--they already gave you the IPO money,it's yours, free loot, cool! So isn't it a good deal for you to just now buy back all your shares at that one dollar price so you don't have to deal with stock holders any more? Or are you just trying to keep selling more shares to live on while you do R&D?
those closed source voting machines? here in georgia despite both exit polling and pre polling showing otherwise, and a lot of poll day "glitches" that about disappeared from the news as fast as they were reported, we had a huge turnaround in which party become dominant. Biggest upsets since civil war days. Yes, just coincidental we were the first entire state to use the computer voting machines.
I really doubt the US vote is relevant anymore. If it needs to be "fixed" at any level, it can happen now, and no one can find out if it was. We are being presented with "trust, but no verify".
--there's another side to him, I just heard of it last year. this is a quote from gandhis autobiography.
"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
Make of it as you will. What I make of it is (have to admit I have not read the book so I invite a correction from anyone who has, if applicable),is that non violence is kinda of where it's at to resist with when you've already been disarmed. And of course, it depends on the circumstances, some beefs deserve non violence,passive resistance, but IMO, other beefs require a more active sort of resistance.
Speaking as an older civil rights marcher, then on to anti scam war and anti slavery draft protests, I think both techniques have their times and places. The correct tool for the job idea.
About time. Apple got a clue. Cheap singles, downloadable, mix and match. Just the formula that's been obvious for years now, just needed to be done on a big scale from a brand name outfit. Any of the big guys could have done this, software side, hardware side, music industry side. People asked them, they knew about it.
Just shows how many bad ideas can get investor money and interest, and how long a good idea can lay there begging to be picked up, even when millions of people are pointing at it, going "hey, look, a good idea!"
And just think the bigger push for better and cheaper broadband now, just from this one move, and it's a "legit" move, too, zero "controversy" about it or it's legality. It would be *nice* if it was cheaper than a dollar,and a scosh more flexible, but all in all it's a good start anyway.
--the "who profits?", yes this is true. the only obvious profit I can see from disrupting the irc nets is to stop the irc nets. who loses big time besides all the normal users from irc being up and running?
That's about it, and from the reactions I have gotten, I wish now I had STFU about it. Never thought I'd see what I am seeing with the frantic defense and subject changing. sorta again suspicious to me, but oh well, no one cares, I don't. I always forget that this is slashdot, I keep thinking it's a normal web forum, and I just need to learn my lesson on that. Just seemed obvious to me as ONE possible and maybe probable angle to look at, that it was a proactive attack from the people who said they were going to be doing that. guess I was just SO WRONG to even bring the subject up.
I sincerely hope that the elite ones can solve their problems with the irc being disrupted, that's about it, besides that, got no dog in the fight with music swppers, although I have written on it a lot,in defense of the swappers, I guess I'll leave the swappers to fight their own battles then,I'll skip my normal political contacts I work on the subject that I've develoiped over the years, I got more important things then the latest hollywood must-see block buster or some band I never heard of or some video game. I don't own one single mp3 or digital movie, I am more concerned with the integrity of the net. Maybe if everyone who trades gets hacked to pieces and taken down,gets fined, etc, it will slop over and get rid of the bulk of the virus writers and spammers, too. I'd bet a nickle that spammers and virus writers also snag filez, wouldn't you? Anyway, who knows who writes these things and turns them loose, maybe it'll be a good thing in the long run for people who don't want the net taken over by the bad people, maybe, no idea.
OK, it's a random normal virus, just sent out "because it's possible" and someone wants to brag about it, even if it's just to themselves just to gloat over. There ya go, that's exactly what it is, no other possibility. I'm done on this thread for now, thanks.
Gee, really going way out of your way to change the subject, huh? Wonder why that is? Got something to defend there? Chatting, irc, etc are way close enough to be referred to as a sort of P2P.
I can discuss with people, just don't "do" insults, which I certainbly didn't start,so if you or anyone else want to talk to me, do it without insults or get ignored from here on out. If you got proof of whomever is doing it, or a pet theory, why don't you discuss that instead? wouldn't that be more productive than arguing over picky word definitions that are arguably vague enough so that two different versions can be close enough to fit? OK, swell, irc chat is not pure P2P because it's not...whatever, it's something else, even though you can gather as a group, dcc between individuals, or whatever, because it's routed different or whatever. There, happy? Are you all glad now that you "win" some weird flame deal?
Take your winnings to the store, see what you can buy with it.
Have a good day, my handle is obvious,I use one handle on slashdot, don't reply to me anymore, I just don't like picky crap like this, it's a waste of time. If you can't figure out what my basic thoughts were, I;m sorry, they should have been taken just as a way to seque into the main idea, ie "warez and filez get traded there by people communicating with each other", ergo, it's a sort of P2P as opposed to a static http web page or ftp site people link to to download from. If that don't fit your picky detailed descriptions of what "P2P" is, frankly, I could care less. And last I knew, there isn't any official P2P overlord who has got the one and true legal definition of P2P anyplace, besides person 2 person or people 2 people. that could fit quite a lot of internet actions actually, BUT, we'll let uyou "win" that one, only the way you describe it is the one true "official" definition. All hail the official P2P uberdictator!
buzz off creepazoid, and you can have your "last word", go for it, have fun.
--oh, OK, I agree, it could be totally random. Definetly a possibility there. It's (the riaa/mpaa contractors as perps idea) just a possibility that is a shade above probability than your paint salesman and graffiti analogy. For that I would think "gang members" unless it was warchalking symbols. But you can disagree with that as well. And I never stated it as fact, I premised it with the word "possible" and with their stated intentions of doing similar, combined with evidence of them doing it already and other proacctive measures like the popup instant messages warnings, etc, combined with it being on kazaa, I can claim "common sense" 101 same as ya'all.
Also note, I never called this on any other worm or virus, just this one. Probably not an important or even known detail to you, but it is significant to me. I just smell a rat on this one, a shiny billionaire monopolist rat. I hope I am wrong though, really, I'd rather it was a normal script kiddie.
I have another theory as well, and I'm working on it now, and it's totally different, but at this time I can't show any verification of it, so I'll skip it unless I can come up with some evidence.
--yes, it's hard even from your net and op positions to keep warez and filez out, so look at it from the riaa, mpaa angle. to them, tryinmg to find and destroy every individual is a huge project, SO, maybe some mastermind there thought it would be easier to just trash irc in general. When the military does it, any innocents who get trashed are called 'collateral damage", and usually they don't care all that much, it's the spin doctor spokesweasels problems then. and with the nature of the attacks, they got layers if insulation for "plausible deniability", even though they announced "pro active" attacks, unless there's a smoking gun found, they can claim stoopid and innocent.
just a few thoughts. I like IRC, been using it since--forget now, 93 maybe? I claim zogheimers on that, heh. Not a lot but since then. Shame to see something so cool always struggling. It's always something.
--hey, go suck a rotten lemon. Ya you, talking to you, don't need your bogus technical skillz to define little miniscule picky points. You know exactly what I was saying, and so does everyone else here.. You are about as elite as roadkill, nimrod. It's close enough with the referenced topic to pass muster. It's a big net that in a lot of instances is used for file trading, and by your own admission, you can do person to person. By you definition, kazaa wouldn't be a P2P, because it uses other peoples routers on the internet, you aren't telnetting between people individually.
Get over yourself. Save your insults for yore momma, she deserves it.
they sure did, and I hope they keep getting caught at it. The first time some senator or senators kid or wife gets nailed, you'll see them throttle back that crap, and pronto. Until then, you have to conisder that it's basically a war, and you won't get any help from joe bribed/blackmailed government.
And you think on that, who has buckets of actual cash for bribes,which industry is rife with illegal drugs to use, and who has access to a lot of starving actors and actresses and wannabes who might be persuaded to...how to put this delicately.. to "perform" on candid camera to get a video tape to use in "persuasion" to get a government official to see things a certain way?
"who profits?" apply it to crimes, 90% of the time you got your perp, pretty much a cut and dried formula. Not totally accurate, but dang good track record over the years.
The entire idea of IRC is communications between individuals. Some is direct, some is centralised, that part doesn't matter. It's a P2P network, and one of the significant ways files get traded. it's also off the radar screens of most people, joe user uses instant messenger whatnot,he won't even care if IRC exists or not, they never even heard of it, but some serious activity with trading goes on in IRC, and always has. Hence, "who profits?" from corrupting it. What cop is gonna give a care if IRC goes down? the FIBBers only investigate once you've crossed a verifiable 5,000$ business loss threshold. Who on IRC is gonna even claim that? Ya, they cruise for illegal porn, but I doubt they could care less if IRC is made unusable, just one less thing they have to deal with.
I still think the named perps I speculated on are high on the list of possible suspects, probably through "independent contractors".
We need another label too, white hat, gray hat and black hat don't even fit, I'd term those malicious coders cammiehats, because all they are is another form of no morals or ethics mercenaries. Like in meat world, where they will kill anyone for a paycheck, in cyber world, they will attack and destroy anyone for a paycheck.
I have no PROOF, just I got a good sniffer for crimes it appears, noticed it for so long now I've come to rely on it, at least for a first reaction, a point to start at for looking for more clues.
--anyone else get the impression this is a pro active anti "piracy" move by the music and movie monopolists? That's what I thought of when I first read about this a couple of days ago. Looks like an attempt to shutdown channels of P2P-ish nets.
Anyway, that's how I think with crimes, use flatfoot 101, "who profits?".
---the idea is missing a huge segment of the population that has money, mobility,and camps out in weird areas. yas das right, I'm talking about retired geezers in RVs,people with a lot of spare cash and loot, who are into gadgets, have complete mobile power sources, and get bored silly and are up for a hoot now and then. You look at the number of campgrounds spread across the US and the number of RV's out there (where a lot of the "wireless internet" momentum and interest is coming from, believe me, they want the internet in those rigs) you might have another group of thousands, tens of thousands willing to participate, especially if it's billed as a way to start designing a permanent wireless internet.
Now, add in long haul truckers, who again are quite familiar with modding and hacking, use a variety of radios and computers now.
Add those two groups to the mix, I don't see any problem making the coast to coast jump, even across those scary "heartland" places with wild dangerous things, like cows and trees and 100 miles of corn.
Hey, here's another, biker clubs, they might be up for it too. Lot of guys who can afford 20 grand harleys or goldwings as toys *also* got computers.
There's probably more, but that's the idea, instead of trying to get one big "club" of people, most of those clubs already exist, enlist members in each, they'll find the other people inside their "clubs" to help out, if I can call long hault truckers and RVers as a club, or just a demographic group tyo be closer.
--the "Fed" is in an unusual situation of tgheir own making, because of the nature of using phony money. On one hand, they want a 'strong dollar", so tyhat joe sixpack can buy cheap imports. On the other hand, they want a "weak dollar" so that our exports can be sold overseas easier.
So let's look at what they are doing to go along with this dichotomy (apparent).
destroying the vertical manufacturing base, the real deal when it comes to creating wealth and not just re-arranging wealth. check, moving that stuff offshore as fast as they can.
OK, that leaves agriculture. Whoops, other nations are taking those markets, and fast.
Well, then, mining, that's it, that's the last of actual wealth producing industries. whoops again, "ponderosa mine closed due to the flying three eyed newt owl that nests in the varigated spiderwort".
Hmm, gee.... but but, stuff at the store is still cheap!
why yes, as long as you still have a job and keep using them credit cards!
HAHAHAHAH
It's just SO obvious the great rip-off is coming! It's gonna make the great depression look like a lemonade stand stickup!
I think the scam they will use to stifle dissent then and to impose drastic "police" presence and stop the riots will be biological in origin. Cut to the US movie set --> "Que biological terrorist attack, take one!"
Telling small lies is hard, it's those really big ones that are easy it appears.
I remember my grandmothers and great aunts telling me about the great depression scam, how tons of the local real estate just shifted hands up stream.
got another one here local. civil war time, south loses, carpet baggers come down. Well, confederate money gets declared "illegal" it's made worthless, you need "union" money. Deal was, no one who lived down here had any "union" money. when the tax came due,or the farm bank note, surprise, no money to pay it. Carpetbaggers picked up entire farms around here for 50 or 60 cents. entire farms. To this day there's two families local here will not speak to each other.
True facts on what happens when your fiat money gets blown out. And lookeee just recent down in argentina, what happened there. It don't matter to US folks much because those are "foreigners on the TV",and "it can't happen here".
Uh huh, yep. It only already happened to peoples grand parents or great grandparents, but it's "impossible" to happen. "just because"
Mostly your are correct, I own "stuff", tangibles. I do business in tangibles as much as possible, sorta hard, but not impossible. I saw what was going to happen in the go-go 90's when I saw how incredibly greedy people can be, and what they think money and wealth are. It's like no one stops to think 'wealth" can't be created out of thin air, it has to be a human being doing something to create "wealth".
Ya, I'm holding out for the next two bubbles, real estate and derivatives. I should do OK then with my "loony" tangibles. I believe in metals, gold, silver, steel, brass, copper and lead. Good stuff.
I'd like to see a *real* "ask slashdot" of all the differences, too. Of course it might de-evolve into a flamefest, but I'd still like to see the attempt made.
--old famous book, "The Compleat Angler" by Izaac Walton
I have a pet name for cookie cutter subdivisions like that, and for all I know there's probably a real one or three out there. I call them all (in my silly mind) "creekwoode pointe estates" with the olde englishe extra e. Those are the larger ones, smaller ones I call "ridgeview". That seems to cover most of them anyway. It's like they are taught that as an example at real estate/developer school or something and it just sticks.
Another favorite of mine is "starter homes". I always equated that with like "training bras".
I think it was george carlin maybe, can't remember now, but another one, as a question --> "why do we park on driveways and drive on parkways?"
Ya, what's up with that anyway??
Language is pretty funny sometimes.
Back to the names deal, I lived atlanta metro for a long time, there's like almost 3 dozen different "peachtree" whatever streets. Hysterical. Well, if you got a warped sense of humor like I have it is.
Cars-they all have to sound "tough", macho, and the ones that don't..well, that's capitalism for you. I don't count cars with just letters and numbers, no language-sport there.
Gremlins??? Never had a chance. Yugo? Huh? -insert bubba voice- "ain't that that furrin money?" And KIA???? Killed in Action??? I want to drive one of them babies? I don't think so.....probably nice cars and all, but I don't think so.....
Of course, I drive a Jeep, a small mythical creature that inhabits --uhh was it from popeye cartoons? I think so, little fantasy critters. I know it comes from GPxx-government whatever, but still.... language=funny
--I addressed those points somewhat more in detail in a reply/follow up down the thread. I think our posts crossed paths. I'm running in and writing then running outside and working, mucho glorious spring day here!
.. you have to differentiate between the concept of "money" and produced "wealth". You are correct, anything can be made "money" and used, especially at gunpoint and by inertia. the difference is, when your "moeny" is backed by a tangible, it cannot be inflated or deflated arbitarily. it can't be scammed or conned or disappeared or created by trickery. It's (precious metals now) also by far and away the oldest, most used and most "trusted" human currency, all the way back to pre biblical times. And you may still rest assurred, the very high level dudes on the planet still "trust" it. They just don't want you peons to use it, that's all, but they sure do. Don't believe me, go up to any big bullion holding bank and ask for a free sample of their worthless or near worthless precious metals.
They want you to keep using that counterfeit crap they print up, sweet deal for them! they can create boom/bust cycles, get you sucked in on credit, act all pious, the good times are rolling! Then WHAM, lower the boom, create a "depression", and walk away with your wealth for "pennies on the dollar". They just have to make sure they don't get too greedy, have some years in between their scam cycles,especially their larger ones, so people won't revolt against them.
How many factories or farms raptured away into the ether during the so called "great" depression? Zero, that's how many, just title in huge numbers got transferred up stream, all "legal". How convenient for them. Whoops, they also confiscated the gold back then, what a coincidence!
I would support a return to the original US monetary idea, but carry it a step further, to make the true monetary supply reflect produced wealth. I would recommend something along the lines of a monetary supply, that is not only backed and represented by precious metals at the top,those would be the representations called "money" as in coins, but by the top 100 commodities traded the previous fiscal year. These are quantifiable tangibles, produced wealth, verifiable, useful, and real. Those commodities could evolve around society's evolution and business. The supply itself could still be paper for day to day trading, or you would have the option of using the coins for the higher level currency, something durable and that can last. More than likely the coins themselves would become very valuable, with the ability to rise in value as humans work and produce wealth, sort of "interest" in a way, but not inflationary and 'borrowed into existence". The coins themselves raise in value, and the digits aren't as important, ie, example, it wouldn't matter if your 300 grand house now as represented in FRN's only "cost' 30 grand in "real" tangibles based money, or 3 grand for that matter, it really wouldn't matter, you'd still have the house,and no "new" money could be "borrowed into creation", it must represent true *produced* wealth, which is either grown, mined, or combined into a manufactured product. That's IT, that's what "wealth" is. "Money" is different, and eliminating the fraud potential with eliminating fiat currencies is a worthy goal, IMO.
I think keynesian economics and fractional reserve banking are just an absolute scam and lead to huge profits for people who have no moral claim to them other than through force of co-opted government arms and highly advanced shucksterism. It is a huge theft-by-deception,I mean really huge, it's buncoism on a grand scale. If you go back and research the passage of the federal reserve 'act' you will see how incredibly sneaky and bogus it was when it was voted on, because at the time it was reviled. If it worked in the long run we wouldn't be having governmental "debt", it would be impossible almost to even contemplate that, ie, you would find it impossible to "spend" that which you do not have. If fiat currencies had actual lasting value, then so could artificially high "stock" values, after all, it's essentially the same thing, a piece of paper or electronic entry that gets called as "worth" such and such when it is not in a
... no matter how new it is, what color it is, or how much hot air backs it. It's nuts. At least if they are going to use bogus fiat currency, use the mint, don't make the bills part of some private for-profit bank that can charge "interest" on them and make everyone indebted to them on bogus pretenses, then carefully control the supply based on PRODUCED WEALTH as an aggregate, tangible total, not on some vague debt/credit schemes.
It's the mother of all government scams. I think IIRC this is the third time the US has used phony money, the previous two times failed eventually after ripping people off and letting the crooks skedaddle.
BTW, Alan Greenspan, BEFORE he became chairman of the private "federal" reserve bank mega conjob, was totally against phony fiat money. totally, and he articulated a lot of good reasons why. Funny how someone's values change once they get bribed off and put into a position of extreme power, isn't it?
... a virtue, nor does it enhance your argument or viewpoint.
http://www.lawcom.com/immigration/chngs.shtml
"Will all children born in the US be citizens at birth?
There have been several news reports that a law was passed so that children born in the US of non-citizen parents will no longer be US citizens at birth. These reports are not accurate.
There has some discussion of such a change. The right of a person born in the US to be a citizen at birth comes from the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution passed in 1868 after the US Civil War. To change this would require amending the Constitution. It could not be done by passing a law.
To amend the Constitution, a proposed amendment must be passed by both Houses of Congress then ratified by the legislatures of three-quarters of the States. It is very difficult to get 38 States to agree on anything so amendments are not common. In over 200 years since adoption of the Constitution and the original Bill of Rights, there have been only 16 amendments to the US Constitution.
The idea of having some children born here treated differently and not be Citizens at birth is not a popular idea. In this writer's opinion, it is an extreme view held by a small minority at this time with little chance of being adopted as a Constitutional amendment.
So for now at least, all children born in the US subject to the jurisdiction of the US will continue to be US citizens at birth."
"at birth" Seems like simple words to understand.
I'm sure the actual codes can be found, and the amendment is quite clear. If it has changed, it's news to me and I can be educated on it.
here is an URL to a paper that discusses immigration (the combination of legal and illegal) as it applies to the public schools systems. FYI
http://www.fairus.org/html/schoolreport1.html
Like you, I have no problem with lawful immigration, in controlled numbers. I think it's a terrible injustice to those lawful immigrants who jump through all the legal hoops and follow the rules, when literally MILLIONS invade and cross the border yearly. The press is squashing the border stories, demonizing those poor ranchers down there who are being forced from their homes and into bankruptcy, and actually suffer physical harm from the invaders, let alone the out gunned federal cops at the border who are stripped of much power to do anything effective. We seem to have enough federal money to go build hundreds of new "border checkpoints" on the pakistan/afghanistan border, yet our own border is left completely wide open, which also goes to prove this whole "terrorism" nonsense is a political globalist scam and sham. Cities across the united states are being marginalized, just so a few people (relatively speaking) can benefit from second world cheap labor, ie they can "make more money" while their neighbors pick up the slack with the tax increases and crime increases.
And my previous point stands about aztlan and mecha, all you have to do is actually just go read their own words on their easily found websites, they DO in fact have a long range plan to seize and takeover large areas of the US, with a combination of massive illegal infiltration, changing the demographics of areas, seizing control of the infrastructure through "voting", then the final push for takeover. Force and violence in politics are COMMON in nations south of the US border, extremely common, yet the clueless ones think that that mindset will just magically go away by stepping over an imaginary dotted line on a map. Think palestinians/israelis or northern ireland or any other example to see where this will go. And it won't matter if even just 1/10th of one percent are actual true believer combattants, that's still a humongous number.
I first heard that idea way back in the 60's from two chicano "brown berets" I met who lived and worked out of chicago. They told me then exactly what is happening now-step by step, massive illegal immigration into key areas, then eventual guerrilla warfare. Heard that with me own ears, hmm, 68 near as I can recall now. Might have been 69 though, but I remember the gist of the conversation. At the time they thought it would take 20 to 50 years to really reach the tip over point where they had such numbers that they could be successful. Well, gee, sorta right on schedule now.
People here are too complacent, they think something like that can only happen "over there" in some place on the television. Clueless. Right in front of our faces, we'bve been sold out. Ship what jobs can be shipped overseas out, import massive numbers of illegals in to take what jobs can't be shipped out. Clear as a sunny spring day. When it was mostly blue collar jobs, it didn't garner as much attention, now you can see it with white and pink collar jobs, retail, office, manufacturing, agriculture, skilled trades, IT, you name it. We even have ELECTED people now who are dual mexican/US politicians and consider areas of the US to be defacto parts of mexico. I mean, ye gads, is this out of control or what? How is someone a citizen of two nations, why is this legal in this country? Isn't that sort of "treason" on the face of it?
It's unfortunate that often times this can be distracted by the invaders and their supporters playing the race card, because frankly I don't care, I am neither a racist nor a bigot, but I can see "invasion and social and economic cost" clear as day, so it doesn't matter to me who is doing it, just that it is happening. And for forked tongue government on the one hand claiming we have "laws" that make most of this illegal, then on the other hand just ignoring it and even encouraging it (free ed
--you have the right to sue, but if you want to stay on the good guys side, you have the right to educate all your customers as well. I'm sure most folks who get hacked or used as relays really don't want that to happen, they are just ignorant of what happens and what to do about it. Have you and your company done much in the way of educating those folks with _detailed_ instructions on how to maintain their machines and be good "netizens" then? Do you filter at the ISP level at all? Wouldn't efforts like that be better than just joining the endless sue, block, counter sue, counter block wars? You can even offer all your customers your partial solution, ask them if they would like to have their email address added to the nation domain blocking. I bet you'd get a lot of takers-not all, but a lot. maybe that is possible. I'm sure there are more solutions as well out there, but that isn't the main point.
The old saying goes like this --> "it is better to light one small candle than to curse the darkness".
SPAM is everyones (on the net) problem, so any solution that actually *works* will have to involve this "everyone" guy.
--I have read about it a lot,plus I know a lot of people who have switched, and they sure aren't switching back to public schools for their children. Both the public studies and the personal anecdotal I have seen refute your views and support mine, else I wouldn't have suggested it. If you have credible, non partisan studies that support your argument, by all means, point them out. Credible is the keyword. The only studies I have seen that refute the advantages of private schooling seem to always come from political action committes that represent public employee unions or similar. Frankly, most home school kids are several grade levels advanced of their public school peers in the geographical areas they are in. Granted, you can always find exceptions to generalities, but I was making a general statement of someplace to look at to start cutting state budgets. And it NEVER made any sense to bump up federal taxes to support a new federal cabinet level agency, so half the money can get skimmed just to run its bureaucratic self, to just turn around again and send the remainder of the money back to the local level. That's always been just... absurd, defies fiduciary logic.
You won't be able to make governments stay inside a budget until it's FORCED on them, so you need to get back to basics. Every layer of bureaucracy is that-another expensive layer. Every new "service" is another layer of expensive bureaucracy. The US did quite well years ago with total local control of education, spending less per pupil for better quality education. They just did, you can look up the figures. And because they (governments) just REFUSE to give up control,and the expense, once they have it, then that leaves voluntary family by family removal from the public controlled system to either home schooling or private schooling. The public schools get so much a head per pupil enrolled, because the feds hijacked that education system, OF COURSE you can find studies supporting that viewpoint. It's like brand X OS developer funding a study to show how their OS is so freeking great. What else is to be expected?
There are so little examples left of governmental fiscal responsibility combined with effectiveness that it's almost impossible to find many examples to point at.
We definetly need SOME government,I'm not an anrchist or completely "anti" government, but please, enough's enough. What we have now is completely out of control. COMPLETELY. And you will NEVER get one single government employee-elected, appointed, hired-on- to actually admit in public with their name and title that their "job" is unnecessary,ineffective, over paid, redundant or a drain on the economy or the public in general. At least I never heard of one, and I've been looking. They GOT THEIR WAY for decades and decades,it's BEEN their way, they had ALL the chances that exist! How many clues are needed to notice the quacking duck with feathers all over is, in fact, a duck? Now most states are in the red, and the federal government is in the red, their proof of their fiscal responsibility and effectiveness is clearly shown in their wallet bleeding pudding-they FAIL IT,BIGTIME FAIL IT. Look at the basic premise of this article, california, with those years and years of super economic prosperity and growth, worlds 7th largest economy, is BILLIONS in the red, no sign of it getting any better except to now raise taxes in as many ways as they can think of, despite blowing it with what they received before. Nuts! How can anyone rational defend that? So you say you "can't cut" "education"? Who says? why should you be rewarded with even more when it can be shown that it's not nearly as effective as they claim, and it costs more and more? IMO, EVERY governmental service, agency, employee needs to be reviewed, with zero exceptions. Bring back constitutionally LIMITED government, that's the only thing that will work at this point. Schools and public employees there are just as valid a place to look at as anything else. Or is rasing yet another generation of professional spo
--public "education" now in a rainbow of languages and dialects, it's a failure. It could almost be entirely replaced with homes schooling for minor education.
--criminal justice "system" where the bulk of the crimes committed are directly or indirectly related to the "war on drugs", which exists because by keeping them illegal it keeps the massive profits up, massive profits mean "crime" and associated violence. It's like liquid drug alcohol prohibition never happened, no lessons learned. They love it! It's a growth industry for government, completely successful and massively profitable, on several levels.
--completely out to lunch and uncontrolled illegal immigration. Remember, all those humans who should be back home making something of their own nations (and kicking their own dictators asses and hanging them) are in cal, requiring the same or larger amount of government services as all the legal people, with the added benefit of shipping a big part of their pay checks back home via western union and similar. And there's a thought, why not a 100% tax on exporting CASH out of the country? Someone please explain on how that benefits the US shipping cash out so that more illegals can pay the coyotes to sneak in?
In my little county here in georgia, just in three years time, the population has gone from under 15,000 to over 20,000, with almost completely these "new arrivals" being illegal immigrants. We have to build two new schools to handle all these new kids, plus the hospital went from breaking even to completely utterly in the red, it's broke, kaput. Oh yes, taxes have gone up. Want to hear a little goody? Local farms had a 300% increase in property valuation for taxes this year, even though none of them could sell those farms for 300% more, or have "enjoyed" a 300% increase in their net. And talk about being a blue collar guy looking for more work, sheesh o rama. I'm managing to pick up an odd job here and there, that's it. It is much less than "poverty level" if I extrapolate my earnings this year. Much less. And woe unto me if I can't pay my insurance on the car and get pulled over! That's illegal, funny, though, that illegal immigrants seem to be all over, no one gives a crap. A few fatcats use them for cheap labor, they profit, everyone else loses, but they got the local juice to keep it going. Hard to "vote the bums out" when the entire local power structure, D or R, is in on it. *Some* immigration we could handle here, not this level, it's just insane. And now we got GANGS, actual big city gangs who paint gang graffiti on the walls and there's been home invasions and shootings and whatnot that just slap didn't exist before. But, we get to say we are "multicultural" now!
Can't imagine how bad it is in cal now. Has to be at obscene levels. Everything I read from there is dropping wages,industries shrinking and going away, increasing government size and bloat, combined with a complete demographic take over (You got aztlan coming there, have fun) MECHA gonna ownz joo. And they think violence is a nifty tool as well, just read some of their websites. I remember reading back at the time of the "one time mass amnesty" for illegals the feds pulled in the reagan era. The "esteemed social scientists" claimed there wouldn't be a flip flop on demographics ntil around 2050 at the rates then, and the amnesty was promised to be carved in stone, that "the laws would be followed". Ya, that lasted a long time. And when will cal be an hispanic majority? In a few years now, something like that? Naw, that won't cause any more problems....
Back to the "net tax"--Like, who didn't see this coming? I can also see more restrictions on net access, up to probably licensing for admins and corporations who "use" the net. They'll get around to that sooner or later, because it allows a government another completely brand new layer of bureaucratic control, so they can sell you permit-ission slips. It's coming, you can smell
--it seems like most of the emphasis is on enterprise networks, but that still leaves millions and millions of home machines and small home networks just stuck. What do you see as some of the trends and solutions for those people? Their data and system integrity is just as important to them as any corporations is, and usually not having the appropriate skill set, is even harder to implement.
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--they already gave you the IPO money,it's yours, free loot, cool! So isn't it a good deal for you to just now buy back all your shares at that one dollar price so you don't have to deal with stock holders any more? Or are you just trying to keep selling more shares to live on while you do R&D?
those closed source voting machines? here in georgia despite both exit polling and pre polling showing otherwise, and a lot of poll day "glitches" that about disappeared from the news as fast as they were reported, we had a huge turnaround in which party become dominant. Biggest upsets since civil war days. Yes, just coincidental we were the first entire state to use the computer voting machines.
I really doubt the US vote is relevant anymore. If it needs to be "fixed" at any level, it can happen now, and no one can find out if it was. We are being presented with "trust, but no verify".
--there's another side to him, I just heard of it last year. this is a quote from gandhis autobiography.
"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon
the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
Make of it as you will. What I make of it is (have to admit I have not read the book so I invite a correction from anyone who has, if applicable),is that non violence is kinda of where it's at to resist with when you've already been disarmed. And of course, it depends on the circumstances, some beefs deserve non violence,passive resistance, but IMO, other beefs require a more active sort of resistance.
Speaking as an older civil rights marcher, then on to anti scam war and anti slavery draft protests, I think both techniques have their times and places. The correct tool for the job idea.
It ess time for zee apple money dance!
About time. Apple got a clue. Cheap singles, downloadable, mix and match. Just the formula that's been obvious for years now, just needed to be done on a big scale from a brand name outfit. Any of the big guys could have done this, software side, hardware side, music industry side. People asked them, they knew about it.
Just shows how many bad ideas can get investor money and interest, and how long a good idea can lay there begging to be picked up, even when millions of people are pointing at it, going "hey, look, a good idea!"
And just think the bigger push for better and cheaper broadband now, just from this one move, and it's a "legit" move, too, zero "controversy" about it or it's legality. It would be *nice* if it was cheaper than a dollar,and a scosh more flexible, but all in all it's a good start anyway.
--the "who profits?", yes this is true. the only obvious profit I can see from disrupting the irc nets is to stop the irc nets. who loses big time besides all the normal users from irc being up and running?
That's about it, and from the reactions I have gotten, I wish now I had STFU about it. Never thought I'd see what I am seeing with the frantic defense and subject changing. sorta again suspicious to me, but oh well, no one cares, I don't. I always forget that this is slashdot, I keep thinking it's a normal web forum, and I just need to learn my lesson on that. Just seemed obvious to me as ONE possible and maybe probable angle to look at, that it was a proactive attack from the people who said they were going to be doing that. guess I was just SO WRONG to even bring the subject up.
I sincerely hope that the elite ones can solve their problems with the irc being disrupted, that's about it, besides that, got no dog in the fight with music swppers, although I have written on it a lot,in defense of the swappers, I guess I'll leave the swappers to fight their own battles then,I'll skip my normal political contacts I work on the subject that I've develoiped over the years, I got more important things then the latest hollywood must-see block buster or some band I never heard of or some video game. I don't own one single mp3 or digital movie, I am more concerned with the integrity of the net. Maybe if everyone who trades gets hacked to pieces and taken down,gets fined, etc, it will slop over and get rid of the bulk of the virus writers and spammers, too. I'd bet a nickle that spammers and virus writers also snag filez, wouldn't you? Anyway, who knows who writes these things and turns them loose, maybe it'll be a good thing in the long run for people who don't want the net taken over by the bad people, maybe, no idea.
OK, it's a random normal virus, just sent out "because it's possible" and someone wants to brag about it, even if it's just to themselves just to gloat over. There ya go, that's exactly what it is, no other possibility. I'm done on this thread for now, thanks.
Gee, really going way out of your way to change the subject, huh? Wonder why that is? Got something to defend there? Chatting, irc, etc are way close enough to be referred to as a sort of P2P.
I can discuss with people, just don't "do" insults, which I certainbly didn't start,so if you or anyone else want to talk to me, do it without insults or get ignored from here on out. If you got proof of whomever is doing it, or a pet theory, why don't you discuss that instead? wouldn't that be more productive than arguing over picky word definitions that are arguably vague enough so that two different versions can be close enough to fit? OK, swell, irc chat is not pure P2P because it's not...whatever, it's something else, even though you can gather as a group, dcc between individuals, or whatever, because it's routed different or whatever. There, happy? Are you all glad now that you "win" some weird flame deal?
Take your winnings to the store, see what you can buy with it.
Have a good day, my handle is obvious,I use one handle on slashdot, don't reply to me anymore, I just don't like picky crap like this, it's a waste of time. If you can't figure out what my basic thoughts were, I;m sorry, they should have been taken just as a way to seque into the main idea, ie "warez and filez get traded there by people communicating with each other", ergo, it's a sort of P2P as opposed to a static http web page or ftp site people link to to download from. If that don't fit your picky detailed descriptions of what "P2P" is, frankly, I could care less. And last I knew, there isn't any official P2P overlord who has got the one and true legal definition of P2P anyplace, besides person 2 person or people 2 people. that could fit quite a lot of internet actions actually, BUT, we'll let uyou "win" that one, only the way you describe it is the one true "official" definition. All hail the official P2P uberdictator!
buzz off creepazoid, and you can have your "last word", go for it, have fun.
--oh, OK, I agree, it could be totally random. Definetly a possibility there. It's (the riaa/mpaa contractors as perps idea) just a possibility that is a shade above probability than your paint salesman and graffiti analogy. For that I would think "gang members" unless it was warchalking symbols. But you can disagree with that as well. And I never stated it as fact, I premised it with the word "possible" and with their stated intentions of doing similar, combined with evidence of them doing it already and other proacctive measures like the popup instant messages warnings, etc, combined with it being on kazaa, I can claim "common sense" 101 same as ya'all.
Also note, I never called this on any other worm or virus, just this one. Probably not an important or even known detail to you, but it is significant to me. I just smell a rat on this one, a shiny billionaire monopolist rat. I hope I am wrong though, really, I'd rather it was a normal script kiddie.
I have another theory as well, and I'm working on it now, and it's totally different, but at this time I can't show any verification of it, so I'll skip it unless I can come up with some evidence.
I just like mysteries, sorta fun for me.
--yes, it's hard even from your net and op positions to keep warez and filez out, so look at it from the riaa, mpaa angle. to them, tryinmg to find and destroy every individual is a huge project, SO, maybe some mastermind there thought it would be easier to just trash irc in general. When the military does it, any innocents who get trashed are called 'collateral damage", and usually they don't care all that much, it's the spin doctor spokesweasels problems then. and with the nature of the attacks, they got layers if insulation for "plausible deniability", even though they announced "pro active" attacks, unless there's a smoking gun found, they can claim stoopid and innocent.
just a few thoughts. I like IRC, been using it since--forget now, 93 maybe? I claim zogheimers on that, heh. Not a lot but since then. Shame to see something so cool always struggling. It's always something.
--hey, go suck a rotten lemon. Ya you, talking to you, don't need your bogus technical skillz to define little miniscule picky points. You know exactly what I was saying, and so does everyone else here.. You are about as elite as roadkill, nimrod. It's close enough with the referenced topic to pass muster. It's a big net that in a lot of instances is used for file trading, and by your own admission, you can do person to person. By you definition, kazaa wouldn't be a P2P, because it uses other peoples routers on the internet, you aren't telnetting between people individually.
Get over yourself. Save your insults for yore momma, she deserves it.
they sure did, and I hope they keep getting caught at it. The first time some senator or senators kid or wife gets nailed, you'll see them throttle back that crap, and pronto. Until then, you have to conisder that it's basically a war, and you won't get any help from joe bribed/blackmailed government.
And you think on that, who has buckets of actual cash for bribes,which industry is rife with illegal drugs to use, and who has access to a lot of starving actors and actresses and wannabes who might be persuaded to...how to put this delicately.. to "perform" on candid camera to get a video tape to use in "persuasion" to get a government official to see things a certain way?
"who profits?" apply it to crimes, 90% of the time you got your perp, pretty much a cut and dried formula. Not totally accurate, but dang good track record over the years.
The entire idea of IRC is communications between individuals. Some is direct, some is centralised, that part doesn't matter. It's a P2P network, and one of the significant ways files get traded. it's also off the radar screens of most people, joe user uses instant messenger whatnot,he won't even care if IRC exists or not, they never even heard of it, but some serious activity with trading goes on in IRC, and always has. Hence, "who profits?" from corrupting it. What cop is gonna give a care if IRC goes down? the FIBBers only investigate once you've crossed a verifiable 5,000$ business loss threshold. Who on IRC is gonna even claim that? Ya, they cruise for illegal porn, but I doubt they could care less if IRC is made unusable, just one less thing they have to deal with.
I still think the named perps I speculated on are high on the list of possible suspects, probably through "independent contractors".
We need another label too, white hat, gray hat and black hat don't even fit, I'd term those malicious coders cammiehats, because all they are is another form of no morals or ethics mercenaries. Like in meat world, where they will kill anyone for a paycheck, in cyber world, they will attack and destroy anyone for a paycheck.
I have no PROOF, just I got a good sniffer for crimes it appears, noticed it for so long now I've come to rely on it, at least for a first reaction, a point to start at for looking for more clues.
--anyone else get the impression this is a pro active anti "piracy" move by the music and movie monopolists? That's what I thought of when I first read about this a couple of days ago. Looks like an attempt to shutdown channels of P2P-ish nets.
Anyway, that's how I think with crimes, use flatfoot 101, "who profits?".
---the idea is missing a huge segment of the population that has money, mobility,and camps out in weird areas. yas das right, I'm talking about retired geezers in RVs,people with a lot of spare cash and loot, who are into gadgets, have complete mobile power sources, and get bored silly and are up for a hoot now and then. You look at the number of campgrounds spread across the US and the number of RV's out there (where a lot of the "wireless internet" momentum and interest is coming from, believe me, they want the internet in those rigs) you might have another group of thousands, tens of thousands willing to participate, especially if it's billed as a way to start designing a permanent wireless internet.
Now, add in long haul truckers, who again are quite familiar with modding and hacking, use a variety of radios and computers now.
Add those two groups to the mix, I don't see any problem making the coast to coast jump, even across those scary "heartland" places with wild dangerous things, like cows and trees and 100 miles of corn.
Hey, here's another, biker clubs, they might be up for it too. Lot of guys who can afford 20 grand harleys or goldwings as toys *also* got computers.
There's probably more, but that's the idea, instead of trying to get one big "club" of people, most of those clubs already exist, enlist members in each, they'll find the other people inside their "clubs" to help out, if I can call long hault truckers and RVers as a club, or just a demographic group tyo be closer.
--the "Fed" is in an unusual situation of tgheir own making, because of the nature of using phony money. On one hand, they want a 'strong dollar", so tyhat joe sixpack can buy cheap imports. On the other hand, they want a "weak dollar" so that our exports can be sold overseas easier.
So let's look at what they are doing to go along with this dichotomy (apparent).
destroying the vertical manufacturing base, the real deal when it comes to creating wealth and not just re-arranging wealth. check, moving that stuff offshore as fast as they can.
OK, that leaves agriculture. Whoops, other nations are taking those markets, and fast.
Well, then, mining, that's it, that's the last of actual wealth producing industries. whoops again, "ponderosa mine closed due to the flying three eyed newt owl that nests in the varigated spiderwort".
Hmm, gee.... but but, stuff at the store is still cheap!
why yes, as long as you still have a job and keep using them credit cards!
HAHAHAHAH
It's just SO obvious the great rip-off is coming! It's gonna make the great depression look like a lemonade stand stickup!
I think the scam they will use to stifle dissent then and to impose drastic "police" presence and stop the riots will be biological in origin.
Cut to the US movie set --> "Que biological terrorist attack, take one!"
Telling small lies is hard, it's those really big ones that are easy it appears.
I remember my grandmothers and great aunts telling me about the great depression scam, how tons of the local real estate just shifted hands up stream.
got another one here local. civil war time, south loses, carpet baggers come down. Well, confederate money gets declared "illegal" it's made worthless, you need "union" money. Deal was, no one who lived down here had any "union" money. when the tax came due,or the farm bank note, surprise, no money to pay it. Carpetbaggers picked up entire farms around here for 50 or 60 cents. entire farms. To this day there's two families local here will not speak to each other.
True facts on what happens when your fiat money gets blown out. And lookeee just recent down in argentina, what happened there. It don't matter to US folks much because those are "foreigners on the TV",and "it can't happen here".
Uh huh, yep. It only already happened to peoples grand parents or great grandparents, but it's "impossible" to happen. "just because"
Mostly your are correct, I own "stuff", tangibles. I do business in tangibles as much as possible, sorta hard, but not impossible. I saw what was going to happen in the go-go 90's when I saw how incredibly greedy people can be, and what they think money and wealth are. It's like no one stops to think 'wealth" can't be created out of thin air, it has to be a human being doing something to create "wealth".
Ya, I'm holding out for the next two bubbles, real estate and derivatives. I should do OK then with my "loony" tangibles. I believe in metals, gold, silver, steel, brass, copper and lead. Good stuff.
I'd like to see a *real* "ask slashdot" of all the differences, too. Of course it might de-evolve into a flamefest, but I'd still like to see the attempt made.
--old famous book, "The Compleat Angler" by Izaac Walton
I have a pet name for cookie cutter subdivisions like that, and for all I know there's probably a real one or three out there. I call them all (in my silly mind) "creekwoode pointe estates" with the olde englishe extra e. Those are the larger ones, smaller ones I call "ridgeview". That seems to cover most of them anyway. It's like they are taught that as an example at real estate/developer school or something and it just sticks.
Another favorite of mine is "starter homes". I always equated that with like "training bras".
I think it was george carlin maybe, can't remember now, but another one, as a question --> "why do we park on driveways and drive on parkways?"
Ya, what's up with that anyway??
Language is pretty funny sometimes.
Back to the names deal, I lived atlanta metro for a long time, there's like almost 3 dozen different "peachtree" whatever streets. Hysterical. Well, if you got a warped sense of humor like I have it is.
Cars-they all have to sound "tough", macho, and the ones that don't..well, that's capitalism for you. I don't count cars with just letters and numbers, no language-sport there.
Gremlins??? Never had a chance. Yugo? Huh? -insert bubba voice- "ain't that that furrin money?" And KIA???? Killed in Action??? I want to drive one of them babies? I don't think so.....probably nice cars and all, but I don't think so.....
Of course, I drive a Jeep, a small mythical creature that inhabits --uhh was it from popeye cartoons? I think so, little fantasy critters. I know it comes from GPxx-government whatever, but still.... language=funny
--I addressed those points somewhat more in detail in a reply/follow up down the thread. I think our posts crossed paths. I'm running in and writing then running outside and working, mucho glorious spring day here!
.. you have to differentiate between the concept of "money" and produced "wealth". You are correct, anything can be made "money" and used, especially at gunpoint and by inertia. the difference is, when your "moeny" is backed by a tangible, it cannot be inflated or deflated arbitarily. it can't be scammed or conned or disappeared or created by trickery. It's (precious metals now) also by far and away the oldest, most used and most "trusted" human currency, all the way back to pre biblical times. And you may still rest assurred, the very high level dudes on the planet still "trust" it. They just don't want you peons to use it, that's all, but they sure do. Don't believe me, go up to any big bullion holding bank and ask for a free sample of their worthless or near worthless precious metals.
They want you to keep using that counterfeit crap they print up, sweet deal for them! they can create boom/bust cycles, get you sucked in on credit, act all pious, the good times are rolling! Then WHAM, lower the boom, create a "depression", and walk away with your wealth for "pennies on the dollar". They just have to make sure they don't get too greedy, have some years in between their scam cycles,especially their larger ones, so people won't revolt against them.
How many factories or farms raptured away into the ether during the so called "great" depression? Zero, that's how many, just title in huge numbers got transferred up stream, all "legal". How convenient for them. Whoops, they also confiscated the gold back then, what a coincidence!
I would support a return to the original US monetary idea, but carry it a step further, to make the true monetary supply reflect produced wealth. I would recommend something along the lines of a monetary supply, that is not only backed and represented by precious metals at the top,those would be the representations called "money" as in coins, but by the top 100 commodities traded the previous fiscal year. These are quantifiable tangibles, produced wealth, verifiable, useful, and real. Those commodities could evolve around society's evolution and business. The supply itself could still be paper for day to day trading, or you would have the option of using the coins for the higher level currency, something durable and that can last. More than likely the coins themselves would become very valuable, with the ability to rise in value as humans work and produce wealth, sort of "interest" in a way, but not inflationary and 'borrowed into existence". The coins themselves raise in value, and the digits aren't as important, ie, example, it wouldn't matter if your 300 grand house now as represented in FRN's only "cost' 30 grand in "real" tangibles based money, or 3 grand for that matter, it really wouldn't matter, you'd still have the house,and no "new" money could be "borrowed into creation", it must represent true *produced* wealth, which is either grown, mined, or combined into a manufactured product. That's IT, that's what "wealth" is. "Money" is different, and eliminating the fraud potential with eliminating fiat currencies is a worthy goal, IMO.
I think keynesian economics and fractional reserve banking are just an absolute scam and lead to huge profits for people who have no moral claim to them other than through force of co-opted government arms and highly advanced shucksterism. It is a huge theft-by-deception,I mean really huge, it's buncoism on a grand scale. If you go back and research the passage of the federal reserve 'act' you will see how incredibly sneaky and bogus it was when it was voted on, because at the time it was reviled. If it worked in the long run we wouldn't be having governmental "debt", it would be impossible almost to even contemplate that, ie, you would find it impossible to "spend" that which you do not have. If fiat currencies had actual lasting value, then so could artificially high "stock" values, after all, it's essentially the same thing, a piece of paper or electronic entry that gets called as "worth" such and such when it is not in a
... no matter how new it is, what color it is, or how much hot air backs it. It's nuts. At least if they are going to use bogus fiat currency, use the mint, don't make the bills part of some private for-profit bank that can charge "interest" on them and make everyone indebted to them on bogus pretenses, then carefully control the supply based on PRODUCED WEALTH as an aggregate, tangible total, not on some vague debt/credit schemes.
It's the mother of all government scams. I think IIRC this is the third time the US has used phony money, the previous two times failed eventually after ripping people off and letting the crooks skedaddle.
Representative Ron Pauls efforts, a good quick read
BTW, Alan Greenspan, BEFORE he became chairman of the private "federal" reserve bank mega conjob, was totally against phony fiat money. totally, and he articulated a lot of good reasons why. Funny how someone's values change once they get bribed off and put into a position of extreme power, isn't it?
... a virtue, nor does it enhance your argument or viewpoint.
http://www.lawcom.com/immigration/chngs.shtml
"Will all children born in the US be citizens at birth?
There have been several news reports that a law was passed so that children born in the US of non-citizen parents will no longer be US citizens at birth. These reports are not accurate.
There has some discussion of such a change. The right of a person born in the US to be a citizen at birth comes from the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution passed in 1868 after the US Civil War. To change this would require amending the Constitution. It could not be done by passing a law.
To amend the Constitution, a proposed amendment must be passed by both Houses of Congress then ratified by the legislatures of three-quarters of the States. It is very difficult to get 38 States to agree on anything so amendments are not common. In over 200 years since adoption of the Constitution and the original Bill of Rights, there have been only 16 amendments to the US Constitution.
The idea of having some children born here treated differently and not be Citizens at birth is not a popular idea. In this writer's opinion, it is an extreme view held by a small minority at this time with little chance of being adopted as a Constitutional amendment.
So for now at least, all children born in the US subject to the jurisdiction of the US will continue to be US citizens at birth."
"at birth" Seems like simple words to understand.
I'm sure the actual codes can be found, and the amendment is quite clear. If it has changed, it's news to me and I can be educated on it.
here is an URL to a paper that discusses immigration (the combination of legal and illegal) as it applies to the public schools systems. FYI
http://www.fairus.org/html/schoolreport1.html
Like you, I have no problem with lawful immigration, in controlled numbers. I think it's a terrible injustice to those lawful immigrants who jump through all the legal hoops and follow the rules, when literally MILLIONS invade and cross the border yearly. The press is squashing the border stories, demonizing those poor ranchers down there who are being forced from their homes and into bankruptcy, and actually suffer physical harm from the invaders, let alone the out gunned federal cops at the border who are stripped of much power to do anything effective. We seem to have enough federal money to go build hundreds of new "border checkpoints" on the pakistan/afghanistan border, yet our own border is left completely wide open, which also goes to prove this whole "terrorism" nonsense is a political globalist scam and sham. Cities across the united states are being marginalized, just so a few people (relatively speaking) can benefit from second world cheap labor, ie they can "make more money" while their neighbors pick up the slack with the tax increases and crime increases.
And my previous point stands about aztlan and mecha, all you have to do is actually just go read their own words on their easily found websites, they DO in fact have a long range plan to seize and takeover large areas of the US, with a combination of massive illegal infiltration, changing the demographics of areas, seizing control of the infrastructure through "voting", then the final push for takeover. Force and violence in politics are COMMON in nations south of the US border, extremely common, yet the clueless ones think that that mindset will just magically go away by stepping over an imaginary dotted line on a map. Think palestinians/israelis or northern ireland or any other example to see where this will go. And it won't matter if even just 1/10th of one percent are actual true believer combattants, that's still a humongous number.
I first heard that idea way back in the 60's from two chicano "brown berets" I met who lived and worked out of chicago. They told me then exactly what is happening now-step by step, massive illegal immigration into key areas, then eventual guerrilla warfare. Heard that with me own ears, hmm, 68 near as I can recall now. Might have been 69 though, but I remember the gist of the conversation. At the time they thought it would take 20 to 50 years to really reach the tip over point where they had such numbers that they could be successful. Well, gee, sorta right on schedule now.
People here are too complacent, they think something like that can only happen "over there" in some place on the television. Clueless. Right in front of our faces, we'bve been sold out. Ship what jobs can be shipped overseas out, import massive numbers of illegals in to take what jobs can't be shipped out. Clear as a sunny spring day. When it was mostly blue collar jobs, it didn't garner as much attention, now you can see it with white and pink collar jobs, retail, office, manufacturing, agriculture, skilled trades, IT, you name it. We even have ELECTED people now who are dual mexican/US politicians and consider areas of the US to be defacto parts of mexico. I mean, ye gads, is this out of control or what? How is someone a citizen of two nations, why is this legal in this country? Isn't that sort of "treason" on the face of it?
It's unfortunate that often times this can be distracted by the invaders and their supporters playing the race card, because frankly I don't care, I am neither a racist nor a bigot, but I can see "invasion and social and economic cost" clear as day, so it doesn't matter to me who is doing it, just that it is happening. And for forked tongue government on the one hand claiming we have "laws" that make most of this illegal, then on the other hand just ignoring it and even encouraging it (free ed
--you have the right to sue, but if you want to stay on the good guys side, you have the right to educate all your customers as well. I'm sure most folks who get hacked or used as relays really don't want that to happen, they are just ignorant of what happens and what to do about it. Have you and your company done much in the way of educating those folks with _detailed_ instructions on how to maintain their machines and be good "netizens" then? Do you filter at the ISP level at all? Wouldn't efforts like that be better than just joining the endless sue, block, counter sue, counter block wars? You can even offer all your customers your partial solution, ask them if they would like to have their email address added to the nation domain blocking. I bet you'd get a lot of takers-not all, but a lot. maybe that is possible. I'm sure there are more solutions as well out there, but that isn't the main point.
The old saying goes like this --> "it is better to light one small candle than to curse the darkness".
SPAM is everyones (on the net) problem, so any solution that actually *works* will have to involve this "everyone" guy.
--I have read about it a lot,plus I know a lot of people who have switched, and they sure aren't switching back to public schools for their children. Both the public studies and the personal anecdotal I have seen refute your views and support mine, else I wouldn't have suggested it. If you have credible, non partisan studies that support your argument, by all means, point them out. Credible is the keyword. The only studies I have seen that refute the advantages of private schooling seem to always come from political action committes that represent public employee unions or similar. Frankly, most home school kids are several grade levels advanced of their public school peers in the geographical areas they are in. Granted, you can always find exceptions to generalities, but I was making a general statement of someplace to look at to start cutting state budgets. And it NEVER made any sense to bump up federal taxes to support a new federal cabinet level agency, so half the money can get skimmed just to run its bureaucratic self, to just turn around again and send the remainder of the money back to the local level. That's always been just... absurd, defies fiduciary logic.
You won't be able to make governments stay inside a budget until it's FORCED on them, so you need to get back to basics. Every layer of bureaucracy is that-another expensive layer. Every new "service" is another layer of expensive bureaucracy. The US did quite well years ago with total local control of education, spending less per pupil for better quality education. They just did, you can look up the figures. And because they (governments) just REFUSE to give up control,and the expense, once they have it, then that leaves voluntary family by family removal from the public controlled system to either home schooling or private schooling. The public schools get so much a head per pupil enrolled, because the feds hijacked that education system, OF COURSE you can find studies supporting that viewpoint. It's like brand X OS developer funding a study to show how their OS is so freeking great. What else is to be expected?
There are so little examples left of governmental fiscal responsibility combined with effectiveness that it's almost impossible to find many examples to point at.
We definetly need SOME government,I'm not an anrchist or completely "anti" government, but please, enough's enough. What we have now is completely out of control. COMPLETELY. And you will NEVER get one single government employee-elected, appointed, hired-on- to actually admit in public with their name and title that their "job" is unnecessary,ineffective, over paid, redundant or a drain on the economy or the public in general. At least I never heard of one, and I've been looking. They GOT THEIR WAY for decades and decades,it's BEEN their way, they had ALL the chances that exist! How many clues are needed to notice the quacking duck with feathers all over is, in fact, a duck? Now most states are in the red, and the federal government is in the red, their proof of their fiscal responsibility and effectiveness is clearly shown in their wallet bleeding pudding-they FAIL IT,BIGTIME FAIL IT. Look at the basic premise of this article, california, with those years and years of super economic prosperity and growth, worlds 7th largest economy, is BILLIONS in the red, no sign of it getting any better except to now raise taxes in as many ways as they can think of, despite blowing it with what they received before. Nuts! How can anyone rational defend that? So you say you "can't cut" "education"? Who says? why should you be rewarded with even more when it can be shown that it's not nearly as effective as they claim, and it costs more and more? IMO, EVERY governmental service, agency, employee needs to be reviewed, with zero exceptions. Bring back constitutionally LIMITED government, that's the only thing that will work at this point. Schools and public employees there are just as valid a place to look at as anything else. Or is rasing yet another generation of professional spo
I agree with you.
--a few places to look at for cutting in cal
--public "education" now in a rainbow of languages and dialects, it's a failure. It could almost be entirely replaced with homes schooling for minor education.
--criminal justice "system" where the bulk of the crimes committed are directly or indirectly related to the "war on drugs", which exists because by keeping them illegal it keeps the massive profits up, massive profits mean "crime" and associated violence. It's like liquid drug alcohol prohibition never happened, no lessons learned. They love it! It's a growth industry for government, completely successful and massively profitable, on several levels.
--completely out to lunch and uncontrolled illegal immigration. Remember, all those humans who should be back home making something of their own nations (and kicking their own dictators asses and hanging them) are in cal, requiring the same or larger amount of government services as all the legal people, with the added benefit of shipping a big part of their pay checks back home via western union and similar. And there's a thought, why not a 100% tax on exporting CASH out of the country? Someone please explain on how that benefits the US shipping cash out so that more illegals can pay the coyotes to sneak in?
In my little county here in georgia, just in three years time, the population has gone from under 15,000 to over 20,000, with almost completely these "new arrivals" being illegal immigrants. We have to build two new schools to handle all these new kids, plus the hospital went from breaking even to completely utterly in the red, it's broke, kaput. Oh yes, taxes have gone up. Want to hear a little goody? Local farms had a 300% increase in property valuation for taxes this year, even though none of them could sell those farms for 300% more, or have "enjoyed" a 300% increase in their net. And talk about being a blue collar guy looking for more work, sheesh o rama. I'm managing to pick up an odd job here and there, that's it. It is much less than "poverty level" if I extrapolate my earnings this year. Much less. And woe unto me if I can't pay my insurance on the car and get pulled over! That's illegal, funny, though, that illegal immigrants seem to be all over, no one gives a crap. A few fatcats use them for cheap labor, they profit, everyone else loses, but they got the local juice to keep it going. Hard to "vote the bums out" when the entire local power structure, D or R, is in on it. *Some* immigration we could handle here, not this level, it's just insane. And now we got GANGS, actual big city gangs who paint gang graffiti on the walls and there's been home invasions and shootings and whatnot that just slap didn't exist before. But, we get to say we are "multicultural" now!
Can't imagine how bad it is in cal now. Has to be at obscene levels. Everything I read from there is dropping wages,industries shrinking and going away, increasing government size and bloat, combined with a complete demographic take over (You got aztlan coming there, have fun) MECHA gonna ownz joo. And they think violence is a nifty tool as well, just read some of their websites. I remember reading back at the time of the "one time mass amnesty" for illegals the feds pulled in the reagan era. The "esteemed social scientists" claimed there wouldn't be a flip flop on demographics ntil around 2050 at the rates then, and the amnesty was promised to be carved in stone, that "the laws would be followed". Ya, that lasted a long time. And when will cal be an hispanic majority? In a few years now, something like that? Naw, that won't cause any more problems....
Back to the "net tax"--Like, who didn't see this coming? I can also see more restrictions on net access, up to probably licensing for admins and corporations who "use" the net. They'll get around to that sooner or later, because it allows a government another completely brand new layer of bureaucratic control, so they can sell you permit-ission slips. It's coming, you can smell
--it seems like most of the emphasis is on enterprise networks, but that still leaves millions and millions of home machines and small home networks just stuck. What do you see as some of the trends and solutions for those people? Their data and system integrity is just as important to them as any corporations is, and usually not having the appropriate skill set, is even harder to implement.