probably the best way to look at it is the unanswered questions angles, and also the string of amazing coincidences angle. There's also the "story changes" various angles, like exactly *what* was NORAD doing that day, and what's up with running a drill about running hijacked planes into buildings on 9-11? And all the lower level FBI agents who got ordered off the case, and are now in lawsuits against the government. And people being given "tips" to not show up for work at the towers that day.
There's a variety of sites out there now that have all sorts of this information. I got started looking into it (I was suspicious the next day when they announced they "knew" who did it, makes ya wonder if this was so why didn't they stop them), over to Alex Jone's site at infowars.com.(exact url http://infowars.com/sept11_archive.htm) The video and still evidence (911inplanesite.com) is telling (and not telling) as well, especially the closeups of the planes that hit the WTC towers (no passenger windows evident, eyewitnesses who claim they also saw no windows, etc), and the amazing lack of damage to the front of the pentagon where allegedly this huge airliner hit. As in unburnt grass where thousands of gallons of jet fuel would have been splashed and burnt. And WTC building 7...uhhh..nothing hit it. It still fell down exactly like a controlled demolition would have done it, and the actual owner of the place is quoted on audio as saying "they made a decision to pull it".
Lotsa stuff. Not sure where you have looked, but those are two places to start, and google will give you tons more. I have the video "9-11, road to tyranny" most excellent, free for copying and sharing and I know it's on the P2P networks. tyhat's a good one, too.
Her's a generic overview that was easy to find as well: http://rense.com/general32/25.htm
--basically, there's just too much evidence out there. There's way more than what is needed for an impartial grand jury, not a hand picked commission. Remember, bush orginally wanted kissinger to head it up. That's almost enough evidence right there with "POW/MIAs? All accounted for!" Henry the K if ya ask me.
If you want more, just ask, I can find more but it's better to look on your own. Some things are probably more important and clueful to me then they would be to others. For example, the lower level grunt cops taken off the case, ordered off in the months preceeding the attack. That's big old giant alarm bells to me, whereas other folks might dismiss that as not that important. The reason is I know/have known cops and military (intel), they tell me this stuff happens all the time with high level political shenaningans. NORAD beiong so lame and slow with the interceptors-never happened before 9-11, they always had fighters *right* on errant big planes that had indications of trouble or hijacking. 9-11, nope, "ho humm, guess we might mosey on over in an hour or so if we find 'em". uh huh, sure.... oh ya, the "magic bullet" "ay rab tarist" passport found later, unburnt in the rubble... uh huh, sure..... The plane in pennsylvania, they crashed it into the ground....first time in history a plane that auguered in left debris 8 miles away.....
Lotsa stuff like that. any one of which, cool, an odd occurrence, a coincidence, but ALL of it? Nope, that's what we call "rodent sign".
--although most people I know in the joe user category are still using windows, most of them are now fully aware of linux and are "considering" it. I think a few more major MS exploits and more service pack fubars are gonna tip it over. It's started with just the browsers near as I can see, a LOT of people are switching to moz or opera, etc. One semi retired guy I know who absolutely has to have a dependable computer for his home based business was about to start the revolooshun over what SP2 did to his xp box. Man he was hot. He's been a fanatic about staying patched, running anti vir and firewall, all that jazz, best as he could and still got bitten hard by sp2. He ain't switched yet, but I think it's only from one web page he has to access that requires IE to function.
Mostly being a neogeezer my friends are similar or older in age, none of them that I know of are big gamers, so they have much less reason to stay "loyal" to MS than perhaps younger folks who *must* game. Besides that and office, there's little use for staying with the more insecure and buggy and more expensive platform. For most folks I'll add. there's always gonna be some random off the wall software that will only run on "Fred's OS" or whatever. I'm just speaking generally now of course.
A long time ago, ley word "long", I admired MS and thught they were an OK company, although I enjoyed the mac GUI better, but geez, after years of watching them get incredibly rich off of almost total crap,plus being such scummy bags in the market place, I am amazed they still have any market share. I don't know anyone personally who runs windows who hasn't gotten seriously hosed before with a MS install and running it day to day. I know people who just went and bought new computers thinking it HAD to be their fault and the computer was "broken" in the hardware, when all that was wrong was just a bogus OS and tons of viruses and whatnot.
Anyway, I live in Georgia, nice of you to ask. Raining like a big dawg here, musta got over 6 inches of left over huricane rain so far. I work outside so this has been a big surfin and postin day for me.
SUN AND THE CHINA STANDARD SOFTWARE COMPANY PARTNER TO ESTABLISH THE JAVA DESKTOP SYSTEM AS THE FOUNDATION FOR CHINA'S FAST GROWING IT INDUSTRY
Multi-Year Deal Kicks Off Global Campaign To Bridge the "Digital Divide"
SANTA CLARA, Calif. - November 17, 2003 - Sun Microsystems, Inc. today announced a far reaching agreement with the China Standard Software Co., Ltd. (CSSC) to establish Sun's Java Desktop System as the foundation for standard desktop development and deployment in the People's Republic of China (PRC). The CSSC is a consortium of Chinese technology companies supported by the Chinese government to produce a nationwide standard desktop software system to help bridge the digital divide among the nation's 1.3 billion citizens. The CSSC has selected Sun as its preferred technology partner to help reach this goal.
This collaboration is the first step in Sun's global campaign to partner with every nation and to help bring an open, affordable and secure desktop to users worldwide. Countries such as China, South Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Israel and India are driving programs and incentives to improve their IT infrastructures and incorporate technology into government agencies, educational systems and to domestic regions where economic barriers have limited technological growth. In an effort to accelerate these initiatives and quickly bridge this "digital divide," Sun is embarking on a program to partner with these nations through the Java Desktop System.
This is just anecdotal, but the two families I know that homeschool their kids don't have any problems with their kids "interacting" with others or anything like that. One family I know is also a very musical family, their children are not only very well home-educated (just by talking to them you can see they are several "grades" higher in awareness than most other children you meet), they are also accomplished chamber musicians and tour and are actually raking in some dough. With another family I know that homeschools, the oldest boy is big in little league and various sports, seems well spoken and surprisingly politically and socially "aware" of current events, etc, and does plenty of normal kid stuff and has lots of friends, runs his own computer, etc, and the girls help do volunteer work with their church, and the family travels internationally at least once a year to go do missionary work, so they get more "exposure" than most children I know.
I won't say thaese are typical situations, because I obviously don't know all the homeschooled kids out there, but in my circle of friends where only two families homeschool, they appear to have the better educated children and are certainly more "well rounded" than the others who just get a regular local public school education.
No network card on that ole laptop. I can get online with it though, via either a pcmcia card modem or an external serial port modem. It would have to be something I could boot into, then do an online finishing off install, FTP or whatnot, and to make it worse, over slow rural dialup so it has to be small in size. I have a feather linux CD here, it's only 64 megs, but no idea how to get it from here to there and I looked at their docs and don't see a way to do it online.
I'll look at the BSD sites though, thanks for the tip! That could work maybe.
I guess it matters when you think it happened, but I know think it happened in theearly 50's. We have had extensions of it, and the rogue criminal gangs at the top change alliances and occasionally war on each other, but all in all it's a cross partisan coup, goes beyond traditional R and D politics, although I admit that some of it is still valid. For instance, the election I worked, goldwater's campaign got more sabotaged by fellow republicans in the rockefeller wing than by any democratic effort. Some dems produced the famous daisy nuke commercial, but it was some high level R's who made dang sure it got airtime.
As to Bush, I think he's no more than an easily controlled puppet, and a very bad script reader.
US high level politics are decided and controlled internationally, this domestic stuff is political melodrama to keep the populace amused. It goes beyond even factions like "neocons" and whatever. Proof? Easy, extremely easy. 9-11 to anyone who has spent even one full hour in true independent and neutral research is an obvious inside job. The evidence is simply overwhelming. Both high level public Ds and Rs, and all sub factions therein, are perpetuating the offical government *big lie* about it. One who didn't was Paul Wellstone, who had some juice and drive, therefore dangerously effective,so he got offed. Another who didn't was Cynthia Mckinney, who lost in a diebold rigged election and was more easily demonised as too extreme, and face it, racism still exists with national politics. There's a few more now tippy toeing around the issue, but frankly, the fix is in, these guys got away with mass murder and are now engaged in the latest version of the "final solution". Bush is just a temporary goofball patsy of theirs who can appeal to the inherent red neckerson jingoism of a lot of people. See, they got it covered no matter who "wins" the election, some semi effete semi intellectual semi sophisticated urbanite and alleged "liberal" or some bombastic "nuke the ay-rabs" "greed is good" redneck psycho "conservative". That about covers 90% of the US political spectrum, so they can keep the herds fat and happy and content with "their" team and their "team leader" no matter which of their boys gets "elected" in. The other ten percent they can literally ignore. Which they do. Means nothing to them.
And the reason why this is an effective technique now is because it's been working admirably for them for decades now, and even more importantly,they know that as much as folks grumble, demonstrate, or complain, they know one very important thing-they have enough people scared off and brainwashed now that they don't have to sweat any outright physical rebellion against the mil/industrial complex junta. People in this nation have overhwelmingly proven that they will consume manure sandwhichs served by the media and government and comment on the equisite flavor, and do it over and over again, on any number of issues.
I'd like to dislike Bush more, but I honestly don't think he's very important in the grand scheme of things, same as I didn't think clinton was, even though I dsisliked him as well. I think of bush as just a tool for the juntaists. He's just a high level "useful idiot", and has an obvious thirst for violence, it's an almost open fetish you can see he has, and that's a useful trait that tyrants need in immediate underlings.
His father is much closer to the real power structure than he is, or ever will be for that matter.
The federal government has hijacked local public schools systems economically. They have to toe the line on the ridiculous social engineering dictates or they lose thousands per student in money that was first removed from the area via federal taxes, then skimmed off to support the department of education, then some of it released back to the school districts. There are probably some exceptions that run entirely on locally collected money, but I'm not personally aware of any.
So, to answer the question what might a solution be, ELIMINATE the entire federal department of education. It's not needed, and it's actually harmful, and it wastes billions in tax payers money. Just shut it down completely. Let the states and local communities and the parents themselves deal with their own children and education.
.....The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America: A Chronological Paper Trail by Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt. From the sounds of the review of this new book, it's very similar, and has a lot of the same conclusions. What makes it very important is, it is deliberate, done on purpose, and still on going. 21 reviews, 4.5 star rating, BTW.
...all the posts, how will you get an idea of what's out there? It's a catch 22,If you only look at the high numbered karma posts, you'll miss a lot. And if you have to look at all the posts in order to even assign a mod point up and down, then what's the use of having that system,when you read all the posts anyway? And if you don't read all the posts, you are assuming that others are always going to be fair or accurate, which is a silly and illogical assumption. You are letting others decide for *you* what is important/relevant/interesting or not.
Personally, I don't really like having a numbered system, to me, posts should be binary, acceptable for inclusion, or obvious spam or total crap like goatse or gnaa type trolls. Delete those, leave the rest. Anything else, leave it where it is in the thread with no numbering.
I actually *worked* the Barry Goldwater campaign, and I'd say my views on foreign policy with regards to the government have changed since 9-11. Now I am 100% convinced the government has been taken over in a stealth coup and is run by international blood profits fascists, globalist technofuedalists comes the closest to their aims and goals and actions, whereas before I thought there were still a few honest patriots left at the top levels. Now, nope, mass murderers is the politest term I have for them. 9-11 was a clear inside job, it wasn't all some dudes wearing turbans over in ashcanistan.
sidenote on spelling: Where I grew up in the midwest potatoe and tomatoe were indeed the official correct spellings. Those spellings also follow that an e on the end of a word makes the proceeding vowel long by default.
With that said, this so called debate seems to be primarily to see which candidate will cut loose with the most money as government grants to various academics who would be forced into a real job if said grants weren't available. It is no wonder then that they don't want a Libertarian candidate on the panel. The money cut loose will be similar, just where it might go will be a little different, that's all, and not much at that. We have a military/industrial complex that runs this nation, so that's where the tax money will go, that and to pay off their office drones and mercenaries.
And really, just apply occams razor to the odds of the phenomenon of two similar age white males both from a highly restrictive and priveleged background with a membership in skull and bones fraternity being the "official candidates". Anyone honestly paying attention and not approaching that fact from a partisan D or R viewpoint would tend to see the obviousness that at super high levels the "fix is in" and US presidents are picked well in advance and people are given an illusion of choice and "voting for their candidate". It's laughable. I mean, giggling guffawing laughable. I doubt we've had an honest election for 4 to 5 generations now. We have one political party, the Globalist Corporate NWO party, and their candidate always "wins".
... here's a little revisionist history for you. The nazis lost a lot of tactical battles and some space, but strategically they won. All they did was change their official name. Their top financiers remained mostly intact in various western nations, and a lot of their scientists and politicians just relocated to these same nations and like down in south and central america where they continued their policies to this day, including the current top leadership at the executive level in the USA. Their corporofacistic business practices are fully intact, a lot of their eugenics programs remain intact, their expansionist policies remain intact. They control the central banks, the big energy companies, the arms companies, the pharmecutical industries, the major media, and a variety of other manufacturing and global agriculture, etc.
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... one machine, and old toshiba satellite 115 laptop. IIRC pentium 1 (100?) with 16 megs ram and either a 300 or a 500 meg hdd, but no CD drive, just a floppy drive. It has 95b on it now, but I would *like* to put some sort of linux on it, but dang if I know how to do it. Ideally maybe something like a downloadable floppy image I can get to my FC2 machine, then use that via sneakernet to boot the toshiba and get online with, then finish an install with something linuxy-ish and useful beyond a firewall. Anyone have any recommendations? I've looked at the small distros before, don't remember seeing any that would do this, but who knows, those change all the time and I very easily could be missing what I want.
Thanks in advance and there's a use for a floppy right there maybe.
Certainly seems like a decent idea. A super computer/cluster/whatever co-op. If you started with it widely distributed, you might make enough to take it to the single building type effort. Makes more sense and seems more likely to actually be useful and make money than any number of failed dot bombs.
...XPSP2 and decide that longhorn just isn't worth it-the risk, cost, headache, bugs, etc- and switch the desktops to some linux instead of the servers back to MS.
Honestly, the only thing I can see coming with MS is for them to go completely on the offensive with patents and copyright lawsuits and hope to scare and bully and maybe even legislate their way to staying topdog. I don't see them being able to do it on just quality/price and a normal market scene for much longer. The only people left who aren't considering Linux are very casuasl and unsophisticated home users, anyone more technologically savvy above that level is at least thinking about linux now. At some time MS will feel threatened enough to start using their portfolios very agressively, think SCO type action times 1,000. They could carve out a few billion just to start the lawsuits and not break sweat. Then they could start lobbying. We have the easiest bribed legislature and executive branch and probably judges evah now. This is the most high level "consultant fee" friendly government I can remember going way back. Those who already have the coin to spread around are not hesitating to "share the wealth" with those charged with maintaining what passes for "law" nowadays.
...it's an exact example. Patenting arrangments of code is no different than patenting arrangements of "music code" or "human speech language code", like in any normal novel. It makes as much sense to give a patent for any piece of software code as it would to patent a song or a book, in other words, none.
Anyone, even a politician, should be able to see this. It takes nothing away from the writer/coder/arranger, they all are works of creativity. Copyright=yes, patents=no way.
That muppet like show "Dinosaurs" was hilarious, they had a Mr. Wizard clone called "Mr. Lizard" IIRC. He was always wasting his kid assistants with bad science going even worse--> BOOM! "Oh well, guess we need ~another~ Billy!"
A lot of people I know are actually quite willing to be content with a little less rather than screw their nerighbors in business. I know greed is a relative term, but some people take that into consideration when conducting their lives. Maybe it's not "saving the world" but it could be classified as "not being a dickhead every chance you get in order to make a few more dollars".
Of course, I know some people who don't care either, as long as they get theirs, they could care less about other people. Our business headlines are freequetly filled with those types. I tend to not do business or associate with those sorts of people at any income level for very long if I find out they are like that.
Just what you want out of life I guess, and what your priorities are.
--the browser component, has the animated images turn on or off or adjust times directly in easy for joe user to find preferences where it should be. I don't know why it isn't in firefox, have to ask them boys about that. I want a browser and email and editor, so I run the suite, and will continue to do so as long as mozilla keeps offering it. I always preferred the full netscape communicator over the stand alone navigator anyway... The chat client in Mozilla, ehh, tried it, I still prefer x-chat though, although I'll retry it with every new release, maybe it will get better.
It's not even close to a free market, and if you insist on calling it that, I'll ask for your detailed proof of it....I see a completely unfree market, not only totally unfree but massively unfair as well, except for a ferw elite connected ones. A free market would mean at a minimum either zero tariffs or exact equal tariffs on import and export, both ways, on all goods and services. It doesn't exist in reality, so don't insist it does in some far off futre that hasn't arrived yet. A free market would have exactly the same regulations and workplace laws, either zero, or the same. And so on.
Actually, I'm a little older than most folks here on slashdot and I started "noticing it" and lobbying against globalisation in the early 70's, all the way to face to faces with congress people. And everything myself and many others warned about has happened. And it will continue to get worse and the really big losers are the US middle class. Some folks are actually sophisticated enough to "notice" the difference between produced wealth and artifically produced credit, and we can point it out. Fort example,no matter how many times the shills call 30 year mortgages (or now interrst only mortgages) better than the ten year ones I remember, it's still a worse deal for the consumer long term. Same with big ticket items like cars. Some of us have noticed that day to day figures and realites don't jibe with what we were promised and told about 25-30 years ago. All we have seen is crappier products on the shelves, an artifically inflated dollar that gives people the illusion they have more but gets them less in the long run because of the higher credit that has been massively pushed on people, and a steady erosion of benefits and pensions, with the projections for them to continually keep getting worse. I've seen first hand and personal what happens to small communities when the largest local employer offshores (leaving upper management intact of course). No, they aren't "better off". I've also been effected by the currently illegal immigrant invasion which is tolerated and encouraged by the billionaires.
It's not a recent phenomenon or interest of mine, and I've been pretty consistent on it. Giving corporate tax breaks to companies to outsource is just wrong. Trading without a quid pro quo tariff structure is wrong. Imposing a million detailed laws and regulations on people, then telling them they have to compete with an area/government that has little or no such laws is wrong.
And besides that, I'm a patriot and nationalist, I think it's a function of government to look out for the most people in it's nation, not the top 1% wealthiest internationalists who happen to have a home and HQ inside the US but are really internationalists and loyal only to their own personal profits at the expense of their neighbors. That's a morals and ethics issue there, so if you disagree we'll have to leave it at that, it's not exactly quantifiable in terms of only dollars.
sorry, I didn't save the link, but I got those from a research paper that was showing that despite offical chinese minimum wage (at the time the paper was written, 2 years ago), the wage was 31 cents/hr, a lot of workers in heavily industrialised areas were in fact working for much less than that and with very long hours per day. I probably should have posted the link as well, sorry, I'll do better next time.
My point was, there's no way to compete in the US against that. My second and more important point is, I can distinctly remember when almost all articles bought at any local store were in fact made in the USA, and they were both affordable, the quality was pretty fair,and the consequences of that were that many more USA workers had decent jobs and they were easier to find. As globalisation has continued, we have garnered high trade imbalances (it hasn't even stayed equal, it's gotten terribly skewed *not* in our favor, no one can dispute this), the dollar is steadily dropping in international worth, it is not rising, we have much higher incidences of personal and corporate bankruptcy, debt compared to savings is at record highs, we've swapped actual home ownership for perpetual home re and re re financing (basically renting forever at much higher cost) and pension systems in particular (private pensions, social security, government pensions) have gotten to the point that even the ones who promoted globalisation years ago are sounding the alarm, alan greenspan being one of them just last week in fact. Not sure internationally, but inside the US it's headed for a pretty big collapse, a cascading default situation. And walmart is a big part of the problem all by themselves. I think it's exactly telling they are constanly pushing commercials about walmart on TV that aren't selling anything but the concept of walmart being "american". Not "such and such on sale today at walmart", nope, these I've seen are pure political propoganda commercials. They wouldn't need to do that if they were in fact "all american"as people would see it. Millions see they are NOT, walmart is reacting to it, but they cann't dispute the facts. You simply cannot compare a relatively low retail wage and in-country retail job with a wealth producing manufacturing wage, and one where the currency stays inside the border where it gets spent and re spent and re spent again. You cannot ignore the huge amounts of money that are permanently transferrred out of the country, that's this trade deficit thing. Every year, we have a constant and growing trade imbalance not in the US favor. If globalisation and walmart itis worked, we wouldn't be seeing that. It exists because we are swapping temporary huge gains for a small subset of the population in exchange for again, temportarily cheaper consumer prices and lower quality articles. Eventually the system will eat itself as even the cheapest of the articles will be non affordable as there won't be enough people working with enough surplus income to maintain the growth figures needed to keep building walmarts. In my opinion we've already crossed that point and are existing on massive national credit now and not in any sort of produced wealth normal trading.
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probably the best way to look at it is the unanswered questions angles, and also the string of amazing coincidences angle. There's also the "story changes" various angles, like exactly *what* was NORAD doing that day, and what's up with running a drill about running hijacked planes into buildings on 9-11? And all the lower level FBI agents who got ordered off the case, and are now in lawsuits against the government. And people being given "tips" to not show up for work at the towers that day.
There's a variety of sites out there now that have all sorts of this information. I got started looking into it (I was suspicious the next day when they announced they "knew" who did it, makes ya wonder if this was so why didn't they stop them), over to Alex Jone's site at infowars.com.(exact url http://infowars.com/sept11_archive.htm) The video and still evidence (911inplanesite.com) is telling (and not telling) as well, especially the closeups of the planes that hit the WTC towers (no passenger windows evident, eyewitnesses who claim they also saw no windows, etc), and the amazing lack of damage to the front of the pentagon where allegedly this huge airliner hit. As in unburnt grass where thousands of gallons of jet fuel would have been splashed and burnt. And WTC building 7...uhhh..nothing hit it. It still fell down exactly like a controlled demolition would have done it, and the actual owner of the place is quoted on audio as saying "they made a decision to pull it".
Lotsa stuff. Not sure where you have looked, but those are two places to start, and google will give you tons more. I have the video "9-11, road to tyranny" most excellent, free for copying and sharing and I know it's on the P2P networks. tyhat's a good one, too.
Her's a generic overview that was easy to find as well: http://rense.com/general32/25.htm
--basically, there's just too much evidence out there. There's way more than what is needed for an impartial grand jury, not a hand picked commission. Remember, bush orginally wanted kissinger to head it up. That's almost enough evidence right there with "POW/MIAs? All accounted for!" Henry the K if ya ask me.
If you want more, just ask, I can find more but it's better to look on your own. Some things are probably more important and clueful to me then they would be to others. For example, the lower level grunt cops taken off the case, ordered off in the months preceeding the attack. That's big old giant alarm bells to me, whereas other folks might dismiss that as not that important. The reason is I know/have known cops and military (intel), they tell me this stuff happens all the time with high level political shenaningans. NORAD beiong so lame and slow with the interceptors-never happened before 9-11, they always had fighters *right* on errant big planes that had indications of trouble or hijacking. 9-11, nope, "ho humm, guess we might mosey on over in an hour or so if we find 'em". uh huh, sure.... oh ya, the "magic bullet" "ay rab tarist" passport found later, unburnt in the rubble... uh huh, sure..... The plane in pennsylvania, they crashed it into the ground....first time in history a plane that auguered in left debris 8 miles away.....
Lotsa stuff like that. any one of which, cool, an odd occurrence, a coincidence, but ALL of it? Nope, that's what we call "rodent sign".
anyway, if you want more just ask, no probs.
--although most people I know in the joe user category are still using windows, most of them are now fully aware of linux and are "considering" it. I think a few more major MS exploits and more service pack fubars are gonna tip it over. It's started with just the browsers near as I can see, a LOT of people are switching to moz or opera, etc. One semi retired guy I know who absolutely has to have a dependable computer for his home based business was about to start the revolooshun over what SP2 did to his xp box. Man he was hot. He's been a fanatic about staying patched, running anti vir and firewall, all that jazz, best as he could and still got bitten hard by sp2. He ain't switched yet, but I think it's only from one web page he has to access that requires IE to function.
Mostly being a neogeezer my friends are similar or older in age, none of them that I know of are big gamers, so they have much less reason to stay "loyal" to MS than perhaps younger folks who *must* game. Besides that and office, there's little use for staying with the more insecure and buggy and more expensive platform. For most folks I'll add. there's always gonna be some random off the wall software that will only run on "Fred's OS" or whatever. I'm just speaking generally now of course.
A long time ago, ley word "long", I admired MS and thught they were an OK company, although I enjoyed the mac GUI better, but geez, after years of watching them get incredibly rich off of almost total crap,plus being such scummy bags in the market place, I am amazed they still have any market share. I don't know anyone personally who runs windows who hasn't gotten seriously hosed before with a MS install and running it day to day. I know people who just went and bought new computers thinking it HAD to be their fault and the computer was "broken" in the hardware, when all that was wrong was just a bogus OS and tons of viruses and whatnot.
Anyway, I live in Georgia, nice of you to ask. Raining like a big dawg here, musta got over 6 inches of left over huricane rain so far. I work outside so this has been a big surfin and postin day for me.
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SUN AND THE CHINA STANDARD SOFTWARE COMPANY PARTNER TO ESTABLISH THE JAVA DESKTOP SYSTEM AS THE FOUNDATION FOR CHINA'S FAST GROWING IT INDUSTRY
Multi-Year Deal Kicks Off Global Campaign To Bridge the "Digital Divide"
SANTA CLARA, Calif. - November 17, 2003 - Sun Microsystems, Inc. today announced a far reaching agreement with the China Standard Software Co., Ltd. (CSSC) to establish Sun's Java Desktop System as the foundation for standard desktop development and deployment in the People's Republic of China (PRC). The CSSC is a consortium of Chinese technology companies supported by the Chinese government to produce a nationwide standard desktop software system to help bridge the digital divide among the nation's 1.3 billion citizens. The CSSC has selected Sun as its preferred technology partner to help reach this goal.
This collaboration is the first step in Sun's global campaign to partner with every nation and to help bring an open, affordable and secure desktop to users worldwide. Countries such as China, South Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Israel and India are driving programs and incentives to improve their IT infrastructures and incorporate technology into government agencies, educational systems and to domestic regions where economic barriers have limited technological growth. In an effort to accelerate these initiatives and quickly bridge this "digital divide," Sun is embarking on a program to partner with these nations through the Java Desktop System.
This is just anecdotal, but the two families I know that homeschool their kids don't have any problems with their kids "interacting" with others or anything like that. One family I know is also a very musical family, their children are not only very well home-educated (just by talking to them you can see they are several "grades" higher in awareness than most other children you meet), they are also accomplished chamber musicians and tour and are actually raking in some dough. With another family I know that homeschools, the oldest boy is big in little league and various sports, seems well spoken and surprisingly politically and socially "aware" of current events, etc, and does plenty of normal kid stuff and has lots of friends, runs his own computer, etc, and the girls help do volunteer work with their church, and the family travels internationally at least once a year to go do missionary work, so they get more "exposure" than most children I know.
I won't say thaese are typical situations, because I obviously don't know all the homeschooled kids out there, but in my circle of friends where only two families homeschool, they appear to have the better educated children and are certainly more "well rounded" than the others who just get a regular local public school education.
No network card on that ole laptop. I can get online with it though, via either a pcmcia card modem or an external serial port modem. It would have to be something I could boot into, then do an online finishing off install, FTP or whatnot, and to make it worse, over slow rural dialup so it has to be small in size. I have a feather linux CD here, it's only 64 megs, but no idea how to get it from here to there and I looked at their docs and don't see a way to do it online.
I'll look at the BSD sites though, thanks for the tip! That could work maybe.
I guess it matters when you think it happened, but I know think it happened in theearly 50's. We have had extensions of it, and the rogue criminal gangs at the top change alliances and occasionally war on each other, but all in all it's a cross partisan coup, goes beyond traditional R and D politics, although I admit that some of it is still valid. For instance, the election I worked, goldwater's campaign got more sabotaged by fellow republicans in the rockefeller wing than by any democratic effort. Some dems produced the famous daisy nuke commercial, but it was some high level R's who made dang sure it got airtime.
As to Bush, I think he's no more than an easily controlled puppet, and a very bad script reader.
US high level politics are decided and controlled internationally, this domestic stuff is political melodrama to keep the populace amused. It goes beyond even factions like "neocons" and whatever. Proof? Easy, extremely easy. 9-11 to anyone who has spent even one full hour in true independent and neutral research is an obvious inside job. The evidence is simply overwhelming. Both high level public Ds and Rs, and all sub factions therein, are perpetuating the offical government *big lie* about it. One who didn't was Paul Wellstone, who had some juice and drive, therefore dangerously effective,so he got offed. Another who didn't was Cynthia Mckinney, who lost in a diebold rigged election and was more easily demonised as too extreme, and face it, racism still exists with national politics. There's a few more now tippy toeing around the issue, but frankly, the fix is in, these guys got away with mass murder and are now engaged in the latest version of the "final solution". Bush is just a temporary goofball patsy of theirs who can appeal to the inherent red neckerson jingoism of a lot of people. See, they got it covered no matter who "wins" the election, some semi effete semi intellectual semi sophisticated urbanite and alleged "liberal" or some bombastic "nuke the ay-rabs" "greed is good" redneck psycho "conservative". That about covers 90% of the US political spectrum, so they can keep the herds fat and happy and content with "their" team and their "team leader" no matter which of their boys gets "elected" in. The other ten percent they can literally ignore. Which they do. Means nothing to them.
And the reason why this is an effective technique now is because it's been working admirably for them for decades now, and even more importantly,they know that as much as folks grumble, demonstrate, or complain, they know one very important thing-they have enough people scared off and brainwashed now that they don't have to sweat any outright physical rebellion against the mil/industrial complex junta. People in this nation have overhwelmingly proven that they will consume manure sandwhichs served by the media and government and comment on the equisite flavor, and do it over and over again, on any number of issues.
I'd like to dislike Bush more, but I honestly don't think he's very important in the grand scheme of things, same as I didn't think clinton was, even though I dsisliked him as well. I think of bush as just a tool for the juntaists. He's just a high level "useful idiot", and has an obvious thirst for violence, it's an almost open fetish you can see he has, and that's a useful trait that tyrants need in immediate underlings.
His father is much closer to the real power structure than he is, or ever will be for that matter.
The federal government has hijacked local public schools systems economically. They have to toe the line on the ridiculous social engineering dictates or they lose thousands per student in money that was first removed from the area via federal taxes, then skimmed off to support the department of education, then some of it released back to the school districts. There are probably some exceptions that run entirely on locally collected money, but I'm not personally aware of any.
So, to answer the question what might a solution be, ELIMINATE the entire federal department of education. It's not needed, and it's actually harmful, and it wastes billions in tax payers money. Just shut it down completely. Let the states and local communities and the parents themselves deal with their own children and education.
.....The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America: A Chronological Paper Trail
by Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt. From the sounds of the review of this new book, it's very similar, and has a lot of the same conclusions. What makes it very important is, it is deliberate, done on purpose, and still on going. 21 reviews, 4.5 star rating, BTW.
...be including any windows media support, in particular the ability to play any of the latest .asf files?
...all the posts, how will you get an idea of what's out there? It's a catch 22,If you only look at the high numbered karma posts, you'll miss a lot. And if you have to look at all the posts in order to even assign a mod point up and down, then what's the use of having that system,when you read all the posts anyway? And if you don't read all the posts, you are assuming that others are always going to be fair or accurate, which is a silly and illogical assumption. You are letting others decide for *you* what is important/relevant/interesting or not.
Personally, I don't really like having a numbered system, to me, posts should be binary, acceptable for inclusion, or obvious spam or total crap like goatse or gnaa type trolls. Delete those, leave the rest. Anything else, leave it where it is in the thread with no numbering.
I actually *worked* the Barry Goldwater campaign, and I'd say my views on foreign policy with regards to the government have changed since 9-11. Now I am 100% convinced the government has been taken over in a stealth coup and is run by international blood profits fascists, globalist technofuedalists comes the closest to their aims and goals and actions, whereas before I thought there were still a few honest patriots left at the top levels. Now, nope, mass murderers is the politest term I have for them. 9-11 was a clear inside job, it wasn't all some dudes wearing turbans over in ashcanistan.
I really can't take credit or claim any creativity. It's just boring old data.
Here's just one you can start with if you are interested:
http://hnn.us/articles/1810.html
sidenote on spelling: Where I grew up in the midwest potatoe and tomatoe were indeed the official correct spellings. Those spellings also follow that an e on the end of a word makes the proceeding vowel long by default.
With that said, this so called debate seems to be primarily to see which candidate will cut loose with the most money as government grants to various academics who would be forced into a real job if said grants weren't available. It is no wonder then that they don't want a Libertarian candidate on the panel. The money cut loose will be similar, just where it might go will be a little different, that's all, and not much at that. We have a military/industrial complex that runs this nation, so that's where the tax money will go, that and to pay off their office drones and mercenaries.
And really, just apply occams razor to the odds of the phenomenon of two similar age white males both from a highly restrictive and priveleged background with a membership in skull and bones fraternity being the "official candidates". Anyone honestly paying attention and not approaching that fact from a partisan D or R viewpoint would tend to see the obviousness that at super high levels the "fix is in" and US presidents are picked well in advance and people are given an illusion of choice and "voting for their candidate". It's laughable. I mean, giggling guffawing laughable. I doubt we've had an honest election for 4 to 5 generations now. We have one political party, the Globalist Corporate NWO party, and their candidate always "wins".
... here's a little revisionist history for you. The nazis lost a lot of tactical battles and some space, but strategically they won. All they did was change their official name. Their top financiers remained mostly intact in various western nations, and a lot of their scientists and politicians just relocated to these same nations and like down in south and central america where they continued their policies to this day, including the current top leadership at the executive level in the USA. Their corporofacistic business practices are fully intact, a lot of their eugenics programs remain intact, their expansionist policies remain intact. They control the central banks, the big energy companies, the arms companies, the pharmecutical industries, the major media, and a variety of other manufacturing and global agriculture, etc.
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... one machine, and old toshiba satellite 115 laptop. IIRC pentium 1 (100?) with 16 megs ram and either a 300 or a 500 meg hdd, but no CD drive, just a floppy drive. It has 95b on it now, but I would *like* to put some sort of linux on it, but dang if I know how to do it. Ideally maybe something like a downloadable floppy image I can get to my FC2 machine, then use that via sneakernet to boot the toshiba and get online with, then finish an install with something linuxy-ish and useful beyond a firewall. Anyone have any recommendations? I've looked at the small distros before, don't remember seeing any that would do this, but who knows, those change all the time and I very easily could be missing what I want.
Thanks in advance and there's a use for a floppy right there maybe.
Certainly seems like a decent idea. A super computer/cluster/whatever co-op. If you started with it widely distributed, you might make enough to take it to the single building type effort. Makes more sense and seems more likely to actually be useful and make money than any number of failed dot bombs.
...XPSP2 and decide that longhorn just isn't worth it-the risk, cost, headache, bugs, etc- and switch the desktops to some linux instead of the servers back to MS.
Honestly, the only thing I can see coming with MS is for them to go completely on the offensive with patents and copyright lawsuits and hope to scare and bully and maybe even legislate their way to staying topdog. I don't see them being able to do it on just quality/price and a normal market scene for much longer. The only people left who aren't considering Linux are very casuasl and unsophisticated home users, anyone more technologically savvy above that level is at least thinking about linux now. At some time MS will feel threatened enough to start using their portfolios very agressively, think SCO type action times 1,000. They could carve out a few billion just to start the lawsuits and not break sweat. Then they could start lobbying. We have the easiest bribed legislature and executive branch and probably judges evah now. This is the most high level "consultant fee" friendly government I can remember going way back. Those who already have the coin to spread around are not hesitating to "share the wealth" with those charged with maintaining what passes for "law" nowadays.
--thanks, couldn't remember if it was billy or timmy. Funny none the less. That whole show was a scream. The "Wesayso" corporation.. hahahahahaha
...it's an exact example. Patenting arrangments of code is no different than patenting arrangements of "music code" or "human speech language code", like in any normal novel. It makes as much sense to give a patent for any piece of software code as it would to patent a song or a book, in other words, none.
Anyone, even a politician, should be able to see this. It takes nothing away from the writer/coder/arranger, they all are works of creativity. Copyright=yes, patents=no way.
That muppet like show "Dinosaurs" was hilarious, they had a Mr. Wizard clone called "Mr. Lizard" IIRC. He was always wasting his kid assistants with bad science going even worse--> BOOM! "Oh well, guess we need ~another~ Billy!"
A lot of people I know are actually quite willing to be content with a little less rather than screw their nerighbors in business. I know greed is a relative term, but some people take that into consideration when conducting their lives. Maybe it's not "saving the world" but it could be classified as "not being a dickhead every chance you get in order to make a few more dollars".
Of course, I know some people who don't care either, as long as they get theirs, they could care less about other people. Our business headlines are freequetly filled with those types. I tend to not do business or associate with those sorts of people at any income level for very long if I find out they are like that.
Just what you want out of life I guess, and what your priorities are.
--the browser component, has the animated images turn on or off or adjust times directly in easy for joe user to find preferences where it should be. I don't know why it isn't in firefox, have to ask them boys about that. I want a browser and email and editor, so I run the suite, and will continue to do so as long as mozilla keeps offering it. I always preferred the full netscape communicator over the stand alone navigator anyway... The chat client in Mozilla, ehh, tried it, I still prefer x-chat though, although I'll retry it with every new release, maybe it will get better.
It's not even close to a free market, and if you insist on calling it that, I'll ask for your detailed proof of it....I see a completely unfree market, not only totally unfree but massively unfair as well, except for a ferw elite connected ones. A free market would mean at a minimum either zero tariffs or exact equal tariffs on import and export, both ways, on all goods and services. It doesn't exist in reality, so don't insist it does in some far off futre that hasn't arrived yet. A free market would have exactly the same regulations and workplace laws, either zero, or the same. And so on.
Actually, I'm a little older than most folks here on slashdot and I started "noticing it" and lobbying against globalisation in the early 70's, all the way to face to faces with congress people. And everything myself and many others warned about has happened. And it will continue to get worse and the really big losers are the US middle class. Some folks are actually sophisticated enough to "notice" the difference between produced wealth and artifically produced credit, and we can point it out. Fort example,no matter how many times the shills call 30 year mortgages (or now interrst only mortgages) better than the ten year ones I remember, it's still a worse deal for the consumer long term. Same with big ticket items like cars. Some of us have noticed that day to day figures and realites don't jibe with what we were promised and told about 25-30 years ago. All we have seen is crappier products on the shelves, an artifically inflated dollar that gives people the illusion they have more but gets them less in the long run because of the higher credit that has been massively pushed on people, and a steady erosion of benefits and pensions, with the projections for them to continually keep getting worse. I've seen first hand and personal what happens to small communities when the largest local employer offshores (leaving upper management intact of course). No, they aren't "better off". I've also been effected by the currently illegal immigrant invasion which is tolerated and encouraged by the billionaires.
It's not a recent phenomenon or interest of mine, and I've been pretty consistent on it. Giving corporate tax breaks to companies to outsource is just wrong. Trading without a quid pro quo tariff structure is wrong. Imposing a million detailed laws and regulations on people, then telling them they have to compete with an area/government that has little or no such laws is wrong.
And besides that, I'm a patriot and nationalist, I think it's a function of government to look out for the most people in it's nation, not the top 1% wealthiest internationalists who happen to have a home and HQ inside the US but are really internationalists and loyal only to their own personal profits at the expense of their neighbors. That's a morals and ethics issue there, so if you disagree we'll have to leave it at that, it's not exactly quantifiable in terms of only dollars.
sorry, I didn't save the link, but I got those from a research paper that was showing that despite offical chinese minimum wage (at the time the paper was written, 2 years ago), the wage was 31 cents/hr, a lot of workers in heavily industrialised areas were in fact working for much less than that and with very long hours per day. I probably should have posted the link as well, sorry, I'll do better next time.
My point was, there's no way to compete in the US against that. My second and more important point is, I can distinctly remember when almost all articles bought at any local store were in fact made in the USA, and they were both affordable, the quality was pretty fair,and the consequences of that were that many more USA workers had decent jobs and they were easier to find. As globalisation has continued, we have garnered high trade imbalances (it hasn't even stayed equal, it's gotten terribly skewed *not* in our favor, no one can dispute this), the dollar is steadily dropping in international worth, it is not rising, we have much higher incidences of personal and corporate bankruptcy, debt compared to savings is at record highs, we've swapped actual home ownership for perpetual home re and re re financing (basically renting forever at much higher cost) and pension systems in particular (private pensions, social security, government pensions) have gotten to the point that even the ones who promoted globalisation years ago are sounding the alarm, alan greenspan being one of them just last week in fact. Not sure internationally, but inside the US it's headed for a pretty big collapse, a cascading default situation. And walmart is a big part of the problem all by themselves. I think it's exactly telling they are constanly pushing commercials about walmart on TV that aren't selling anything but the concept of walmart being "american". Not "such and such on sale today at walmart", nope, these I've seen are pure political propoganda commercials. They wouldn't need to do that if they were in fact "all american"as people would see it. Millions see they are NOT, walmart is reacting to it, but they cann't dispute the facts. You simply cannot compare a relatively low retail wage and in-country retail job with a wealth producing manufacturing wage, and one where the currency stays inside the border where it gets spent and re spent and re spent again. You cannot ignore the huge amounts of money that are permanently transferrred out of the country, that's this trade deficit thing. Every year, we have a constant and growing trade imbalance not in the US favor. If globalisation and walmart itis worked, we wouldn't be seeing that. It exists because we are swapping temporary huge gains for a small subset of the population in exchange for again, temportarily cheaper consumer prices and lower quality articles. Eventually the system will eat itself as even the cheapest of the articles will be non affordable as there won't be enough people working with enough surplus income to maintain the growth figures needed to keep building walmarts. In my opinion we've already crossed that point and are existing on massive national credit now and not in any sort of produced wealth normal trading.