although it is not unique in being a news and commentary site, it is a very large site, with discussions being the primary resource here. That's the difference, you can go read news all over the net, but some people wish to have discussions about it. Given that thousands of news articles appear daily across the WWW, the editors can only fit so many into the pages and still have enough of a base to handle the discussions adequately. If all you want to do is read news, why bother coming here and posting a complaint? Shouldn't you be out reading more news someplace else?
Let me see, parents who care enough about their kids to devote significant amounts of their time and a lot of effort into educating their children. And this is something to laugh about?
The home schooled children I have met are without exception well educated and interesting people. It is more common than not to see them enter college at very young ages. I have yet to meet any who aren't much more advanced than the typical child of similar age in a public school system.
Why don't you troll somewhere else, and pick on an adult as well?
I'm a neogeezer and I think the same exact way as you do, but with a twist! I try to avoid cops, because they are all 20 year old skinhead punks(or look and act like it to me) and they think I am up to no good!
I have never seen GTA, but I read someplace-and I am willing to be corrected on it of course if I am wrong-that in one of the scenes of play, the "heros" or whomever these illusionary characters are supposed to represent to the human players, rape a prostitute then kill her aftwards. Is this correct? If so,I am wondering, this is supposed to be "entertaining" and "really cool" and "relieve stress" somehow?
I think people are being more than a little coy with their reactions to imagery-video and sound, including subsonics designed to garner an emotional response- manipulations,leading to conditioining, even brainwashing to use a more commonly understood term for all of the above, and thinking they are "immune" to it, because they are...fill in the blank, "leet" will suffice.
Nothing is further from the truth, all humans are susceptable to it, in some form or another..
Advertising works. Brainwashing works. Industry (and governments and cults for that matter) would not drop a hundred billion a year on advertising-brainwashing, using images and sounds to garner a reaction- if it didn't work. On another level, the armed forces would not do what they do in boot camp if it didn't work. They would not now be developing videogames to add to that brainwashing effort if they thought or knew it didn't work.
Conditioning conditions, that's what it is designed to do, it gets people to accept what they normally wouldn't be inclined to accept, to one degree or another,and especially if they can be changed quickly to become *enthusiastic* about it, to give them a "reward" somehow,so they become addicted to it even faster, and therefore become conditioned or brainwashed faster.
Here's another example that should be obvious. The mass broadcast media works in getting people to accept the notion that "they can't change government" or "you can't fight city hall" and "what you gonna do?" such ideas and strongly held beliefs, to just year in and out accept their version of the lesser but still evil, and put up with it. They get that way primarily from first being brainwashed into it in public schools when they are very young and impressionable, and then a lifetime of watching and being conditioned by what they are told in the 6 o clock news, as "real",and everything else-no matter the data-is "tin foil hat conspiracy theory". That is an example of a form of mass conditioning done through electronic images and sounds primarily, and it works very, very well.
To think anything as obviously addictive as violent video games has *no* long term harmful affect,or does not lead to a certain amount of conditioning or acceptance, to me, is naieve. The level is a variable, but not that it happens.
This is a pretty sensitive subject here on slashdot,and it is about as close to an automatic kneejerk reaction as you can get to any subject, even beyond automatic SCO loathing. As much as our society as a whole does games, here it has to be a much higher percentage generally speaking, so I would say there would be immediate almost total mass denial of any of the negative aspects to violent video games. I knew that before I went past the headline. And, looking at the thread, it's mostly true, "games" where people are killed and tortured are "healthy" for you it is claimed.
uh huh, sure they are.
I'll have to fall in the distinct minority here on slashdot when it comes to video games, and in particular the violent ones. I do not find them, or even the concept of them, "healthy". At best on I am neutral on some, but the violent ones? No, I've seen adults addicted to them, it is not pretty nor healthy. As expected, if you as a friend drop a hint they just might be addicted, they won't admit it either.
Of course, I also have never enjoyed slasher movies, which are just as popular I gather in society. I've seen a few, way in the past, just enough to think to myself, "this is the *real* pornography that is harmful to people" and to stop lookin
I would imagine there are a lot of people (like me) who had *no idea* what this is or what it is for. Here is the one paragraph definition of it FTA:
"Maven defines itself as a project-management and project-comprehension tool. Its project object model (POM) controls the development and management of a project. The POM controls builds, document creation, site publication and distribution publication and can be stored in an XML file. Maven also provides a set of tools to enable developers to automatically generate a number of critical items, such as source metrics; mailing, developer and dependency lists; software development process documentation; change logs based directly on source repository; and source cross-references."
In other words, it looks like a cross between the head cheese coding despot on any development project mailinglist and an automated webmaster thingee.... a management worker bot whatever.. it's a....
...article and anniversary with the NASA (and ansariX-prise) challenges in the article above. Make it something like 10 billion or some big number for the first permanent moon base. Put a donation check off on the income tax instead of the presidential election checkoff, fund the prize that way. Let's get the show on the road, enough's enough with the fooling around. We are humans, we explore, that's what we do, so let's do it!
How many of the chinese immigrants there are sleeper agents of the PLA?
It's not only civilian crime you have to worry about. It wouldn't take half a dozen dedicated agents/assymetrical warfare types to cause a tremendous amount of havoc at any time *they* pick in most cities. The US and Canadian lack of serious immigration oversight and restrictions will destroy both those nations sometime in the future. Europe can look out for itself with their governments and immigration laws and policies, I am primarily interested in north america above the mexican border, which has been decimated in the last decade from un restricted illegal immigration and too much legal immigration. Enoughs enough, if all those other places had such hot cultures, then the people there wouldn't be leaving, and they would have developed economies that wouldn't make them want to leave their home countries. Diluting the US and Canada will accomplish nothing more than dilution, and it's obvious it's hurtting the middle classes in both those nations. Way back in the 1800's when we still had a very small population and a lot of free land and opportunity, sure, we needed a lot of immigration, we could absorb it and it was welcomed, that was then, this is now, all the land, every single square inch of it, is spoken for, nothing is free, we've expanded coast to coast, many areas now are already completely maxed out with infrastructure costs, water resources, etc, so it's time to stop the massive transference of human populations from second and third world places to the last remnants of the first world. Let those other nations fix their own problems, they don't need to be exporting their problems, and the globalists need to be stopped on exporting still useful and necessary jobs.
I think most people in the US and Canada are too naieve. They think wars are only things that happen overseas on television, and someplace carved in stone is a planetary rule that it can't happen to them. And they also still seem to think that the major politicians and partys we have are working "for the people" instead of "working for the globalist transnationals" which is closer to reality.
And intel services? HA1!11 Phooie! There's a story running on Drudge right now about an entire brand new type of Chinese submarine that slipped past them guys. They didn't even see it. It got launched already.
If they can't even pick up on an entire new submarine, don't count on them to see and stop nation-state sleeper agents, or to stop "independent" terrorist actions, or to even stop rogue elements from inside the governments themselves from doing similar actions.
I understand that. I mentioned there are two versions, one for business and one for hobbiests. You use the right one for the right job (or non job in my case, just a free OS). Seeing as how I'm not a business, I went for the one that suits my needs, which aren't as critical as for a business. I expect the version I use to be betaware, that's the whole idea, that's the version that gets both new features and also you expect more bugs. As they get worked out, the knowledge gets applied to the commercial product, which you can buy boxed set, or if you don't mind a kit form and some assembly required, I think you can still get FTP piece by piece. And I know there's cheaper whitebox versions as well from third parties.
That's true, but the civilian humans on the planet lost the trans sonic concorde as a "ride", with no replacement for it in the near future. I never rode on it, but LadyZ here, the retired skygoddess, did a few times, she said it was *neat*.
Heck, what am I saying, I just wish my 100+ MPG moped was still running......:(
..which means there used to be a lot of oxygen there. There are still remnants of water, some evidence anyway. At one time it was nicer there, with a better atmosphere.
I think there's still microbial life there, and higher forms used to exist. Just a feeling, no other decent evidence.
Apple doesn't have to beat them, as they wouldn't be in the chip exporting business and trying to keep a buncha customers happy with varying demands. They would have to make what they need for internal use, and that's it.
And to fund the effort? The traditional way perhaps, like every other company does it. They use a combination of cash in hand and maybe do another stock deal of some form. It would shake the industry up a little, and so what to that. If they announced their intentions to start their own chip building, well, a lot of stock would get traded,both ways, and it would be in the financial interests of people already using and profitting from apple products to help out. They are a small company, but they have decent credibility,and they pull off and profit from stuff that is almost universally decried at first by most pundits, proving they DO have something on the ball. Look at something as simple as a portable music player and a way to get the music in those players and make money from it. Many previous tried, with varying degrees of success and non success, but when they did it, it worked, they proved the detractors wrong, as they usually do. They are a quite good blend of design, engineering and marketing concepts company overall, a lot better than most, because they really understand vertical integration, and adding chip fabbing is an obvious point where they haven't vertically integrated yet. It's expensive and hard to do, but they already have a guaranteed 100% market for that theoretical new product, so that part is covered, it's not like they would be attempting that new enterprise in an uncertainty void of sales.
I just don't get it. With fedora, I'm getting the same deal I was getting with the distro when it had redhat slapped on the label. I get a full OS, the price is right, in my case a few bucks plus shipping, and free security and enhancement updates. When I am stuck on something I go look on google. When I had a boxed set with RH on the label, it cost me 60 clams, and I got free security and enhancement updates. The only difference is I got some redhat stickers and a dead trees version of the manual. When I got stuck on something back then I went and looked on google. I have a better distro with more stuff than two years ago, and it costs me less, so I should be mad at redhat and..huh?
You make money from free software primarily by using that software in your other, *real* business, building/selling/servicing widgets.
Redhat got two versions,one sorta free kinda,and one really really free,and it actually costs them to provide it. One for businesses who are theoretically making enough money using computers somehow to be able to pay a fee for the "pro-commercial" version, and another one for hobbiests and enthusiasts who agree to help out and help develop and look for bugs, etc. Seems reasonable to me.
I don't see what the big negative deal is really. Either version works, the pro version has a different and more tweaked server and some other doo-dads obviously, but you get more support. The really free version has everything you need as well, just somewhat different, I mean apache is apache and whatnot. The money has to come from someplace. I think they made the right move, to both stay in business and keep getting better, and to offer the most to the most people for the most purposes (and most budgets to boot). It's not perfect, but what is?
The main reason I speculated on this, is because apple has been having chip supply and a few chip quality problems like forever. Motorla let them down big time, and ibm lets them down occassionaly. I realise it's a ton of dough, but how much have they lost *potentially* over the last ten years especially in the horsepower wars from not having better and faster chips and in the quantity they needed them in? Just a WAG but it has to be in the billions with at least a loss of 10% market share they could have had, if they had had the numbers to use with marketing. They got hosed, not withstanding various benchmarks and real world performance, etc,that's been debated her forever, that's not the point, the point is in what really sold a LOT of pcs and that was pure numbers as in clock speed. It was used,hokey as that might be, we all have to admit it, and intel and AMD both profited handsomely from it. If apple had had all the engineering they had, PLUS some more impressive numbers the past ten years during the huge computer buying explosion, they would have done *much* better.
Look at this article, yet again another apple CPU problem leading to other problems. this has got to be getting old to Apple. IMO, impressive as they are now and what they can do with what they have, they are years behind where they could be from relying on others for such an *important* component, them being in the computer hardware business and all.
As to the engineering of it, this is *apple*, I doubt they would have an engineering problem with it, even if it would be a new direction for them.
Now look at some of the rest of the thread, mentioning the new gaming consoles also having an impact. Could apple also offer a game console, and offset the cost of the chip fabplant and design efforts? Look at their successes with other products. To me, they still have three major devices they could sell, a real PDA as in bring back the supermagnumiNewton, they could sell a game console, and they could even offer their own cellphone, perhaps with their brand VOIP.
And if they made their own CPUs.......
I'm just throwing out stuff I know other people thought of long ago, just a-wondering, as much stranger things have happened before.
...design and build their own chips. They design and build/assemble everything else, so the core compenent they should do as well. Ya, it would take some scratch, but they got it in the bank and their credit is good.
either that or buy Sun and do it right, and have top to bottom computer solutions
well, just so far in the past two decades we've gone to hardly any forced drugging in the schools to in some areas it's approaching 1/4th to 1/3rd of the children deemed so unstable they need to be drugged. And we have the ability to have implantable drug delivery systems now. and we have the ability to implant radio controlled chips.
Add up the tech, think a decade or so down the road, throw in a few more phony terror attacks, and what do you see as most probable for the general population, given the speed of tech advances and governmental command/control/surveillance interests now?
It's the same as any other tech, they will always abuse it. I can not think of a single aspect of technology that ISN'T being abused by government now, speaking in general terms. Just now they have the ability to create a society of 99% complacent drones, and to enforce it by law. The tech is here *now* it requires nothing more, and it will just get easier and more sophisticated. We have accepted big brother cameras all over, random stasi like "paperz pleez" checkpoints. We accept governmental lies and nothing happens to the liars except they profit. We accept the mass media being a propoganda arm of corporgovernment, and nothing much happens.
When they have enough people faked out into it, being tagged and chipped and commanded and controlled and surveilled routinely, and doing it "voluntarily" even though they have been literally brainwashed into it over two generations, then they will switch to *mandatory* and we truly will have a complete big brother society. I do not give it more than about 10 to 15 more years to get there, either. It might even start well in earnest after this year, given the high probability of another reichstagg fire terror event that they assure us is coming soon.
I hate to be a pessimist about it, but frankly, you watch society for a long enough time and see 10 instances of de-evolution for every instance of e-volution, for the better, and it gets hard to be an optimist.
" Copyright is a fairly minor regulation as these things go"
Actually, I agree. So fining people many thousands of dollars, and now threatening them with jail time, for downloading and storing free copies on their hard drives is *not* a minor penalty. And it is not classic theft, and it is certainly not "piracy".
This needs more than a "little" reform. The music and movie industry has long cried crocodile tears over any form of copying saying it would destroy their industries. Yet it hasn't. They were against reel to reel tape recorders, home vhs recorders, cassette recorders, and now cd/dvd and hard drive recorders. They seek to limit software in various forms, and the actual future designs of computers, let alone their propietary "players" they keep pushing with "regions" and such like absurdities.
Any previous examples have shown it hasn't hurt their industry. In fact it's done the opposite, kept interest higher than, IMO, it should be for their "products", most of which are of quite dubious quality and societal merit, and increased their profits enormously. They are *not* hurting financially. And, the movie and music industry as a group have been guilty,charged and found guilty, over and over again, of colluding as a criminal cartel to keep prices high, and from restricting movies and music and artists which don't fit inside their closed cartel market model, now all the way to legislation which almost forces that.
The phenomenon of P2P was and is a normal outgrowth to obviously screwy industry moves and screwier governmental regulations. The same has happened many times in the past with various stupid laws and industry collusion, and when it's obvious that industry or government refuses to change, then it's up to the people themselves to just ignore them and shun the stupidity.
And please, don't tell me we can "vote" on this, we don't have much in the way of a representative republic any longer, that is LONG gone, we have a government by and for the interests of millionaires and billionaires and their business interests, and that's about it. The vote is a sham, and to make sure it stays that way, they, our new techno-feudalistic corporofascistic overlords have dropped billions across the nation, during a time of massive debt, in the past two years, to make sure everyone will get to "benefit" from black box, unauditable, completely hackable by the insiders, "voting".
the point is moot for me. Forced chipping is an automatic second amendment activation. Just *ain't* gonna go there.
And speaking of second amendment,just coincidently, last night right after I went to bed, we had a drive by shooting incident here. I don't see what they hit looking around today, so I have no idea what the target really was, maybe they were jacking deer, but it was RIGHT out front of our house, and that just don't fly to my way of thinking. I heard a car slow down, then three shots, then they split. I hit the deck out of the bed, rolled, grabbed a handy equalizer and hung out in the dark, but I heard the car drive away quickly. I most definetly would have shot back. I purposely stayed low and away from the windows though for a minute, so I didn't see the car. If they had continued I would have retaliated with lotsa force. Lots.
Sucks though, haven't had any words with anyone around here or no enemeies I can think of.
I know I read about one before, but can't find a reference fast for that. I did find a seal rfid tag reference though for containers, which I know isn't the same thing. perhaps the inside rfid uses the container shell as the antenna, to beat the farady cage deal. shipping container seals and tracking
scroll down, little article in there on tracking using rfid and gps in tandem.
in cryptzoology(which I like, it's just a fun subject), there is a legendary/mythical mountain worm in switzerland called, I think, the "tatzelwurm". That spelling is probably wrong, and I'm remembering it from some book I read in junior high, either a frank edwards or a bernard heuvelmans.
but ya, we need better cooler names for cyber bugs.
Slashdot Mirror
although it is not unique in being a news and commentary site, it is a very large site, with discussions being the primary resource here. That's the difference, you can go read news all over the net, but some people wish to have discussions about it. Given that thousands of news articles appear daily across the WWW, the editors can only fit so many into the pages and still have enough of a base to handle the discussions adequately. If all you want to do is read news, why bother coming here and posting a complaint? Shouldn't you be out reading more news someplace else?
He does not appear clueless to me. Let's see your site for comparison.
Let me see, parents who care enough about their kids to devote significant amounts of their time and a lot of effort into educating their children. And this is something to laugh about?
The home schooled children I have met are without exception well educated and interesting people. It is more common than not to see them enter college at very young ages. I have yet to meet any who aren't much more advanced than the typical child of similar age in a public school system.
Why don't you troll somewhere else, and pick on an adult as well?
heheheheh, you win! Best explanation yet!
I'm a neogeezer and I think the same exact way as you do, but with a twist! I try to avoid cops, because they are all 20 year old skinhead punks(or look and act like it to me) and they think I am up to no good!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
I have never seen GTA, but I read someplace-and I am willing to be corrected on it of course if I am wrong-that in one of the scenes of play, the "heros" or whomever these illusionary characters are supposed to represent to the human players, rape a prostitute then kill her aftwards. Is this correct? If so,I am wondering, this is supposed to be "entertaining" and "really cool" and "relieve stress" somehow?
I think people are being more than a little coy with their reactions to imagery-video and sound, including subsonics designed to garner an emotional response- manipulations,leading to conditioining, even brainwashing to use a more commonly understood term for all of the above, and thinking they are "immune" to it, because they are...fill in the blank, "leet" will suffice.
Nothing is further from the truth, all humans are susceptable to it, in some form or another..
Advertising works. Brainwashing works. Industry (and governments and cults for that matter) would not drop a hundred billion a year on advertising-brainwashing, using images and sounds to garner a reaction- if it didn't work. On another level, the armed forces would not do what they do in boot camp if it didn't work. They would not now be developing videogames to add to that brainwashing effort if they thought or knew it didn't work.
Conditioning conditions, that's what it is designed to do, it gets people to accept what they normally wouldn't be inclined to accept, to one degree or another,and especially if they can be changed quickly to become *enthusiastic* about it, to give them a "reward" somehow,so they become addicted to it even faster, and therefore become conditioned or brainwashed faster.
Here's another example that should be obvious. The mass broadcast media works in getting people to accept the notion that "they can't change government" or "you can't fight city hall" and "what you gonna do?" such ideas and strongly held beliefs, to just year in and out accept their version of the lesser but still evil, and put up with it. They get that way primarily from first being brainwashed into it in public schools when they are very young and impressionable, and then a lifetime of watching and being conditioned by what they are told in the 6 o clock news, as "real",and everything else-no matter the data-is "tin foil hat conspiracy theory". That is an example of a form of mass conditioning done through electronic images and sounds primarily, and it works very, very well.
To think anything as obviously addictive as violent video games has *no* long term harmful affect,or does not lead to a certain amount of conditioning or acceptance, to me, is naieve. The level is a variable, but not that it happens.
This is a pretty sensitive subject here on slashdot,and it is about as close to an automatic kneejerk reaction as you can get to any subject, even beyond automatic SCO loathing. As much as our society as a whole does games, here it has to be a much higher percentage generally speaking, so I would say there would be immediate almost total mass denial of any of the negative aspects to violent video games. I knew that before I went past the headline. And, looking at the thread, it's mostly true, "games" where people are killed and tortured are "healthy" for you it is claimed.
uh huh, sure they are.
I'll have to fall in the distinct minority here on slashdot when it comes to video games, and in particular the violent ones. I do not find them, or even the concept of them, "healthy". At best on I am neutral on some, but the violent ones? No, I've seen adults addicted to them, it is not pretty nor healthy. As expected, if you as a friend drop a hint they just might be addicted, they won't admit it either.
Of course, I also have never enjoyed slasher movies, which are just as popular I gather in society. I've seen a few, way in the past, just enough to think to myself, "this is the *real* pornography that is harmful to people" and to stop lookin
I would imagine there are a lot of people (like me) who had *no idea* what this is or what it is for. Here is the one paragraph definition of it FTA:
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"Maven defines itself as a project-management and project-comprehension tool. Its project object model (POM) controls the development and management of a project. The POM controls builds, document creation, site publication and distribution publication and can be stored in an XML file. Maven also provides a set of tools to enable developers to automatically generate a number of critical items, such as source metrics; mailing, developer and dependency lists; software development process documentation; change logs based directly on source repository; and source cross-references."
In other words, it looks like a cross between the head cheese coding despot on any development project mailinglist and an automated webmaster thingee.... a management worker bot whatever.. it's a....
I still don't know what it is
...article and anniversary with the NASA (and ansariX-prise) challenges in the article above. Make it something like 10 billion or some big number for the first permanent moon base. Put a donation check off on the income tax instead of the presidential election checkoff, fund the prize that way. Let's get the show on the road, enough's enough with the fooling around. We are humans, we explore, that's what we do, so let's do it!
How many of the chinese immigrants there are sleeper agents of the PLA?
It's not only civilian crime you have to worry about. It wouldn't take half a dozen dedicated agents/assymetrical warfare types to cause a tremendous amount of havoc at any time *they* pick in most cities. The US and Canadian lack of serious immigration oversight and restrictions will destroy both those nations sometime in the future. Europe can look out for itself with their governments and immigration laws and policies, I am primarily interested in north america above the mexican border, which has been decimated in the last decade from un restricted illegal immigration and too much legal immigration. Enoughs enough, if all those other places had such hot cultures, then the people there wouldn't be leaving, and they would have developed economies that wouldn't make them want to leave their home countries. Diluting the US and Canada will accomplish nothing more than dilution, and it's obvious it's hurtting the middle classes in both those nations. Way back in the 1800's when we still had a very small population and a lot of free land and opportunity, sure, we needed a lot of immigration, we could absorb it and it was welcomed, that was then, this is now, all the land, every single square inch of it, is spoken for, nothing is free, we've expanded coast to coast, many areas now are already completely maxed out with infrastructure costs, water resources, etc, so it's time to stop the massive transference of human populations from second and third world places to the last remnants of the first world. Let those other nations fix their own problems, they don't need to be exporting their problems, and the globalists need to be stopped on exporting still useful and necessary jobs.
I think most people in the US and Canada are too naieve. They think wars are only things that happen overseas on television, and someplace carved in stone is a planetary rule that it can't happen to them. And they also still seem to think that the major politicians and partys we have are working "for the people" instead of "working for the globalist transnationals" which is closer to reality.
And intel services? HA1!11 Phooie! There's a story running on Drudge right now about an entire brand new type of Chinese submarine that slipped past them guys. They didn't even see it. It got launched already.
If they can't even pick up on an entire new submarine, don't count on them to see and stop nation-state sleeper agents, or to stop "independent" terrorist actions, or to even stop rogue elements from inside the governments themselves from doing similar actions.
say you wanted to, just in theory. How do you switch between the two as you surf around? Or is just automatic, or what?
I understand that. I mentioned there are two versions, one for business and one for hobbiests. You use the right one for the right job (or non job in my case, just a free OS). Seeing as how I'm not a business, I went for the one that suits my needs, which aren't as critical as for a business. I expect the version I use to be betaware, that's the whole idea, that's the version that gets both new features and also you expect more bugs. As they get worked out, the knowledge gets applied to the commercial product, which you can buy boxed set, or if you don't mind a kit form and some assembly required, I think you can still get FTP piece by piece. And I know there's cheaper whitebox versions as well from third parties.
That's true, but the civilian humans on the planet lost the trans sonic concorde as a "ride", with no replacement for it in the near future. I never rode on it, but LadyZ here, the retired skygoddess, did a few times, she said it was *neat*.
:(
Heck, what am I saying, I just wish my 100+ MPG moped was still running......
"Being a Democrat or Republican is not like being Borg"
This is true! The Borg are neither bribable nor blackmailable!
..which means there used to be a lot of oxygen there. There are still remnants of water, some evidence anyway. At one time it was nicer there, with a better atmosphere.
I think there's still microbial life there, and higher forms used to exist. Just a feeling, no other decent evidence.
Apple doesn't have to beat them, as they wouldn't be in the chip exporting business and trying to keep a buncha customers happy with varying demands. They would have to make what they need for internal use, and that's it.
And to fund the effort? The traditional way perhaps, like every other company does it. They use a combination of cash in hand and maybe do another stock deal of some form. It would shake the industry up a little, and so what to that. If they announced their intentions to start their own chip building, well, a lot of stock would get traded,both ways, and it would be in the financial interests of people already using and profitting from apple products to help out. They are a small company, but they have decent credibility,and they pull off and profit from stuff that is almost universally decried at first by most pundits, proving they DO have something on the ball. Look at something as simple as a portable music player and a way to get the music in those players and make money from it. Many previous tried, with varying degrees of success and non success, but when they did it, it worked, they proved the detractors wrong, as they usually do. They are a quite good blend of design, engineering and marketing concepts company overall, a lot better than most, because they really understand vertical integration, and adding chip fabbing is an obvious point where they haven't vertically integrated yet. It's expensive and hard to do, but they already have a guaranteed 100% market for that theoretical new product, so that part is covered, it's not like they would be attempting that new enterprise in an uncertainty void of sales.
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I just don't get it. With fedora, I'm getting the same deal I was getting with the distro when it had redhat slapped on the label. I get a full OS, the price is right, in my case a few bucks plus shipping, and free security and enhancement updates. When I am stuck on something I go look on google. When I had a boxed set with RH on the label, it cost me 60 clams, and I got free security and enhancement updates. The only difference is I got some redhat stickers and a dead trees version of the manual. When I got stuck on something back then I went and looked on google. I have a better distro with more stuff than two years ago, and it costs me less, so I should be mad at redhat and..huh?
You make money from free software primarily by using that software in your other, *real* business, building/selling/servicing widgets.
Redhat got two versions,one sorta free kinda,and one really really free,and it actually costs them to provide it. One for businesses who are theoretically making enough money using computers somehow to be able to pay a fee for the "pro-commercial" version, and another one for hobbiests and enthusiasts who agree to help out and help develop and look for bugs, etc. Seems reasonable to me.
I don't see what the big negative deal is really. Either version works, the pro version has a different and more tweaked server and some other doo-dads obviously, but you get more support. The really free version has everything you need as well, just somewhat different, I mean apache is apache and whatnot. The money has to come from someplace. I think they made the right move, to both stay in business and keep getting better, and to offer the most to the most people for the most purposes (and most budgets to boot). It's not perfect, but what is?
who actually owns the ppc arch designs?
The main reason I speculated on this, is because apple has been having chip supply and a few chip quality problems like forever. Motorla let them down big time, and ibm lets them down occassionaly. I realise it's a ton of dough, but how much have they lost *potentially* over the last ten years especially in the horsepower wars from not having better and faster chips and in the quantity they needed them in? Just a WAG but it has to be in the billions with at least a loss of 10% market share they could have had, if they had had the numbers to use with marketing. They got hosed, not withstanding various benchmarks and real world performance, etc,that's been debated her forever, that's not the point, the point is in what really sold a LOT of pcs and that was pure numbers as in clock speed. It was used,hokey as that might be, we all have to admit it, and intel and AMD both profited handsomely from it. If apple had had all the engineering they had, PLUS some more impressive numbers the past ten years during the huge computer buying explosion, they would have done *much* better.
Look at this article, yet again another apple CPU problem leading to other problems. this has got to be getting old to Apple. IMO, impressive as they are now and what they can do with what they have, they are years behind where they could be from relying on others for such an *important* component, them being in the computer hardware business and all.
As to the engineering of it, this is *apple*, I doubt they would have an engineering problem with it, even if it would be a new direction for them.
Now look at some of the rest of the thread, mentioning the new gaming consoles also having an impact. Could apple also offer a game console, and offset the cost of the chip fabplant and design efforts? Look at their successes with other products. To me, they still have three major devices they could sell, a real PDA as in bring back the supermagnumiNewton, they could sell a game console, and they could even offer their own cellphone, perhaps with their brand VOIP.
And if they made their own CPUs.......
I'm just throwing out stuff I know other people thought of long ago, just a-wondering, as much stranger things have happened before.
...design and build their own chips. They design and build/assemble everything else, so the core compenent they should do as well. Ya, it would take some scratch, but they got it in the bank and their credit is good.
either that or buy Sun and do it right, and have top to bottom computer solutions
well, just so far in the past two decades we've gone to hardly any forced drugging in the schools to in some areas it's approaching 1/4th to 1/3rd of the children deemed so unstable they need to be drugged. And we have the ability to have implantable drug delivery systems now. and we have the ability to implant radio controlled chips.
Add up the tech, think a decade or so down the road, throw in a few more phony terror attacks, and what do you see as most probable for the general population, given the speed of tech advances and governmental command/control/surveillance interests now?
It's the same as any other tech, they will always abuse it. I can not think of a single aspect of technology that ISN'T being abused by government now, speaking in general terms. Just now they have the ability to create a society of 99% complacent drones, and to enforce it by law. The tech is here *now* it requires nothing more, and it will just get easier and more sophisticated. We have accepted big brother cameras all over, random stasi like "paperz pleez" checkpoints. We accept governmental lies and nothing happens to the liars except they profit. We accept the mass media being a propoganda arm of corporgovernment, and nothing much happens.
When they have enough people faked out into it, being tagged and chipped and commanded and controlled and surveilled routinely, and doing it "voluntarily" even though they have been literally brainwashed into it over two generations, then they will switch to *mandatory* and we truly will have a complete big brother society. I do not give it more than about 10 to 15 more years to get there, either. It might even start well in earnest after this year, given the high probability of another reichstagg fire terror event that they assure us is coming soon.
I hate to be a pessimist about it, but frankly, you watch society for a long enough time and see 10 instances of de-evolution for every instance of e-volution, for the better, and it gets hard to be an optimist.
" Copyright is a fairly minor regulation as these things go"
Actually, I agree. So fining people many thousands of dollars, and now threatening them with jail time, for downloading and storing free copies on their hard drives is *not* a minor penalty. And it is not classic theft, and it is certainly not "piracy".
This needs more than a "little" reform.
The music and movie industry has long cried crocodile tears over any form of copying saying it would destroy their industries. Yet it hasn't. They were against reel to reel tape recorders, home vhs recorders, cassette recorders, and now cd/dvd and hard drive recorders. They seek to limit software in various forms, and the actual future designs of computers, let alone their propietary "players" they keep pushing with "regions" and such like absurdities.
Any previous examples have shown it hasn't hurt their industry. In fact it's done the opposite, kept interest higher than, IMO, it should be for their "products", most of which are of quite dubious quality and societal merit, and increased their profits enormously. They are *not* hurting financially. And, the movie and music industry as a group have been guilty,charged and found guilty, over and over again, of colluding as a criminal cartel to keep prices high, and from restricting movies and music and artists which don't fit inside their closed cartel market model, now all the way to legislation which almost forces that.
The phenomenon of P2P was and is a normal outgrowth to obviously screwy industry moves and screwier governmental regulations. The same has happened many times in the past with various stupid laws and industry collusion, and when it's obvious that industry or government refuses to change, then it's up to the people themselves to just ignore them and shun the stupidity.
And please, don't tell me we can "vote" on this, we don't have much in the way of a representative republic any longer, that is LONG gone, we have a government by and for the interests of millionaires and billionaires and their business interests, and that's about it. The vote is a sham, and to make sure it stays that way, they, our new techno-feudalistic corporofascistic overlords have dropped billions across the nation, during a time of massive debt, in the past two years, to make sure everyone will get to "benefit" from black box, unauditable, completely hackable by the insiders, "voting".
the point is moot for me. Forced chipping is an automatic second amendment activation. Just *ain't* gonna go there.
And speaking of second amendment,just coincidently, last night right after I went to bed, we had a drive by shooting incident here. I don't see what they hit looking around today, so I have no idea what the target really was, maybe they were jacking deer, but it was RIGHT out front of our house, and that just don't fly to my way of thinking. I heard a car slow down, then three shots, then they split. I hit the deck out of the bed, rolled, grabbed a handy equalizer and hung out in the dark, but I heard the car drive away quickly. I most definetly would have shot back. I purposely stayed low and away from the windows though for a minute, so I didn't see the car. If they had continued I would have retaliated with lotsa force. Lots.
Sucks though, haven't had any words with anyone around here or no enemeies I can think of.
this is true, and maybe we could put the "W" products where they belong now, in a level 5 quarantine facility!
I know I read about one before, but can't find a reference fast for that. I did find a seal rfid tag reference though for containers, which I know isn't the same thing. perhaps the inside rfid uses the container shell as the antenna, to beat the farady cage deal.
shipping container seals and tracking
scroll down, little article in there on tracking using rfid and gps in tandem.
in cryptzoology(which I like, it's just a fun subject), there is a legendary/mythical mountain worm in switzerland called, I think, the "tatzelwurm". That spelling is probably wrong, and I'm remembering it from some book I read in junior high, either a frank edwards or a bernard heuvelmans.
but ya, we need better cooler names for cyber bugs.