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Mexican Attorney General Gets Microchip in Arm
novakreo writes "Rafael Macedo de la Concha, Mexico's Attorney-General, now has a non-removable microchip in his arm, to track his movements and to give him access to a new crime database, according to Bloomberg. The article says that eventually around 160 Mexican officials will have a chip implanted." (Wired and CNN are both running the very similar Reuters report, too.)
Well, when someone REALLY wants access to the system, all they'll need is a saw.
"Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival."
--Dr.W.Edwards Deming
...EVERYTHING is removeable. The question is what happens when you do.
Record his transponder signal, and throw a copy of his chip over the border fence into the USA...
I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
Does he really have one?
Trolling using another account since 2005.
The technology exists such that they could in theory make this thing only operate when pysically attached to the body ( say, powered off of blood or bloodflow ), and only operate when in contact with his specific blood type.
So to use it, a perpetraitor would have to a) Kidnap him, b ) cut off his arm, c) surgically graft the thing into someone else with the same blood type.
Hopefully by that point they'd have de-activated his chip.
I imagine in a few years we'd even be able to make these things DNA specific.
"can't be removed" -- I doubt that. *Anything* can be removed from the human body if the remover the required skill and doesn't really care about collateral damage.
I suddenly have a mental image of a Mexican criminal trying to get into a government installation carrying an arm...
How can a chip (or anything else) be non-removable?
Given that it's some kind of RFID, the range is probably quite limited. The chip can be traced only when it is quite close to a detector. I think he can be tracked as long as he doesn't leave his office building.
Why is it sci-fi movies of years past tend to predict the future
:)
terminator/2, cafe flesh etc etc
Anyways im still waiting for the flying cars..
Homeland security soons hopes, through coersion, fear, FUD, false warnings and money, to install trackable microchips in every Mexican by the year 2020.
Upon so doing it will be able to monitor all immigrants crossing the border, and those without chips will obviously be terrorists.
May the Maths Be with you!
> Does he really have one?
Great reference!!! I think if he doesn't really have one, then maybe he's not really the Attourney General, either. Maybe he's just a plantation worker who fell in the Coke vats? IEEEEEEEEEEYIEIEIEIEIE!!!
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
I'm just waiting for the conspiracy theorists on this one:
It's the sign on the devil! Apocalypse is upon us! Major League Baseball really is tracking our movements!
"Righteous speed demon and trust fund party darling of justice"
anyone else doubt the tracking ability of this thing? it would need both a fairly decent rx/antenna, and also a fairly good transmitter to get that info back out. since mexico isn't known for the incredible cell coverage, the incoming part would at least have to be gps. outgoing could be cell, but would be better served by satellite also. So they fit two satellite radio devices into this guy, complete with high gain antennas?
Remember what Boris the Blade did to Frankie Four-Fingers cause he attached the suitcase to his arm?
Banu
Federali wouldn't be a word in Spanish. Maybe Italian or Latin, but not Spanish. I think the Spanish word would be Federales.
my pet machine
Well, do you kick hin in the ass to reboot the thing?
What, with an internal heads-up-display, a la the Terminator
I am Attorney Sancho Panza of Borg, prepare to be indicted!
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
He'll be buying all those drinks "on the arm"...
Remember this?
"I went on a diet, swore off drinking and heavy eating. And in fourteen days, I had lost exactly two weeks. Joe E. Lewis
And his parents can track him on his way to work...
All he needs now is the school girl uniform and a red knapsack.
flinging poop since 1969
It looks like he's giving Professor Kevin Warwick a run for his money...
Next step: interfacing with computers using mind control!
sig:- (wit >= sarcasm)
Civilian contractors in Iraq need this technology
not Mexican Attorney Generals.
This guy really does have a chip on his shoulder..
(ok ok arm, its close..)
Seriously though, is there really any justification for this? Is this not something that can be achieved by other, less obtrusive methods?
"You lied to me! There is a Swansea!"
can you run linux on Him? Now that's what I call an Embedded solution.
...was to it easier for him to booze at the Baja Beach Club in Barcelona.
"How to Do Nothing," kids activities, back in print!
On the other hand, if *I* can get access to the Crime database at the price of being tracked everywhere, where do I sign up? I'm sure I can find a way to profit from such access.
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
How hard is it to block the signal? kidnap them throw them in a foil lined body bag then scan later in a basement to remove.
I guess in one sense you could mail them the chip to prove you have the official.
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
I can't wait for all the Christians to start wailing about 666 and the antichrist and stuff.
What they don't know is that the number was originally 616 and that these numbers were the result of a popular mental exercise of the ancient world where you would add up the numerical values of the letters of some famous person's name and then have others try to guess what name corresponds to the sum. I think 666 corresponded to Calligula, and 616 was some other Caesar.
En Rusia soviética, el microchip le programa!
is now embedded UNDER my skull
If your gonna cut it out odds are you don't really cares what happens to him. I say use an ax. It'll be more fun that way.
Evolution or ID?
I hope he read the warning label:
Caution: do not microwave person with RFID tag. Tag may vent with flame causing serious and possibly fatal wounds.
But don't worry. Microwave safe RFID tags are surely just around the corner.
-Adam
On the bright side, I guess we'll have the first Black Female Mexican president soon, after a dramatic election day fiasco.
WUBBAwubbaWUBBAwubbaWUBBAwubbaWUBBAwubba
Reminds of "Interface" by N. Stephenson.
When will he run for presidential election?
If he ever goes bad we won't have to worry about finding him. The US can target a couple missles at him and sit back. No searching like for Saddam.
If he pisses us off, an arm chair soldier could take him out. Just like a vid game.
Evolution or ID?
Harris Miller says he can program C++ like a madman plus he's got Cisco certs.
I, for one, welcome our new Cybernetic Mexican Overlords...
Wow, two post about the same book in the same minute :) Kewl.
``The system is already in place and I already have it,'' he said. ``It's only for access, for security and so that I can also be located at any moment anywhere I am.''
If I have the key I can drop an NLOS on you ass baby!
http://www.raytheon.com/products/nlos/
I'd go on a Vegan diet but the delivery time from Vega is too long. --brownkitty
So, if he walks through the scanner at one of those "supermarkets of the future", how much does it ring up for him?
And, does it know to use Pesos?
Chip H.
im a god fearing christian and when i heard about this it made me sick! this is definitely the mark of the devil! 666! the bible prophecises the mark will appear on the skin! hello! this chip goes under the skin and makes a mark ON THE SKIN! dear heavens, protect us from satan himself!
After hearing about Mexican Attourney-General California officials quickly started work on a bionic eye for their governor. It will feature night vision, and will integrate into a secret electronic defense system.
Rumours have it, the eye will also have complete plug and play support.
Fu*bZZZTTT enchiritos I cannot remove this godd*vBZZT Vchip from my arm, compadre!
Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
Then I can play all the cool games! Right now I can't play worth a flip.. ...this is about the new playstation right? Maybe I should go back and read the article...
THIS has been done before.
We can rebuild him. We have the technology.
We have the capability to make the world's first Bionic man.
Rafael Macedo de la Concha will be that man.
Better than he was before.
Better . . . stronger . . . faster.
duh nah nah nah nahhhh...
this will stop as soon as terrorist use RFID sensors to "trigger personalised" bombs.
A few months ago i was consultant for a goverment agency. They were plannng to install RFID chips into the cars of VIPs to save them from stopping at the parkhouse entrance of that agency. The goal was to avoid stops and deny snipers a shot. We were able to convince them that this was "not a good idea" ®SMALL>TM.
Regards, Martin
and so it begins... 13:16 He causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slave, to be given marks on their right hands, or on their foreheads; 13:17 and that no one would be able to buy or to sell, unless he has that mark, the name of the beast or the number of his name. 13:18 Here is wisdom. He who has understanding, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is six hundred sixty-six.
..If it is.. have the americans used the mexicans as guinea pigs to test out chip implants in humans? There is no mention about the medical safety of any such device. :-P
I mean id never let any such implant come near me.Besides the idea of someone tracking me all the time is SPOOOKY!
Lord of the Binges.
... Upgrades.
*cue martial arts fighting scenes*
Founder of Mirror Moon - Tsukihime Game Trans
(go on... make the joke!)
/. humor. next best thing to china white.)
What joke? I don't know what you're talking about!
(don't act all coy with me. it's sitting right there waiting for you. take your shot!)
Shut up! I don't hear you!!
(oh, come on. think of the adoration. think of the +5 Funny!)
NO! NO!NO!NO!
(just one little joke. it's easy. mexican attorney general? chip in his arm? do it.)
Do WHAT?!
(quit playing games. mexican? chip? tortilla chip? do it now before someone else takes your precious karma away!)
I WON'T!
(you know you will...)
NO!
(+5 Funny, baby. just this once. do it for me. for old times sake.)
I HATE YOU!
(you know you want it...)
[sigh]
Fine.
"Hey, guys! Is it a *tortilla* chip?!"
(aah... i can feel the sweet, lovely "Funny" mods already. can you feel it yet?)
Leave me alone.
(aah... the sweet burn of cheap
A microchip in the Arm...
Is there an ARM in the microchip?
would give their right arm to get access to that data.
Don't put off until tomorrow what you can leave until the day after.
In the ST:TOS episode "Patterns of Force", Spock and Kirk are sent down to the planet to undo the mess that historian John Gill created when he indoctrinated the Ekosian people with the idea that the Nazi society would work. Before leaving the ship, both Spock and Kirk were injected with a crystal that had similar properties to an RFID chip.
Now, this Mexican official is set! All he needs now is to rip up the bed springs, slit his arm and remove the crystal, and he can burn his way out of his jail cell with a homemade laser!! How cool is that shit?
Chip readout: 'delivery boy'.
Nooooooooooooooo!
"It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful." - Anton LaVey
The article does not specify how it is made non-removable. Perhaps it reacts to air (but not blood etc!). Any ideas? Perhaps they just claim that to dissuade people chopping him up to get his security access...
Posters recognized by their sig,
I feel much more confortable tagging my government officals with RFID tags then I do with being tagged by the government. This is almost like a reverse 1984 thing. Or like:
In Soviate Russia YOU watch government.
Wait no thats not right. Head spins.
didn't Beowulf the arm off of Grendl?
I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
He should have waited for SP2 - now how the hell can he update!
I wonder if it would be better using the ARM processor? ...nyuck nyuck nyuck
(or maybe the Strong ARM)...
.
I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
... everyone to get the chip obviously. They know in advance it would be resisted, so to mitigate that, they have to first chip the ones who will be enforcing the mass chipping. That means the paramilitary the overt military and the police, and they have to start at the top in those orgs so that the orders will be followed. Every step of the mass chipping has to be taken precisely. They scare the parents into chipping the youngest. They force the highest levels in government to get the chip. The police and military get it, so that they can say "what citizen, you rdfuse the chip? WE got the chip, so if we can do it, you can do it", along those lines. We've seen the plans coming soon to chip cops hands so that that chip will activate their "smart" guns, so only the cop can use them. Special forces in the military are the first to be getting the chip. Criminals will be getting the chip soon, to track them inside the jail, then outside forever. As they enforce the chips in these unique areas, eventually enough of the population will have them so that the rest may be mandated to get them, perhaps to tie in with a universal ID system.
One step at a time, how they do most things.
This topcop down there being chipped might be related to corruption in mexico, no idea, seems reasonable enough though. It is obvious that we are seeing an outright complete merging of the countries, any sort of "border" now is becoming moot, so perhaps they will be trying out the more extreme measures down in mexico first, to work out the bugs, see what sort of techniques are more efficient.
...sales of lead armbands in Mexico City are skyrocketing.
I say next time some terrorists threaten to behead someone if we do not release some prisoners I say we release the prisoners . . . . Just implant one of these chips and let them return to their group and in a few weeks track them.
...do they have the right to bear arms down there?
I think this is obviously just a PR stunt by the Mexico officials to make it look like they are "doing something" about the crime in their country, when in fact this doesn't really help at all.
Think about it. You want to threaten the bad guys, who are a little less educated and a whole lot more guilable then you are. In that light you concoct a story that makes it sound like this database is being watched with "superhuman" effeciency by the head in each district. Throw in the part about tracking and non removable to make kidnapping seem dangerous, and you keep the officials safe on top of it.
This sounds like it is the high tech version of the "This is protected by an alarm system." sticker. Instead of just buying them and sticking them on your windows, you do a press conference.
Actually, this could be a good idea for people who are afraid they are going to be taken hostage. If I had to go to Iraq, I wouldn't mind having a chip in me so I could get rescued if I were taken hostage.
From the Article: Mexico's Attorney General Rafael Macedo de la Concha said he had a non-removable microchip implanted in his arm as a security measure to track him throughout Mexico and to give him access to a crime data bank.
They say they'll have access to the network, but apparently, in Soviet Mexico, THE NETWORK WILL HAVE ACCESS TO *THEM*.
Just say NO to the Mark of the Beast, kids. Especially if it's running Microsoft.
I'm not normally an irrational zealous dickhead, but I figure "When in Rome..."
Seems like the "limitations" of range and power to RFID tags that people kept saying would make them impractical for mass universal chipping are being overcome at a fast rate.
The usual FUD is that the politicians would get all the citizens implanted with chips, and that they would be able to spy on our every movement.
Mexico has come up with the concept of implanting the politicians so that the citizens can spy on their every movement.
This is a definite improvement, if you ask me.
This sig seemed like a good idea at the time....
"Microchip in ARM"... and say "DUH"
Most presidents pay lip-service to Mexico, while it would appear to me that Bush has actually tried to build a relationship with Mexico.
If one was to hate Mexicans, I would think there were better candidates to support than Bush.
So let me guess that you are a frightened panty-waist whose heritage comes from a country that can't defend itself, and a Communist Party supporter.
"nice beowulf cluster you have there" ... "Oh wait, its just the Mexican government, nevermind..."
You talking about the Bush that proposed amnesty for illeagles currently in the US because they are important to our economy? I'm not sure how you get from kyknos hatefull comment to Bush, or are you Michael Moore simply taking the opportunity to bash Bush regardless of reality?
Maybe I'm not totally up to date on this technology, but there's a few things I don't understand.
1. What exactly does "non removeable" mean? Grafted to the bone? Will he die if it is removed? It will be deactivated after he retires, which is understandable, but why couldn't they remove it if it's not going to functioning anymore anyway?
2. The chip gives him access to a crime bank... how? Does he have a USB port in his finger now? Bar code? Magnetic strip?
3. The chip also allows him to be tracked throughout the country. This would imply he is a target, in danger of being kidnapped, held for ransom, murdered, etc etc... was it really such a wise idea to tell the world that he has such a tracking devise on him, and where it is? If he was to be kidnapped, the arm could be removed to throw authorities off the trail. Or maybe the secret is WHICH arm it's in?
Maybe I'm getting paranoid, but I don't find this technolocy very desirable or even very useful. What's next? Explosive implants (ala The Fortress) on inmates to prevent jailbreak? Trackers implanted on registered sex offenders? How long before implants are mandatory?
~hed~
As somebody on another forum astutely observed, the way that this will be sold at first is by "chip = vip" method.
Expect non-removable chips to become a chic accessory in the next few years.
It's fine to have a chip implanted to get access to a crime database.
It's not fine to have to have a chip implanted when you're added to a crime database.
actually, i'm guessing it's a reference to martin lawrence in the movie blue streak. and i think the point of the original joke is that it's not even spanish.
But how many US officials have the chip? My guess is many of them probably do and its simply not public knowledge. I would be shocked if The Dubya himself did not have something even more powerful implanted in him in the event of one of many worst case scenerio's where he could be be kidnapped.
Although I agree that implanting people with chips is pretty dehumanizing, if you agree to a particular job you have to agree with the particular terms of employment, no matter how absurd, if you don't like it then find a new line of work its that simple. Those gov't employess have an option to do this so comparing their situation to the serial number tatoos on jews in concentration camps is almost laughable.
And before anyone can even think to say "Well then the US gov't wouldn't cooperate with them" and "The US gov't is forcing them to do this". I will once again say everyone has a choice, The Mexican government can choose not to work with the US in sharing intelligence but there are consequences to every choice. I am sure the Mexican government and the Mexican officials themselves weighed the consequences of every particular course of action carefully so if they choose to implant their officials with chips the consequences of those decisions fall upon the Mexican government itself and no one else.
I think the invisible hand of the market has its middle finger extended
--A wise old fart named SC0RN
Bush has trouble stringing enough words together to complete a simple, declarative sentence and would have trouble talking a whore into bed even if he paid in advance.
Its time to start tracking the government, why should leaders be allowed to sit behind closed doors giving favours to big corporations, and dont tell me that doesnt happen. On the other arm, i think any technology like this - biometrics and implants is a very bad idea. It now means that in order to get mugged, someone could go to the length of cutting your arm off or gouging out your eyes, or going the opposite way and stopping you having access to something by burning your finger-prints off. I don't think we even need to debate that it should be a basic human right for someone to choose not be forced to identify themselves with certain biometrics or implants, where do we draw the line though?
Definately 24/7 recording of all politicians though or atleast sand-boxing them so they cant talk to un-authorised people, you don't see a jury having a little chat with the murderer do you?
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Incorrect the Greek says 666. Rev. 13:18 has 666 not 616. Has Hexakosioi 600 (strongs 1812) and Hexekonta (strongs 1835) means sixty and Hex (strongs 1803) means 6. So 666 not 616.
When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
When the only tool you have is a shotgun, every problem looks for the nearest exit.
But when the only tool you have is an axe, every problem looks like hours of gleeful, giddy, glorious fun!
Just type in "choicepoint foreign" into google and you see why Mexico wants to protect their data. By the way, it was a 4 man team in a Sarasota division of Choicepoint that created the atxi.com system before it was shut down on Sept. 30, 2003. It's a really interesting story why the voting blunder in 2000 made headlines but nothing really hit mainstream about the "borrowing" of foreign data from Latin American countries and then supplying it to our own government for a super huge price tag.
...a Beowulf cluster of this guy.
Badges?! We don't need no stinking BADGES!!
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Welcome to the future, cyberpunks.
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Live as if you'll die tomorrow.
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A Burrowulf cluster of Mexican officials!
(Apologies in advnance for my terrible Spanish)
Member of Orkut? Annoyed with spam?
This gives a very big incentive for terrorist groups (and others) to steal or clone the reading mechanism. Heck, imagine a world in the future where it were common for leaders to do something like this and the U.S. government decided to take them out ... like we tried and failed so many times with Saddam Hussein and others. We would simply need to hack into the database and see who authenticated via their chip where, and all of a sudden a surgical strike is QUITE possible.
;) over the area to keep it inert.
... oh wait, that's ALUMINUM?
Maybe this needs to happen a few times for said leaders to understand the privacy issues behind such systems, no way to tell.
I do find it pretty amazing though. At the least I hope there is technology to allow the embedee to say, slap a small piece of tinfoil (ok, so it would probably need to be something else, just giving a nod to some folks
Is this an active chip or a passive one like an RFID chip? I wonder if it is safe for the human body to take a dose of radiation large enough to fry such a device (if passive, even if it had a destruct sequence, it would need extra radiation to perform such a sequence).
Anyway, off to find the Reynolds
It is more productive to voice thoughtful opinions (reply) than to judge (moderate) others.
...a non-removable microchip in his arm, to ... give him access to a new crime database...
Somewhere in Mexico, an IT guy is laughing his ass off.
In Soviet Russia^W^W Mexico, the spooks get tracked by YOU!
Sparks:Gadget:Beer Maker
... no, Left arm for one of those chips. And one for my wife, Morgan Fairchild. and another for my robot, my GIRL robot!
Busy aligning my non-linear thoughts.
Let's get this straight:
Mexico it's suffering the highest crimes rates
ever.
Assaults and kidnaps galore in Mexico City.
Solution?
Insert some chips to law enforcement!!!???
I think this guys are more afraid of the Mafia in
Mexico and that's why they want to be tracked.
They are afraid of every "citizen" out there coming after them.. to get even(ajustar cuentas).
But like the Molotov song goes:
Si le das mas poder al poder...mas duro
te van a venir a joder!
- these are not the droids you are looking for -
Is that a non-sequitor, or what? Why does he need a tracking chip in his arm to be able to access the crime database? He's the Attorney General -- if anyone should have access to the crime database, it would be him. Who could possibly make a rule forcing him to do anything in order to access the database? RFIDs might be good for physical identification, but it seems silly to use it for access to an online database.
Software sucks. Open Source sucks less.
Let's bug all the politicians, police men, secret services people etc. in the world! That way, we know instantly who not to trust, where they are and what they do.
What they really need are weapons, armed guards and bulletproof cabs. The media typically doesn't give any details about _how_ the truck drivers are captured by the insurgents; I'm picturing some trucker just sitting in a standard cab, unarmed.
I recall hearing that the Iraqis that have been hired as security guards only make a hundred or so American dollards per month. With hired help costing little more than chicken scratch, why aren't the truck drivers hiring their own personal guards? My impression is that these guys are sitting ducks.
Mexico, or USA?
every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
Many are jokes, a few feign seriousness, and there are sometimes one or two that appear to be truly righteously indigant (on Christian grounds) in regards to the technology.
I personally don't touch eschatology, as I have better things to do with my time, but I thought I would repeat (or rather, paraphrase) the insight of a non-Christian poster of several months ago.
Not making any judgment calls (as a Christian myself), but thought I would repeat the insight for the benefit of all.
- Neil Wehneman
My legal education, in nifty podcast format
imagine a beowulf cluster of Mexicans
that NAFTA's real benefit for the ruling elite of Mexico is the aforementioned population problem.
Without NAFTA, you would have constant civil unrest. NAFTA is the simplest way to alleviate the nation of surplus population and provide sort of work to keep the rest of the masses busy.
George Bush has chip on shoulder
Are these the same Mexican officials that buy stolen SUV & Luxury cars from America? You should see all the US Border videotapes of car thieves that blow past the checkpoints with stolen cars. For some strange reason, a lot of these stolen vechicles find their way into the hands of government officials.
Now, if they only equipped politicians with detonation collars..
Lisp is the Tengwar of programming languages.
In Spanish, doy already means "I give". Adding yo places additional emphasis on the subject, roughly in the same manner as the "I for one" of the original Simpsons quote from 1F13. The phrase dar la bienvenida a means to welcome a guest physically; the more metaphoric term connoting approval would be recibir bien. It would also seem that superseñores translates "overlords", and Google backs this up as well as cibernéticos for "cybernetic". Thus I suggest: "Yo recibo bien a los superseñores cibernéticos."
But I may be wrong as well. Has the episode been dubbed or subbed into Spanish?
If I were him, I would have implanted it in my appendix. Or maybe my tonsils, or my wisdom teeth, or that mole on my neck...
I get it.. so when he gets lost and someone takes him to an embassy, his government can come and get him, right?
Welcome to the net of 1000 lies. Upgrades are scheduled soon that should bring us to the 10,000 lies mark.
Hey, where's the implant you talked about that can't be removed. Oh, it's in my "so and so" and it can't be removed because it'll effect my function "so and so." Ok. And. Um. What's your point?
This is the type of technology in the Middle East we could desperately use with all the kidnappings. Use it to track people or baitem with certain weapons with Tags attached to them could certainly help in tracking movement of terrorist/rebels.
sounds like a challenge to me :)
To hell with human tagging subdermal or otherwise. Its inhuman.
While he may have said these things in an interview for whatever reasons the claims sound a little odd to me. He claims that he, "...can also be located at any moment anywhere I am," with this system. If you think about that claim he's saying this chip somehow communicates with receivers which can track him. It can't be a passive RFID chip as their would have to be readers everywhere to power it, so we might assume it's an active chip. Where is the network of readers in place to track him all over Mexico? Maybe we can assume it uses cell towers. Does mexico have the cell location technology in place in the towers yet? Also, if you have a cell phone you have probably charged it at least every few days. With just an ID to transmit, let's assume his battery lasts longer, maybe weeks. Is he inserting a battery in his arm every few weeks? I don't think so. He might be charging the thing through a pair of coupled coils? Even so, wet tissues and skin don't make for a great environment for a transponder. That's why we don't implant tags in cattle among other reasons. The tags in small pets can only be read within a few inches.
I think the current technology is just not up to this claim. Maybe the statement is an anti-kidnapping, psychological warfare tactic.
[-- Trust the Monkey --]
I agree. It's almost certainly 99% BS. Maybe there is an RFID-type chip in his arm for accessing that database, that's fairly moot. There are lots of exciting way to protect databases and none of them are 100%.
The tracing Mexico wide aspect is the tip off. Although everybody wants to think otherwise, I'm fairly sure that's just not technically possible.
Passive RFID style chips are good up to 9 meters max. Even at 100 times that, it'd be next to useless for nation wide tracking.
You can't stick a transponder of any decent power inside a person without a power supply.
It's a bluff trying keep him unkidnapped and privacy advocate types off his back.
This may sound ludicrous, but the US Government has plans to implant chips in 30,000 American workers who currently live in Saudi Arabia. I am not joking, and I am not making this up. One can only wonder how long it is until basic privileges (Such as financial transactions) in the USA are restricted to people with such a chip. You can imagine that Bush is not going to widely publicise these plans for such reasons. Welcome to the "terrorist" state.
MEXICO WILL SOON BE RULED ENTIRELY BY CYBORGS. Is nobody noticing this? I mean, we can finally scratch an entry off the list of "things that we would have expected to happen in the 21st century". We may not have flying cars or meals in pill form yet, but at least Mexico is now living in the plot of a comic book.
[Mexican mecha-attorney general] With this new microchip I have had implanted in me, I have become more powerful than ever imagined. I can track my movements, as well as access a new crime database.
[Reporter] But Señor Macedo, aren't you worried about there being ill effects?
[Mexican mecha-attourney general] Yes, that's why I have also had an "inhibitor chip" installed, so that I control the RFID chip-- instead of it controlling me.
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According to this article on La Cronica
En este caso, reiteró que él ya tiene colocado el chip, al igual que los subprocuradores de la Procuraduría General de la República (PGR), y explicó que también tienen este sistema, estrictamente, el personal de mando superior y personal que tiene acceso a la información.
Roughly trasnlated it's not just him but also other high level officials already have the chip, although it doesn't state who. If you read further on he also goes to say he has had it for quite some time now but only recently with the ignauration of the Nationcal Center of Information for the Safeguard of Justice (Or something?) he revealed the chips existance.
Just would like to point that out, first didn't believe the story since I read the local newspaper daily (fine i read the e-version of it but it still counts) and I didn't find anything about this, and then looked on a national newspaper and found nothing either...wasn't until I google'd that I found this article and tought I'd bring it up.
Yoko out.
FASA should sue the Mexican government, since they came up with this idea ages ago. Shadowrun has to be prior art. ;)
This is not so that the goverment can track citizens. Is so that Mexican citizens can track their law enforcement assholes.
NO SIG
Maybe he'll be tracked down by confused Japanese parents...
By the Mexican Mafia.... which is powerfull enough to buy really tough lobby groups in the US senate (not that it takes anything else than money to do that, but it does take a lot of it).
The AG says (im a mexican duh!) this is for his own safety. He probably thought this up himself.
That said, i hate the fucker. Actually, those quotes about mexican officials divulgating US treasury information point directly to this guy, whose party, the same as that now in power at the federal government used this confidential info in a smear campain against the major of mexico city back in may.
Im all for the major of Mexico City.... if you ask me, the CIA (who is not in favor of the major of mexico city) put this info in the AG hands to give the nice Fox government a 'hand' in securing power for the conservatives.
Heh... i guess you have to be a mexican to care or understand it... but then, thats what a public forum is for!
NO SIG
Ya know, I'm tired of the relentless attack on our president. He's not a fascist, he's not a racist, he's not stupid, and he's not bent on taking over the world or the world's oil. I didn't like it when Clinton was relentlessly attacked, and I certainly don't like it now that GWB is given ten times as much. No one called Clinton Hitler. I find it odd that those that stuck up for Clinton and said the attacks were wrong are the same ones that hammer Bush day in and day out. Get off it already. Bush is not Hitler. Bush has not killed 6 million Jews (or any other race for that matter... Saddam has BTW). Bush did not invade France, Belgium, Russia, Poland etc. All the countries "invaded" by the US under Bush were turned back over to local government control, not turned into states or territories. Bush is not Hitler, I don't care how hard you try to make the comparison. Example of hypocracy: Why is it peopel bitch and moan because Bush went into Iraq, (no threat to US? intelligence said otherwise... do a google for russian intelligence iraq attack US.. or just open http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/06/18/0 12.html) yet no one said a word when Clinton bombed the snott out of Bosnia without UN or France's approval. If you are going to be that hyporcritical, at least try to be more sly about it!
Yeah, it's OT... just responding to another OT post.
There is no "I disagree" mod for a reason. Flamebait, Troll, and Overrated are not substitutes.
hmm what about torture? what about killing children and innocent civilians? etc... bush is worse than hitler. i hope he will loose in the elections. if they ever happen
Ditch plastic. Use cash.
Tracking him with a website would be great fun (a-la the Sims). Also handy for any potential assassin.
This will soon give hasta la vista, a new mening.
"... you killed my fahthair, prepare to die."
BEEP.
"Um, no, sorry, you're not."
"Que? My name Inigo Mon-"
BEEP.
"See, my PDA with built-in arm-scanner says you're not. You're Frank Thompson, from Akron, Ohio. Oh, and your moustache is falling off."
"..."
ok, i can understant that the device can send some signal to point out the postition of the officer... but how the hell does the officer has the claimed access to the "huge crime data bank" as all articles suggest?
Is it transmited to his mind? does it have a speaker?
also, if it's unremoveable, how does the officer know if its really turned off if he gives up his carrer? will he be tracked forever?
besides that, what about the security of those things? would the mafia came up with a device that detects policeman and avoid them?
...oppose this. I'm a hardcore atheist and I will refuse to be implanted with any such technology. In addition to privacy concerns, I've been -- for years now -- hearing doomsay cultists say that such things are coming, that the "Mark" will be forced upon us in the form of a chip, that a computer in Switzerland called "The Beast" will keep track of us all. I absolutley refuse to be a part of a system that proves those nutcases right.
STOP MISUSING APOSTROPHES, YOU MORONS!!!
That scene in Minority Report is wrong on so many levels.
For one, if the eye was disconnected from his head for any period of time the retina would detach and thus it could not be used to open the door.
And even more obvious flaw is, why the fuck would his eye still open the door anyways? The guy has is being manhunted for murder; you would think the very first thing the authorities would do is delete all his access codes to police data; otherwise why couldn't he justt log into the system and remove himself?
It could be designed such that once activated, it needs to be constantly imp[lanted or else it triggers a self-destruct type of action. If it was being powered via a bio-mechanical type of mechanism ( ie, bloodflow ), then seconds after you removed it the device could detct it was no longer implanted and disable itself.
Even a believer has no desire to see the end times. The Bible speaks of much suffering of all, both believers and non, of such ferocity that many so-claimed believers will actually forsake their faith.
On the other hand, a believer who dies before the end times will go to heaven without having to suffer.
They start using new technology to thwart kidnappers and gain access to a "secret" database. Then, they announce it to all the world, so the kidnappers can locate him, kidnap him, and then rip the chip out of his arm with a bowie knife, thus gaining a "key" to the "secret" database.
Stupid is as stupid does.
"Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect."- Steven Wright
He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Revelation 13:16-17
A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."
Revelation 14:9-11
The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly and painful sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped his image.
Revelation 16:2
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Revelation 20:4
I am a Christian and this stuff does concern me. We have the technology to make prophecy come true.
All he needs is the micro-salsa and micro-guacamole!
Ole!
Hello. It's just after 8:00, and time for the politician on top of your television set to explode.
Similarly, doesn't the Bush Administration support an expansionist and defiant Isreal because it is a necessary condition for the Second Coming?
The chips would enable the wearer to be found anywhere inside Mexico, in the event of an assault or kidnapping, said Macedo.
And kidnapping is a huge problem here. From 1992 to 2002, Mexico saw some 15,000 kidnappings, second only to war-torn Colombia, according to the Inter-American Development Bank.
Crime fighting is a dangerous business in Mexico, where police are notoriously corrupt and where political figures and investigative journalists sometimes risk assassination.
If the authorities, such as the police, are notoriously corrupt and the chips would enable the wearer to be found anywhere inside Mexico, how can this provide security against kidnapping? I'd think it would make it easier for a criminal organisation to find where the government official is through corrupt contacts, and kidnap them! They would be vulnerable to political rivals in the government as well.
This isn't going to prevent them from being kidnapped, but would make it much easier. And all the kidnappers would need to do is stick the official in a Faraday cage to prevent them from being tracked. The kidnappers would have to lock them up in a room anyway. Couldn't a car trunk be easily converted into a Faraday cage? And what about simply using a magnet, electric shock, or dismemberment to disable the chip?
So not only would the official be more vulnerable to kidnapping, but the kidnapping process would have to involve more confinement and torture to circumvent the chip. Brilliant. However, it would make it easier to find the body after the official is murdered.
A sudden rash of Mexican officials having their arms cut off and the "secret" database being accessed and hacked. Nice business model folks!
1. Implant security chip in arm, tell world about it
2. Be found anywhere
3. Access Secure database via chip
4. Rebels cut off arm
5. ???
6. No Profit! Country in disrepair..
Oh wait...
-Goran
Carpe Scrotum - The only way to deal with your competition.
And all these years we've been using silicon implants :(
"Imagine a Beowulf cluster of Mexican Attorney Generals" post?
cheap labor conservatives - they want to keep you hungry enough to be thankful for minimum wage.
...what's stopping an inventive criminal from just cutting off his arm?
The most merciful thing in the world is the inability of the human mind to correlate its contents.
cheap labor conservatives - they want to keep you hungry enough to be thankful for minimum wage.
in Matthew 16:26-27, Jesus says:
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
He's saying that it's not possible for the majority of a country to be below average intelligence; therefore the person making such an assumption must not be intelligent.
It is, however, quite possible for the majority of people who vote for a certain candidate to be of below average intelligence. In the case of Bush, it's actually NECESSARY for the majority of his voters to be of below-average intelligence.
In fact, from the 2000 election, we can conclude two things:
1) Because Gore did win the popular vote, even some people of below average intelligence still voted for him.
2) There are more people of below average intelligence in rural states, but Florida is too close to call.
paintball
To remove the microchip, I think all you need to do is simply cut off both arms. Problem solved.
The Mexican Bar association is investing in devlopment and financing of prosthetic replacement arms. "We expect to to need many, many new arms in the future."
-- Jose Oryo Horchata Conchita Banana Pepe Don Diego Vasquese
I hope this chip is somewhat upgradeable ? Why even bother with an implant when the technology is so young, it is bound to be obsolete in his own lifetime or much sooner.
"Civilian contractors". I hate that term. They're mercenaries. They are being paid to do work that the military traditionally do but can't/won't.
Would the last one out of Mexico please turn off the lights.
I wonder, will authorities like to deactivate the chip even after the tenure is over? May be they want to monitor and blackmail him later, when he goes on to selling secrets.. :-)
As a side thought, I was wondering if these electronic chips implanted in his body --
- can damage the tissus around? afterall chips are made of certain material foreign to body.
- can the OS or other software running on these chips can be infected by electronic viruses transmitted over wireless? and then have funny/dangerous repurcussions arising out of that.
what do fellow slashdotters think?
This has always bugged me about RFID's... are they not incredibly insecure? As far as I understand, they 'reflect' a certain signature, kind of like... license plates on a car, except with a bit of high-tech in there. This isn't private/public key encryption scheme to verify the authenticity, this is a signature that's accessible to anyone that can get near you with a relatively small reader...
this may only give a false sense of security
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