None thus far from what I can tell. The big 6: AOL Time warner, Bertlsman, Disney, News Corp, Viacom and Vivendi are all run by right-wing conservatives. I'v been seeing more bullshit about briteny spears or the war on a daily basis than I have about gore bitching about the voting machines (which gives me some respect for the man but you've got to wonder what his agenda is).
Will it be likely that the story will be broken on these companies media? Probably not, not unless these 6 mongules say "oh, fsck, millions of people already know, we should, uh, do a story before it's too late and we loose legitimancy".
But for the past 25 years or so, their direction has been to exercise authority to prevent monopolies from impeding progress. The Internet itself only exists, for instance, because the FCC ordered AT&T, in the 1970s, to remove a restriction on "sharing and resale" of leased line circuits.
Firstly, if the clearchannelization of the airwaves and microsoftization of the computer market isn't robust proof of the FCC's wonderful failure at dealing with monopolies, then I don't know what is. Plus, they deal with a lot of censorship and while I don't think a 5 year old watching bodies get ripped apart is right, I also don't think a 5 year old spending 40 hours a week infront of TV programming setup to hypnotise them is right either. If it weren't for consumerism being at the level it is today, anyone could register airspace and start broadcasting on frequencies TV's can pickup, meaning, TV companies are afraid of non-commercial, non for profit unfiltered media that will disrupt their 24/7 advertising orgy that keeps people calm and complacent shoppers. If all of a sudden joe sixpack were to wake up (quite literally, since most television and commericals are designed in a hypnotic way) and start thinking "you know, this television sucks and it isn't entertaining, I think I'm gonna go read" that would be disasterous to profits. Infact, a large part of joe sixpacks' character is sleazy, useless television that keeps joe sixpack dumb. That's what happened to me, and since then, I'v stopped buying a lot of crap I didn't need or want and have spend more hours reading free material off of the internet than I spend working or buying crap, or watching advertising.
While it is neccissary to regulate the airwaves because there is A: a limited number of bands comerical equipment can pickup and B: A limited amount of radiation the enviroment can take before it begins to fall apart as well as other limitations, I still see little reason to regulate the airwaves to the point they are today accept to hand over monopolies to corperations like they did in the 1500-1700's, and anyone with knowledge of why the American revolution started would understand what handing monopolies of vital resources over to large corperations leads to.
Secondly, the internet would've existed without multiplexing. Infact, multiplexing has little do to with the internet and it's startup. The internet started with corperations computer systems interfacing with other computer systems over the telephone lines or special data lines; the invention of multiplexing simply made it less expensive in the beginning days by keeping monopolization at a minimum,, the monopoly over the telephone lines would've been broken at one point or another either by another corperation or by the goverment through lobbying bodies or they would've found less cost prohibitive systems such as satellite systems. In time, geeks setup servers on these corperate systems for communications and as computers grew in number in households, buisnesses thought the internet was a great way to make money, and that's when AOL got involved. When AOL got involved, dialup access was the prime medium and a lack of a monopoly over that medium was key to the internet's early success. And now, we've got this robust system that continues to grow daily and exponentially that has more and more applications every day.
My point is, that move helped to keep ma bell from becoming a monopoly. If ma bell stayed a monopoly then it'd have wide ranging effects on buisnesses and we'd all be screwed. Multiplexing would've been invented at some other point, infact it's used in computers quite commonly especially over fibre for one example, there are only so many ways data can go over a wire ya know.
Hohum, so if I operate a teamsound, teamspeak, ventrillo, etc server for gaming purposes does that mean I'v gotta deal with FCC regulations? VOIP is kinda really broad terminology.
I'v actually setup a ventrillo chat for my grandma/aunt/mother to talk on the computer. Far less expensive than the long distance charges and they can talk for hours with the broadband setup.
But you see, the very fact that if I deselect ITunes and all of a sudden they implement the listeners lisence, I'll be out of luck in finding out quickly enough.
As for the kewlest inventions, Sharaza ver 1.9 that handles multiple p2p networks is far neater. But of course, if you read the "media monopoly", and "you are being lied to" as well as a guide to brainwashing you might have an idea of why I'm right in that statement. Most P2P apps have them on their if you don't have the moolah to spend on stuff plus the author won't have a problem with you downloading it, so why don't you mosey onto sharaza and get the book and tell me again if Itunes is neater than a p2p app or, say, the segay, or a quantum cnot gate, or waste?
No better than advertising and product placement imo.
But wait, could I be wrong? Time magazine is owned by AOLTimeWarner, which makes money off of ITunes. So never in a million years would time magazine ever thing to run an advert, er, article on something their making money on so they could make more money, but since the people buying the magazine take it legit as an article and the truth or as good opinion, they'll just eat it up without thinking twice.
Seriously slashdot editors, can't you post something up interesting?
Kid, critical shit isn't connected to the Internet. It's just not. Web servers don't count as mission critical. I don't think that anybody died because of "Blaster". Hackers are *not* that important.
Dumass, so you're telling me that millions of people in corperate america don't have their machines hooked onto the internet? You're telling me every single internet connection of all the fortune 500 companies internal networks are all as secure as the militaries? You're telling me that a virus can't spread onto some floppy, get stored into the system at some point, spread silently and explode? You're telling me that blaster didn't infect a nuclear fucking generators internal network?
Yeah, you're describing dorks in school that got beat up. Boo-fuckin'-hoo. If you read the article you'd realize that she said that this is NOT the stereotypical virus writer.
Yes, and those dorks grow up one day into adults you know. Many a passion that was started as a teenager grows into the career of an adult.
Insecure from what? Oh yeah, script kiddies telling us how insecure our boxes are. It's a vicious cycle. Security wouldn't be a problem if not for these little spoiled shits with too much time on their hands.
Ahh, someone who buys into microsoft logic! Fine, the script kitties don't exist. What then? Are they the ones liberating millions of creditcard numbers from bestbuy.com? Are they the ones who are orchestrating the Diebold voting machine system scandal, where they hack into and change the voter readouts? Are they the ones who liberated the Halflife 2 code? Are they behind sobig, sircam, blaster, melissa etc? The problem isn't the script kitties, it's idiots like you going around and telling us it's the script kitties when it's really criminals who are the threat. You're akin to the idiot who says the street vagrants that pickpocket are the problem when the burglars are breaking into the bank and stealing everyone blind. The street vagrants drive up the price of walking in the street sure, but at the end of the day you won't loose your life savings, identity, car, posessions, or anything else to them. Because of the script kitties and their exploration and sometimes malicious activity, it makes everyone have minimal security and by minimal, I mean at least firewall. Did anyone with a firewall that was properly configured catch blaster? I sure didn't.
And even then, what are you going to do to correct the problem? Jail 13 year olds in federal pound-thee-in-the-ass-prison for life? Dumb down the schools even more? The only solution I see is starting a nationwide program for them to explore and have fun, and give them books that teach them the values of a white cap hacker as supposed to a grey cap one and expect that some of them may very well be grey cap or even black cap even with the best of intentions. The only solution I see is to completly change the school system from an institution of opression and ignorance to an institution of learning and enlightenment.
That was the most ridiculous movie I've ever seen. That doesn't prove anything. And yes, you are nuts. Fucking nuts if you think that the movie "Independence Day" proves anything.
Just because it's silly and just because it's a movie doesn't mean that it's stupid or doesn't proove anything. You're telling me that watching fight club or the matix doesn't incite someone to think?
Last I checked, virus writers aren't fixing anything.
Hohum, so what do you call exploit code? All exploit code is produced through computer hacking. All viruses are based off of exploit code, therefore, all virus writing is produced by computer hacking. Virus writers are hackers, but they take other hackers exploites and make viruses from them, it's a part of the process. If you want to study how viruses progress best in order to creat barriers to keep them out of your network, you must creat test viruses. Many hundreds of viruses a
Why is Mickey Mouse, The Beatles, and Aerosmith still under copyright in the usa? Because copyright lasts for 97 years last I checked, and has been extended 11 times in the past century. Anyone who has looked at this pattern will understand that when copyright lives forever, large corperations will simply aquire more and more and more copyrights until they own all the music and once they have extablished a monopoly, they then own the culture, as the RIAA does for example, and we're in a bad situation as we are now where the media is continuing to get cruddier and cruddier, news content gets worse every year, and the goverment can get away with voting machines that don't actually count votes properly.
Before we go about proposing new solutions, how about we fix the system first and slaughter the pigs at the top? I have a feeling if the system was fixed and worked properly as it was intended then we wouldn't have all these problems, or better yet. Mabye if the hippies and techies went down to the library (you know, that place with a lot of books, they rent them for free ya know) or picked up a computer with a p2p app installed and started to do some research on their culture and history, and then proceeded to teach their kids, relatives, etc then mabye we wouldn't have such dumbfoundingly stupid ideas being popped up on slashdot and nerds with little understanding about how the system works poking holes in every orifice of the idea.
Or even better, mabye if the public school system taught history properly, and taught the kids of the mistakes other countries and goverments have made, showed them what war, poverty, disease, etc is (and not bf1942 or happi dappy descriptions out of books; I'm talking graphic pictures, audio, movies, etc so they know what it is) and how to watch out for racism, fascism, and why these things are wrong, and actually helped to make kids into producive members of society rahter than complacent burger flippers we'd be better off.
Firstly, virus writers are people who find challenges in their work; they do it for fun or money; rarely if ever is there a hacker who was motivated to gain their knowledge from feelings of intense hate or greed. It takes a lot of time, talent, and work to learn to hack, and usually somewhere along the line you get a political and social education that, due to the inherently high intellegence you recive, learn to cherish and use.
Case in point, why hasn't the doomsday virus been released? Think blaster accept it turns your computer into a spam machine and deletes everything accept windows and the virus, for example. Any hacker with sufficient knowledge of how to do this also knows that we live 3 meals from anarchy; if the accounting and shipping systems of a major food chain go down because of your virus and can't be brought back up again, the food won't get delivered. What happens to the inner cities and suburbs? The farms? Other countries?
They know if they do this that they are indirectly fucking themselves, and many infact fear other hackers doing this. This is the reason for blaster; to show everyone how insecure the system is and all it takes is one person with sufficient knowledge to start ww3.
Additionally, hackers are extremly social beings. They all come from varied backround but almost all have 2 things in common; they faced conflict at a young age that they overcame, and that they overcame our school system dumbing down intact enough that they still have a love for learning and playing. They love to be social, infact, some 2600 meetings involve people bringing their boxen, and trying to hack eachother to kingdom com, this is the basis of social virus writing she is talking about although some groups may be more militant than others. Some hacker cons also feature this but wherever there's a major con, there is also feds and police but the smaller meetings are unpoliced and patrons (such as stores, becuase face it, they don't hold these at houses that often) usually welcome the groups as they bring buisness. The more friendly groups welcome newbies to learn so long as they don't come too often (even the best of us will go on a homicidal rampage if people ask questions too often, too repeditvly).
What bothers me is how she ends the article "There are much better ways to use your time online." which shows she knows nothing about the subject she's writing about. Do what else online? But crap? Play games? Watch pr0n and jack off, pirate music and movies, get angry about stuff help political movements? Join a irc group circle jerk where everyone else calls everyone else l33t?
Writing viruses is a crucial part of our society, if it weren't for these smaller groups we wouldn't know how insecure everything is and if we didn't know how insecure everything is, we wouldn't be trying to secure it. Take Independance Day (Yea, the movie with all those aliens and ships nuking us). Why did we win? Because the aliens had bad computer security, that's why. People call me nuts, but when it boils down to it, do you want to be safe from the pain or do you want to take the pain full on and if you survive it, will you then learn?
I also had a big problem with this part;
"I believe that with correctly designed curriculum, talking about ethics can really reduce these behaviours," she said, "they need to learn from the first time they use a computer what is appropriate and what is not." .
Oh, so it's wrong for me to figure out what's wrong with a computer and fix it, but it's right for microsoft to lie to millions of people and advertise their OS as secure then bribe judges to be nice to them? This bitch has no idea what she's talking about and BBC by publishing her bullshit has further done damage to the reputation of hackers everywhere.
Finally, to end this on a constructive note, If you want to have a good understanding of hackers and their nature, listen to radio freek america. They do all sorts of hacking on air th
Waste is out, I'v used it and people I know use it. Download it once off of some p2p app and throw it onto a waste network and the riaa/mpaa won't know a single thing.
Aside from that, once the riaa mentioned they're sueing everything that moves people probably started using ever so popular blacklists that keeps the riaa/mpaa/goverment/spammers from seeing what they've got or advertising files to them and probably started taking the crazy folks warnings, er, advice more seriously. So while p2p may be stronger than ever, their probing becomes ever more innacurate due to the blacklisting.
They won't succeed in stopping p2p, they'll just drive it underground. Waste is a form of that, as nobody can get onto the network without the proper key and ip swap. I just hope the members of the riaa's cartel loose profits until they go out of buisness and the chickenshit artists who support them starve. Sure, it's a harsh thing to say but I don't like the alternative.
Or is everyone a little freaked about Microsoft offering money for the information. $250k is a lot of money, and can make a lot of people go nuts. I'm also a bit fearful of the part where they're announcing with the secret service and FBI. Since when did goverment investigative agencies work with multibillion doller corperations? From what I understand they shouldn't be putting an act together on stage. If MS wants to offer a bounty that's one thing, casnio's in las vegas do it all the time, but to work with law enforcement authorities so tightly that you can barely tell them apart makes me quite scared.
Another thing that scares me shitless is the idea of MS actually getting the corperate right to bear arms so they can fight cybercrime or some other bullshit reason (take your pick). For some reason, MS having blackops(which they already have no doubt, but on a much smaller scale) on a police-force sized scale gives me the hibblyjibblies, especially if they decide to force their coders to eat, sleep, work and live on the MS gated community where they have to sign a contract to work and the contract takes away all their rights.
Oh yes, it's the HACKERS that are evil
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With just over a year to go before the next presidential race, touchscreen voting machines don't seem like the cure-all some thought they would be. Skeptics fear they'll only produce more problems, from making recounts less reliable to giving computer hackers a chance to sabotage results.
Oh yes, those EVIL HACKERS are going to really fsck the election. Why didn't they cite the connections in diebold to republicrats and the fishy elections? Oh, right, because it's one big merry-go-round clusterfuck. hmm...so the reason the machines are saying republican are because they are broken or hackers are making the votes republican but somehow I think a hacker is more likely to have everyone vote for "my big cok" rather than the govenator.
And I'll bet if Ralph Nader wins the next presidential election, that they'll do several recounts in disbelief and try to make sure he isn't president and if he gets 20% (which I think he will, he got over 5% last time around when crazy mofo's like me didn't know him) of the vote and any voting area with these machines will eek out almost every vote in favor of bush. They'll probably pass some bill so that their foundation won't get federal funding the next year like they did last time.
*walks into store, gets a cart, starts going down isle*
"Ya can't stop eatin' X brand potatoe chips. They are delicious. And don't forget our breads."
"SHUT UP!!!"
*looks for mute button, finds no mute button*
"And don't forget to try some of our meats and veggie packed dinners! Their scrumdittlyupmtious!"
"MOTHERFUCKER!!! I'LL KILL YOU!!! AAAHHHH"
*picks up the cart by the front end, swings it down onto the handle where the device is smashing most of the cart and the device into bits, gets charged with a crapton of stuff, goes to prison for 10 years, never returns to the store again.*
Seriously, most people won't stand up for this kind of abuse. I know I won't. Although the first reaction will be to walk upto the manager and say
"Hi, yea, see this wallet full of money? Becuase your carts give me advertising, I'm not shopping here. I'll do my shopping else where, and go fuck yourself!"
I love how marketers say "well, this is how this works" without saying the "supposed", not how it will work.
I had a physics teacher that will rename nameless who works for a large company that will also remain nameless. They made a fake ear that actually allows people to hear, effectivly curing deathness when the ear is the problem. When you get it installed, which is a surgical process, everyone and everything sounds like daffy duck until your brain gets to know how it works.
Mr. First post up there got the whole reason why they didn't sell them; people would be sueing right and left for whatever they could "your inplant gave me cancer, I'll sue!!!". Or some pantent violation makes it impossible, etc.
Claria sounds like a blobule type of animal; I highly reccomend either a clear yellow blobule, or brown-to-light brown blobule with either a smooth or coarse texture.
Yea, that's right, go on kazaa and type in Diebold and you'll find the mail....on over a hundred different hosts with quick speedy downloads to par!
Same's true for all the p2p apps, even the waste network I'm on! Sorry Diebold, I'm not gonna stop hosting your memo's until your entire goddamn corperation is taken down and the lie is revealed.
Hi, Orwell here. Just a friendly reminder; This is how it's going to start. First, the TV has to read DRM flags and take digital signals, then it'll send digital signals (doesn't have to be long range, rememeber p2p using wireless routers?. Think that with your TV, it'll be called a b00n as well) Then, they'll start adding monitering equipment in the black boxes of the sets which will be justified for data mining or, if the people won't go with that, then it'll be to call the paramedics when you collapse, and finally, all they have to do is add in a carnivore-like computer and you've got yourself the Panapticon situation of 1984.
Actually, the prohibition side thinks that if we allow regulated drugs, everyone will get addicted then get high all the time or if prostitution was legal then everyone would get STD's. I was that way once, but I'm beginning to think that sending anyone who uses or sells drugs to jail for harder and harder sentancing is a bad idea; a 16 year old who smokes a joint shouldn't be throw into jail for life, that isn't on par with say, killing or even raping a person. A better way to deal with it would to make people pay a tax, so that if they do get addicted, there's money for them to go into a govermently run rehabilitation clinic. Some drugs, like heroine need to be illegal and people need to know why, others like alcohol and marajuana can be regulated.
Drugs aren't bad as I'v found, they are just bad if you start using them to fill a void in your life and get addicted. Few people would smoke cigarettes if the advertising didn't make them firstly, need to be cool because if they aren't cool than they won't get women, nice cars, perfect families etc, and secondly, make cigarettes and beer cool so if you use them, you become cool and desirable. Advertising creates the void, then fills it. How many people would smoke tobacco otherwise? I certainly wouldn't, I grew up with a father who quit and a mother and sister who both smoke and I think it's disgusting.
Problem is, our goverment can make more money by selling the drugs to their own citizens (guess how the CIA get's it's funding?) and then throw them into jail to do prison labour for their entire lives through 3-strikes programs. The money gets used in countries like Afganistan and Pakistan with black-ops. They also tax the fsck out of them, which is also a big income. So are they going to pass legislation to take away their powerbase? Not likely; if we stop the funding now, all those people are going to become free, and once they learn the people of the countries they hate and attack had nothing to do with it but rather the goverment officials are the ones doing the bad stuff, who do you think is gonna get hung?
Call me crazy, I'm a bit more worried about carnivore for the mail system.We aren't opening your mail, physically, we're just shining terrahertz waves through it to figure out the contense. How much do you want to bet that you can get past this by wrapping your drugs in radiation shielding or in a safe and mailing it or changing it to something close to the real thing so it can be chemically altered later into the real thing?
What are you doing dave? I'm not a cake, Dave, you shouldn't serve me up at the party. Daaaavey, daaaaaaaaaaaavey, da a a a a aaaaav eeeeeyyy. daaaaaaa.....
Most traffic lights are hooked into the telephone system and use dialtones for configuration. What ever happened to plotting your course and using them? Too hard or expensive?
One can only wonder what playing beethovens 6'th to one of them in dialtones would do....
Of course it's that way. MS may make mistakes (hence, 100's of patches every year) but we all know Micrsooft has an alterier and usually sinister and manipulative motive for everything they do.
The real difference is that it hasn't just become unsuprprising, but predictable that microsoft would do such things. Mandrake having an error isn't suprising, but it isn't predictable either. Software has problems, sometimes things get screwy. But microsoft is predictable; "Oh, they baught up Power PC, lets watch as they monopolize it" then a month later "Oh, it's been monopolized". Look at the front page
Psykechan writes "MSFN has got themselves a beta of the new MS Virtual PC 2004 which should be out at the end of this year. Most notable in their 'fixes' is the removal of Linux, BSD, Netware, and Solaris from the supported OS list. They may still work, they just aren't supported. We all thought that this would happen after MS bought Connectix but this just makes it official."
This has happened so much that we have no trust for microosft left. If they give money for food to the starving children in some god forsaken country we have no reason to give them any quarter, because sure enough, we'll all think of some way to connect it to "the beast" making a profit. Infact, some companies, such as Nestle, Nike, and GE have a reputation of doing just that.
So saying it's a double standard is short of flamebait. Microsoft has a reputation, you know, generally means trust based on past events, of screwing people over. Mandrakesoft doesn't have the same reputation; they don't buy up smaller corperations and monopolize them, they don't steal people's code and use it, they don't use software patents, and they don't start slander campaigns against their competition
Now, if you want a double standard, how about black drivers vs white drivers? We won't pull over the nice tv-perfect family of 4 with 2.5 kids going out of state, but we'll sure as hell slice up the ghetto cruiser for drugs, and bring in the search dogs, and if they find something we'll put it on COPS so everyone will cheer on the police as they violate our constitutional rights, becuase those black people aren't citizens, their TERRORISTS!!! (and just as a side note, thanks to years of television, I am afraid of black people even though I know it's wrong. Gotta love the KKK's media campaign, eh?) Double standards are propegated by steriotypes, not reputations. Steriotypes are by and large incorrect and not truthful, while reputations are truthful and based on the facts most people agree on. If you go onto a pro-microsoft ubb (which I'v been on) you'll find the people there are severaly detached from reality or like slashdotters, but with less of a bias.
Why are people modding this guy down? He's right, Microsoft isn't in foreign countries feeding propaganda to parents to feed their kids Microsoft brand baby milk that gives the kids all sorts of diseases, or in our country building Microsoft brand private prisons that torture people and give life sentances for misdimeanors because prison labour is profitable.
But we do need to realize that our society is built on more than the basic neccesities. The monopoly affects us in indirect ways; slammer getting into hospital databases could mean death for a number of people. Sobig getting into a food distrobution companies system and wrecking it could mean some small town's food shop won't get their shipment this month and the people there will go starving. Some hacker exploiting a RPC hole in the DOD's nuclear mainframe...
So sure, if Microsoft's monopoly goes on I won't starve...yet. If you've ever listened to the tales of the afternow (www.theafternow.com) you'd realize that monopolies have a tendancy to grow, defang goverments (whichis the purpose of the wto btw) and screw people all in the glorious name of gr33d.
Mmm, great idea. Impose, say, a re-election every 2 or 1 year and they'll never get anything done, it'll just be campaign campaign campaign. They'll be out for even more corperate money to fight their battles. Sure, I will admit, making them go up more often will help the competition such as the green party to do their work, and people won't be so forgetful when they pass something they don't like, but by and large we need campaign finance reform first and once we have that, then we can discuss further measures if our leaders don't want to rule properly.
First off, when I say civil disobedience, I'm talking about everything from bombing politicans cars to sending them letters. The only difference between them is how extreme you want to go, I prefer the appropriation system; if they're being annoying, I send them letters. If they're being mean, I don't go along with the system. If they're ready to hold a gun to my head, I wig out and bomb their car or rape their pets.
I actually buy stuff when it isn't from the corperations I don't like and when I feel it's quality. Unfortunatly, people by large seem to lose repect for the 1% of a market when the monopoly that owns 99% of a market becomes abusive , as they lose respect for all laws when 1% of them are abusive.
Another thing you people assume is everyone has money for the luxury that is music. Not everyone has that luxury, some people like college students are real tight and P2P apps are a great way for them to get good music without needing to pay. The people who do spend the little money they have being ripped off by major music labels are the ones who loose respect and with it, don't buy music anymore. The people who are rich and can afford the exuberant pricing are the ones who don't complain and moreso, take offense when other people say it's too expensive. Everyone has a different motive; mine just happens to be because I'm poor, and because I don't like the RIAA/MPAA. If it weren't for P2P technologies, a lot of media; books, movies, manuels, pictures, music, etc would be lost forever and that's also something I want to support.
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None thus far from what I can tell. The big 6: AOL Time warner, Bertlsman, Disney, News Corp, Viacom and Vivendi are all run by right-wing conservatives. I'v been seeing more bullshit about briteny spears or the war on a daily basis than I have about gore bitching about the voting machines (which gives me some respect for the man but you've got to wonder what his agenda is).
Will it be likely that the story will be broken on these companies media? Probably not, not unless these 6 mongules say "oh, fsck, millions of people already know, we should, uh, do a story before it's too late and we loose legitimancy".
But for the past 25 years or so, their direction has been to exercise authority to prevent monopolies from impeding progress. The Internet itself only exists, for instance, because the FCC ordered AT&T, in the 1970s, to remove a restriction on "sharing and resale" of leased line circuits.
Firstly, if the clearchannelization of the airwaves and microsoftization of the computer market isn't robust proof of the FCC's wonderful failure at dealing with monopolies, then I don't know what is. Plus, they deal with a lot of censorship and while I don't think a 5 year old watching bodies get ripped apart is right, I also don't think a 5 year old spending 40 hours a week infront of TV programming setup to hypnotise them is right either. If it weren't for consumerism being at the level it is today, anyone could register airspace and start broadcasting on frequencies TV's can pickup, meaning, TV companies are afraid of non-commercial, non for profit unfiltered media that will disrupt their 24/7 advertising orgy that keeps people calm and complacent shoppers. If all of a sudden joe sixpack were to wake up (quite literally, since most television and commericals are designed in a hypnotic way) and start thinking "you know, this television sucks and it isn't entertaining, I think I'm gonna go read" that would be disasterous to profits. Infact, a large part of joe sixpacks' character is sleazy, useless television that keeps joe sixpack dumb. That's what happened to me, and since then, I'v stopped buying a lot of crap I didn't need or want and have spend more hours reading free material off of the internet than I spend working or buying crap, or watching advertising.
While it is neccissary to regulate the airwaves because there is A: a limited number of bands comerical equipment can pickup and B: A limited amount of radiation the enviroment can take before it begins to fall apart as well as other limitations, I still see little reason to regulate the airwaves to the point they are today accept to hand over monopolies to corperations like they did in the 1500-1700's, and anyone with knowledge of why the American revolution started would understand what handing monopolies of vital resources over to large corperations leads to.
Secondly, the internet would've existed without multiplexing. Infact, multiplexing has little do to with the internet and it's startup. The internet started with corperations computer systems interfacing with other computer systems over the telephone lines or special data lines; the invention of multiplexing simply made it less expensive in the beginning days by keeping monopolization at a minimum,, the monopoly over the telephone lines would've been broken at one point or another either by another corperation or by the goverment through lobbying bodies or they would've found less cost prohibitive systems such as satellite systems. In time, geeks setup servers on these corperate systems for communications and as computers grew in number in households, buisnesses thought the internet was a great way to make money, and that's when AOL got involved. When AOL got involved, dialup access was the prime medium and a lack of a monopoly over that medium was key to the internet's early success. And now, we've got this robust system that continues to grow daily and exponentially that has more and more applications every day.
My point is, that move helped to keep ma bell from becoming a monopoly. If ma bell stayed a monopoly then it'd have wide ranging effects on buisnesses and we'd all be screwed. Multiplexing would've been invented at some other point, infact it's used in computers quite commonly especially over fibre for one example, there are only so many ways data can go over a wire ya know.
Hohum, so if I operate a teamsound, teamspeak, ventrillo, etc server for gaming purposes does that mean I'v gotta deal with FCC regulations? VOIP is kinda really broad terminology.
I'v actually setup a ventrillo chat for my grandma/aunt/mother to talk on the computer. Far less expensive than the long distance charges and they can talk for hours with the broadband setup.
But you see, the very fact that if I deselect ITunes and all of a sudden they implement the listeners lisence, I'll be out of luck in finding out quickly enough.
As for the kewlest inventions, Sharaza ver 1.9 that handles multiple p2p networks is far neater. But of course, if you read the "media monopoly", and "you are being lied to" as well as a guide to brainwashing you might have an idea of why I'm right in that statement. Most P2P apps have them on their if you don't have the moolah to spend on stuff plus the author won't have a problem with you downloading it, so why don't you mosey onto sharaza and get the book and tell me again if Itunes is neater than a p2p app or, say, the segay, or a quantum cnot gate, or waste?
No better than advertising and product placement imo.
But wait, could I be wrong? Time magazine is owned by AOLTimeWarner, which makes money off of ITunes. So never in a million years would time magazine ever thing to run an advert, er, article on something their making money on so they could make more money, but since the people buying the magazine take it legit as an article and the truth or as good opinion, they'll just eat it up without thinking twice.
Seriously slashdot editors, can't you post something up interesting?
Kid, critical shit isn't connected to the Internet. It's just not. Web servers don't count as mission critical. I don't think that anybody died because of "Blaster". Hackers are *not* that important.
Dumass, so you're telling me that millions of people in corperate america don't have their machines hooked onto the internet? You're telling me every single internet connection of all the fortune 500 companies internal networks are all as secure as the militaries? You're telling me that a virus can't spread onto some floppy, get stored into the system at some point, spread silently and explode? You're telling me that blaster didn't infect a nuclear fucking generators internal network?
Yeah, you're describing dorks in school that got beat up. Boo-fuckin'-hoo. If you read the article you'd realize that she said that this is NOT the stereotypical virus writer.
Yes, and those dorks grow up one day into adults you know. Many a passion that was started as a teenager grows into the career of an adult.
Insecure from what? Oh yeah, script kiddies telling us how insecure our boxes are. It's a vicious cycle. Security wouldn't be a problem if not for these little spoiled shits with too much time on their hands.
Ahh, someone who buys into microsoft logic! Fine, the script kitties don't exist. What then? Are they the ones liberating millions of creditcard numbers from bestbuy.com? Are they the ones who are orchestrating the Diebold voting machine system scandal, where they hack into and change the voter readouts? Are they the ones who liberated the Halflife 2 code? Are they behind sobig, sircam, blaster, melissa etc? The problem isn't the script kitties, it's idiots like you going around and telling us it's the script kitties when it's really criminals who are the threat. You're akin to the idiot who says the street vagrants that pickpocket are the problem when the burglars are breaking into the bank and stealing everyone blind. The street vagrants drive up the price of walking in the street sure, but at the end of the day you won't loose your life savings, identity, car, posessions, or anything else to them. Because of the script kitties and their exploration and sometimes malicious activity, it makes everyone have minimal security and by minimal, I mean at least firewall. Did anyone with a firewall that was properly configured catch blaster? I sure didn't.
And even then, what are you going to do to correct the problem? Jail 13 year olds in federal pound-thee-in-the-ass-prison for life? Dumb down the schools even more? The only solution I see is starting a nationwide program for them to explore and have fun, and give them books that teach them the values of a white cap hacker as supposed to a grey cap one and expect that some of them may very well be grey cap or even black cap even with the best of intentions. The only solution I see is to completly change the school system from an institution of opression and ignorance to an institution of learning and enlightenment.
That was the most ridiculous movie I've ever seen. That doesn't prove anything. And yes, you are nuts. Fucking nuts if you think that the movie "Independence Day" proves anything.
Just because it's silly and just because it's a movie doesn't mean that it's stupid or doesn't proove anything. You're telling me that watching fight club or the matix doesn't incite someone to think?
Last I checked, virus writers aren't fixing anything.
Hohum, so what do you call exploit code? All exploit code is produced through computer hacking. All viruses are based off of exploit code, therefore, all virus writing is produced by computer hacking. Virus writers are hackers, but they take other hackers exploites and make viruses from them, it's a part of the process. If you want to study how viruses progress best in order to creat barriers to keep them out of your network, you must creat test viruses. Many hundreds of viruses a
Why is Mickey Mouse, The Beatles, and Aerosmith still under copyright in the usa? Because copyright lasts for 97 years last I checked, and has been extended 11 times in the past century. Anyone who has looked at this pattern will understand that when copyright lives forever, large corperations will simply aquire more and more and more copyrights until they own all the music and once they have extablished a monopoly, they then own the culture, as the RIAA does for example, and we're in a bad situation as we are now where the media is continuing to get cruddier and cruddier, news content gets worse every year, and the goverment can get away with voting machines that don't actually count votes properly.
Before we go about proposing new solutions, how about we fix the system first and slaughter the pigs at the top? I have a feeling if the system was fixed and worked properly as it was intended then we wouldn't have all these problems, or better yet. Mabye if the hippies and techies went down to the library (you know, that place with a lot of books, they rent them for free ya know) or picked up a computer with a p2p app installed and started to do some research on their culture and history, and then proceeded to teach their kids, relatives, etc then mabye we wouldn't have such dumbfoundingly stupid ideas being popped up on slashdot and nerds with little understanding about how the system works poking holes in every orifice of the idea.
Or even better, mabye if the public school system taught history properly, and taught the kids of the mistakes other countries and goverments have made, showed them what war, poverty, disease, etc is (and not bf1942 or happi dappy descriptions out of books; I'm talking graphic pictures, audio, movies, etc so they know what it is) and how to watch out for racism, fascism, and why these things are wrong, and actually helped to make kids into producive members of society rahter than complacent burger flippers we'd be better off.
Firstly, virus writers are people who find challenges in their work; they do it for fun or money; rarely if ever is there a hacker who was motivated to gain their knowledge from feelings of intense hate or greed. It takes a lot of time, talent, and work to learn to hack, and usually somewhere along the line you get a political and social education that, due to the inherently high intellegence you recive, learn to cherish and use.
Case in point, why hasn't the doomsday virus been released? Think blaster accept it turns your computer into a spam machine and deletes everything accept windows and the virus, for example. Any hacker with sufficient knowledge of how to do this also knows that we live 3 meals from anarchy; if the accounting and shipping systems of a major food chain go down because of your virus and can't be brought back up again, the food won't get delivered. What happens to the inner cities and suburbs? The farms? Other countries?
They know if they do this that they are indirectly fucking themselves, and many infact fear other hackers doing this. This is the reason for blaster; to show everyone how insecure the system is and all it takes is one person with sufficient knowledge to start ww3.
Additionally, hackers are extremly social beings. They all come from varied backround but almost all have 2 things in common; they faced conflict at a young age that they overcame, and that they overcame our school system dumbing down intact enough that they still have a love for learning and playing. They love to be social, infact, some 2600 meetings involve people bringing their boxen, and trying to hack eachother to kingdom com, this is the basis of social virus writing she is talking about although some groups may be more militant than others. Some hacker cons also feature this but wherever there's a major con, there is also feds and police but the smaller meetings are unpoliced and patrons (such as stores, becuase face it, they don't hold these at houses that often) usually welcome the groups as they bring buisness. The more friendly groups welcome newbies to learn so long as they don't come too often (even the best of us will go on a homicidal rampage if people ask questions too often, too repeditvly).
What bothers me is how she ends the article "There are much better ways to use your time online." which shows she knows nothing about the subject she's writing about. Do what else online? But crap? Play games? Watch pr0n and jack off, pirate music and movies, get angry about stuff help political movements? Join a irc group circle jerk where everyone else calls everyone else l33t?
Writing viruses is a crucial part of our society, if it weren't for these smaller groups we wouldn't know how insecure everything is and if we didn't know how insecure everything is, we wouldn't be trying to secure it. Take Independance Day (Yea, the movie with all those aliens and ships nuking us). Why did we win? Because the aliens had bad computer security, that's why. People call me nuts, but when it boils down to it, do you want to be safe from the pain or do you want to take the pain full on and if you survive it, will you then learn?
I also had a big problem with this part;
"I believe that with correctly designed curriculum, talking about ethics can really reduce these behaviours," she said, "they need to learn from the first time they use a computer what is appropriate and what is not." .
Oh, so it's wrong for me to figure out what's wrong with a computer and fix it, but it's right for microsoft to lie to millions of people and advertise their OS as secure then bribe judges to be nice to them? This bitch has no idea what she's talking about and BBC by publishing her bullshit has further done damage to the reputation of hackers everywhere.
Finally, to end this on a constructive note, If you want to have a good understanding of hackers and their nature, listen to radio freek america. They do all sorts of hacking on air th
Waste is out, I'v used it and people I know use it. Download it once off of some p2p app and throw it onto a waste network and the riaa/mpaa won't know a single thing.
Aside from that, once the riaa mentioned they're sueing everything that moves people probably started using ever so popular blacklists that keeps the riaa/mpaa/goverment/spammers from seeing what they've got or advertising files to them and probably started taking the crazy folks warnings, er, advice more seriously. So while p2p may be stronger than ever, their probing becomes ever more innacurate due to the blacklisting.
They won't succeed in stopping p2p, they'll just drive it underground. Waste is a form of that, as nobody can get onto the network without the proper key and ip swap. I just hope the members of the riaa's cartel loose profits until they go out of buisness and the chickenshit artists who support them starve. Sure, it's a harsh thing to say but I don't like the alternative.
Or is everyone a little freaked about Microsoft offering money for the information. $250k is a lot of money, and can make a lot of people go nuts. I'm also a bit fearful of the part where they're announcing with the secret service and FBI. Since when did goverment investigative agencies work with multibillion doller corperations? From what I understand they shouldn't be putting an act together on stage. If MS wants to offer a bounty that's one thing, casnio's in las vegas do it all the time, but to work with law enforcement authorities so tightly that you can barely tell them apart makes me quite scared.
Another thing that scares me shitless is the idea of MS actually getting the corperate right to bear arms so they can fight cybercrime or some other bullshit reason (take your pick). For some reason, MS having blackops(which they already have no doubt, but on a much smaller scale) on a police-force sized scale gives me the hibblyjibblies, especially if they decide to force their coders to eat, sleep, work and live on the MS gated community where they have to sign a contract to work and the contract takes away all their rights.
With just over a year to go before the next presidential race, touchscreen voting machines don't seem like the cure-all some thought they would be. Skeptics fear they'll only produce more problems, from making recounts less reliable to giving computer hackers a chance to sabotage results.
Oh yes, those EVIL HACKERS are going to really fsck the election. Why didn't they cite the connections in diebold to republicrats and the fishy elections? Oh, right, because it's one big merry-go-round clusterfuck. hmm...so the reason the machines are saying republican are because they are broken or hackers are making the votes republican but somehow I think a hacker is more likely to have everyone vote for "my big cok" rather than the govenator.
And I'll bet if Ralph Nader wins the next presidential election, that they'll do several recounts in disbelief and try to make sure he isn't president and if he gets 20% (which I think he will, he got over 5% last time around when crazy mofo's like me didn't know him) of the vote and any voting area with these machines will eek out almost every vote in favor of bush. They'll probably pass some bill so that their foundation won't get federal funding the next year like they did last time.
*walks into store, gets a cart, starts going down isle*
"Ya can't stop eatin' X brand potatoe chips. They are delicious. And don't forget our breads."
"SHUT UP!!!" *looks for mute button, finds no mute button*
"And don't forget to try some of our meats and veggie packed dinners! Their scrumdittlyupmtious!"
"MOTHERFUCKER!!! I'LL KILL YOU!!! AAAHHHH"
*picks up the cart by the front end, swings it down onto the handle where the device is smashing most of the cart and the device into bits, gets charged with a crapton of stuff, goes to prison for 10 years, never returns to the store again.*
Seriously, most people won't stand up for this kind of abuse. I know I won't. Although the first reaction will be to walk upto the manager and say
"Hi, yea, see this wallet full of money? Becuase your carts give me advertising, I'm not shopping here. I'll do my shopping else where, and go fuck yourself!"
I love how marketers say "well, this is how this works" without saying the "supposed", not how it will work.
I had a physics teacher that will rename nameless who works for a large company that will also remain nameless. They made a fake ear that actually allows people to hear, effectivly curing deathness when the ear is the problem. When you get it installed, which is a surgical process, everyone and everything sounds like daffy duck until your brain gets to know how it works.
Mr. First post up there got the whole reason why they didn't sell them; people would be sueing right and left for whatever they could "your inplant gave me cancer, I'll sue!!!". Or some pantent violation makes it impossible, etc.
Well, kinda like how you learn about what the hell a computer and what it does.
"what does this part do"
*smash*
"oh, it doesn't work, what does this part do?"
*Smash*
"oh, that doesn't work, ok. what happens if I take out this capaciter"
*sizzle*
Accept it's more like:
"What does this strand do if I add it here?"
*wipes out all the rats it infects, even for antibiotics*
"What happens if I add this protien on here?"
*all the rats develope smallpox and die*
"Ok, so what if I induce this protien into the rat when I put the virii in...."
*Rat gets real sick, then lives it's happy rat life sniffing stuff for years.*
, 'The Big Bang sounded more like a deep hum than a bang, according to an analysis of the radiation left over from the cataclysm.
Kinda like on pork n' beans night when dad decided to let off one of his big ol' stinky farts. This is just silly to say the least.
Claria sounds like a blobule type of animal; I highly reccomend either a clear yellow blobule, or brown-to-light brown blobule with either a smooth or coarse texture.
Yea, that's right, go on kazaa and type in Diebold and you'll find the mail....on over a hundred different hosts with quick speedy downloads to par!
Same's true for all the p2p apps, even the waste network I'm on! Sorry Diebold, I'm not gonna stop hosting your memo's until your entire goddamn corperation is taken down and the lie is revealed.
Hi, Orwell here. Just a friendly reminder; This is how it's going to start. First, the TV has to read DRM flags and take digital signals, then it'll send digital signals (doesn't have to be long range, rememeber p2p using wireless routers?. Think that with your TV, it'll be called a b00n as well) Then, they'll start adding monitering equipment in the black boxes of the sets which will be justified for data mining or, if the people won't go with that, then it'll be to call the paramedics when you collapse, and finally, all they have to do is add in a carnivore-like computer and you've got yourself the Panapticon situation of 1984.
Actually, the prohibition side thinks that if we allow regulated drugs, everyone will get addicted then get high all the time or if prostitution was legal then everyone would get STD's. I was that way once, but I'm beginning to think that sending anyone who uses or sells drugs to jail for harder and harder sentancing is a bad idea; a 16 year old who smokes a joint shouldn't be throw into jail for life, that isn't on par with say, killing or even raping a person. A better way to deal with it would to make people pay a tax, so that if they do get addicted, there's money for them to go into a govermently run rehabilitation clinic. Some drugs, like heroine need to be illegal and people need to know why, others like alcohol and marajuana can be regulated.
Drugs aren't bad as I'v found, they are just bad if you start using them to fill a void in your life and get addicted. Few people would smoke cigarettes if the advertising didn't make them firstly, need to be cool because if they aren't cool than they won't get women, nice cars, perfect families etc, and secondly, make cigarettes and beer cool so if you use them, you become cool and desirable. Advertising creates the void, then fills it. How many people would smoke tobacco otherwise? I certainly wouldn't, I grew up with a father who quit and a mother and sister who both smoke and I think it's disgusting.
Problem is, our goverment can make more money by selling the drugs to their own citizens (guess how the CIA get's it's funding?) and then throw them into jail to do prison labour for their entire lives through 3-strikes programs. The money gets used in countries like Afganistan and Pakistan with black-ops. They also tax the fsck out of them, which is also a big income. So are they going to pass legislation to take away their powerbase? Not likely; if we stop the funding now, all those people are going to become free, and once they learn the people of the countries they hate and attack had nothing to do with it but rather the goverment officials are the ones doing the bad stuff, who do you think is gonna get hung?
Call me crazy, I'm a bit more worried about carnivore for the mail system.We aren't opening your mail, physically, we're just shining terrahertz waves through it to figure out the contense. How much do you want to bet that you can get past this by wrapping your drugs in radiation shielding or in a safe and mailing it or changing it to something close to the real thing so it can be chemically altered later into the real thing?
What are you doing dave? I'm not a cake, Dave, you shouldn't serve me up at the party. Daaaavey, daaaaaaaaaaaavey, da a a a a aaaaav eeeeeyyy. daaaaaaa.....
Most traffic lights are hooked into the telephone system and use dialtones for configuration. What ever happened to plotting your course and using them? Too hard or expensive?
One can only wonder what playing beethovens 6'th to one of them in dialtones would do....
Of course it's that way. MS may make mistakes (hence, 100's of patches every year) but we all know Micrsooft has an alterier and usually sinister and manipulative motive for everything they do.
The real difference is that it hasn't just become unsuprprising, but predictable that microsoft would do such things. Mandrake having an error isn't suprising, but it isn't predictable either. Software has problems, sometimes things get screwy. But microsoft is predictable; "Oh, they baught up Power PC, lets watch as they monopolize it" then a month later "Oh, it's been monopolized". Look at the front page
Psykechan writes "MSFN has got themselves a beta of the new MS Virtual PC 2004 which should be out at the end of this year. Most notable in their 'fixes' is the removal of Linux, BSD, Netware, and Solaris from the supported OS list. They may still work, they just aren't supported. We all thought that this would happen after MS bought Connectix but this just makes it official."
This has happened so much that we have no trust for microosft left. If they give money for food to the starving children in some god forsaken country we have no reason to give them any quarter, because sure enough, we'll all think of some way to connect it to "the beast" making a profit. Infact, some companies, such as Nestle, Nike, and GE have a reputation of doing just that.
So saying it's a double standard is short of flamebait. Microsoft has a reputation, you know, generally means trust based on past events, of screwing people over. Mandrakesoft doesn't have the same reputation; they don't buy up smaller corperations and monopolize them, they don't steal people's code and use it, they don't use software patents, and they don't start slander campaigns against their competition
Now, if you want a double standard, how about black drivers vs white drivers? We won't pull over the nice tv-perfect family of 4 with 2.5 kids going out of state, but we'll sure as hell slice up the ghetto cruiser for drugs, and bring in the search dogs, and if they find something we'll put it on COPS so everyone will cheer on the police as they violate our constitutional rights, becuase those black people aren't citizens, their TERRORISTS!!! (and just as a side note, thanks to years of television, I am afraid of black people even though I know it's wrong. Gotta love the KKK's media campaign, eh?) Double standards are propegated by steriotypes, not reputations. Steriotypes are by and large incorrect and not truthful, while reputations are truthful and based on the facts most people agree on. If you go onto a pro-microsoft ubb (which I'v been on) you'll find the people there are severaly detached from reality or like slashdotters, but with less of a bias.
Why are people modding this guy down? He's right, Microsoft isn't in foreign countries feeding propaganda to parents to feed their kids Microsoft brand baby milk that gives the kids all sorts of diseases, or in our country building Microsoft brand private prisons that torture people and give life sentances for misdimeanors because prison labour is profitable.
But we do need to realize that our society is built on more than the basic neccesities. The monopoly affects us in indirect ways; slammer getting into hospital databases could mean death for a number of people. Sobig getting into a food distrobution companies system and wrecking it could mean some small town's food shop won't get their shipment this month and the people there will go starving. Some hacker exploiting a RPC hole in the DOD's nuclear mainframe...
So sure, if Microsoft's monopoly goes on I won't starve...yet. If you've ever listened to the tales of the afternow (www.theafternow.com) you'd realize that monopolies have a tendancy to grow, defang goverments (whichis the purpose of the wto btw) and screw people all in the glorious name of gr33d.
Mmm, great idea. Impose, say, a re-election every 2 or 1 year and they'll never get anything done, it'll just be campaign campaign campaign. They'll be out for even more corperate money to fight their battles. Sure, I will admit, making them go up more often will help the competition such as the green party to do their work, and people won't be so forgetful when they pass something they don't like, but by and large we need campaign finance reform first and once we have that, then we can discuss further measures if our leaders don't want to rule properly.
First off, when I say civil disobedience, I'm talking about everything from bombing politicans cars to sending them letters. The only difference between them is how extreme you want to go, I prefer the appropriation system; if they're being annoying, I send them letters. If they're being mean, I don't go along with the system. If they're ready to hold a gun to my head, I wig out and bomb their car or rape their pets.
I actually buy stuff when it isn't from the corperations I don't like and when I feel it's quality. Unfortunatly, people by large seem to lose repect for the 1% of a market when the monopoly that owns 99% of a market becomes abusive , as they lose respect for all laws when 1% of them are abusive.
Another thing you people assume is everyone has money for the luxury that is music. Not everyone has that luxury, some people like college students are real tight and P2P apps are a great way for them to get good music without needing to pay. The people who do spend the little money they have being ripped off by major music labels are the ones who loose respect and with it, don't buy music anymore. The people who are rich and can afford the exuberant pricing are the ones who don't complain and moreso, take offense when other people say it's too expensive. Everyone has a different motive; mine just happens to be because I'm poor, and because I don't like the RIAA/MPAA. If it weren't for P2P technologies, a lot of media; books, movies, manuels, pictures, music, etc would be lost forever and that's also something I want to support.