your obvious superior knowledge, Mr Stupid Troll. I have NEVER in this thread supported Apple. I only pointed out the weak, snap, judgements made by fandroids, as if they had a dog in the fight. You and those like you are petty, no different than Jobs' thermonuclear comment. Now go suck on your Android.
The Op-Ed pages you are deriding have the advantage of shining light on these shennanigans.
Fair enough. The Op-Ed pages (that I do NOT deride, just indicate that they are opinion) are also full of many people (on both sides of the issue) that present biased, intentionally false, exaggerated claims that do not belong in a courtroom.
You don't read news on the interwebs? maybe you should since there has been whole legal write ups about it. You're just so egotistical that you assume you know things WITHOUT reading them.
No, bonehead. I never made any claims whatsoever to know anything about this case. I just think the same people who claim the jury came back too fast and couldn't have made a considered opinion had made much faster snap judgements and I'm calling them out on it.
No, I'm just no so egotistical that I think I'm superior to a jury when I've only seen a tiny fraction of the evidence as presented on opinion sites.
Well lets see, I've been in the industry for three decades and have read absolutely anything and everything about the case, and I hold or was responsible for guiding the process for hundreds of patents. I think the verdict is ridiculous. In fact, I think we wasted an awful lot of judicial time even hearing it. Then get back to actually inventing things that are clearly patented. Gestures and finger flicks aren't inventions.
While I might be egotistical, I'm also far better qualified than the bunch of neophytes that were packed into the jury box. I'm also able to form a pretty full opinion without sitting in the courtroom for three weeks. Shoot me.
Yada, yada, yada. I'm sure the expert you say you are Mr. Interwebs. And by the way, I'm one of the Samsung engineers who designed the phone in question and we definitely planned to copy as much as possible. We are guilty as shit and I'm glad we were caught for it.