Those mesh network things are a good idea too, I like them, the concept, however, you need people in reasonable proximity all the way to the fat pipes internet someplace. A lot of rural places you will wind up with areas that no one can reach the net with any sort of big bandwith. You'll be stuck running your whole network through some dialup modem, or someone eats the T-1. Around here they are close to one grand per month,last I looked anyway. I don't know many folks who would want to spend 100$ to 200$ to 300$ a month to have broadband. Or be happy with just a big local wan of 12 houses max or something spread out over many square miles. In suburbia around some big metro area, all across an area like that, swell, oodles of access points and enough people in it so it's a miniature full internet all by itself. Ya got your multi thousands of points in a mesh in some extended metro area, or 12 or 4 or something potential points. Example, my neighborhood, less than 10 houses all around for any distance, and several big hills/baby mountains seperating them. Maybe 1/3 of those people might be interested enough for broadband access, WAG on my part. So either way, still not happening, I just like seeing the solutions that ARE working someplace, because eventually someone is going to pull it off, or maybe uncle sugar will free up some spectrum or let more powerful transmitters be used OR SOMETHING. No one is in any hurry to run cable, fiber or anything else. MY idea was some sort of aimed point to point thingee relay that bolted to the existing telephone poles, then you only need them on the turns in the road. I haven't seen anything like that yet, some small doodad that bolts on and is wireless and real cheap and can be made easily self powered with a small solar panel perhaps. Fantasy device so far.
Coverage might suck too, whatever you use with radio waves, some folks on hilltops, some in the valleys, and the valleys won't even get new cell phones working right now, if you are driving and need to make a call you learn fast to STOP and pull over at the top of a hill, so I'm not sure any of the mesh stuff would work all that great, or even this other technique. I know my FRS radios are dismal if there's a hill in the way between the partys using them, and those have more wattage i believe than the other devices are allowed. heck, even non modded CBs suck. 2 meters work ok at high(er) wattages, that's about it. THAT'S the big problem, the low power that is allowed *by de law* and rough terrain. Unless every part of your mesh can afford a huge tower. If you can do that, go satellite, it's the same thousand dollars or more, and probably faster and you don't have to dork with it much. Let alone this lightning deal that exists.
nice setup man, I bookmarked your html page. I like the cheap aspect of it. You also seemed to have gotten a deal on that T-1. Questions? what kind of range are you getting off that 90 foot tower, and is the tower itself on a hill much higher than your customers? Are the hills (and tress I guess)affecting coverage? Last, how many are you serving or do you think you can serve?
Rural broadband needs to be done, and waiting for some mythical perfect solution is that..waiting.And waiting. And waiting. It is teh suxors. Satellite internet is teh big bucks suxors.
It's a gimme none of the big guys are going to do it any time soon, so small mom and pops or co-ops wil have to be it, and I've been accumulating various web references and whatnot to see what's working. Yours is a nice simple *(relatively) description and write up, good job! I hope this gives some geeks some ideas on self employment, plus helping small communities, rather than sending out dozens of resumes for months and months to these big corporations. Work is work, and the rural areas are much cheaper to live in usually most places, much less crime, and other sorts of goodness, and MOST of them have zero broadband for sale.
Yaaay! Let's rev up those CS flammable poison gas injecting tanks and ram more homes and burn people alive then machine gun the ones seeking to escape! Yaay! US Justice- an equal opportunity incinerator!
Yaaay! Lets spray concentrated poison from aircraft over huge areas of third world rice farmers that causes death and birth defects into at least three generations!
Yaaay! Lets spray the same poison over huge areas of south america to knock out the business rivals of "our" drug smugglers of the week! Yaaay!
Yaaay! Lets order our veterans to undergo testing with chemical biological and radiological agents,including direct injections, drug them with experimental drugs with known long lasting side effects,let them watch their children be born with half an arm and no eyes on their face, watch them murder their families in fits of forced-drugging induced rage, then tell them IT'S ALL IN THEIR HEADS when they get sick and die, and refuse to provide any of the medical care they were promised! Yaaay!
Yaaay!
You live in the hypocritical united states of amnesia, friend
The big main benefit of fuel cells (especially in devices like phones/pdas/laptops or there are the same thing anymore) are two, and an obvious two:
Your %^&*ing batteries don't wear out and have to be replaced, frequently at a cost of more than something new, meaning some landfill waste, and the dead batteries themselves are mucho icky. This also means the devices have a much longer practical use lifespan,so they won't be replaced as often, which will force manufacturers to emphasize quality & reliability & easy internal upgradeability over blinkenlights & bloat-auge & casual tossability
FAST "recharge" time. FAST as in not hours or even minutes, but in under a minute tops to full power
ALSO, this makes the concept of fuel cells get to joe consumer, that it's viable. For instance, it is trivially easy and cheap to make your own fuel at home, ethanol or methane for example, either of which are quite clean fuels. This causes mindshare, the experimental mindset, acceptance of new technologies, more R&D leading to larger scale, more decentralised power (read, kill the monopolies) and so on and so forth.
downsides are....ummm....hmmm..... precious metals used for catalysts go up in value? Nice investment opportunity there...
guess I have no idea how this works then. What is the big difference between sending generic what~have~you "data" over vast distances with fiber optics and sending "quantum encrypted" data, that makes this distance limit? I read about the turbo charged photons in the article, still makes no sense to me, aren't all the data streams with fiber based on photons anyway? Is it of an acceptable loss limit thing (zero acceptable?), or what?
thanks in advance to anyone who can explain this for us pea brains
slashdot is fun, there's a head 'sploder for me everyday!
No, didn't download the PDF. I see no need, it's an obvious cover up scam in advance.
With that said, it's not broke, and there's no need to fix it. This attempt is a fancy way to have yet again another CYA deal for "saving money" and maximizing profits at consumers expense, and avoiding responsibility. The only proven "lesser of various legitimate evils" method is the one that is used now where the exploit is noted, the vendors are notified, then the general public. At best I'd say a few hours or 24 hours, or skip it and release it if it's in the wild already. Having an open ended patch time is what it appears to be, a way for the profitable vendors to delay fixing and treat bugs and exploits amd to treat them as minor issues. They've been doing that forever,obvious as all get out to even a casual observer, the other way just works better, that's what the empirical evidence shows. Both ways have sucky things to them, the current way of almost immediate public notice just sucks less. And the main reason WHY is that individualk consumers of said product can make up their minds based on severity of threat if they should alter or take down critical systems before they get hosed. That's THEIR business, NOT the business of the random software vendors they got their software from.
Vulnerabilites exist, so there needs to be maximum pressure put on the software vendors to patch, with no consideration to lost profits. No other industry gets that dodge, it's time for it to end. Closed source, expensive and propietary has long passed it's "new industry" honeymoon period they were given of being given slack on liability issues. Open source and free is a totally different animal, it's completely different. As soon as you give them any open ended time period wiggle room, the bean counters will step in and delay patches, and they also allow release of unproven and usually bugy stuff, again, profits over liability. It's been proven so many times now this should be a no brainer. That's the main reason there still exist huge holes, profits over quality and liability at every chance. That's the evolutionary shift that's needed, profits are OK, but should be secondary to quality of product released as "production quality" to the consumers. If software company A doesn't care about that, that shows their over all mindset. Companies that make billions and still foist "caveat emptor" on their consumers are doing a gross disservice to the public in general, and having it some sort of standard or law that they can sit on exploits and bugs forever and be ho hum about it is negligence to the public. It's time to get past that notion. A patch can be likened to a tangible good RECALL, if they just called them that, just use a different word, maybe it would make more sense to them and consumers. I will guarantee you, if any normal product sitting on the shelf gets enough recalls, that product is REMOVED from the market, you aren't allowed to sell it any longer. WHICH IS IT? I read this here all the time, "My blah blah version blah blah is just a tool and etc" CORRECT! It's a tool, and if you keep selling a tool to the public that constantly breaks and needs a recall,or is so flimsy it falls apart with normal use, it's DEFECTIVE MERCHANDISE and shouldn't be allowed to be sold. Can't do it? Tough luckski then, open source and free it,as in speech and beer, or move on to another business that you might be competent at..
IMO, back to bugs and exploits, it also needs to be released as soon as possible so that many more people can help with the patches and fixing, too, the "open source" method is by far superior in most instances.
OR, these closed source software vendors can accept the SAME liability that tangible products have, and be LIABLE for damages. They want to call their software a "product", they want their IP to be patentable and copyrightable and whatnot to have huge megabucks level financial value,they are lightning quick to use their lawyers to defend their products, GREAT, NO PROBLEMS if that is what they
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hehehehe that comment of mine sure has garnered some interest. I don't think there's an URL anyplace, but I can describe her as I remember her. About 5' 8" , 130 lbs or so, curvy as ya need, face very similar to a young version angelica houston (near as I can get with a public figure person), but with that amazing pretty hair, down to her butt, very straight and fine. Now you'll just have to fantasize.
She was interesting ethnicicity background, her mom was a direct immigrant, from northern italy, and was a blonde, her dad was a second generation finnish immigrant, also a blond. I learned to make finnish pancakes from her, pure cholesterol tasty goodness, and some italian stuff I don't remember the names of anymore. It wasn't like the italian stuff you would be most familiar with, it was closer to german styled food, probably from that tyrolean I guess it is influence of her mom, that style of cooking. Good eats, and good treats!
..is because they have rubber stamped the dominant broadcasters licenses from day one, and given them a license to print money and spew disgusting propaganda that on any given day is usually 10% truth, 90% lies. Not one time has a major network been told "no,you've had your turn,you abused these *public* airwaves severely, time to give someone else a chance at it" No matter how bad the shows got, or how biased or fluffed out the news got,or how many complaints they got, STAMP! License to continue. Jokeski, I think they suck.. Complete total generations long rubber stamped monopolies with ties into government and the same old cast of fatcats, now for generations. They are so similar to each other as to make them "the same" in practical terms,and very generally speaking.
But, the same bunch of bribed GOONS will jump all over some small guy with his 10 watt alternative news and views radio someplace, even if he isn't interfering on any "assigned" channel.
The FCC is a tool of the goons, the power/establishment "elite",and always has been. Now, it will just be "moreso".
Sure, let them take the publics property and once again sell it back to you, the public, somehow. that's what they have always done, why should they stop?
I can name one country where a huge variety of normal tangible goods are still manufactured, and the workers work for "almost" free, and that is the US, where prison industries now use inmate labor in direct competition to "normal" free market workers. And I definetly don't mean license plates, I mean normal stuff you buy at the store like furniture and whatnot. And it's run by private, for-profit corporations. Hard to compete when you have a tax payer subsidised infrastructure,ie the prisons, and where the forced workers "make" like 10 cents an hour or something that they get to re spend back into the same private corporations prison stores. Add in the fact of the growing prison population due to more political-like crimes such as represented as the war on some drugs, and yes, there are places where the workers work for "free". I also just read an article last week or so, maybe here, I've forgotten, where prisoners in India are being used as forced programmers.
As to software, oh well. I think eventually (I have no exact time prediction, just some time in the somewhat near future) that software writing as a pure and extremly profitable business will eventually be very limited. That's primarily because right now we already have available most of the software that is required to do business, it exists already when you get down to it. Next is to take the automation concept to it's logical progression, the tools to write programs are getting easier, there are millions more very young people now who take it as a matter of course to learn these the same as "shop class' was when I was a kid and most guys my age can do a lot of normal car mechanics and carpentry, etc, and eventually those two lines on a graph of easy to do and millions doing it will cross and we'll have a full saturation point, where at that exact time the "worth" of software will be no more than todays throw away newspaper, so cheap as to be almost free. And the ones remaining still writing a lot will be doing it as at best an adjunct to their other and more primary job task, whatever that is, or doing it as a hobby, similar to learning to play a musical instrument is now, most people never make a cent from enjoying playing music. I'm not saying it-softweare writing to get back to it- will disappear,not in the least, just lose it's incredible profitable market share. Look back in that industry 40 or 50 years, see what people were paid for it and what the companies doing it were charging,and how many people by the numbers were doing it (take into consideration COL and inflation obviously), and now look at today-globally, you are forced to, now extrapolate it.
Ain't looking as rosy now is it? Especially with the amazing geometric progression.
I give it as a rough WAG to the commercial expensive software writing and selling bubble will burst within ten years or so (maybe less even), the high paid stuff anyway, and settle back down to a more normal type endeavor, not be quirte as sexy or in demand. I also think that people in that business and who are still paid well are (mostly and sure to be very much debated on this particular forum, but not on general forums) in just as much denial today of that prediction as various people were when they were buying stocks from companies that were trading at 200 times earnings and still sat on them, thinking this was going to just keep going on forever, even when on even a casual glance anyone could see these various companies had no net earnings whatsoever once you deducted VC. Millions of sane, intelligent adults fell for that, too, they were in complete denial of economic realities, because they (not all obviously, but most) were basking in temporary and theoretical future "wealth" they would receive magically,effortlessly, and forever. that gravy train was going to go on forever, that was the gross generic mindset then. Right now, it's the same mindset with various other aspects of industry, I'd say in particular besides software the professional managers in various industries, who think they are
Those two particular examples, saddam and osama- were supported first and foremost because they were and still are business partners with certain very high level politicians and their associated international corporations, and I'll include most nations central level "intelligence" and "police" organizations as way more corporate mercenaries than what they attempt to pass themselves off as. They are part of the muscle for these various crime cartels. It's a sweet deal for them because they get paid at BOTH ends. They get paid-usually by confiscated tax dollars once you follow the economics around-to create these problems. Then, after the problems *mysteriously* get out of control, they get paid to go in and "fix" them. Lather rinse repeat, they've been doing it a long time because it's a huge global scale sized political and economic scam that works, and it works fantastically well. Take it back an entire century and research it, see who the major funders were of the various sides in ww1 and 2 for more examples. You'll find out it was a lot of the same people-orgs/cartels/dynastys really-who funded all the sides in various ways. They've been laughing at the rubes (how they see most of us and how we are treated and conned) who keep falling for it, for generations now.
no probs, welcome. I'm not a windows guy so it's hard for me to remember all the arcanity involved with these dialer things, but I had a good friend who got nailed with something similar last year, and he was highly embarrassed but was stuck so I researched it, had decent results with google and found the removal sequence, and was able to clean his machine. And I saw the infection vector, it was a normal spam he got, and he had his mail program just execute it semi automagically near as I could see. I also told him to dispute heck out of his phone bill if they insisted on ridiculous long distance charges due to what is in essence a buggy computer system and getting hacked with a virus. And this guy runs paid-for firewall and virus scanner, too, not just the cheaper freebies, and still got it. I was prepared to document all the steps that had happened for him to use in his defense and dispute of bill, but luckily the phoneco was understanding, I think they had already received tons of complaints on it. I can't remember the exact name of the bug now though, but it was similar to this one IIRC, and it was definetly german porn that it accessed, that part I remember.
Personally, I think nowadays the best "distro" for joe average home surfer is to run one of those "live" cd things like knoppix or whatever, to not even have an operating system installed at all on the hard drive, and have it set up as a full "no write to nothing" sort of computer. Fast chips, huge amounts of ram, and that's about it. It's getting to the point that anything, any flavor OS, is just too complicated and too open to bugs du juor for security purposes. To USE that's a different story, all of them "work" plenty good enough to use, really, to KEEP SECURE is another thing entirely. It's only a matter of time now, when, not if, before some superworm takes down most of the computers on the net, something that will work on various OSes simultaneously and bust through normal scanners and firewalls and even take the sophisticated sysadmins unawares, all the way to critical nameservers. In fact, I bet it's already written, just not released yet. That's a pure WAG though I admit. I'll prename it, the armageddon blitzkrieg worm. (hope I haven't stolen a name there), because that's the effect it will have.
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you are correct. It is all our duty to do what we can--as long as we are "allowed" to. The trends now are most ominous, and the technology available to the oppressors is most advanced. And I don't dispute we have foreign enemies who seek to subvert us,but I would also point out we have domestic enemies who appaear to sometimes support those outsiders, and other times they seem to be acting more as a general criminal gang who forge temporary alliances with other gangs, then double cross them, same as any other lower level gangs we might read about. It becomes quite complex to sort out the players, and I am suspicious of even the very high level "organized" protests that you can read about. Here is a great example, very current, the recent G8 protests. Huge coverage, etc, BUT, the much more important meeting of the international pirates was the week previous, the "bilderburg" conference, which still barely gets a mention and definetly had no protest associated with it.
I remember clearly protests in the 60's, was there. What I also remember was how I became disillusioned with a lot of them, from discovering how infiltrated a lot of the organizations were, with mercenaries hired by the "man" to use the slang term, and how often the "violence" aspect of the protests was initiated by them. I have since learned that this continues to this day, that it has only become more sophisticzated an extensive. I even have a personal friend who quit being a cop from his disgust over all he learned about it, when they sought to recruit him into these secret mercenary gangs to be tools for this power elite. it is very extensive,and crosses into the military. They actually have enough power to influence what gets protested and what doesn't,and how the protest evolves, again, look back to the lack of protest or much media coverage of the bilderburgs, or other star chamber like groups. They sort of "allow" and encourage looking at the lower levels of international power and command and control politics, and are fairly good at keeping the heat off the upper levels. These elites maintain the stranglehold of their "two party 'system'" although no where in the constituion is any mention of this system, and to be even more contrary, the founders almost universally (most, not all of course) warned against the dominance of any party, urging independents. We also have the problem of the very large well funded mass media being at the top composed of members of these high level controller groups, a clear conflict of interest, which is reflected in news coverage over the years. I have seen too many examples of really big news being ignored by ALL the major sources that most people use, which clearly shows it is coordinated at stratrospheric levels, even between what are apparently more "left" or "right" wing sources. the manipulative powers are awesome, but they always default to bigger and bigger centralised command and control.
So, the vote is hosed, now it's a hacked computer mess, it's gone basically, our various legislatures are bribed and blackmailed off, the media on any large scale is compromised, the economy is hijacked by professional counterfetiers masquerading as central banks and by loan sharks posing as "lenders" to entire nations, the "market" is run by sophisticated smakeoil salespeople, again, tied to the previous criminal gangs, and the entrenched bureaucracy in government is virtually untouchable, there's no remedy from abuse.
I see *some* hope, but not really from just a continuation of the levels most people are happy with now or work at, and even at that level, the numbers are just too small now, there is less interest than there was decades ago in constructive change for the better it appears, at least from my ballpark glances at it. I see those efforts like we see now as just going along with the divide and conquer mind set that the high level controllers encourage people to settle at.
And to be clear, no way do I claim to have all of the planetary "big picture", I don't, I doubt even the very h
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It sure felt like buhzillions! You have to remember, too, as you are carrying this weight, it's also the distances involved in walking back and forth. Chicken houses are at least 300 feet long, those were closer to 500 if I am remembering correctly. The last ones I worked at, earlier this year and late last year (different job, part time weekends picking eggs), are 400 feet long. Now walk back and forth all night long inside that distance, 50% of the time carrying six cluckers, ya, it gets into the real physical work range. It has to be many miles of walking carrying weight in your hands. And that doesn't count the slipping and falling down and getting slimed part either. Tell you, we should be thankful that our chickens at the store or restaurant are still so inexpensive to purchase given the work combined with the extremely dismal pay at that end of the industry. The workers in the plants have it fairly rough as well. Personally,it wouldn't bother me a bit if chickens only costed 25 or 50 cents more, and that loot got distributed to the people doing the really nasty work, they sure would appreciate it.
I have mixed feelings on the machine in the article, I understand that automation is here to stay, I also feel it's necessary to keep some sort of actual contact with the idea that these are living creatures, and should be treated with the idea of compassionate husbandry, and the physical contact (somewhat) between human and stock critter I think helps that process. They claim the machines are more humane, maybe, they certainly eliminate some jobs, but create others. I'd have to see one working, I never have, so I really can't tell if it's as rosy as they make it out for the birds.
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I was with her about 2.5 years or so. She went away to art school,then switched and went into nursing, We both drifted apart, not enough day to day seeing each other, both young people, etc, we found new friends. We stayed cordial. She was a fox, one of only two girls I ever met who had that naturally "white" sort of blond hair.
...but I have now. Interesting read, albeit a hard text to follow for me older eyes.
I am most wondering now, with no possible way to find out, how he would differentiate todays "copying" with his ages copying. Notice he makes a distinction between derivative works, even exact renderings, because they take labor and media, as opposed to recited works,vocal speech. He classes them different, and I am guessing because there was no true way to actually store them then, or to reproduce them on any media, they needed human effort for each use of a work, they had to be recited. Now this is quite possible, so I imagine he would alter his analysis. Also, he seems fixated on potential damages, ie, it's all based (more or less) on the assumption that the transference of legal power to the editor would be based on remuneration. that seems over emphasized to me, but it's understandable from most peoples point of view.
The point I most agreed with,if I may make an attemtp at paraphrasing here, was the moral and legal imperative for the editor to actually carry out the creators wishes, to get the works out to the public, in such a manner as to be *efficient*, and to fail in that duty is to abbrogate the trust and contract. this is an extreme key point and part of the counter argument that the file copiers of today site, ie, "the means to publish/deliver product exist to make it extremely cheap and still profitable,merely by allowing more precise product isolation and choice, and by the means of delivery,and the editors and publishers ignored that for years and years, they violated their contract of a sorts both to the artist creator and to the eventual consumer public". This is just true facts. That point seems to apply to today, where the big publishers seek to actually hinder dissemination, and seek indemnity against the now legitimate "counterfeiters", who claim from their side that the structure of the published copies being offered by todays editors and publishers violates the efficiency of what is available, in effect, the publishers have failed in their contract with the artist/creator, so in that sense they may not be considered counterfeiters.
In essence,and I hope I got this and am clear on it, the originator owns the work. He may choose what to do with it. He may assign legal rights to make copies. It is the new copiers duty to follow the contract and edit and publish if this is the contract. A non legitimate copy from another is an illegal counterfeit, but not against the artist, only against the publisher. An *apparent* non legitimate copy may be re classified as legitimate IF the assigned publishers have failed to do an adequate job of publishing and dissemination based on their ability to do so, if they fail to use due vigilance, which we can assume is to use the best available technology of mass production.
I don't have any major problems with those concepts. It is after all about choice. I would also like to say I would hope that all creators would seek to work towards maximum exposure with the least cost, and to obtain their "profits" from that, or to take profits by THEIR aquisition of others creations, an advanced distributed quid pro quo barter like system, in short, pure swapping or sharing.
I would rather skip the intermediary third party publisher/editor, I think that is the main difference now with our technology, that middle man step is no longer needed all that much. the creators have all the source tools they need to also publish all the copies they want and to distrivute. this is actually a much better deal for the creators. it's fat city really, well, it would be if everyone else did it, the way it is now half and half with a conglomeration of almost this or that is sort of unwiedly. I would put that to the rapid advances of technology more than anything else. That makes the distribution much cheaper, down to free in theoretical cost, or so close as to be neglible.
There's two basic choices for the creators now, with the caveat of the publisher/editor bec
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!11!! I've DONE this job, lots, catching chickens in the dark and putting them in cages. It's one of the "fowl"er jobs out there. If at all possible, it's scheduled on new moon nights,or as close as possible, as dark as possible. On one farm where I worked doing this (back early 70's,pure fox platinum blonde farmers daughter, weekend job, etc, you know how it is....), we'd even ride up in the front end loader and put a hood over the public street light on the road out front, to further make it darker. The darker it is, the less they freak out. Next, the farmer, who was a closet alky and hid bottles from his old lady all over the farm, would give all us young fool morons dragooned into this cluck burger transportation service multiple shots of his wild turkey. Thus fortified, we are off! You slide into the chicken house, bend over, feel along the floor, find a chicken leg and snatch it, holding it with one finger, you find another, and another, three in each hand finally, for a total of 6. Then you trudge outside to the truck, load these now non-sleepy bundles of flapping indignation into wooden cages, then someone else would stack the cages. Back and forth and forth and back, on into the wee hours. This was BUHZILLIONS of chickens per chicken house, usually over 20,000 or so. That farm was slightly different from the story, these were egg layers going to the battery cages, before that, free ranging in open houses. Same deal though, ya gots to get cackleberry squatter from point A to B. Each chicken ran around 6-7 lbs. Do the math by the end of the night of what you probably carried in livestock tonnage, maybe 4 or 5 guys doing it.
I think I made a whopper 2 clams an hour back then. If it wasn't for that girl, well, I just don't know how long I would have done that job...
I am not clear on one point. If I am incorrect, my apologies in advance of course. Are we to understand the entire corporate "official" mindset and policy so far is to be "leech and profit" only? IF so, it's simple, tell them it just ain't cool to only be a leech. They are cutting their own throat in the long run, and don't "get" the *full* concept of open and free software.
It's bad karma, man. Tell 'em that. Sharing goes both ways, or it won't work forever. Eventually no one is gonna wanna play nicey nice with you, back to struggling, watching the bigger fish come and get ya. The whole idea is strength and success and over-all profitability through cooperation and sharing. Just "taking" don't cut that software mustard.
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nice group of thoughts! I think I can describe it simply. We don't have a legitimate government, we have rule by international corporate edict that is filtered by the illusion of an elected representative government. that's what's wrong and it's so extensive now as to be virtually unfixable.
I'm all for a secession from this corporate bastardized version of "USA Inc" as it stands now. I'm not against business, I'm not against making a buck, I AM against powerful international pirates masquerading as "patriotic americans" and ruling us by stealth fiat from secret star chambers. I could care less what language they speak as a first language, it's easy to spot some international screw everyone else I'm a citizen of the world, as opposed to a joe normal USian. I'm against them other gents, they have no use sitting in power, because first and foremost they aren't real patriots,or even honest, they are just power-mad and money=-centered nutcases, megalomaniacs.
We have the full complete *illusion* of constitutional law,wheras real law, designed to be simple and easily understood by anyone who had an average IQ and could understand the common language has evaporated, it's poofed. It also appears to have a direct relation to number of flags waved and "nuke the ay-rabs" statements and accumulated uses of the word "terrorist" or "terrorism" near as I can see.
"We are the government. Because we say (with our secret evidence) that bad guy person A wants to steal your freedoms, reluctantly we must steal your freedoms so badguy A won't get them". "We are the government. Because you might actually use technology, we now must take away your technology, it is all ours, and we will sell you permission slips and slap huge amounts of thooroughly incomprehesible regulations on that permission, and BTW, you don't own any real property, we own it all,including your very person, and lease it back to you at our leisure and we say what it will cost, and we have THE monopoly on that, and if you don't like it, tell it to the nice man with the tank and jail cell"
This is a government and economic society designed by yossarian. Catch 22 sources compiled with the "gotcha" compiler.
IP abominations are tip of the iceberg, on every front,we face assaults. I like writing on the IP issues, but really, I see that as just a percent or two of the entire problem. These... predatory creatures... posing as men, do it relentlessly, I cringe every day any "legislature" is in session, I am scared every time a "governor" or the so called "president" picks up an inkpen.
Although I don't 100% agree with the capital L Libertarian official version, I would say I am a small l type of person/independent constitutionalist, and as things stand now I fully support and admire the Freestate concept and plan,as it's the ONLY workable plan or idea I have seen anyone propose that has a whisker of a chance of stopping the big brother & global money pirates axis of command and control juggernaut and getting some sort of common sense and accountable government back in place. And the reason why that might be possible is it will take an entire state and all it's official authority and apparatus and support of it's citizens to be strong enough and steeled enough in their resove to say "NO! NO FURTHER, BACK THE HELL OFF, WAY, WAY BACK, OR ELSE!" to big brother.
The "or else" part is critical. There , I said it out loud.
It is going to get down to that, inevitable now, OR we will be total droned out shuffling with eyes averted down slaves of some international monster soon, you can see it, hear it and smell it coming.
It REALLY is going to get down to that,a full secession or a counter-coup to get the nation back from the bribers and strong armed conmen who seized it a long time ago. We are living under a military/bureaucratic dictatorship junta, lead by traitorus internationalists who could care less about anything except their "bottom line" and their hideous fetish of accumulation of raw power over ot
Not avaialble my area, outside flat rate coverage zone. sigh. I keep waiting for something to appear that is effortless internet access,I just do not want to have to buy extra cables and wires and cards and software voodoo the system to get to the dang internet, want flat rate, add the phone as you need it at a reasonable cost. This deal looks "close", real dang close, but not...quite...there yet because it's only in the same places that already have broadband and a huge choices of hardwired or wireless stuff. I couldn't even see if you could attach this to a laptop or desktop easy, which is another requirement, vast majority of time that's how it would be used for my purposes.
I use this whole cellphone/landphone/computer deal 99% internet, 1% voice. I frequently don't use the 600 anytime/anywhere minutes a month on the phone, but have to stay locked into a landline dialup, THAT never gets used for voice phone service. I WANT the cell because it's portable,say if you breakdown so bad you can't fix it yourself on some remote road or something, etc, and I don't need the dialup telephony or it's associatedbill at all, just some sort of data pipe to the internet, but that must come bundled, which fries my grits. Extra 35 clams a month on top of the net access bill of 20 clams so you can use the net at slow speed. Ridiculous.
I'm greatful I have it though, it's just sort of frustrating.
And their website (t-mobile) makes ya use javascript and eat cookies and have images turned on just to surf around in it. Hate when that happens, you'd THINK with a product like this they would have a low res text only no BS blinkenlights version of the site to USE with their own products. Maybe it's there, but I'm not seeing it.
Maybe what I want they don't even make. all I really want is some sort of dumb but functional wireless, cell phone coverage area internet appliance, if it does phone calls, swell, it doesn't need all that other jazz, I don't need games, schedulers, robotic carwashes, text messages, or anything like that, I'll sacrafice that for seamless wireless internet,at some sort of modest rate that's fair to both parties, a decent data transfer rate, because it's tiring to wait for this imaginary broadband and to pay for a landline phone you never use. If they can leave all that other stuff off the appliance and only charge 1004 for it, swell, I'd get their device and wireless data, but, not even avaialable here.
Oh ya, it has to run linux or blah blah blah, I don't care, just sell me that last dang mile wirelessly and EASILY with no crap attached to it, for a reasonable fee, that's good enough.
just MAYBE all this US infrastructure in the broadband area would become profitable if they would PLEASE just spend some more and FINISH the LAST MILE everywhere. There's a huge untapped market out there for broadband. And dig this! I just found out about an area around here that has NO internet being provided except for satellite, there's NO dialup even, let alone broadband. Knocked me socks off. Yes, small community, but hundreds of homes total. they got some dinky coop phone deal, but zero internet! akkk!and every place outside their little area is long distance. This is just rude. I was also visiting in a neighboring state, now this area is normal built up, thousands of people, real cities, etc, this pretty big area JUST last month got offered broadband from some provider, it's bottom of the barrel adsl service, 120$ for 40 hours a month!!!!!!!! I was talking to a big real estate guy there, he was relieved to just get it.
Those are some-not all but certainly some- of the reasons they say we have a "glut" of big pipes/infrastructure and they aren't profitable, there's tens of thousands of square miles (or more, but it's in every state of the nation) and millions and millions of people all over who couldn't purchase the product even if they wanted to. The last mile ain't there. Seems lame as all get out to put all this other expensive stuff in, then not do the last %^^&%&^ mile. I am just amazed it continues, this is 2003, not 1995. I mean, once it's in, doesn't fiber or good cooper or coax cable last like decades or more? Or are all these companies just worried about this years profits, not seeing the really big picture here. Suppose they had done that with POTS, just skipped the last mile? Of course it would have never worked. This is the US, not some third world place, there's little reason to not have this stuff built, if they could get rid of some of the more stoopid local monopoly laws, and if INVESTORS were truly INVESTING for the long haul, and not acting like a big group of pure gambling something for nothing day traders.
I had no idea it was that high. That's a scandal if I ever heard of one, it's obscene. "Print on demand" for dead tree editions needs to take off more, help solve excessive costs and excessive wastes. Recycling paper sounds good, but it sure borks a huge amount of valuable fresh water, and uses energy. Better to not even have to do it in the first place, methinks, print only what is needed.
I have another pet peeve, and a possible solution to a big problem, going back to fresh water. Homes and buildings have both grey water and brown water waste systems. I see no reason to use expensive clean freshwater to flush away brown water. There should be small tanks installed in homes and other buildings that take the gray water from the house,store a reasonable amount, and use that for flushing. All gray water is, is soapy water basically. We could save literally billions of gallons of clean, treated freshwater a year across the nation with that simple modification, let alone savings at the waste water treatment plants, and from not having as much dumped into private septic systems. We also could go back to real toilets that use a real amount of water that 8works*, as opposed to these 1.5 gallon jobbers mandated bgy law now, that still waste water because they take 2 or 3 attemtpts to accomplish the task! I'd also like to see, where appropriate, a more widespread adoption of the now-advanced dry composting toilets, they work quite well. there are millions of places that could use those most of the time, perhaps as adjuncts to septic systems.
Very nice reply, thanks! I like the idea of "choice" ware, anything really, as long as it's simple and doesn't get restrictive to the point of incomprehensibility. Pay ware donate ware, or shareware or free ware. I would hope that voluntarily that more and more people would stick to share, donate or free, as the benfits are obvious. It seems to allow both the creator and the ultimate end user some sort of decent way to interact with each other on an adult level independent of laws and regulations. I understand the reasons for making money obviously, so I appreciate the work that people have done, and I have both purchased shareware after a trial, as well as tried it, didn't like it or use it much, so I deleted it. I use open source now, I pay for either cloned copies or full price for the distro official releases, as I like getting the physical media,and the dead trees manuals, which obviously have costs associated with it. the concept of try before you buy or donate is a good one. I'd also like to see a micropayment system for the distro makers,, that they in turn donate some of the proceeds directly to the popular app makers, based on... I don't know, a ratings system perhaps, with what gets included in their releases. As it is now, I'd have to cut a thousand little bitty checks all over heck to donate to all these people, seems sort of weird, and I couldn't afford even one dollar apiece to them,but some cents here and there, magnified by thousands or millions of people using the stuff, that would work, the "distributed patron system".
Mostly, despite my non elite spelling skills, I have been a writer, going back to the 60's, when I would cheaply reproduce what I wrote, mimeograph mostly, and give it away, or give it free to what was called back then the "underground" press. Mostly I write on news and politics, but I have also written extensively on survival and preparedness topics, and mostly put on various forums. It's just such a cheap and easy way to be creative and publish and to just give it away. My donation is my time, glad to do it, and I receive just as much back from other peoples inputs along those lines. I have done a small amount of private consulting on these topics, were my work was customised and detailed for the individual, and used an honor system sliding scale fee schedule, that mostly worked out good too, and I always offered a *free* price for those who were in rough financial shape, because to me, the info is better out there than not.
The main problems I see are just way overly complex laws and regulations, that's the part I think humans will get themselves in trouble with, as there is NO incentive for the law writing and administrating "community" to make things easier/simpler/fairer, but all the profit incentive in the world to make them more complex, obscured and expensive to administer. That trend is really the biggest problem, I doubt there's a day goes by here where you can't see or find an example of some blatant absurdity that has now turned into an expensive law mess. I really don't think it can be fixed the way it's setup now, I would prefer scrapping the entire business and starting over, exactly the same way I feel about the US tax "code", which is as cryptographic as beady eyed people can make it now, and shows no sign of improving. It's just too far gone into nutso land. Forget 128 bit file encryption,that's for beginners, just try deciphering the tax code base using alleged english words.... then they try to enforce it, it's a complete disaster. I think that's why the government is harassing the heck out of the guy (Larken Rose, IIRC) who wrote a book on the tax laws called "cracking the code", it was allowing people to figure out exactly how to "do" their taxes in the most efficient manner, they were getting rather *too good* of results.
Pretty sad comentary on our governmental tax and corporate mindshare when some company like that decides it's better to throw them away then to just drop their price significantly so A someone gets the book,gets the enjoyment or knowledge transferred, and B, they receive at least some money for it. Maybe perhaps if they just released books at an over all cheaper price, they'd make up for "profits" with increased sales. Got a buddy of mine, major gasoline retailer, he says "sure, I only make a penny or two a gallon, but when I sell millions of gallons..."
I wonder what the over all numbers are, gross numbers of books shipped, versus gross numbers sold and not sold/stripped. I have no idea, is it 1% not sold and stripped, 5%, 10%, or what? I know it happens, no idea what those figures are. I just really can't conceive of how anyone can think it's cool to just bury them at a dump.
Geez,here's a skeery thought, archaeologists of the future excavating the dumps (which might be what withstands global nuke firestorm war or natural disaster, being all compacted deep underground) might only see the complete literary rejects, and go "ok, now we know why that civilization collapsed, they were just stoopid, here *try* to read this **&^ stuff":^)
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Those mesh network things are a good idea too, I like them, the concept, however, you need people in reasonable proximity all the way to the fat pipes internet someplace. A lot of rural places you will wind up with areas that no one can reach the net with any sort of big bandwith. You'll be stuck running your whole network through some dialup modem, or someone eats the T-1. Around here they are close to one grand per month,last I looked anyway. I don't know many folks who would want to spend 100$ to 200$ to 300$ a month to have broadband. Or be happy with just a big local wan of 12 houses max or something spread out over many square miles. In suburbia around some big metro area, all across an area like that, swell, oodles of access points and enough people in it so it's a miniature full internet all by itself. Ya got your multi thousands of points in a mesh in some extended metro area, or 12 or 4 or something potential points. Example, my neighborhood, less than 10 houses all around for any distance, and several big hills/baby mountains seperating them. Maybe 1/3 of those people might be interested enough for broadband access, WAG on my part. So either way, still not happening, I just like seeing the solutions that ARE working someplace, because eventually someone is going to pull it off, or maybe uncle sugar will free up some spectrum or let more powerful transmitters be used OR SOMETHING. No one is in any hurry to run cable, fiber or anything else. MY idea was some sort of aimed point to point thingee relay that bolted to the existing telephone poles, then you only need them on the turns in the road. I haven't seen anything like that yet, some small doodad that bolts on and is wireless and real cheap and can be made easily self powered with a small solar panel perhaps. Fantasy device so far.
Coverage might suck too, whatever you use with radio waves, some folks on hilltops, some in the valleys, and the valleys won't even get new cell phones working right now, if you are driving and need to make a call you learn fast to STOP and pull over at the top of a hill, so I'm not sure any of the mesh stuff would work all that great, or even this other technique. I know my FRS radios are dismal if there's a hill in the way between the partys using them, and those have more wattage i believe than the other devices are allowed. heck, even non modded CBs suck. 2 meters work ok at high(er) wattages, that's about it. THAT'S the big problem, the low power that is allowed *by de law* and rough terrain. Unless every part of your mesh can afford a huge tower. If you can do that, go satellite, it's the same thousand dollars or more, and probably faster and you don't have to dork with it much. Let alone this lightning deal that exists.
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nice setup man, I bookmarked your html page. I like the cheap aspect of it. You also seemed to have gotten a deal on that T-1. Questions? what kind of range are you getting off that 90 foot tower, and is the tower itself on a hill much higher than your customers? Are the hills (and tress I guess)affecting coverage? Last, how many are you serving or do you think you can serve?
Rural broadband needs to be done, and waiting for some mythical perfect solution is that..waiting.And waiting. And waiting. It is teh suxors. Satellite internet is teh big bucks suxors.
It's a gimme none of the big guys are going to do it any time soon, so small mom and pops or co-ops wil have to be it, and I've been accumulating various web references and whatnot to see what's working. Yours is a nice simple *(relatively) description and write up, good job! I hope this gives some geeks some ideas on self employment, plus helping small communities, rather than sending out dozens of resumes for months and months to these big corporations. Work is work, and the rural areas are much cheaper to live in usually most places, much less crime, and other sorts of goodness, and MOST of them have zero broadband for sale.
Yaaay! Let's rev up those CS flammable poison gas injecting tanks and ram more homes and burn people alive then machine gun the ones seeking to escape! Yaay! US Justice- an equal opportunity incinerator!
Yaaay! Lets spray concentrated poison from aircraft over huge areas of third world rice farmers that causes death and birth defects into at least three generations!
Yaaay! Lets spray the same poison over huge areas of south america to knock out the business rivals of "our" drug smugglers of the week! Yaaay!
Yaaay! Lets order our veterans to undergo testing with chemical biological and radiological agents,including direct injections, drug them with experimental drugs with known long lasting side effects,let them watch their children be born with half an arm and no eyes on their face, watch them murder their families in fits of forced-drugging induced rage, then tell them IT'S ALL IN THEIR HEADS when they get sick and die, and refuse to provide any of the medical care they were promised! Yaaay!
Yaaay!
You live in the hypocritical united states of amnesia, friend
The big main benefit of fuel cells (especially in devices like phones/pdas/laptops or there are the same thing anymore) are two, and an obvious two:
Your %^&*ing batteries don't wear out and have to be replaced, frequently at a cost of more than something new, meaning some landfill waste, and the dead batteries themselves are mucho icky. This also means the devices have a much longer practical use lifespan,so they won't be replaced as often, which will force manufacturers to emphasize quality & reliability & easy internal upgradeability over blinkenlights & bloat-auge & casual tossability
FAST "recharge" time. FAST as in not hours or even minutes, but in under a minute tops to full power
ALSO, this makes the concept of fuel cells get to joe consumer, that it's viable. For instance, it is trivially easy and cheap to make your own fuel at home, ethanol or methane for example, either of which are quite clean fuels. This causes mindshare, the experimental mindset, acceptance of new technologies, more R&D leading to larger scale, more decentralised power (read, kill the monopolies) and so on and so forth.
downsides are....ummm....hmmm..... precious metals used for catalysts go up in value? Nice investment opportunity there...
guess I have no idea how this works then. What is the big difference between sending generic what~have~you "data" over vast distances with fiber optics and sending "quantum encrypted" data, that makes this distance limit? I read about the turbo charged photons in the article, still makes no sense to me, aren't all the data streams with fiber based on photons anyway? Is it of an acceptable loss limit thing (zero acceptable?), or what?
thanks in advance to anyone who can explain this for us pea brains
slashdot is fun, there's a head 'sploder for me everyday!
No, didn't download the PDF. I see no need, it's an obvious cover up scam in advance.
With that said, it's not broke, and there's no need to fix it. This attempt is a fancy way to have yet again another CYA deal for "saving money" and maximizing profits at consumers expense, and avoiding responsibility. The only proven "lesser of various legitimate evils" method is the one that is used now where the exploit is noted, the vendors are notified, then the general public. At best I'd say a few hours or 24 hours, or skip it and release it if it's in the wild already. Having an open ended patch time is what it appears to be, a way for the profitable vendors to delay fixing and treat bugs and exploits amd to treat them as minor issues. They've been doing that forever,obvious as all get out to even a casual observer, the other way just works better, that's what the empirical evidence shows. Both ways have sucky things to them, the current way of almost immediate public notice just sucks less. And the main reason WHY is that individualk consumers of said product can make up their minds based on severity of threat if they should alter or take down critical systems before they get hosed. That's THEIR business, NOT the business of the random software vendors they got their software from.
Vulnerabilites exist, so there needs to be maximum pressure put on the software vendors to patch, with no consideration to lost profits. No other industry gets that dodge, it's time for it to end. Closed source, expensive and propietary has long passed it's "new industry" honeymoon period they were given of being given slack on liability issues. Open source and free is a totally different animal, it's completely different. As soon as you give them any open ended time period wiggle room, the bean counters will step in and delay patches, and they also allow release of unproven and usually bugy stuff, again, profits over liability. It's been proven so many times now this should be a no brainer. That's the main reason there still exist huge holes, profits over quality and liability at every chance. That's the evolutionary shift that's needed, profits are OK, but should be secondary to quality of product released as "production quality" to the consumers. If software company A doesn't care about that, that shows their over all mindset. Companies that make billions and still foist "caveat emptor" on their consumers are doing a gross disservice to the public in general, and having it some sort of standard or law that they can sit on exploits and bugs forever and be ho hum about it is negligence to the public. It's time to get past that notion. A patch can be likened to a tangible good RECALL, if they just called them that, just use a different word, maybe it would make more sense to them and consumers. I will guarantee you, if any normal product sitting on the shelf gets enough recalls, that product is REMOVED from the market, you aren't allowed to sell it any longer. WHICH IS IT? I read this here all the time, "My blah blah version blah blah is just a tool and etc" CORRECT! It's a tool, and if you keep selling a tool to the public that constantly breaks and needs a recall,or is so flimsy it falls apart with normal use, it's DEFECTIVE MERCHANDISE and shouldn't be allowed to be sold. Can't do it? Tough luckski then, open source and free it,as in speech and beer, or move on to another business that you might be competent at..
IMO, back to bugs and exploits, it also needs to be released as soon as possible so that many more people can help with the patches and fixing, too, the "open source" method is by far superior in most instances.
OR, these closed source software vendors can accept the SAME liability that tangible products have, and be LIABLE for damages. They want to call their software a "product", they want their IP to be patentable and copyrightable and whatnot to have huge megabucks level financial value,they are lightning quick to use their lawyers to defend their products, GREAT, NO PROBLEMS if that is what they
hehehehe that comment of mine sure has garnered some interest. I don't think there's an URL anyplace, but I can describe her as I remember her. About 5' 8" , 130 lbs or so, curvy as ya need, face very similar to a young version angelica houston (near as I can get with a public figure person), but with that amazing pretty hair, down to her butt, very straight and fine. Now you'll just have to fantasize.
She was interesting ethnicicity background, her mom was a direct immigrant, from northern italy, and was a blonde, her dad was a second generation finnish immigrant, also a blond. I learned to make finnish pancakes from her, pure cholesterol tasty goodness, and some italian stuff I don't remember the names of anymore. It wasn't like the italian stuff you would be most familiar with, it was closer to german styled food, probably from that tyrolean I guess it is influence of her mom, that style of cooking. Good eats, and good treats!
that seems to be it. It's like guard dogs, they give a warning, and also if the bad guys are armed, serve as expendable bullet magnets.
..is because they have rubber stamped the dominant broadcasters licenses from day one, and given them a license to print money and spew disgusting propaganda that on any given day is usually 10% truth, 90% lies. Not one time has a major network been told "no,you've had your turn,you abused these *public* airwaves severely, time to give someone else a chance at it" No matter how bad the shows got, or how biased or fluffed out the news got,or how many complaints they got, STAMP! License to continue. Jokeski, I think they suck .. Complete total generations long rubber stamped monopolies with ties into government and the same old cast of fatcats, now for generations. They are so similar to each other as to make them "the same" in practical terms,and very generally speaking.
But, the same bunch of bribed GOONS will jump all over some small guy with his 10 watt alternative news and views radio someplace, even if he isn't interfering on any "assigned" channel.
The FCC is a tool of the goons, the power/establishment "elite",and always has been. Now, it will just be "moreso".
Sure, let them take the publics property and once again sell it back to you, the public, somehow. that's what they have always done, why should they stop?
I can name one country where a huge variety of normal tangible goods are still manufactured, and the workers work for "almost" free, and that is the US, where prison industries now use inmate labor in direct competition to "normal" free market workers. And I definetly don't mean license plates, I mean normal stuff you buy at the store like furniture and whatnot. And it's run by private, for-profit corporations. Hard to compete when you have a tax payer subsidised infrastructure,ie the prisons, and where the forced workers "make" like 10 cents an hour or something that they get to re spend back into the same private corporations prison stores. Add in the fact of the growing prison population due to more political-like crimes such as represented as the war on some drugs, and yes, there are places where the workers work for "free". I also just read an article last week or so, maybe here, I've forgotten, where prisoners in India are being used as forced programmers.
As to software, oh well. I think eventually (I have no exact time prediction, just some time in the somewhat near future) that software writing as a pure and extremly profitable business will eventually be very limited. That's primarily because right now we already have available most of the software that is required to do business, it exists already when you get down to it. Next is to take the automation concept to it's logical progression, the tools to write programs are getting easier, there are millions more very young people now who take it as a matter of course to learn these the same as "shop class' was when I was a kid and most guys my age can do a lot of normal car mechanics and carpentry, etc, and eventually those two lines on a graph of easy to do and millions doing it will cross and we'll have a full saturation point, where at that exact time the "worth" of software will be no more than todays throw away newspaper, so cheap as to be almost free. And the ones remaining still writing a lot will be doing it as at best an adjunct to their other and more primary job task, whatever that is, or doing it as a hobby, similar to learning to play a musical instrument is now, most people never make a cent from enjoying playing music. I'm not saying it-softweare writing to get back to it- will disappear,not in the least, just lose it's incredible profitable market share. Look back in that industry 40 or 50 years, see what people were paid for it and what the companies doing it were charging,and how many people by the numbers were doing it (take into consideration COL and inflation obviously), and now look at today-globally, you are forced to, now extrapolate it.
Ain't looking as rosy now is it? Especially with the amazing geometric progression.
I give it as a rough WAG to the commercial expensive software writing and selling bubble will burst within ten years or so (maybe less even), the high paid stuff anyway, and settle back down to a more normal type endeavor, not be quirte as sexy or in demand. I also think that people in that business and who are still paid well are (mostly and sure to be very much debated on this particular forum, but not on general forums) in just as much denial today of that prediction as various people were when they were buying stocks from companies that were trading at 200 times earnings and still sat on them, thinking this was going to just keep going on forever, even when on even a casual glance anyone could see these various companies had no net earnings whatsoever once you deducted VC. Millions of sane, intelligent adults fell for that, too, they were in complete denial of economic realities, because they (not all obviously, but most) were basking in temporary and theoretical future "wealth" they would receive magically,effortlessly, and forever. that gravy train was going to go on forever, that was the gross generic mindset then. Right now, it's the same mindset with various other aspects of industry, I'd say in particular besides software the professional managers in various industries, who think they are
Those two particular examples, saddam and osama- were supported first and foremost because they were and still are business partners with certain very high level politicians and their associated international corporations, and I'll include most nations central level "intelligence" and "police" organizations as way more corporate mercenaries than what they attempt to pass themselves off as. They are part of the muscle for these various crime cartels. It's a sweet deal for them because they get paid at BOTH ends. They get paid-usually by confiscated tax dollars once you follow the economics around-to create these problems. Then, after the problems *mysteriously* get out of control, they get paid to go in and "fix" them. Lather rinse repeat, they've been doing it a long time because it's a huge global scale sized political and economic scam that works, and it works fantastically well. Take it back an entire century and research it, see who the major funders were of the various sides in ww1 and 2 for more examples. You'll find out it was a lot of the same people-orgs/cartels/dynastys really-who funded all the sides in various ways. They've been laughing at the rubes (how they see most of us and how we are treated and conned) who keep falling for it, for generations now.
no probs, welcome. I'm not a windows guy so it's hard for me to remember all the arcanity involved with these dialer things, but I had a good friend who got nailed with something similar last year, and he was highly embarrassed but was stuck so I researched it, had decent results with google and found the removal sequence, and was able to clean his machine. And I saw the infection vector, it was a normal spam he got, and he had his mail program just execute it semi automagically near as I could see. I also told him to dispute heck out of his phone bill if they insisted on ridiculous long distance charges due to what is in essence a buggy computer system and getting hacked with a virus. And this guy runs paid-for firewall and virus scanner, too, not just the cheaper freebies, and still got it. I was prepared to document all the steps that had happened for him to use in his defense and dispute of bill, but luckily the phoneco was understanding, I think they had already received tons of complaints on it. I can't remember the exact name of the bug now though, but it was similar to this one IIRC, and it was definetly german porn that it accessed, that part I remember.
Personally, I think nowadays the best "distro" for joe average home surfer is to run one of those "live" cd things like knoppix or whatever, to not even have an operating system installed at all on the hard drive, and have it set up as a full "no write to nothing" sort of computer. Fast chips, huge amounts of ram, and that's about it. It's getting to the point that anything, any flavor OS, is just too complicated and too open to bugs du juor for security purposes. To USE that's a different story, all of them "work" plenty good enough to use, really, to KEEP SECURE is another thing entirely. It's only a matter of time now, when, not if, before some superworm takes down most of the computers on the net, something that will work on various OSes simultaneously and bust through normal scanners and firewalls and even take the sophisticated sysadmins unawares, all the way to critical nameservers. In fact, I bet it's already written, just not released yet. That's a pure WAG though I admit. I'll prename it, the armageddon blitzkrieg worm. (hope I haven't stolen a name there), because that's the effect it will have.
you are correct. It is all our duty to do what we can--as long as we are "allowed" to. The trends now are most ominous, and the technology available to the oppressors is most advanced. And I don't dispute we have foreign enemies who seek to subvert us,but I would also point out we have domestic enemies who appaear to sometimes support those outsiders, and other times they seem to be acting more as a general criminal gang who forge temporary alliances with other gangs, then double cross them, same as any other lower level gangs we might read about. It becomes quite complex to sort out the players, and I am suspicious of even the very high level "organized" protests that you can read about. Here is a great example, very current, the recent G8 protests. Huge coverage, etc, BUT, the much more important meeting of the international pirates was the week previous, the "bilderburg" conference, which still barely gets a mention and definetly had no protest associated with it.
I remember clearly protests in the 60's, was there. What I also remember was how I became disillusioned with a lot of them, from discovering how infiltrated a lot of the organizations were, with mercenaries hired by the "man" to use the slang term, and how often the "violence" aspect of the protests was initiated by them. I have since learned that this continues to this day, that it has only become more sophisticzated an extensive. I even have a personal friend who quit being a cop from his disgust over all he learned about it, when they sought to recruit him into these secret mercenary gangs to be tools for this power elite. it is very extensive,and crosses into the military. They actually have enough power to influence what gets protested and what doesn't,and how the protest evolves, again, look back to the lack of protest or much media coverage of the bilderburgs, or other star chamber like groups. They sort of "allow" and encourage looking at the lower levels of international power and command and control politics, and are fairly good at keeping the heat off the upper levels. These elites maintain the stranglehold of their "two party 'system'" although no where in the constituion is any mention of this system, and to be even more contrary, the founders almost universally (most, not all of course) warned against the dominance of any party, urging independents. We also have the problem of the very large well funded mass media being at the top composed of members of these high level controller groups, a clear conflict of interest, which is reflected in news coverage over the years. I have seen too many examples of really big news being ignored by ALL the major sources that most people use, which clearly shows it is coordinated at stratrospheric levels, even between what are apparently more "left" or "right" wing sources. the manipulative powers are awesome, but they always default to bigger and bigger centralised command and control.
So, the vote is hosed, now it's a hacked computer mess, it's gone basically, our various legislatures are bribed and blackmailed off, the media on any large scale is compromised, the economy is hijacked by professional counterfetiers masquerading as central banks and by loan sharks posing as "lenders" to entire nations, the "market" is run by sophisticated smakeoil salespeople, again, tied to the previous criminal gangs, and the entrenched bureaucracy in government is virtually untouchable, there's no remedy from abuse.
I see *some* hope, but not really from just a continuation of the levels most people are happy with now or work at, and even at that level, the numbers are just too small now, there is less interest than there was decades ago in constructive change for the better it appears, at least from my ballpark glances at it. I see those efforts like we see now as just going along with the divide and conquer mind set that the high level controllers encourage people to settle at.
And to be clear, no way do I claim to have all of the planetary "big picture", I don't, I doubt even the very h
I looked on google for this, here are some sites might help you:
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http://www.hamdard.net.pk/dis7.htm
It sure felt like buhzillions! You have to remember, too, as you are carrying this weight, it's also the distances involved in walking back and forth. Chicken houses are at least 300 feet long, those were closer to 500 if I am remembering correctly. The last ones I worked at, earlier this year and late last year (different job, part time weekends picking eggs), are 400 feet long. Now walk back and forth all night long inside that distance, 50% of the time carrying six cluckers, ya, it gets into the real physical work range. It has to be many miles of walking carrying weight in your hands. And that doesn't count the slipping and falling down and getting slimed part either. Tell you, we should be thankful that our chickens at the store or restaurant are still so inexpensive to purchase given the work combined with the extremely dismal pay at that end of the industry. The workers in the plants have it fairly rough as well. Personally,it wouldn't bother me a bit if chickens only costed 25 or 50 cents more, and that loot got distributed to the people doing the really nasty work, they sure would appreciate it.
I have mixed feelings on the machine in the article, I understand that automation is here to stay, I also feel it's necessary to keep some sort of actual contact with the idea that these are living creatures, and should be treated with the idea of compassionate husbandry, and the physical contact (somewhat) between human and stock critter I think helps that process. They claim the machines are more humane, maybe, they certainly eliminate some jobs, but create others. I'd have to see one working, I never have, so I really can't tell if it's as rosy as they make it out for the birds.
I was with her about 2.5 years or so. She went away to art school,then switched and went into nursing, We both drifted apart, not enough day to day seeing each other, both young people, etc, we found new friends. We stayed cordial. She was a fox, one of only two girls I ever met who had that naturally "white" sort of blond hair.
...but I have now. Interesting read, albeit a hard text to follow for me older eyes.
I am most wondering now, with no possible way to find out, how he would differentiate todays "copying" with his ages copying. Notice he makes a distinction between derivative works, even exact renderings, because they take labor and media, as opposed to recited works,vocal speech. He classes them different, and I am guessing because there was no true way to actually store them then, or to reproduce them on any media, they needed human effort for each use of a work, they had to be recited. Now this is quite possible, so I imagine he would alter his analysis. Also, he seems fixated on potential damages, ie, it's all based (more or less) on the assumption that the transference of legal power to the editor would be based on remuneration. that seems over emphasized to me, but it's understandable from most peoples point of view.
The point I most agreed with,if I may make an attemtp at paraphrasing here, was the moral and legal imperative for the editor to actually carry out the creators wishes, to get the works out to the public, in such a manner as to be *efficient*, and to fail in that duty is to abbrogate the trust and contract. this is an extreme key point and part of the counter argument that the file copiers of today site, ie, "the means to publish/deliver product exist to make it extremely cheap and still profitable,merely by allowing more precise product isolation and choice, and by the means of delivery,and the editors and publishers ignored that for years and years, they violated their contract of a sorts both to the artist creator and to the eventual consumer public". This is just true facts. That point seems to apply to today, where the big publishers seek to actually hinder dissemination, and seek indemnity against the now legitimate "counterfeiters", who claim from their side that the structure of the published copies being offered by todays editors and publishers violates the efficiency of what is available, in effect, the publishers have failed in their contract with the artist/creator, so in that sense they may not be considered counterfeiters.
In essence,and I hope I got this and am clear on it, the originator owns the work. He may choose what to do with it. He may assign legal rights to make copies. It is the new copiers duty to follow the contract and edit and publish if this is the contract. A non legitimate copy from another is an illegal counterfeit, but not against the artist, only against the publisher. An *apparent* non legitimate copy may be re classified as legitimate IF the assigned publishers have failed to do an adequate job of publishing and dissemination based on their ability to do so, if they fail to use due vigilance, which we can assume is to use the best available technology of mass production.
I don't have any major problems with those concepts. It is after all about choice. I would also like to say I would hope that all creators would seek to work towards maximum exposure with the least cost, and to obtain their "profits" from that, or to take profits by THEIR aquisition of others creations, an advanced distributed quid pro quo barter like system, in short, pure swapping or sharing.
I would rather skip the intermediary third party publisher/editor, I think that is the main difference now with our technology, that middle man step is no longer needed all that much. the creators have all the source tools they need to also publish all the copies they want and to distrivute. this is actually a much better deal for the creators. it's fat city really, well, it would be if everyone else did it, the way it is now half and half with a conglomeration of almost this or that is sort of unwiedly. I would put that to the rapid advances of technology more than anything else. That makes the distribution much cheaper, down to free in theoretical cost, or so close as to be neglible.
There's two basic choices for the creators now, with the caveat of the publisher/editor bec
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!11!! I've DONE this job, lots, catching chickens in the dark and putting them in cages. It's one of the "fowl"er jobs out there. If at all possible, it's scheduled on new moon nights,or as close as possible, as dark as possible. On one farm where I worked doing this (back early 70's,pure fox platinum blonde farmers daughter, weekend job, etc, you know how it is....), we'd even ride up in the front end loader and put a hood over the public street light on the road out front, to further make it darker. The darker it is, the less they freak out. Next, the farmer, who was a closet alky and hid bottles from his old lady all over the farm, would give all us young fool morons dragooned into this cluck burger transportation service multiple shots of his wild turkey. Thus fortified, we are off! You slide into the chicken house, bend over, feel along the floor, find a chicken leg and snatch it, holding it with one finger, you find another, and another, three in each hand finally, for a total of 6. Then you trudge outside to the truck, load these now non-sleepy bundles of flapping indignation into wooden cages, then someone else would stack the cages. Back and forth and forth and back, on into the wee hours. This was BUHZILLIONS of chickens per chicken house, usually over 20,000 or so. That farm was slightly different from the story, these were egg layers going to the battery cages, before that, free ranging in open houses. Same deal though, ya gots to get cackleberry squatter from point A to B. Each chicken ran around 6-7 lbs. Do the math by the end of the night of what you probably carried in livestock tonnage, maybe 4 or 5 guys doing it.
I think I made a whopper 2 clams an hour back then. If it wasn't for that girl, well, I just don't know how long I would have done that job...
I am not clear on one point. If I am incorrect, my apologies in advance of course. Are we to understand the entire corporate "official" mindset and policy so far is to be "leech and profit" only? IF so, it's simple, tell them it just ain't cool to only be a leech. They are cutting their own throat in the long run, and don't "get" the *full* concept of open and free software.
It's bad karma, man. Tell 'em that. Sharing goes both ways, or it won't work forever. Eventually no one is gonna wanna play nicey nice with you, back to struggling, watching the bigger fish come and get ya. The whole idea is strength and success and over-all profitability through cooperation and sharing. Just "taking" don't cut that software mustard.
nice group of thoughts! I think I can describe it simply. We don't have a legitimate government, we have rule by international corporate edict that is filtered by the illusion of an elected representative government. that's what's wrong and it's so extensive now as to be virtually unfixable.
I'm all for a secession from this corporate bastardized version of "USA Inc" as it stands now. I'm not against business, I'm not against making a buck, I AM against powerful international pirates masquerading as "patriotic americans" and ruling us by stealth fiat from secret star chambers. I could care less what language they speak as a first language, it's easy to spot some international screw everyone else I'm a citizen of the world, as opposed to a joe normal USian. I'm against them other gents, they have no use sitting in power, because first and foremost they aren't real patriots,or even honest, they are just power-mad and money=-centered nutcases, megalomaniacs.
We have the full complete *illusion* of constitutional law,wheras real law, designed to be simple and easily understood by anyone who had an average IQ and could understand the common language has evaporated, it's poofed. It also appears to have a direct relation to number of flags waved and "nuke the ay-rabs" statements and accumulated uses of the word "terrorist" or "terrorism" near as I can see.
"We are the government. Because we say (with our secret evidence) that bad guy person A wants to steal your freedoms, reluctantly we must steal your freedoms so badguy A won't get them". "We are the government. Because you might actually use technology, we now must take away your technology, it is all ours, and we will sell you permission slips and slap huge amounts of thooroughly incomprehesible regulations on that permission, and BTW, you don't own any real property, we own it all,including your very person, and lease it back to you at our leisure and we say what it will cost, and we have THE monopoly on that, and if you don't like it, tell it to the nice man with the tank and jail cell"
This is a government and economic society designed by yossarian. Catch 22 sources compiled with the "gotcha" compiler.
IP abominations are tip of the iceberg, on every front,we face assaults. I like writing on the IP issues, but really, I see that as just a percent or two of the entire problem. These... predatory creatures... posing as men, do it relentlessly, I cringe every day any "legislature" is in session, I am scared every time a "governor" or the so called "president" picks up an inkpen.
Although I don't 100% agree with the capital L Libertarian official version, I would say I am a small l type of person/independent constitutionalist, and as things stand now I fully support and admire the Freestate concept and plan,as it's the ONLY workable plan or idea I have seen anyone propose that has a whisker of a chance of stopping the big brother & global money pirates axis of command and control juggernaut and getting some sort of common sense and accountable government back in place. And the reason why that might be possible is it will take an entire state and all it's official authority and apparatus and support of it's citizens to be strong enough and steeled enough in their resove to say "NO! NO FURTHER, BACK THE HELL OFF, WAY, WAY BACK, OR ELSE!" to big brother.
The "or else" part is critical. There , I said it out loud.
It is going to get down to that, inevitable now, OR we will be total droned out shuffling with eyes averted down slaves of some international monster soon, you can see it, hear it and smell it coming.
It REALLY is going to get down to that,a full secession or a counter-coup to get the nation back from the bribers and strong armed conmen who seized it a long time ago. We are living under a military/bureaucratic dictatorship junta, lead by traitorus internationalists who could care less about anything except their "bottom line" and their hideous fetish of accumulation of raw power over ot
Not avaialble my area, outside flat rate coverage zone. sigh. I keep waiting for something to appear that is effortless internet access,I just do not want to have to buy extra cables and wires and cards and software voodoo the system to get to the dang internet, want flat rate, add the phone as you need it at a reasonable cost. This deal looks "close", real dang close, but not...quite...there yet because it's only in the same places that already have broadband and a huge choices of hardwired or wireless stuff. I couldn't even see if you could attach this to a laptop or desktop easy, which is another requirement, vast majority of time that's how it would be used for my purposes.
I use this whole cellphone/landphone/computer deal 99% internet, 1% voice. I frequently don't use the 600 anytime/anywhere minutes a month on the phone, but have to stay locked into a landline dialup, THAT never gets used for voice phone service. I WANT the cell because it's portable,say if you breakdown so bad you can't fix it yourself on some remote road or something, etc, and I don't need the dialup telephony or it's associatedbill at all, just some sort of data pipe to the internet, but that must come bundled, which fries my grits. Extra 35 clams a month on top of the net access bill of 20 clams so you can use the net at slow speed. Ridiculous.
I'm greatful I have it though, it's just sort of frustrating.
And their website (t-mobile) makes ya use javascript and eat cookies and have images turned on just to surf around in it. Hate when that happens, you'd THINK with a product like this they would have a low res text only no BS blinkenlights version of the site to USE with their own products. Maybe it's there, but I'm not seeing it.
Maybe what I want they don't even make. all I really want is some sort of dumb but functional wireless, cell phone coverage area internet appliance, if it does phone calls, swell, it doesn't need all that other jazz, I don't need games, schedulers, robotic carwashes, text messages, or anything like that, I'll sacrafice that for seamless wireless internet,at some sort of modest rate that's fair to both parties, a decent data transfer rate, because it's tiring to wait for this imaginary broadband and to pay for a landline phone you never use. If they can leave all that other stuff off the appliance and only charge 1004 for it, swell, I'd get their device and wireless data, but, not even avaialable here.
Oh ya, it has to run linux or blah blah blah, I don't care, just sell me that last dang mile wirelessly and EASILY with no crap attached to it, for a reasonable fee, that's good enough.
Notice how my needs keep dropping?? hahahaha!
just MAYBE all this US infrastructure in the broadband area would become profitable if they would PLEASE just spend some more and FINISH the LAST MILE everywhere. There's a huge untapped market out there for broadband. And dig this! I just found out about an area around here that has NO internet being provided except for satellite, there's NO dialup even, let alone broadband. Knocked me socks off. Yes, small community, but hundreds of homes total. they got some dinky coop phone deal, but zero internet! akkk!and every place outside their little area is long distance. This is just rude. I was also visiting in a neighboring state, now this area is normal built up, thousands of people, real cities, etc, this pretty big area JUST last month got offered broadband from some provider, it's bottom of the barrel adsl service, 120$ for 40 hours a month!!!!!!!! I was talking to a big real estate guy there, he was relieved to just get it.
Those are some-not all but certainly some- of the reasons they say we have a "glut" of big pipes/infrastructure and they aren't profitable, there's tens of thousands of square miles (or more, but it's in every state of the nation) and millions and millions of people all over who couldn't purchase the product even if they wanted to. The last mile ain't there. Seems lame as all get out to put all this other expensive stuff in, then not do the last %^^&%&^ mile. I am just amazed it continues, this is 2003, not 1995. I mean, once it's in, doesn't fiber or good cooper or coax cable last like decades or more? Or are all these companies just worried about this years profits, not seeing the really big picture here. Suppose they had done that with POTS, just skipped the last mile? Of course it would have never worked. This is the US, not some third world place, there's little reason to not have this stuff built, if they could get rid of some of the more stoopid local monopoly laws, and if INVESTORS were truly INVESTING for the long haul, and not acting like a big group of pure gambling something for nothing day traders.
I had no idea it was that high. That's a scandal if I ever heard of one, it's obscene. "Print on demand" for dead tree editions needs to take off more, help solve excessive costs and excessive wastes. Recycling paper sounds good, but it sure borks a huge amount of valuable fresh water, and uses energy. Better to not even have to do it in the first place, methinks, print only what is needed.
I have another pet peeve, and a possible solution to a big problem, going back to fresh water. Homes and buildings have both grey water and brown water waste systems. I see no reason to use expensive clean freshwater to flush away brown water. There should be small tanks installed in homes and other buildings that take the gray water from the house,store a reasonable amount, and use that for flushing. All gray water is, is soapy water basically. We could save literally billions of gallons of clean, treated freshwater a year across the nation with that simple modification, let alone savings at the waste water treatment plants, and from not having as much dumped into private septic systems. We also could go back to real toilets that use a real amount of water that 8works*, as opposed to these 1.5 gallon jobbers mandated bgy law now, that still waste water because they take 2 or 3 attemtpts to accomplish the task! I'd also like to see, where appropriate, a more widespread adoption of the now-advanced dry composting toilets, they work quite well. there are millions of places that could use those most of the time, perhaps as adjuncts to septic systems.
Very nice reply, thanks! I like the idea of "choice" ware, anything really, as long as it's simple and doesn't get restrictive to the point of incomprehensibility. Pay ware donate ware, or shareware or free ware. I would hope that voluntarily that more and more people would stick to share, donate or free, as the benfits are obvious. It seems to allow both the creator and the ultimate end user some sort of decent way to interact with each other on an adult level independent of laws and regulations. I understand the reasons for making money obviously, so I appreciate the work that people have done, and I have both purchased shareware after a trial, as well as tried it, didn't like it or use it much, so I deleted it. I use open source now, I pay for either cloned copies or full price for the distro official releases, as I like getting the physical media,and the dead trees manuals, which obviously have costs associated with it. the concept of try before you buy or donate is a good one. I'd also like to see a micropayment system for the distro makers,, that they in turn donate some of the proceeds directly to the popular app makers, based on... I don't know, a ratings system perhaps, with what gets included in their releases. As it is now, I'd have to cut a thousand little bitty checks all over heck to donate to all these people, seems sort of weird, and I couldn't afford even one dollar apiece to them,but some cents here and there, magnified by thousands or millions of people using the stuff, that would work, the "distributed patron system".
Mostly, despite my non elite spelling skills, I have been a writer, going back to the 60's, when I would cheaply reproduce what I wrote, mimeograph mostly, and give it away, or give it free to what was called back then the "underground" press. Mostly I write on news and politics, but I have also written extensively on survival and preparedness topics, and mostly put on various forums. It's just such a cheap and easy way to be creative and publish and to just give it away. My donation is my time, glad to do it, and I receive just as much back from other peoples inputs along those lines. I have done a small amount of private consulting on these topics, were my work was customised and detailed for the individual, and used an honor system sliding scale fee schedule, that mostly worked out good too, and I always offered a *free* price for those who were in rough financial shape, because to me, the info is better out there than not.
The main problems I see are just way overly complex laws and regulations, that's the part I think humans will get themselves in trouble with, as there is NO incentive for the law writing and administrating "community" to make things easier/simpler/fairer, but all the profit incentive in the world to make them more complex, obscured and expensive to administer. That trend is really the biggest problem, I doubt there's a day goes by here where you can't see or find an example of some blatant absurdity that has now turned into an expensive law mess. I really don't think it can be fixed the way it's setup now, I would prefer scrapping the entire business and starting over, exactly the same way I feel about the US tax "code", which is as cryptographic as beady eyed people can make it now, and shows no sign of improving. It's just too far gone into nutso land. Forget 128 bit file encryption,that's for beginners, just try deciphering the tax code base using alleged english words.... then they try to enforce it, it's a complete disaster. I think that's why the government is harassing the heck out of the guy (Larken Rose, IIRC) who wrote a book on the tax laws called "cracking the code", it was allowing people to figure out exactly how to "do" their taxes in the most efficient manner, they were getting rather *too good* of results.
Pretty sad comentary on our governmental tax and corporate mindshare when some company like that decides it's better to throw them away then to just drop their price significantly so A someone gets the book,gets the enjoyment or knowledge transferred, and B, they receive at least some money for it. Maybe perhaps if they just released books at an over all cheaper price, they'd make up for "profits" with increased sales. Got a buddy of mine, major gasoline retailer, he says "sure, I only make a penny or two a gallon, but when I sell millions of gallons..."
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I wonder what the over all numbers are, gross numbers of books shipped, versus gross numbers sold and not sold/stripped. I have no idea, is it 1% not sold and stripped, 5%, 10%, or what? I know it happens, no idea what those figures are. I just really can't conceive of how anyone can think it's cool to just bury them at a dump.
Geez,here's a skeery thought, archaeologists of the future excavating the dumps (which might be what withstands global nuke firestorm war or natural disaster, being all compacted deep underground) might only see the complete literary rejects, and go "ok, now we know why that civilization collapsed, they were just stoopid, here *try* to read this **&^ stuff"