People get tarred with the same brush all the time. It's not just you. Here in the UK, my car insurance is £1500 ($2000?)/year. Because i'm a 19 year old male.
Sure, that would work great, and it should be illegal to respond to unsolicited e-mail. Unfortunately there's absolutely no way that this could be enforced without the government monitoring every e-mail communication and managing to identify people responding to spam.
That, combined with the immediate blacklisting of the IPs that manage to guess your actual address, seems like a decent solution. However, isn't the problem that some of these open relays may also be used by genuine people to contact you? But I guess you have to draw the line somewhere.
This wouldn't work! It'd only work if two people were sending e-mail to and from each other. If someone was sending e-mail to several people listed on a website, or a business, or whatever, not all messages would get replied to and so they lose money. How would a mailing list work? The potential for loss of YOUR money using this system is far too high. E-mail needs to remain free to remain effective.
But, how does that really solve the problem? How does a user prove that they are not a spammer? It would be very easy for spammers to alter their scripts to automatially reply to confirmation e-mails, as well. OK, they might not do that at the moment, but they would if this system became widespread.
Unlike IM, when I send someone an email, it is unnecessary for them to be online, or have their IM client running in order to receive my message.
Actually, you can send a message to someone who is Offline on ICQ, and they receive it when they connect. MSN Messenger isn't the ONLY IM client, you know:-)
Exceedingly lucky, and I can't believe your ISP doesn't use some sort of spam filter; perhaps you should ask them about it. BTW, who is your e-mail provider?
If you actually got a USB DSL or Cable modem, you deserve your fate.
This really is a rather rude and elitist comment. There are a HELL of a lot of people who don't have access to a decently priced ethernet broadband service. In fact I thought MOST people in America had to use cable modems. Whatsmore, there are even more people who have no broadband access WHATSOEVER. So I stick by my assertion that Xbox live is a service for a rather elitist, niche market.
Actually, the Alcatel modem provided by default with BT's broadband DSL service (UK) only has a USB connector. And plenty, if not most, machines have USB connectors.
But the actual code of WINE is irrelevant. It is going to be different from Microsoft's code anyway. What IS relevant is the interface into the 'black box' - it's IDENTICAL (or designed to be) to the WinAPI, and that is where the copyright violation seems to occur.
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I've been wondering for a while now; isn't WINE kind of illegal? Why hasn't Microsoft cracked down on it yet? This is no attempt at a troll, BTW, just genuine curiosity.
I mean, WINE is attempting to perfectly imitate the Windows API. This seems to me like a breach of copyright. Microsoft create an API and its functionality is copied identically by another application? It actually seems like MS have a genuine case, for once, at legal action. Looks like WINE is doing to Microsoft what Microsoft have done to a lot of competitiors - steal their intellectual property.
Well I guess I must be smoking some 'serious crack' then. Because I think that the software cost could and would be massively cut if Microsoft didn't have the monopoly leverage they do have.
And BTW you misinterpreted what I said. I questioned whether it was cheap to get a modern PC with WinXP and OfficeXP pre-installed - I didn't say it was POSSIBLE (legally).
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OK, so the Xbox assumes that you have an Ethernet-based broadband service. Seems a little niche market to me.
If you have a USB broadband connection, fuck off. If you have proprietory broadband software (AOL?), fuck off. If you have ISDN, fuck off. If you have dialup, fuck off.
Which is basically what they say here. You gotta love Microsoft's attitude.
Bungie recommends 256 Kbps of bandwidth per player for Halo.
Ya know, with multiplayer games getting that bandwidth-hungry and everyone on campus starting to play them, pretty soon it won't be the p2p software which is the problem. Can you imagine all the uni students sitting in their dorms at night with their l33t Xboxes, munching 256k each?
Voice is quite possibly the most annoying development in online gaming there has been:-) I can't stand hearing some total and utter moron yelling some incomprehensible crap on CS, i just mute them immediately. Sure, it was cool at first, for about 2 seconds.
Maybe it is more useful if you're talking to established clan members, I dunno.
WHAT?! How in hell can this work? OK, for dialup, there is one standard. Your modem can try to connect at 56k, 33.6k, 28k, etc, but broadband? I mean there must be hundreds of different standards over the world, ADSL, SDSL, various proprietary cable networks... if it REQUIRES broadband access, presumably it assumes a certain standard? And if it does, it certainly aint gonna be useable by the majority of people.
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People get tarred with the same brush all the time. It's not just you. Here in the UK, my car insurance is £1500 ($2000?)/year. Because i'm a 19 year old male.
Yes :-) ICQ can indeed do that too :-) ICQ rules.
Sure, that would work great, and it should be illegal to respond to unsolicited e-mail. Unfortunately there's absolutely no way that this could be enforced without the government monitoring every e-mail communication and managing to identify people responding to spam.
That, combined with the immediate blacklisting of the IPs that manage to guess your actual address, seems like a decent solution. However, isn't the problem that some of these open relays may also be used by genuine people to contact you? But I guess you have to draw the line somewhere.
This wouldn't work! It'd only work if two people were sending e-mail to and from each other. If someone was sending e-mail to several people listed on a website, or a business, or whatever, not all messages would get replied to and so they lose money. How would a mailing list work? The potential for loss of YOUR money using this system is far too high. E-mail needs to remain free to remain effective.
But, how does that really solve the problem? How does a user prove that they are not a spammer? It would be very easy for spammers to alter their scripts to automatially reply to confirmation e-mails, as well. OK, they might not do that at the moment, but they would if this system became widespread.
Unlike IM, when I send someone an email, it is unnecessary for them to be online, or have their IM client running in order to receive my message.
:-)
Actually, you can send a message to someone who is Offline on ICQ, and they receive it when they connect. MSN Messenger isn't the ONLY IM client, you know
Exceedingly lucky, and I can't believe your ISP doesn't use some sort of spam filter; perhaps you should ask them about it. BTW, who is your e-mail provider?
Presumably, person A's e-mail client automatically whitelists anyone they send e-mail to.
LOL!! Exactly, e-mail still does have a firm place, especially in business.
If you actually got a USB DSL or Cable modem, you deserve your fate.
This really is a rather rude and elitist comment. There are a HELL of a lot of people who don't have access to a decently priced ethernet broadband service. In fact I thought MOST people in America had to use cable modems. Whatsmore, there are even more people who have no broadband access WHATSOEVER. So I stick by my assertion that Xbox live is a service for a rather elitist, niche market.
Actually, the Alcatel modem provided by default with BT's broadband DSL service (UK) only has a USB connector. And plenty, if not most, machines have USB connectors.
Photoshop?
Then how come Apple sued Microsoft for stealing MacOS's interface, with Windows? Wasn't Windows a kind of emulation of MacOS with a few minor changes?
Today's theme for Slashdot is infinite recursion. Where's the 'buffer overflow' story?
But the actual code of WINE is irrelevant. It is going to be different from Microsoft's code anyway. What IS relevant is the interface into the 'black box' - it's IDENTICAL (or designed to be) to the WinAPI, and that is where the copyright violation seems to occur.
I've been wondering for a while now; isn't WINE kind of illegal? Why hasn't Microsoft cracked down on it yet? This is no attempt at a troll, BTW, just genuine curiosity.
I mean, WINE is attempting to perfectly imitate the Windows API. This seems to me like a breach of copyright. Microsoft create an API and its functionality is copied identically by another application? It actually seems like MS have a genuine case, for once, at legal action. Looks like WINE is doing to Microsoft what Microsoft have done to a lot of competitiors - steal their intellectual property.
Someone sends you an Office 2000 compatible .doc file. Now re-answer the question.
But.... isn't that... kind of... emulation?
Emulation = the imitation of something
WINE = the imitation of the WinAPI
Well I guess I must be smoking some 'serious crack' then. Because I think that the software cost could and would be massively cut if Microsoft didn't have the monopoly leverage they do have.
And BTW you misinterpreted what I said. I questioned whether it was cheap to get a modern PC with WinXP and OfficeXP pre-installed - I didn't say it was POSSIBLE (legally).
OK, so the Xbox assumes that you have an Ethernet-based broadband service. Seems a little niche market to me.
If you have a USB broadband connection, fuck off.
If you have proprietory broadband software (AOL?), fuck off.
If you have ISDN, fuck off.
If you have dialup, fuck off.
Which is basically what they say here. You gotta love Microsoft's attitude.
I wonder if there's a hack in the game to get a naked Bill Gates with censor area (his Windows PDA)? :-)
Bungie recommends 256 Kbps of bandwidth per player for Halo.
Ya know, with multiplayer games getting that bandwidth-hungry and everyone on campus starting to play them, pretty soon it won't be the p2p software which is the problem. Can you imagine all the uni students sitting in their dorms at night with their l33t Xboxes, munching 256k each?
that would mean no voice
:-) I can't stand hearing some total and utter moron yelling some incomprehensible crap on CS, i just mute them immediately. Sure, it was cool at first, for about 2 seconds.
Voice is quite possibly the most annoying development in online gaming there has been
Maybe it is more useful if you're talking to established clan members, I dunno.
Xbox Live requires broadband Internet access.
WHAT?! How in hell can this work? OK, for dialup, there is one standard. Your modem can try to connect at 56k, 33.6k, 28k, etc, but broadband? I mean there must be hundreds of different standards over the world, ADSL, SDSL, various proprietary cable networks... if it REQUIRES broadband access, presumably it assumes a certain standard? And if it does, it certainly aint gonna be useable by the majority of people.