remember last summer and the summer before?
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--remember the drought this year and last year, and how huge humongous areas of the US west burnt down? I have no idea how many millions and millions of trees lost to fire. Too bad they couldn't have been sanely and selectably logged, turned into lumber for homes and furniture. Instead we got a zillion tons of particulate soot, CO2 and etc, plus, the lost homes and businesses-humans hopes and dreams-lost work and lastly the firefighters who lost their lives. Remember the firefighters-all young people, pretty new to firefighting, who burnt alive because the government wouldn't allow water to be taken from a stream because of some minnows, until it was too late?
Anyway, there's one source of housing going begging, all so that primarily well meaning and well intenioned but sorta naieve city people can "feel good" about the environment. "Feel good"-itis causes as much famine and lack of affordable housing as anything else. Both extremes are blatantly flawed here, massive rape styled clear cutting is wrong-and so is this opposite of severely restricting normal human activities in a rural setting. Farming, ranching, logging, mining-all are necessary human activites. They provide goods-food, building materials, the raw materials from which everything is made. You can't have it both ways, you can't have a world with "enough" for all unless it's "allowed" to do those things necessary to bring it about.
--that's the zinger, they have to prove any published criticsms of the government are false and slanderous and malicious. And "opinion" doesn't enter in to it,as any "opinion" is not the same as a declarative statement of fact.
--I live in a rual area. I'd guesstimate that within a one mile radius of where I live the medium age is at least 50 (or close to that), ie, not a whole lotta kids around here,mostly neo geezers or geezers. Almost every household around here has an online computer now. Most of these folks are retired or close to it, and buy stuff online. Reason I know this is because I am the local nerd and get called on by the neighbors to help fix or explain this or that. They usually have much older machines-well I do too, but still, online is online, it doesn't require the very latest bleeding edge that younger folks get, primarily for gaming purposes it appears. Hmm, I'm thinking of this one millionaire contractor I do occassional work for, he's only running an old 300 mghz (or so) machine that his son gave him. He could go buy a brand new whatever, and has no need so he doesn't. Just like his pickup he drives around, he could afford a brand new one and just isn't buying one, he has no need at this point. Yet he owns hundreds of acres has a huge house, plays with his horses, goes on trips and vacations, etc. In other words generalizations can be deceiving.
ya, I try to do this anyway, the "help fix this or that" part..... too funny really.....
As to this company's predictions, I bet they can get close enough using available data mining techniques. We don't really have any indication how extensive their collation efforts are, but given what we know about virtually every industry selling/sharing it's data, combined with web surfing mappage, they probably can get a reasonable approximation, and every day they add to it it gets 'better". Even most states sell demographic info, credit histories, zipcodes are tied to al of this as in past dead trees bulk mailings, what you buy all the way from grocery store shopping cards to banking records are all avaialable now. Combine this with surfing habits, well, that's a lot of decent data to work from..
--thanks for the reply, I will clarify my position a little. I think the "left versus right" paradigm is the most dangerous one to get into. That's the point it appears most people get stuck at, hence, we go around and around every election with people who are victims pointing fingers at each other, not realising they are puppets getting their strings pulled. I'm more interested in the identity of ther puppet masters, the string pullers, and to expose them for what they are doing and who they are. This two class society model they appear to like is that "technofuedalism" model, most notably illustrated in current mainland china. That country is also the nation that is experiencing the most interest and largest development. If these various companies didn't like what they saw there, they wouldn't go there, and my position is it goes even beyond crass bottom line short term profits. I mean, really, pick some firtune 500 company hauling ass into china, we are supposed to believe they haven't noticed it's a pure heinous dictatorsip with death campsand torture and no political dissent and bad news etc/ I'm not that naieve and I don't think they are, reality is-they don't care, they LIKE that scene. They want that same sort of scene inside the US. You can't do that weith an empowered and robust middle class, you can only accomplish that when the economic slevels are even further apart than they currently are. I am of the opinion that they "dig" on the idea of a master/serf society. Now this is a generalization, I admit it, but my opinion is, once these various international very large level owners/bosses get a 'taste" of what it means to be neo-royalty in these various second world nations, they just want it constantly like an addict wants a fix. It goes beyond just mere cash. It's the power, the ability to order things done well beyond what a "normal" western civilized nation allows. The feudal system, what in times past the "lords" enjoyed over their populations, to have actual power and control over human beings. Total power and total control. It's just "today" however, not the past "ye olden dayes", and it's easier for them to skip that "royal" sounding label nonsense and instead use acronyms and legalese and the power to manipulate currencies and employment and living-values levels over large amounts of various populations, ie, to not only be above the law but to become "the law".
I agree that companies should reward their employees, and that employees should work hard to make the company successful. the deal is, it's pretty hard to do that if you have been working hard and still lose your job. It's amatter of degree, it's happening now that huge numbers of people no matter how skilled or in what industry are losing their jobs. It's a de-evolution of the creation of the middle classes, traditionally the true background of successfuleconomies. In history we can see the most successful nations are those with the largest middle classes. On-purpose destruction of the middle class must therefore be planned, and it appears the plan is to replace the basic three class model that is working back to the older two class model. We are being told by our economic and political "leaders" that this globalism model is the way to go and will be better for everyone. Well, where's the beef? I distinctly remember when one even modest blue collar income was more than ample to support a family with home ownership, many children, a car, etc, now, this is not possible, it just isn't happening. It takes two mid level and above incomes-blue collar skilled or higher level white collar skilled- to accomplish more or less the same living strata. hmm, what ain't computing here? People are confusing credit with produced wealth and ownership. those are completely different *things* but are being touted as *the same* and still most people believe this.
I'm not an IT guy, I'm a blue collar guy who likes and uses technology. Been watching the destruction of the blue collar economy for years and writing on it. Yes, mostly the white collars were derisive and not caring in the past, quite rude and naieve, IMO, because they still "had their's" so it didn't matter to them, and now that it's affecting some of them they are waking up. This is good and bad, good that maybe they can look and see what the larger picture is, bad is that it still is happening, and it doesn't, hasn't, and won't matter if 'dems' or 'repubs' are in any various office or control. Those two parties are two sides to the same rotten coin. You get the same results with minor cosmetic differences. I've just been watching politics too long to not notice this, it's so obvious I take it as a default.
There are some pretty vital clues. The extremely destructive and unchecked illegal immigrant invasion. This is just so blatantly destructive, it's designed to slap back any gains made by blue collars over the past several decades. It also goes to help defuse the resistance to oligarchy in mexico and other areas, they are using the US as a dumping ground for their revolutionary potential, to protect the castillian racist "masters" down there. In other words, our fatcats are helping mexico's fatcats, in order to keep mexico technofeudal, and to increase the potential for complete technofeudalism inside the US. On a slightly higher scale, exporting skilled blue collar jobs by outright factory relocation, again, short term profits. US companies get tax breaks to do this! Tax breaks! Economics 101 says without customers you don't sell anything, and removing jobs en masse like what has been happening is removing customers. Concurrently they still issue "credit" to these same people, so you have to ask the obvious "why"? The only high level answer I can see is because eventually these people become economically destroyed, turn into second world styled citizens,completely indebted their entire lives. This is not good, unless you happen to be the credit issuer, then it's great, you now "own" people. Technofuedalism=modern slavery, codified into law by stealth means. The old "company store" model carried to nation-state size, they 0\/\/ |\| j00. Hmm, getting owned is not really a good thing. Well, that's usually what most folks think.
Yes, I'm rambling still not enough coffee intake, but I touched on a few subjects there, hope it's claified a little. I'm looking to eliminate the "awareness" boundaries between the traditional mid-level white collar and blue collar and to get both those aspects of society to admit and see that they are being used and abused and the abusers are the same guys and that it's part of a rather nasty agenda, that agenda the global two class society. This is called loosely the "NWO" and is a "bad idea" IMO.
...well, right off the bat in your list, the truck drivers? If you had been reading the non-tech news you *might* have noticed that now mexican 5$ a DAY truck drivers are now legal to drive all over the united states. This has just happened.
Don't worry, your white collar tech job is going as well, get used to the idea. Only the timeline might be different for different people and jobs, but basically, if you are any sort of middle class in the US, you are now surplus population to the globalists. You are not only replaceable, you WILL be replaced.
It is NOT going to be nice, in fact, it's going to be pretty hellish once it really starts hitting hard. Give it some time.
Want an example of what these globalists can do once they set their minds to it, to the middle class of a nation? Look at argentina two years ago, one year ago, and now.
--what you said is true, but it's not an either/or situation. A long time ago I was in the UAW, and for sure the rank and file completely dismissed the threat of japanese inroads, it was laughable to them (not to me I saw it coming) and managment back then was completely out to lunch coke addled morons. BUT, another thing happened, japan not only sold cheaper cars initially, they "dumped" them, ie, sold them BELOW COST to themselves in order to garner longer term brand loyalty and market share. Exactly what they are currently doing with the hybrid cars as well. They also put a HUGE number of restrictions on US imports into japan, and we-our "leaders" just ate it.
To me it should be a quid pro quo, you tariff us, we tariff you right back. You won't allow US people to own property there (japan, mexico, china) they shouldn't be allowed to purchase and own anything here.
Our leaders are sell-outs, and they play the left versus right, repub versus dem,white collar versus blue collar angles against us, keep everyone faked out as they are creating a global two class technofuedal society. The US middle class is the biggest hindrance to those efforts, that's why you see them gleefully destroying first the blue collar manufacturing and agricultural jobs (white collars never cared for those people while this was happening), now they will be destroying the white collar jobs (and of a suddent the white collars are going HEY! what's going on?). They won't "run out" of technology, nor will these uber international pirate bosses "go broke" or lack for anything, they just prefer the master/serf style society, and are willing to trade off the loss of customers to a great degree. The bonus money to them is they get to keep constantly keep transferring ownership of all the land and buildings upstream into fewer hands. A headline last night, mortgage defaults at 30 year high. This isn't an accident, it's part of "the plan". Get people to establish credit well beyond any rational level, WELL beyond that, get them shilled into the phony manipuylated stock market, then destroy their jobs and income, poof, the uber bosses get to legally own everything. In the meantime they set people -the white collar and blue collar victims-squabbling with each other using propoganda and media manipulation with the "political" system with *one* political party with two names. It's a great scam for them and is working right on schedule. One of the easier ways to see the scam is to look at "official" unemployment figures, which are approximately 1/2 of what the real numbers are. How they do that? simple, they stop counting people who have exhausted unemployment insurance, they don't count people extremely under-employed in very low paying part time jobs, and they also really messed with consumer cost of living indices by taking out food and energy costs, which they used to include.
The economy is much worse than they admit to, despite wallmarts impressive figures. I'd like to see a breakdown of how much walmart's sales are cash versus credit card the other day.
Two other economic indicators, look at large banks derivatives exposure, then look at fortune 500 pension funding, and government pension funding and projected cost of social security and medicare/medicaid.
It's pretty dismal right now.
It's more complex than that obviously, but that is a good gist-cliff notes version over-view.
Yep, the man don't want you unionizing, they want you to keep voting for either crips or bloods gang at the polls, they don't want you to notice the daily factory closings and the daily importing of second world labor, white or blue collar. They want you to keep with the safe little finger pointing "it's all the dems fault, no it's all the repubs fault". They love it when people stop looking at that bare minimum level. They love it when 99% of the population is more interested in professional sports, movies, music, games, mindless TV shows and etc. They want you concentrating on ANYTHING but looking real hard at what's going on now and using common sense and logic to make a rational projection of events with some sort of realistic timeline. they want you to focus on "homeland security" and "terrorists" as they remove border patrol people and abandon the southern borders to humongous invasion. they want you to think "cheap prices on gadgets" now as these so called "american" companies all move off shore in search of the last dregs of short term profits. They want you to constantly take any "spare" cash you got and pump it into the magic beans stock market, or even buy government paper, which is just another form of indebtedness that falls right back on you in the form of future higher taxes to pay this paper off. You won't see any of those TV shills recommending people pay off their mortgage early, or perhaps get a smaller and more modest place so they can do that, nope, they still want you to buy-buy-buy, get those 30 year notes on fancy foyers and gimgrack houses and shiny things in the rooms. Just keep doing it on credit, that's all they ask, and don't look any farther than that. On and on. They baited the trap years ago, most people took the bait. The bad part is, people will still argue there is no trap.
counter threat, you have your tv actor lawyer* send them a letter stating that your web page content on your site including your fair use critique of their spam is entirely copyrighted and they didn't have permission from you in writing and triplicate and signed by their momma to download and copy it and etc.
--also, you were so surprised by their missive that it caused you to slip and fall and now you have a case of the painful suffering whiplashed emotional distress
check out his link, those freedom of information act documents come from government. Read them yourself.
It's really just dismally hard to even describe with text what seeing a UFO does to you, I've tried several times and failed. It is in the classical sense "awe"some, it's just overwhelming. I distinctly remember all the hairs on my neck going up, it was that shocking and that much a sense of amazement and wonder. Imagine a split second where you experience every possible emotion, it's something like that.
It is OK for you to be skeptical, this is your right. If you ever see one, you'll change your mind. That's about it. In a way-this is funny but true-here's an analogy. It's not perfect but it's good enough. Seing a UFO then trying to describe it,is like trying to explain sex to a virgin, no amount of words are the same as the experience.
--glad to see the brits *maybe* releasing some info. will remain to be seen how hokey or how real it is. Spain and some other nations have released a little as well.
Link url to blackvault, the largest UFO site on the web, among other things contains thousands of US freedom of information act documents, and yes, there's a boatload of redacted out content, as in "nothing to see here, we just blacked this out because... uhhh... ya see.. I mean..., well because we can!" This site is BIG, well done, and thorough, I recommend it to serious researchers and enthusiasts AND skeptics.
The web master started this site I *think* when he was 16, I've been visiting off and on for years.
Here's my disclaimer. Some of ya'all might have noted my frequent reference to "government" as more or less a pack of liars. One of the two primary reasons (initially that is) I have held this position most of my life is because of "ufos". when I was a teenager some friends and I saw one very close up, very close. Nope, no drugs or booze involved to dispel any trolling. It was not swamp gas, nmoon on a ducks back, some helicopter, or any other explanation other than -no explanation. Some seriously advanced flying "something'. To describe it , it was a large glowing oval shaped whatever, it flew down the block just above the houses, stopped over a house closeby, hung out, then slowly went down the block, toward the end it started to climb then WHAM took off like mach bignumber and was gone. Tell ya whut you just do NOT forget things like this. So, I start reading about UFOs,and I notice the government more or less says they don't exist except as various lame reasons. Well, too bad, 'cuz I know this is a whopper. Score one for destroying a yong man's trust in government, already shaken by the kennedy whack, then oswalds rubout which was obvious to anyone with an iq above 50 as "eliminating some embarassing evidence".
government=liars when it comes to certain things. This is IMO of course, but in the decades since I have seen no evidence to persuade me otherwise, in fact,I'd say the evidence FOR ufo's as being something "other" is better than for "honesty in government".
Exactly what they are, no idea, demons to secret nazi craft, time travellers to interstellar visitors, angels to secret gov blackops-no idea, none. I tend to more think the correct answer is "all of the above".
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--maybe it wasn't a chemical trigger. Maybe it was electromagnetic. Maybe it was thermal or gravitic. Maybe it was optical. Or all of the above. I've noticed here that mass insect behavior is way more temp related than anything else, we've just now passed our annual fall lady bug hatch. We get a spring hatch and a fall hatch, always after a cold snap, followed by a warm snap, poof, lady bugs during those two seasons. Cicadas in the summer are similar, it appears to take a pretty precise set of temps at night and humidity to trigger them all off. Too dry or too cool, much less evidence of them-they are quite loud at night, BTW.
Usually mass quantities of insects in one spot indicate one of two things, over abundance of a favored food source, or, it's yee haw mating season, or hatching out season. Flying ants/termites are another,you see hardly any most of the year, then a few days early summer gazillions of them. Hmm, love bug hatches in florida is another example, none, then gee whizz.
It might be spiders do this all the time, but this particular area just got 'a lot'. I frequtly see huge areas of the lawns here that I maintain might not have any webbing in the early morning, but just on some days there will be almost total coverage, then it stops after a few days. The deal in the article was just the over size of the phenomena, not that similar doesn't occur various insects.
Interesting either way.
Here's something I discoverd this summer. If you are familiar with "mud dauber" type wasps, sometime when feeling brave knock one down(a nest) that is in use, open it up. They eat spiders larger than they are, they apparently semi paralyse them, take them to their nests where they are stored. I opened up several this summer, upwards of 3 dozen or more still kinda alive spiders inside them. Big ones.
--contact the big guys yourself. If these guys get an court settlement test cases in their favor, it's going to cost a lot of the big guys serious folding money to fight the case themselves. whereas-if you can convince them to help you fight your relatively small case NOW, they can potentially save BIG BUCKS later. That's the best idea I can think of right now. These guys are fishing, but they will start taking people to court, and bet a nickle that they have a tame judge's area picked out where to file in. That's just a logic train, in war, the dude who picks the battle and terrain and goes first has the upper hand right off the bat. I haven't looked at any of the patents yet though, so no idea if their claims have any merit, but potentially this is bigger than the e-commerce patent fights if what they say is true. Just think of real player and quicktime and windows media player stuff, it would appear that all of those efforts are in violation potentially. I mean, transmitting digital content on wires? Say whut? That's a very, very broad avenue for "the internet". You might have difficulty though seeing as how you have a porn site, could be none of the big guys would want to be seen publically as "in favor of" your....uhhh... artistic efforts on the net. In that case, seek contributions from like minded webmasters and hosts from this "industry" that will be similarly affected. There's thousands of them, a few bucks apiece donated might be prudent.
I imagine all these parties have employees who read slashdot, so they will see this thread. good luck.
--note: I have zero way to tell and zero insider knowledge of what intel might or might not do.
With that said, I would bet that if push came to shove, intel would fall on the side of millions of cpu chips to desktops (trusted and see-cure microsoft yada yada) instead of thousands to servers (terrible open source linux that any al queda teenager can hack open in 2 minutes yada yada). Public perception and marketing and outright lying and word twisting and propogandaizing will prevail in the short term. Not long term but the short term. The pushing and shoving being mandated "by law" with snoopervision hard coded into the chip itself, probably to "fight software and music and movie piracy and to help stop terrorism and them e-vile hackerz,please, think of the childrenz" or some such new law probably coming to a nation near you soon.
Really, just guessing though. Microsoft's alleged "punishment" was too wussy, I am guessing there's a sub tosa deal in place now between the government and microsoft, there will be a slew of trojans hidden in their software and only a matter of time before they are inside the chips. The government has stated quite clearly that their goal is TOTAL surveillance, I mean, how many more clues are needed now? Intel will play ball with this if they are forced to choose. So will AMD probably as well, and it never has to be made public, at least past the plausable deniability level.
---as has been pointed out by other posters, ozone is used by a host of industrial clean up companies. It's not "junk science". The main problems found with these various devices is along with the combined oxygen macro molecules, you get the nitrous stuff which is corrosive. As to the duration of the combined molecules, again, no idea really. they seem to last long enough to do the job though, how this occurs is not my forte. Aranizer has developed a way-your patent reference from their site- to have the ozone without the corrosive nitrous oxides. How they do it and how this actually works, I honestly can't tell you. The smell from the machines I have tried is quite pleasant,similar-kinda-to that nice smell after a thunderstorm or say like at the beach. I have used two different large household sized ozone machines (different company though) and they work as advertised, they eliminate molds and wood smoke smell, etc. This is just personal anecdotal, I can't "prove" it on the internet obviously, but I state that it occurred. that's the best I can do on a forum post. I think they are a good idea. As to the quality of their website, oh well, it's the machines that are important. They also have upgraded machines manufactured in the past by them, at no additional charge beyond shipping I believe, something very few other manufacturers of anything do.
..way back in the olden daze, you used to be able to buy 'a car'. cars where large and weird looking, had personalities of a sort, but were 'square". people wanted pizazz, they wanted "more",including more power.
Enter the geeks.
Car geeks chopped channelled and lowered cars, made them high compression and short stroke, tweaked this, tweaked that, result-hotrods.
Flash forward a coupla decades, "hotrods" become factory built, you could literally walk into the dealer and drive out with 400+ HP "hotrods".
Did detroit do this on their lonesome? Did some marketing guy thunk this up all by himself? Nope, it took millions of young car geeks simply doing it to the consternation of staid marketing, eventually-and I mean eventually-they bingoed to the phenomena. They were partly driven by-surprise-the car geeks-the kids in a lot of cases- turning into the engineers at the plants, working on the assembly line and talking cars on break, at the dirt tracks all over, this drove the industry in a direction it didn't want to go at first, they were square and wanted to stick with the gold old tried and true bloatware boats, but eventually the sheer mass and enthusiasm of cars as cool and powerful enablers of humans took hold and the main stream acceptance of "hotrods" became as much a norm as anything else.
Computers aren't any different. Young people today who are the hotrodders-the tinkerers, the geeks, will be driving this industry. We ARE at exactly that point now near as I can tell. It's not going to be anything else BUT the enthusiasts because they are the ones going into the hotrod computer industry. The masses who just play games occassionally and do email and work as drones in some office and don't even 'get it" with computers are just along for the ride, and that's it, evne the 'bosses' now who don't get it will be forced into it as all their people below them startytelling them the same thing over and over again. The establishment controls the now but aren't the ones who will drive what is accepted, because they lack the enthusiasm.
People with enthusiasm make the new software, overclock the hardware, design the custom cases, think up new ways to "do things", and as such will automagically become "the industry".Money will get there somehow, one little company at a time, one new box that is tried as an "experiment" at bigco to shut up the young sysadmin, one piece of open source adopted over closed, it'll just happen.
They get jobs, they are given tasks, the way their brains work they will always migrate to what they are the most enthusiastic about, DESPITE being ordered otherwise to remain square and "normal". They are fanatics, and will have their way, it's just human nature.
To use a very old expression that fits, it's not the dog in the fight, it's the fight in the dog.
So to answer you, yes, the enthusiasm for open source is a factor of ten or one hundred times the level of the enthusiasm of the borg or closed source. They will win then, it's just common sense and a logical conclusion. You might argue about the timing, that's about it. I am guessing we are almost exactly at the tip over point. Most industry "experts" are saying closed source and the borg OS will dominate for years and years and years. I disagree. I disagree a lot.
Remember, the same exact guys said that about the dotcom stock market boom as well. Open source has gone right through the dotcom boom and while all sorts of other things techish evaporated, it just kept on cruising, didn't it?
Look at the enthusiasm of users, not from any paid industry experts as to trends. Experts get paid to parrot already established market forces, the term "shill" is over used, but the basic idea is still correct. Look around corporations in the trenches, where is the enthusiasm at? The young folks entering the workforce now grew up with computers, they didn't learn them as adults. It's not a chore to them it's not hard drudgery. Those people are open source enthusiasts by and large, mostly all do things like file sharing and mods, they code for fun as well as money, they really push envelopes. And they are overwhelmingly adopting open source, so...there ya go.
--yes, I have suffered this before, all it takes is *one* squash plant too many and all of a sudden the local economy is thrown into mass chaos turmoil, "here, have some free squahs", "no,I insist, try some of mine". Never fails, then you have squash ice cream sqaush casserolle, squssh salad, baked fried boiled raw stewed whatever SQUASH until you are..well.. squished and squeamish of squash.
Not to mention but I will anyway the dreaded "now what?!?, I grew some watermelons now I have 500 lbs of watermelon that needs eating like right now".
--boy, I got a few. Here's my top ones, I imagine the file sharing and cd burning whatever will be thoroughly covered by some other guys here.
--OK, here's my #1 biggee-How about gutting the constitution, especially the 4th amendment, using tax payer ripped off money to turn around and spy on the tax payers, follow their every moves, create massive interconnected databases? What gives congress any "right" to do this, what gives this president any right to sign this into bogus law? What gives them any right besides force of lethal threat of arms to create massive domestic spy agencies using any and all available high technology to create some heinous big brother spy state? And ask this congress "person" if they actually read the homeland security bill in total, and perhaps the model states health bill if they voted for it.
--giving high tech pharmco/biology corporations basically a get-out-of-jail free card with regards to the looming threat of forced vaccinations with who knows what in the syringe. And I mean who knows what with their past track record of lying. Might it be because of all the high level connections with these firms and the current administration? We are supposed to believe that coincidence after coincidence is really a coincidence?
--allowing the incredibly stupid move of recombinant gene mixed species GM crops to be released into the wild, including injecting aids material inside corn, and etc. Allowing "roundup ready" plants to be released that are air pollinated and may infect others similar crops, rendering them useless. What's up with this stuff? Just go ahead and do it, who cares what it might cause down the pike? who cares how many family farmers and organic farmers are put out of business as long as a small handful of international companies gain eventual total control over peoples food. who's getting paid off with that? Where's the fda and usda besides golfing and drinking with a handful if international food and drug monopolists and profiteers? The US people are supposed to just not notice how medicine and food is in fewer and fewer hands, that for some reason this is a good thing? and just yesterday vaccine records sealed by orders of some US "court" to protect these vaccine manufacturers to be responsible for their products? hey, throw it right back at them like they are dojg now with the 'war on terrorism". What ya got to hide big government and big corporate guys, what ya hiding that's so bad the records have to be sealed? Where's congressional oversight on this one, where's the tech oversight, out to lunch, gone fishing? Who's getting paid off?
--transfer of high tech developed in the united states to heinous regimes like china. Show me any difference between red china and iraq. Besides red china being much bigger and much more dangerous that is. Why is it "different" for china? And to give high tech US industries tax breaks to do this? This is supposed to be a good idea? Despite our own goivernments intel agency analysis that red china is our #1 enemy and threat? Export jobs, export tech advances, help fund them? Talk about asleep at the switch or actually selling out for money alone, no thought for the future, just short term "profits" for some "investors" and higher ups in international corporations who happen to have their main offices inside the US.
More technology transfers, why is it again we transferred nuclear reactors to north korea? Because they promised to turn into nice guys? Isn't this rather naieve and a waste of tax payer money, does there not exist enough evidence to prove to most anyone that north korea is *never* going to be lead by any *nice guys*, that they are about as nasty a set of chronic liars and despots as you could imagine?
..don't worry, the same action is coming soon to a country near you. The US and europe will be doing similar in the not too distant future. "Hate crimes", bogus "you are a terrorist because we say so", guilty until you have no chance to prove your innocence in front of a military junta tribunal, etc, etc. It's all "on track". Red China is the globalist wet dream poster child nation socio/economic ideal. I call it technofuedalism. And like all other tyrannical regimes in the past, most will go along with it, claiming "they didn't know", or "money has no conscious" or the famous "just following orders/doing my job".
Humans don't change, they use every bit (and byte) of available technology to oppress people, to be predators, this is the nature of governments made up of at the top clinically insane megalomaniacs, similar to the international profits at any cost konzern heads. No matter how much these governments and the corporate cartel sponsors start out as a "deal" for the people, they always de-evolve into heinous dictatorships. The time line is the only variable, but the outcome never varies, that be carveth in stone. Whether the slogan is "hail caesar!" or "sieg heil!" or "let's roll!" or "power to the people!", or "allah akubar!" or "viva la revolucion!" or whatever, it always turns into a dictatorship.
One of the first clues is government controlling the media and your access to it, and pushing their propoganda media efforts at you. This is called the "big lie", just keep saying it over and over again, eventually the bulk of the people believe it, because it's easier than finding out what's really going on. The second clue is not allowing citizens to be adequately armed. The third clue is massive government sponsored demonization of citizens outside their nation and inside, a de-humanizing effort to reduce some humans to less than human status. Currently in china you might belong to the "evil cult", in the US you might be called a "racist" for wanting the borders controlled, in europe you might be called a"nazi" if you really don't approve of massive socialistic command and control efforts, on and on. It never changes. In the past it was "he's a dirty injun" or "she's a filthy jew" or "they are just ragheads" or "they are guilty of crimes against the state", the all encompassing "terrorist" label that fits most situations.
When governments go down that path, expect the "disappeareds", executions, torture, kangaroo courts, death camps eventually, it just happens, some nations at different times than others but it always happens.
actually, there are millions of people out here in "flyover country" who live in just as "real world" situation as any mega-urban dweller, but consider living in some man made high rise uhhh "targets" we think of them in the middle of millions of other people bathed in 24/7/365 mega pollution and noise to be lots stranger than a hobbit hole. Lots weirder and lots stranger. To each their own and stuff.
With that said, an alternative to the concrete pipe is to use a large diameter galavanized road gutter pipe. They can be quite large as well. These are in place all over the nation right now, useful as tornado or bomb shelters, or to use day to day as practical root cellars. Yes, some people grow most if not all of their food and need a place to store it. What a concept, almost like having a "store" out in the back yard. It's kinda nifty really.
Really, the hobbit hole is just a cooler way to do a "basement" one with a superior roof than a flammable building. Now I think living in a novel fantasy world is silly, but the concept of cave-as-shelter is quite robust in human history, as it has quite a bit of practical value. After all, our manmade buildings are just that, artifical "caves" of a sort, square, tall, whatever, it's still the same sort of concept, "stuff" around you that protects you from the outside elements. This guys gig is just fantasy art as shelter, sort of day to day performance theater I guess you might classify it as. Who knows he might find his fantasy chick to dig it with him. Ever been to a scifi con? Ain't as many grrls, but there's *enough*.
You deal with moisture/condensation problems in earth bermed or completely underground shelters by using an air heat exchanger/condenser. In a pinch, it's actually usefull to recover the moisture, as it's distilled water. They do similar I *think* on high tech space craft. Ya never know when water might come in handy and maybe the ole tap ain't working. Stuff happens. Airplanes into buildings. Maybe sometime we get nukes in cities. Maybe sometime soon, too, BTW. Or something like that. Hope not. I won't bet against it though, not the way this old whirrled is shaping up. I think michio kaku nailed it. Misuse of element 235 and it's cousins is gonna more or less slow down the old human race to a desparate crawl sometime. Well, and to that I'll add the modern day Dr. Frankensteins and their biocootie inventions. Another subject another day.
I thought the novel Dune had interesting survival aspects to it, the stillsuits were a cool idea.
They use these things to clean air and all the stuff the air touches, hospitals use them someplaces, meat markets, places with that nasty mold in the walls, etc. Also good for folks with allergies and just general "better" air. It has all the benefits of all the other ozone generators out there, without putting out the nitrous acid stuff. As far as I know they are the only company with that claim.
As an aside, I'm a serious survivalist/prepper. One of the things that this community recommends is "distributed" storage of your gear,you do it with your electronic data, just take the concept to meatworld. The simplest way is to swap with a friend, you store some of their stuff, they store some of your stuff, and now you know one of the reasons why, sorry it came the hard way. You swap a set of basic things for long term storage, food, gear,personal clothing, important papers, medkits, etc, etc, the basics you would need in just such a case as a catastrophic fire. It can get more complicated after that, such as underground cacheing, etc, but that straight mutual storage concept is a good one. It's the old "don't put all your eggs in one basket" deal.
--unless I'm mistaken, the guys who developed the itunes are the past developers of soundjam, the best, IMO, audio media player for classic mac. They folded and went to work for apple. I still use soundjam for inet radio on my old mac, much better than anything else I have used, including various quicktimes. I've tried them back to back on the same MP3 stream, no comparison.
Don't have a newer mac so don't run osx and don't have an ipod so can't comment on any of those, but if it really IS the soundjam guys I imagine it's a superior product going by their past success.
--I've wondered why passwords have to be inputed as text. Like, is there a way to use an audio/video clip instead? Perhaps keep it stored on removable media, you input it when needed by a direct cable connection, or inserting a USB device or a pcmcia card, etc. Is this being done?
--that's one of the better "can't see the forest for the trees" bingo epiphanies I have read here on slashdot. Outstanding., Ya, it might slow down adoption for these other companies, but so what? Eventually they'll want to move on,more hardware and new software, by then they'll think "hey, might as well use the open stuff, makes mucho sense and cents to do so".
--dang that sad, really. sorry about the girl, too bad for the nutcase.
Goes along with the catch 22 deal. YEP, there's legit uses for data mining, I would never dispute that,as your story shows, our society now has to figure out the "how far" part. We can only go as far as the government itself is trustworthy, deal is, there's no single one "government", it's made up of saints and sinners and blends of each. Sometimes they are good, doing their jobs as advertised, other times, not doing jobs or actually being malicious. Stuff happens. In the US our historical records and major law, the constitution, pretty clearly state we agree to trade off some measure of security for being "free-er" than any other peoples. It's a hefty price but worth it, really worth it in the long run, IMO. That's the plan anyway. The other models of government tried out with more and more "control" have always de-evolved into...well, "not nice" places to live. As arnie would say it's a "bahhhd i-de-uh"
Stores have the right to ask for anything they want to, as the customer has the right to reply in full, partially or not at all and go elsewheres. Where it gets sticky is when ALL of it gets mandated "by law", which I'm afraid might be *soon*. That's prognostication on my part and as such is quite liable to be totally wrong or totally right, most likely though normal law of averages would indicate we'll be seeing a lot more "mandated" then what we are seeing now.
My guess on ratshack's policy is that the data was so flawed that it was worthless to them, plus mailings costs, plus whizzed off customers.
Can't tell ya how many cheap free batteries i got and still got a fre of those crummy "free" flashlights they used to give out, but, I went to their stores and still do for the odd part now and then. it's handy, they got specialised stuff, although it has changed a lot over the years.
My second prognostication is it also won't matter much not too far in the future with facial/body language reading recognition tech, no need to ask you who you are, walk into the store, images captured, they'll look then if they want to. Cash sales won't matter then. They got cams going in on the streets, onstar, tracking cell phones, CC records, most medium and large stores already have cams, and etc, etc. It's not that we have lists or not,that's a gimmee, just how much bigger they will get, who will have them, what they will do with them, and how much you'll even know about them personally.
---I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. No place did I address any sort of not caring about the blast victims, that's nuts. As to the framing efforts, it's data, deal with it, it happened, they went way out of their way-and wasted time-by focusing on jewell and by leaking the info to the press, seriously messing with him. they only stopped when they realised it was so blatantly stoopid even a cub reporter could see it.
Oh and the fibbers? Nothing is ever their fault, they don't even bother to even apologise about anything when they screw up. Sometimes like with randy weaver* and his murdered wife, they are forced to fork over cash money when caught screwing up, but at no time do they act "honorably" and admit a mistake. A man will admit when he's wrong, slimeball scumbags hide behind anonymity and the new buzzword catch phrase "national security" when they mess up, like someone(s) sure as heck messed up on 9-11, but so far, no one even so much as fired, a round of promotions all around, new homeland security mega agency, more police powers. Something's screwy there, in an honest government, some heads should rolled and there should have been some resignations, and just don't happen to recall any so far. In the real world, civvie world, where laws actually apply, where you might actually be held accountable for your actions or lack of action, you can't get even close to 1% of the level of a 9-11 screwup and not get fired at a minimum. In government,where laws mostly don't apply and ethics are an option and mutual CYA is the religion, you get promoted, get a bonus, or get re elected or nominated to a higher position.
99.999% of the population can see that, I have no idea why the remainder fail at making that simple observation, but hey, slashdot sure is a big forum.
*weavers crime was not having a 5$ AOW license and for being able to read, the judge/court sent him an incorrect court date to appear. That don't matter though, "just following orders" is "close enough" to ethical behavior in government.
--I tell ya whut, was following this on the teevee same as anyone was, the olympic blast story. After it was obvious what they were doing to jewell then they finally admitted it wasn't him, and then I get the vist I go WTF???? I honestly had a few seconds there I am thinking they are gonna frame me, it was spooky. It's spooky because they CAN if they want to.
Oh ya, homeland insecurity just got signed into law, here come the mega "lists", well beyond the ratshack list. No closing the borders, wide open all over, millions of illegals waltzing in, gonna get given bogus identity cards issued by their consulates, no telling who's getting in and who's here already, but we "need" this law, ya right.
Government speaketh with uber forked tongue on this one.
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--remember the drought this year and last year, and how huge humongous areas of the US west burnt down? I have no idea how many millions and millions of trees lost to fire. Too bad they couldn't have been sanely and selectably logged, turned into lumber for homes and furniture. Instead we got a zillion tons of particulate soot, CO2 and etc, plus, the lost homes and businesses-humans hopes and dreams-lost work and lastly the firefighters who lost their lives. Remember the firefighters-all young people, pretty new to firefighting, who burnt alive because the government wouldn't allow water to be taken from a stream because of some minnows, until it was too late?
Anyway, there's one source of housing going begging, all so that primarily well meaning and well intenioned but sorta naieve city people can "feel good" about the environment. "Feel good"-itis causes as much famine and lack of affordable housing as anything else. Both extremes are blatantly flawed here, massive rape styled clear cutting is wrong-and so is this opposite of severely restricting normal human activities in a rural setting. Farming, ranching, logging, mining-all are necessary human activites. They provide goods-food, building materials, the raw materials from which everything is made. You can't have it both ways, you can't have a world with "enough" for all unless it's "allowed" to do those things necessary to bring it about.
--that's the zinger, they have to prove any published criticsms of the government are false and slanderous and malicious. And "opinion" doesn't enter in to it,as any "opinion" is not the same as a declarative statement of fact.
--I live in a rual area. I'd guesstimate that within a one mile radius of where I live the medium age is at least 50 (or close to that), ie, not a whole lotta kids around here,mostly neo geezers or geezers. Almost every household around here has an online computer now. Most of these folks are retired or close to it, and buy stuff online. Reason I know this is because I am the local nerd and get called on by the neighbors to help fix or explain this or that. They usually have much older machines-well I do too, but still, online is online, it doesn't require the very latest bleeding edge that younger folks get, primarily for gaming purposes it appears. Hmm, I'm thinking of this one millionaire contractor I do occassional work for, he's only running an old 300 mghz (or so) machine that his son gave him. He could go buy a brand new whatever, and has no need so he doesn't. Just like his pickup he drives around, he could afford a brand new one and just isn't buying one, he has no need at this point. Yet he owns hundreds of acres has a huge house, plays with his horses, goes on trips and vacations, etc. In other words generalizations can be deceiving.
ya, I try to do this anyway, the "help fix this or that" part..... too funny really.....
As to this company's predictions, I bet they can get close enough using available data mining techniques. We don't really have any indication how extensive their collation efforts are, but given what we know about virtually every industry selling/sharing it's data, combined with web surfing mappage, they probably can get a reasonable approximation, and every day they add to it it gets 'better". Even most states sell demographic info, credit histories, zipcodes are tied to al of this as in past dead trees bulk mailings, what you buy all the way from grocery store shopping cards to banking records are all avaialable now. Combine this with surfing habits, well, that's a lot of decent data to work from..
--thanks for the reply, I will clarify my position a little. I think the "left versus right" paradigm is the most dangerous one to get into. That's the point it appears most people get stuck at, hence, we go around and around every election with people who are victims pointing fingers at each other, not realising they are puppets getting their strings pulled. I'm more interested in the identity of ther puppet masters, the string pullers, and to expose them for what they are doing and who they are. This two class society model they appear to like is that "technofuedalism" model, most notably illustrated in current mainland china. That country is also the nation that is experiencing the most interest and largest development. If these various companies didn't like what they saw there, they wouldn't go there, and my position is it goes even beyond crass bottom line short term profits. I mean, really, pick some firtune 500 company hauling ass into china, we are supposed to believe they haven't noticed it's a pure heinous dictatorsip with death campsand torture and no political dissent and bad news etc/ I'm not that naieve and I don't think they are, reality is-they don't care, they LIKE that scene. They want that same sort of scene inside the US. You can't do that weith an empowered and robust middle class, you can only accomplish that when the economic slevels are even further apart than they currently are. I am of the opinion that they "dig" on the idea of a master/serf society. Now this is a generalization, I admit it, but my opinion is, once these various international very large level owners/bosses get a 'taste" of what it means to be neo-royalty in these various second world nations, they just want it constantly like an addict wants a fix. It goes beyond just mere cash. It's the power, the ability to order things done well beyond what a "normal" western civilized nation allows. The feudal system, what in times past the "lords" enjoyed over their populations, to have actual power and control over human beings. Total power and total control. It's just "today" however, not the past "ye olden dayes", and it's easier for them to skip that "royal" sounding label nonsense and instead use acronyms and legalese and the power to manipulate currencies and employment and living-values levels over large amounts of various populations, ie, to not only be above the law but to become "the law".
I agree that companies should reward their employees, and that employees should work hard to make the company successful. the deal is, it's pretty hard to do that if you have been working hard and still lose your job. It's amatter of degree, it's happening now that huge numbers of people no matter how skilled or in what industry are losing their jobs. It's a de-evolution of the creation of the middle classes, traditionally the true background of successfuleconomies. In history we can see the most successful nations are those with the largest middle classes. On-purpose destruction of the middle class must therefore be planned, and it appears the plan is to replace the basic three class model that is working back to the older two class model. We are being told by our economic and political "leaders" that this globalism model is the way to go and will be better for everyone. Well, where's the beef? I distinctly remember when one even modest blue collar income was more than ample to support a family with home ownership, many children, a car, etc, now, this is not possible, it just isn't happening. It takes two mid level and above incomes-blue collar skilled or higher level white collar skilled- to accomplish more or less the same living strata. hmm, what ain't computing here? People are confusing credit with produced wealth and ownership. those are completely different *things* but are being touted as *the same* and still most people believe this.
I'm not an IT guy, I'm a blue collar guy who likes and uses technology. Been watching the destruction of the blue collar economy for years and writing on it. Yes, mostly the white collars were derisive and not caring in the past, quite rude and naieve, IMO, because they still "had their's" so it didn't matter to them, and now that it's affecting some of them they are waking up. This is good and bad, good that maybe they can look and see what the larger picture is, bad is that it still is happening, and it doesn't, hasn't, and won't matter if 'dems' or 'repubs' are in any various office or control. Those two parties are two sides to the same rotten coin. You get the same results with minor cosmetic differences. I've just been watching politics too long to not notice this, it's so obvious I take it as a default.
There are some pretty vital clues. The extremely destructive and unchecked illegal immigrant invasion. This is just so blatantly destructive, it's designed to slap back any gains made by blue collars over the past several decades. It also goes to help defuse the resistance to oligarchy in mexico and other areas, they are using the US as a dumping ground for their revolutionary potential, to protect the castillian racist "masters" down there. In other words, our fatcats are helping mexico's fatcats, in order to keep mexico technofeudal, and to increase the potential for complete technofeudalism inside the US. On a slightly higher scale, exporting skilled blue collar jobs by outright factory relocation, again, short term profits. US companies get tax breaks to do this! Tax breaks! Economics 101 says without customers you don't sell anything, and removing jobs en masse like what has been happening is removing customers. Concurrently they still issue "credit" to these same people, so you have to ask the obvious "why"? The only high level answer I can see is because eventually these people become economically destroyed, turn into second world styled citizens,completely indebted their entire lives. This is not good, unless you happen to be the credit issuer, then it's great, you now "own" people. Technofuedalism=modern slavery, codified into law by stealth means. The old "company store" model carried to nation-state size, they 0\/\/ |\| j00. Hmm, getting owned is not really a good thing. Well, that's usually what most folks think.
Yes, I'm rambling still not enough coffee intake, but I touched on a few subjects there, hope it's claified a little. I'm looking to eliminate the "awareness" boundaries between the traditional mid-level white collar and blue collar and to get both those aspects of society to admit and see that they are being used and abused and the abusers are the same guys and that it's part of a rather nasty agenda, that agenda the global two class society. This is called loosely the "NWO" and is a "bad idea" IMO.
...well, right off the bat in your list, the truck drivers? If you had been reading the non-tech news you *might* have noticed that now mexican 5$ a DAY truck drivers are now legal to drive all over the united states. This has just happened.
Don't worry, your white collar tech job is going as well, get used to the idea. Only the timeline might be different for different people and jobs, but basically, if you are any sort of middle class in the US, you are now surplus population to the globalists. You are not only replaceable, you WILL be replaced.
It is NOT going to be nice, in fact, it's going to be pretty hellish once it really starts hitting hard. Give it some time.
Want an example of what these globalists can do once they set their minds to it, to the middle class of a nation? Look at argentina two years ago, one year ago, and now.
--what you said is true, but it's not an either/or situation. A long time ago I was in the UAW, and for sure the rank and file completely dismissed the threat of japanese inroads, it was laughable to them (not to me I saw it coming) and managment back then was completely out to lunch coke addled morons. BUT, another thing happened, japan not only sold cheaper cars initially, they "dumped" them, ie, sold them BELOW COST to themselves in order to garner longer term brand loyalty and market share. Exactly what they are currently doing with the hybrid cars as well. They also put a HUGE number of restrictions on US imports into japan, and we-our "leaders" just ate it.
To me it should be a quid pro quo, you tariff us, we tariff you right back. You won't allow US people to own property there (japan, mexico, china) they shouldn't be allowed to purchase and own anything here.
Our leaders are sell-outs, and they play the left versus right, repub versus dem,white collar versus blue collar angles against us, keep everyone faked out as they are creating a global two class technofuedal society. The US middle class is the biggest hindrance to those efforts, that's why you see them gleefully destroying first the blue collar manufacturing and agricultural jobs (white collars never cared for those people while this was happening), now they will be destroying the white collar jobs (and of a suddent the white collars are going HEY! what's going on?). They won't "run out" of technology, nor will these uber international pirate bosses "go broke" or lack for anything, they just prefer the master/serf style society, and are willing to trade off the loss of customers to a great degree. The bonus money to them is they get to keep constantly keep transferring ownership of all the land and buildings upstream into fewer hands. A headline last night, mortgage defaults at 30 year high. This isn't an accident, it's part of "the plan". Get people to establish credit well beyond any rational level, WELL beyond that, get them shilled into the phony manipuylated stock market, then destroy their jobs and income, poof, the uber bosses get to legally own everything. In the meantime they set people -the white collar and blue collar victims-squabbling with each other using propoganda and media manipulation with the "political" system with *one* political party with two names. It's a great scam for them and is working right on schedule. One of the easier ways to see the scam is to look at "official" unemployment figures, which are approximately 1/2 of what the real numbers are. How they do that? simple, they stop counting people who have exhausted unemployment insurance, they don't count people extremely under-employed in very low paying part time jobs, and they also really messed with consumer cost of living indices by taking out food and energy costs, which they used to include.
The economy is much worse than they admit to, despite wallmarts impressive figures. I'd like to see a breakdown of how much walmart's sales are cash versus credit card the other day.
Two other economic indicators, look at large banks derivatives exposure, then look at fortune 500 pension funding, and government pension funding and projected cost of social security and medicare/medicaid.
It's pretty dismal right now.
It's more complex than that obviously, but that is a good gist-cliff notes version over-view.
Yep, the man don't want you unionizing, they want you to keep voting for either crips or bloods gang at the polls, they don't want you to notice the daily factory closings and the daily importing of second world labor, white or blue collar. They want you to keep with the safe little finger pointing "it's all the dems fault, no it's all the repubs fault". They love it when people stop looking at that bare minimum level. They love it when 99% of the population is more interested in professional sports, movies, music, games, mindless TV shows and etc. They want you concentrating on ANYTHING but looking real hard at what's going on now and using common sense and logic to make a rational projection of events with some sort of realistic timeline. they want you to focus on "homeland security" and "terrorists" as they remove border patrol people and abandon the southern borders to humongous invasion. they want you to think "cheap prices on gadgets" now as these so called "american" companies all move off shore in search of the last dregs of short term profits. They want you to constantly take any "spare" cash you got and pump it into the magic beans stock market, or even buy government paper, which is just another form of indebtedness that falls right back on you in the form of future higher taxes to pay this paper off. You won't see any of those TV shills recommending people pay off their mortgage early, or perhaps get a smaller and more modest place so they can do that, nope, they still want you to buy-buy-buy, get those 30 year notes on fancy foyers and gimgrack houses and shiny things in the rooms. Just keep doing it on credit, that's all they ask, and don't look any farther than that. On and on. They baited the trap years ago, most people took the bait. The bad part is, people will still argue there is no trap.
Oh well.
counter threat, you have your tv actor lawyer* send them a letter stating that your web page content on your site including your fair use critique of their spam is entirely copyrighted and they didn't have permission from you in writing and triplicate and signed by their momma to download and copy it and etc.
--also, you were so surprised by their missive that it caused you to slip and fall and now you have a case of the painful suffering whiplashed emotional distress
whut the heck it's only an email....
*Ian Nathaniel Louer is his name.....
check out his link, those freedom of information act documents come from government. Read them yourself.
It's really just dismally hard to even describe with text what seeing a UFO does to you, I've tried several times and failed. It is in the classical sense "awe"some, it's just overwhelming. I distinctly remember all the hairs on my neck going up, it was that shocking and that much a sense of amazement and wonder. Imagine a split second where you experience every possible emotion, it's something like that.
It is OK for you to be skeptical, this is your right. If you ever see one, you'll change your mind. That's about it. In a way-this is funny but true-here's an analogy. It's not perfect but it's good enough. Seing a UFO then trying to describe it,is like trying to explain sex to a virgin, no amount of words are the same as the experience.
Link url to blackvault, the largest UFO site on the web, among other things contains thousands of US freedom of information act documents, and yes, there's a boatload of redacted out content, as in "nothing to see here, we just blacked this out because... uhhh... ya see.. I mean..., well because we can!" This site is BIG, well done, and thorough, I recommend it to serious researchers and enthusiasts AND skeptics.
http://www.bvalphaserver.com/
the Black Vault
The web master started this site I *think* when he was 16, I've been visiting off and on for years.
Here's my disclaimer. Some of ya'all might have noted my frequent reference to "government" as more or less a pack of liars. One of the two primary reasons (initially that is) I have held this position most of my life is because of "ufos". when I was a teenager some friends and I saw one very close up, very close. Nope, no drugs or booze involved to dispel any trolling. It was not swamp gas, nmoon on a ducks back, some helicopter, or any other explanation other than -no explanation. Some seriously advanced flying "something'. To describe it , it was a large glowing oval shaped whatever, it flew down the block just above the houses, stopped over a house closeby, hung out, then slowly went down the block, toward the end it started to climb then WHAM took off like mach bignumber and was gone. Tell ya whut you just do NOT forget things like this. So, I start reading about UFOs,and I notice the government more or less says they don't exist except as various lame reasons. Well, too bad, 'cuz I know this is a whopper. Score one for destroying a yong man's trust in government, already shaken by the kennedy whack, then oswalds rubout which was obvious to anyone with an iq above 50 as "eliminating some embarassing evidence".
government=liars when it comes to certain things. This is IMO of course, but in the decades since I have seen no evidence to persuade me otherwise, in fact,I'd say the evidence FOR ufo's as being something "other" is better than for "honesty in government".
Exactly what they are, no idea, demons to secret nazi craft, time travellers to interstellar visitors, angels to secret gov blackops-no idea, none. I tend to more think the correct answer is "all of the above".
--maybe it wasn't a chemical trigger. Maybe it was electromagnetic. Maybe it was thermal or gravitic. Maybe it was optical. Or all of the above.
I've noticed here that mass insect behavior is way more temp related than anything else, we've just now passed our annual fall lady bug hatch. We get a spring hatch and a fall hatch, always after a cold snap, followed by a warm snap, poof, lady bugs during those two seasons. Cicadas in the summer are similar, it appears to take a pretty precise set of temps at night and humidity to trigger them all off. Too dry or too cool, much less evidence of them-they are quite loud at night, BTW.
Usually mass quantities of insects in one spot indicate one of two things, over abundance of a favored food source, or, it's yee haw mating season, or hatching out season. Flying ants/termites are another,you see hardly any most of the year, then a few days early summer gazillions of them. Hmm, love bug hatches in florida is another example, none, then gee whizz.
It might be spiders do this all the time, but this particular area just got 'a lot'. I frequtly see huge areas of the lawns here that I maintain might not have any webbing in the early morning, but just on some days there will be almost total coverage, then it stops after a few days. The deal in the article was just the over size of the phenomena, not that similar doesn't occur various insects.
Interesting either way.
Here's something I discoverd this summer. If you are familiar with "mud dauber" type wasps, sometime when feeling brave knock one down(a nest) that is in use, open it up. They eat spiders larger than they are, they apparently semi paralyse them, take them to their nests where they are stored. I opened up several this summer, upwards of 3 dozen or more still kinda alive spiders inside them. Big ones.
learn new stuff every day, cool.
--contact the big guys yourself. If these guys get an court settlement test cases in their favor, it's going to cost a lot of the big guys serious folding money to fight the case themselves. whereas-if you can convince them to help you fight your relatively small case NOW, they can potentially save BIG BUCKS later. That's the best idea I can think of right now. These guys are fishing, but they will start taking people to court, and bet a nickle that they have a tame judge's area picked out where to file in. That's just a logic train, in war, the dude who picks the battle and terrain and goes first has the upper hand right off the bat. I haven't looked at any of the patents yet though, so no idea if their claims have any merit, but potentially this is bigger than the e-commerce patent fights if what they say is true. Just think of real player and quicktime and windows media player stuff, it would appear that all of those efforts are in violation potentially. I mean, transmitting digital content on wires? Say whut? That's a very, very broad avenue for "the internet". You might have difficulty though seeing as how you have a porn site, could be none of the big guys would want to be seen publically as "in favor of" your ....uhhh... artistic efforts on the net. In that case, seek contributions from like minded webmasters and hosts from this "industry" that will be similarly affected. There's thousands of them, a few bucks apiece donated might be prudent.
I imagine all these parties have employees who read slashdot, so they will see this thread. good luck.
--note: I have zero way to tell and zero insider knowledge of what intel might or might not do.
,please, think of the childrenz" or some such new law probably coming to a nation near you soon.
With that said, I would bet that if push came to shove, intel would fall on the side of millions of cpu chips to desktops (trusted and see-cure microsoft yada yada) instead of thousands to servers (terrible open source linux that any al queda teenager can hack open in 2 minutes yada yada). Public perception and marketing and outright lying and word twisting and propogandaizing will prevail in the short term. Not long term but the short term. The pushing and shoving being mandated "by law" with snoopervision hard coded into the chip itself, probably to "fight software and music and movie piracy and to help stop terrorism and them e-vile hackerz
Really, just guessing though. Microsoft's alleged "punishment" was too wussy, I am guessing there's a sub tosa deal in place now between the government and microsoft, there will be a slew of trojans hidden in their software and only a matter of time before they are inside the chips. The government has stated quite clearly that their goal is TOTAL surveillance, I mean, how many more clues are needed now? Intel will play ball with this if they are forced to choose. So will AMD probably as well, and it never has to be made public, at least past the plausable deniability level.
---as has been pointed out by other posters, ozone is used by a host of industrial clean up companies. It's not "junk science". The main problems found with these various devices is along with the combined oxygen macro molecules, you get the nitrous stuff which is corrosive. As to the duration of the combined molecules, again, no idea really. they seem to last long enough to do the job though, how this occurs is not my forte. Aranizer has developed a way-your patent reference from their site- to have the ozone without the corrosive nitrous oxides. How they do it and how this actually works, I honestly can't tell you. The smell from the machines I have tried is quite pleasant,similar-kinda-to that nice smell after a thunderstorm or say like at the beach. I have used two different large household sized ozone machines (different company though) and they work as advertised, they eliminate molds and wood smoke smell, etc. This is just personal anecdotal, I can't "prove" it on the internet obviously, but I state that it occurred. that's the best I can do on a forum post. I think they are a good idea. As to the quality of their website, oh well, it's the machines that are important. They also have upgraded machines manufactured in the past by them, at no additional charge beyond shipping I believe, something very few other manufacturers of anything do.
..way back in the olden daze, you used to be able to buy 'a car'. cars where large and weird looking, had personalities of a sort, but were 'square". people wanted pizazz, they wanted "more",including more power.
Enter the geeks.
Car geeks chopped channelled and lowered cars, made them high compression and short stroke, tweaked this, tweaked that, result-hotrods.
Flash forward a coupla decades, "hotrods" become factory built, you could literally walk into the dealer and drive out with 400+ HP "hotrods".
Did detroit do this on their lonesome? Did some marketing guy thunk this up all by himself? Nope, it took millions of young car geeks simply doing it to the consternation of staid marketing, eventually-and I mean eventually-they bingoed to the phenomena. They were partly driven by-surprise-the car geeks-the kids in a lot of cases- turning into the engineers at the plants, working on the assembly line and talking cars on break, at the dirt tracks all over, this drove the industry in a direction it didn't want to go at first, they were square and wanted to stick with the gold old tried and true bloatware boats, but eventually the sheer mass and enthusiasm of cars as cool and powerful enablers of humans took hold and the main stream acceptance of "hotrods" became as much a norm as anything else.
Computers aren't any different. Young people today who are the hotrodders-the tinkerers, the geeks, will be driving this industry. We ARE at exactly that point now near as I can tell. It's not going to be anything else BUT the enthusiasts because they are the ones going into the hotrod computer industry. The masses who just play games occassionally and do email and work as drones in some office and don't even 'get it" with computers are just along for the ride, and that's it, evne the 'bosses' now who don't get it will be forced into it as all their people below them startytelling them the same thing over and over again. The establishment controls the now but aren't the ones who will drive what is accepted, because they lack the enthusiasm.
People with enthusiasm make the new software, overclock the hardware, design the custom cases, think up new ways to "do things", and as such will automagically become "the industry".Money will get there somehow, one little company at a time, one new box that is tried as an "experiment" at bigco to shut up the young sysadmin, one piece of open source adopted over closed, it'll just happen.
They get jobs, they are given tasks, the way their brains work they will always migrate to what they are the most enthusiastic about, DESPITE being ordered otherwise to remain square and "normal". They are fanatics, and will have their way, it's just human nature.
To use a very old expression that fits, it's not the dog in the fight, it's the fight in the dog.
So to answer you, yes, the enthusiasm for open source is a factor of ten or one hundred times the level of the enthusiasm of the borg or closed source. They will win then, it's just common sense and a logical conclusion. You might argue about the timing, that's about it. I am guessing we are almost exactly at the tip over point. Most industry "experts" are saying closed source and the borg OS will dominate for years and years and years. I disagree. I disagree a lot.
Remember, the same exact guys said that about the dotcom stock market boom as well. Open source has gone right through the dotcom boom and while all sorts of other things techish evaporated, it just kept on cruising, didn't it?
Look at the enthusiasm of users, not from any paid industry experts as to trends. Experts get paid to parrot already established market forces, the term "shill" is over used, but the basic idea is still correct. Look around corporations in the trenches, where is the enthusiasm at? The young folks entering the workforce now grew up with computers, they didn't learn them as adults. It's not a chore to them it's not hard drudgery. Those people are open source enthusiasts by and large, mostly all do things like file sharing and mods, they code for fun as well as money, they really push envelopes. And they are overwhelmingly adopting open source, so...there ya go.
--yes, I have suffered this before, all it takes is *one* squash plant too many and all of a sudden the local economy is thrown into mass chaos turmoil, "here, have some free squahs", "no,I insist, try some of mine". Never fails, then you have squash ice cream sqaush casserolle, squssh salad, baked fried boiled raw stewed whatever SQUASH until you are ..well.. squished and squeamish of squash.
Not to mention but I will anyway the dreaded "now what?!?, I grew some watermelons now I have 500 lbs of watermelon that needs eating like right now".
yep, been dere, done did dat.
--boy, I got a few. Here's my top ones, I imagine the file sharing and cd burning whatever will be thoroughly covered by some other guys here.
--OK, here's my #1 biggee-How about gutting the constitution, especially the 4th amendment, using tax payer ripped off money to turn around and spy on the tax payers, follow their every moves, create massive interconnected databases? What gives congress any "right" to do this, what gives this president any right to sign this into bogus law? What gives them any right besides force of lethal threat of arms to create massive domestic spy agencies using any and all available high technology to create some heinous big brother spy state? And ask this congress "person" if they actually read the homeland security bill in total, and perhaps the model states health bill if they voted for it.
--giving high tech pharmco/biology corporations basically a get-out-of-jail free card with regards to the looming threat of forced vaccinations with who knows what in the syringe. And I mean who knows what with their past track record of lying. Might it be because of all the high level connections with these firms and the current administration? We are supposed to believe that coincidence after coincidence is really a coincidence?
--allowing the incredibly stupid move of recombinant gene mixed species GM crops to be released into the wild, including injecting aids material inside corn, and etc. Allowing "roundup ready" plants to be released that are air pollinated and may infect others similar crops, rendering them useless. What's up with this stuff? Just go ahead and do it, who cares what it might cause down the pike? who cares how many family farmers and organic farmers are put out of business as long as a small handful of international companies gain eventual total control over peoples food. who's getting paid off with that? Where's the fda and usda besides golfing and drinking with a handful if international food and drug monopolists and profiteers? The US people are supposed to just not notice how medicine and food is in fewer and fewer hands, that for some reason this is a good thing? and just yesterday vaccine records sealed by orders of some US "court" to protect these vaccine manufacturers to be responsible for their products? hey, throw it right back at them like they are dojg now with the 'war on terrorism". What ya got to hide big government and big corporate guys, what ya hiding that's so bad the records have to be sealed? Where's congressional oversight on this one, where's the tech oversight, out to lunch, gone fishing? Who's getting paid off?
--transfer of high tech developed in the united states to heinous regimes like china. Show me any difference between red china and iraq. Besides red china being much bigger and much more dangerous that is. Why is it "different" for china? And to give high tech US industries tax breaks to do this? This is supposed to be a good idea? Despite our own goivernments intel agency analysis that red china is our #1 enemy and threat? Export jobs, export tech advances, help fund them? Talk about asleep at the switch or actually selling out for money alone, no thought for the future, just short term "profits" for some "investors" and higher ups in international corporations who happen to have their main offices inside the US.
More technology transfers, why is it again we transferred nuclear reactors to north korea? Because they promised to turn into nice guys? Isn't this rather naieve and a waste of tax payer money, does there not exist enough evidence to prove to most anyone that north korea is *never* going to be lead by any *nice guys*, that they are about as nasty a set of chronic liars and despots as you could imagine?
There's more but that's enough for now
..don't worry, the same action is coming soon to a country near you. The US and europe will be doing similar in the not too distant future. "Hate crimes", bogus "you are a terrorist because we say so", guilty until you have no chance to prove your innocence in front of a military junta tribunal, etc, etc. It's all "on track". Red China is the globalist wet dream poster child nation socio/economic ideal. I call it technofuedalism. And like all other tyrannical regimes in the past, most will go along with it, claiming "they didn't know", or "money has no conscious" or the famous "just following orders/doing my job".
Humans don't change, they use every bit (and byte) of available technology to oppress people, to be predators, this is the nature of governments made up of at the top clinically insane megalomaniacs, similar to the international profits at any cost konzern heads. No matter how much these governments and the corporate cartel sponsors start out as a "deal" for the people, they always de-evolve into heinous dictatorships. The time line is the only variable, but the outcome never varies, that be carveth in stone. Whether the slogan is "hail caesar!" or "sieg heil!" or "let's roll!" or "power to the people!", or "allah akubar!" or "viva la revolucion!" or whatever, it always turns into a dictatorship.
One of the first clues is government controlling the media and your access to it, and pushing their propoganda media efforts at you. This is called the "big lie", just keep saying it over and over again, eventually the bulk of the people believe it, because it's easier than finding out what's really going on. The second clue is not allowing citizens to be adequately armed. The third clue is massive government sponsored demonization of citizens outside their nation and inside, a de-humanizing effort to reduce some humans to less than human status. Currently in china you might belong to the "evil cult", in the US you might be called a "racist" for wanting the borders controlled, in europe you might be called a"nazi" if you really don't approve of massive socialistic command and control efforts, on and on. It never changes. In the past it was "he's a dirty injun" or "she's a filthy jew" or "they are just ragheads" or "they are guilty of crimes against the state", the all encompassing "terrorist" label that fits most situations.
When governments go down that path, expect the "disappeareds", executions, torture, kangaroo courts, death camps eventually, it just happens, some nations at different times than others but it always happens.
actually, there are millions of people out here in "flyover country" who live in just as "real world" situation as any mega-urban dweller, but consider living in some man made high rise uhhh "targets" we think of them in the middle of millions of other people bathed in 24/7/365 mega pollution and noise to be lots stranger than a hobbit hole. Lots weirder and lots stranger. To each their own and stuff.
With that said, an alternative to the concrete pipe is to use a large diameter galavanized road gutter pipe. They can be quite large as well. These are in place all over the nation right now, useful as tornado or bomb shelters, or to use day to day as practical root cellars. Yes, some people grow most if not all of their food and need a place to store it. What a concept, almost like having a "store" out in the back yard. It's kinda nifty really.
Really, the hobbit hole is just a cooler way to do a "basement" one with a superior roof than a flammable building. Now I think living in a novel fantasy world is silly, but the concept of cave-as-shelter is quite robust in human history, as it has quite a bit of practical value. After all, our manmade buildings are just that, artifical "caves" of a sort, square, tall, whatever, it's still the same sort of concept, "stuff" around you that protects you from the outside elements. This guys gig is just fantasy art as shelter, sort of day to day performance theater I guess you might classify it as. Who knows he might find his fantasy chick to dig it with him. Ever been to a scifi con? Ain't as many grrls, but there's *enough*.
You deal with moisture/condensation problems in earth bermed or completely underground shelters by using an air heat exchanger/condenser. In a pinch, it's actually usefull to recover the moisture, as it's distilled water. They do similar I *think* on high tech space craft. Ya never know when water might come in handy and maybe the ole tap ain't working. Stuff happens. Airplanes into buildings. Maybe sometime we get nukes in cities. Maybe sometime soon, too, BTW. Or something like that. Hope not. I won't bet against it though, not the way this old whirrled is shaping up. I think michio kaku nailed it. Misuse of element 235 and it's cousins is gonna more or less slow down the old human race to a desparate crawl sometime. Well, and to that I'll add the modern day Dr. Frankensteins and their biocootie inventions. Another subject another day.
I thought the novel Dune had interesting survival aspects to it, the stillsuits were a cool idea.
--you want one of these things, an aranizer.
They use these things to clean air and all the stuff the air touches, hospitals use them someplaces, meat markets, places with that nasty mold in the walls, etc. Also good for folks with allergies and just general "better" air. It has all the benefits of all the other ozone generators out there, without putting out the nitrous acid stuff. As far as I know they are the only company with that claim.
As an aside, I'm a serious survivalist/prepper. One of the things that this community recommends is "distributed" storage of your gear,you do it with your electronic data, just take the concept to meatworld. The simplest way is to swap with a friend, you store some of their stuff, they store some of your stuff, and now you know one of the reasons why, sorry it came the hard way. You swap a set of basic things for long term storage, food, gear,personal clothing, important papers, medkits, etc, etc, the basics you would need in just such a case as a catastrophic fire. It can get more complicated after that, such as underground cacheing, etc, but that straight mutual storage concept is a good one. It's the old "don't put all your eggs in one basket" deal.
Good luck on the rebuild!
--unless I'm mistaken, the guys who developed the itunes are the past developers of soundjam, the best, IMO, audio media player for classic mac. They folded and went to work for apple. I still use soundjam for inet radio on my old mac, much better than anything else I have used, including various quicktimes. I've tried them back to back on the same MP3 stream, no comparison.
Don't have a newer mac so don't run osx and don't have an ipod so can't comment on any of those, but if it really IS the soundjam guys I imagine it's a superior product going by their past success.
--I've wondered why passwords have to be inputed as text. Like, is there a way to use an audio/video clip instead? Perhaps keep it stored on removable media, you input it when needed by a direct cable connection, or inserting a USB device or a pcmcia card, etc. Is this being done?
--that's one of the better "can't see the forest for the trees" bingo epiphanies I have read here on slashdot. Outstanding., Ya, it might slow down adoption for these other companies, but so what? Eventually they'll want to move on,more hardware and new software, by then they'll think "hey, might as well use the open stuff, makes mucho sense and cents to do so".
--dang that sad, really. sorry about the girl, too bad for the nutcase.
Goes along with the catch 22 deal. YEP, there's legit uses for data mining, I would never dispute that,as your story shows, our society now has to figure out the "how far" part. We can only go as far as the government itself is trustworthy, deal is, there's no single one "government", it's made up of saints and sinners and blends of each. Sometimes they are good, doing their jobs as advertised, other times, not doing jobs or actually being malicious. Stuff happens. In the US our historical records and major law, the constitution, pretty clearly state we agree to trade off some measure of security for being "free-er" than any other peoples. It's a hefty price but worth it, really worth it in the long run, IMO. That's the plan anyway. The other models of government tried out with more and more "control" have always de-evolved into...well, "not nice" places to live. As arnie would say it's a "bahhhd i-de-uh"
Stores have the right to ask for anything they want to, as the customer has the right to reply in full, partially or not at all and go elsewheres. Where it gets sticky is when ALL of it gets mandated "by law", which I'm afraid might be *soon*. That's prognostication on my part and as such is quite liable to be totally wrong or totally right, most likely though normal law of averages would indicate we'll be seeing a lot more "mandated" then what we are seeing now.
My guess on ratshack's policy is that the data was so flawed that it was worthless to them, plus mailings costs, plus whizzed off customers.
Can't tell ya how many cheap free batteries i got and still got a fre of those crummy "free" flashlights they used to give out, but, I went to their stores and still do for the odd part now and then. it's handy, they got specialised stuff, although it has changed a lot over the years.
My second prognostication is it also won't matter much not too far in the future with facial/body language reading recognition tech, no need to ask you who you are, walk into the store, images captured, they'll look then if they want to. Cash sales won't matter then. They got cams going in on the streets, onstar, tracking cell phones, CC records, most medium and large stores already have cams, and etc, etc. It's not that we have lists or not,that's a gimmee, just how much bigger they will get, who will have them, what they will do with them, and how much you'll even know about them personally.
---I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. No place did I address any sort of not caring about the blast victims, that's nuts. As to the framing efforts, it's data, deal with it, it happened, they went way out of their way-and wasted time-by focusing on jewell and by leaking the info to the press, seriously messing with him. they only stopped when they realised it was so blatantly stoopid even a cub reporter could see it.
Oh and the fibbers? Nothing is ever their fault, they don't even bother to even apologise about anything when they screw up. Sometimes like with randy weaver* and his murdered wife, they are forced to fork over cash money when caught screwing up, but at no time do they act "honorably" and admit a mistake. A man will admit when he's wrong, slimeball scumbags hide behind anonymity and the new buzzword catch phrase "national security" when they mess up, like someone(s) sure as heck messed up on 9-11, but so far, no one even so much as fired, a round of promotions all around, new homeland security mega agency, more police powers. Something's screwy there, in an honest government, some heads should rolled and there should have been some resignations, and just don't happen to recall any so far. In the real world, civvie world, where laws actually apply, where you might actually be held accountable for your actions or lack of action, you can't get even close to 1% of the level of a 9-11 screwup and not get fired at a minimum. In government,where laws mostly don't apply and ethics are an option and mutual CYA is the religion, you get promoted, get a bonus, or get re elected or nominated to a higher position.
99.999% of the population can see that, I have no idea why the remainder fail at making that simple observation, but hey, slashdot sure is a big forum.
*weavers crime was not having a 5$ AOW license and for being able to read, the judge/court sent him an incorrect court date to appear. That don't matter though, "just following orders" is "close enough" to ethical behavior in government.
--I tell ya whut, was following this on the teevee same as anyone was, the olympic blast story. After it was obvious what they were doing to jewell then they finally admitted it wasn't him, and then I get the vist I go WTF???? I honestly had a few seconds there I am thinking they are gonna frame me, it was spooky. It's spooky because they CAN if they want to.
Oh ya, homeland insecurity just got signed into law, here come the mega "lists", well beyond the ratshack list. No closing the borders, wide open all over, millions of illegals waltzing in, gonna get given bogus identity cards issued by their consulates, no telling who's getting in and who's here already, but we "need" this law, ya right.
Government speaketh with uber forked tongue on this one.
It stinks and will result in *no good*, IMO.