These results are all well and good (especially if they used an in-house compiler to bump the performance up) but what happens when this architecture scales?
IT Pros are not going to fall for the 'fastest' in the transaction processing department. Managers? That's another story.
IMO, If this server can't scale well Intel might as well market the results of this test as a 32 processor paper weight.
If you're planning on using Red Hat in your enterprise, these are my suggestions before proceeding:
1) DON'T listen to the Red Hat salesmen, their whole existence in life is to sell you their product. Get a rough idea what you want to implement and go to the product newsgroups/forums/websites for information on what to do. Products like Apache, Samba, and the various Unix SQL products are the big products I place under this 'umbrella'. I place other administrators experiences and advice in higher regard than the average salesman/person.
2) Be wary of changes in each of the new versions of Red Hat as file system and other system changes may render a program, that works on a pervious version of Red Hat, completely useless. Microsoft's.Net Framework for Linux is a great example of programs not working due to major changes in versions of operating systems.
3) Are there other flavors of Unix in your enterprise? If so, you're going to have to do a TON of dev homework to get technologies such as Kerberos implemented into your enterprise. The reason I say this is that the master source code is designed to work, out of the box, for Free BSD. The Kerberos distribution for Red Hat works for Red hat. However, if you're implementing (for example) IRIX machines into your enterprise, you'll need to know things like the IRIX command line tags to run various Kerberos programs and then port them from RedHat/Free BSD to IRIX.
4) Read any non-GNU licensing, support, and upgrade agreeements VERY carefully before proceeding with a potential purchase.
5) Make sure their Hardware Compatability List for Red Hat will be acceptable for your company's budgetary requirements.
"New bugs were discovered in Netscape's implementation of Java has been found which allows a remote site to read any file on the client machine and to set up a Java server which anyone can connect to. Brown Orifice HTTPD starts a Java server which allows others to read files on your machine."
Ya bunch o' n00bs.
Repeat after me.
"I will read articles fully before replying and allowing Dolemite to make you look like rank amateurs."
In a previous posting about my Beta Testing comments of The Sims Online, I had noted that one of the problems with this game was 100% right on the money after reading this new story about the Sims.
EA is soooo losing touch with their customers.
First, it was EA completely and utterly screwing up their '007: Nightfire' release on all gaming platforms. This resulted in the release of a PC platform that was so buggy, poorly written, and barely playable. Not only that, EA had a HUGE chance to cash in on getting Half-Life fans transfer over to this game for Multi-Player and Modding. There was a huge interest in re-creating maps from every single Bond Move, but thanks to EA, that never happened.
When is Nvida going to pull their collective heads out of their rectums and add methods for Gamers to increase their refresh rates and their frames per second on XP?
This is the biggest feature missing from their products and needs to be addressed!
Ordinary Linux folks abandoned Netscape in droves when AOL began to ruin and remove all the cool things that Linux/Unix users loved about this formerly cool product.
AOL's priorty, at the time (late 90's) was:
- Remove LDAP functionality - Ignore major security issues before RTM - Focus all efforts on making a cool GUI for shopping.
It's not entirely unlikely that something like this can happen.
- The AWP Whore - The Master of a weapon everyone hates.
- The Hacker - Can't play CS and master it on his own so he cheats his way to a greater self-esteem.
- The Server Admin with a God Complex - Usually 12 years old and loves to run the admin_rape or admin_llama command on anyone at the drop of a hat.
- The Whiner - No bottles of wine here! This person loves to whine about people who are kicking his ass and can't figure out how to get better at the game.
- The Camper - No tents, no campfire. He just likes to sit in places on the map that none of the action on the map is near.
- The Scardey n00b - This person is afraid to take risks and usually looses the round for his team.
- The n00b - This person usually runs around the map not knowing what to do. They also seem to never be able to get out of their spawn without firing a shot.
- And don't forget the rest of the cast of individuals who never play as a team and only care about their score.
Please let us know STOP When you finally decide to stop scotch taping code within code STOP and write Java from the ground up STOP Finally, please make sure STOP that the new Java STOP does not have the built-in security STOP of swiss cheese STOP (full of holes) STOP Until then, please stop with these news releases STOP which only bump your stock price up one Penny (Canadian) for a day STOP and release a real language that isn't the STOP electronic form of molasses STOP
Sincerely,
ME
Another customer who has to use another laggedy product from Sun. STOP
1) Sun Java, by many developers admissions, is one of the most poorly written technologies in this day and age? 2) One of the biggest Drawbacks for Distributed Transactions is not the Operating Systems mentioned above but the limited protocols available for the Distributed Transaction Model to use? This is an issue on all operating systems on the market. 3) Interoperability will continue to be a roadblock for years to come? 4) Solutions like these and any alternatives are restrictive in it's archetecture? 5) No matter what the OS, language, or application is, resource conflicts will still be a major problem in this model. 6) Many of the current applications used in the Distributed transaction model are old, outdated, and are an increasing liability to the problems inherent in said model. 7) Scalability. There is no mention of this at all. Even the link above implies a single server architecture. 8) Ease of Development. Even you mention above that Java Classloaders are a hard thing to grok. How are Developers to create an application with such a complex language to wade through?
The problems and limits with the Distributed Transaction model is hardly an OS or a programming language issue. It's a much, much more broader issue that needs to be recognized and addressed.
No one can say Unix/Java is much better at Distributed Transactions when it's in the same boat as Windows Operating systems with the same strenghts and weaknesses.
Instead of hacking MUD's and playing Ultima 2 on my Apple ][e, in the days I went to college, kids today are hacking games like 'Counter-Strike' and pirating music.
Slashdot Mirror
These data files are nothing but formatted text files. Zip them up if you have to.
Dolemite
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These results are all well and good (especially if they used an in-house compiler to bump the performance up) but what happens when this architecture scales?
IT Pros are not going to fall for the 'fastest' in the transaction processing department. Managers? That's another story.
IMO, If this server can't scale well Intel might as well market the results of this test as a 32 processor paper weight.
Dolemite
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Put a tax on a technology in a sluggish economy.
I'm in the wrong business. I wish I had the power to make dumb proposals such as this.
10% tax on Espresso and Bubble Tea!!!
Dolemite
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...is not even mentioned. The thing that made early Quake suck was that servers could be ping flooded and the game would die.
That and Id never addressed hacking issues that ruined the game. Oh wait, this aspect about quake hasn't changed at all. Never mind.
Dolemite
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Yes it does. Washington state prosecutes spam senders from across the nation and the laws are not felonies.
Dolemite
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...HOOKED ON PHONICS!!!!
Dolemite
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Since nine times out of ten the spam is sent across state lines, should the penalties be a Felony?
Dolemite
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If you're planning on using Red Hat in your enterprise, these are my suggestions before proceeding:
.Net Framework for Linux is a great example of programs not working due to major changes in versions of operating systems.
1) DON'T listen to the Red Hat salesmen, their whole existence in life is to sell you their product. Get a rough idea what you want to implement and go to the product newsgroups/forums/websites for information on what to do. Products like Apache, Samba, and the various Unix SQL products are the big products I place under this 'umbrella'. I place other administrators experiences and advice in higher regard than the average salesman/person.
2) Be wary of changes in each of the new versions of Red Hat as file system and other system changes may render a program, that works on a pervious version of Red Hat, completely useless. Microsoft's
3) Are there other flavors of Unix in your enterprise? If so, you're going to have to do a TON of dev homework to get technologies such as Kerberos implemented into your enterprise. The reason I say this is that the master source code is designed to work, out of the box, for Free BSD. The Kerberos distribution for Red Hat works for Red hat. However, if you're implementing (for example) IRIX machines into your enterprise, you'll need to know things like the IRIX command line tags to run various Kerberos programs and then port them from RedHat/Free BSD to IRIX.
4) Read any non-GNU licensing, support, and upgrade agreeements VERY carefully before proceeding with a potential purchase.
5) Make sure their Hardware Compatability List for Red Hat will be acceptable for your company's budgetary requirements.
Good Luck!
Dolemite
_____________________________
"New bugs were discovered in Netscape's implementation of Java has been
found which allows a remote site to read any file on the client machine
and to set up a Java server which anyone can connect to. Brown Orifice
HTTPD starts a Java server which allows others to read files on your
machine."
Ya bunch o' n00bs.
Repeat after me.
"I will read articles fully before replying and allowing Dolemite to make you look like rank amateurs."
Hahahahahaha
Kisses
Dolemite
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When oh when will Sun Catch a clue?
3 469
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=66433&cid=612
Dolemite
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In a previous posting about my Beta Testing comments of The Sims Online, I had noted that one of the problems with this game was 100% right on the money after reading this new story about the Sims.
EA is soooo losing touch with their customers.
First, it was EA completely and utterly screwing up their '007: Nightfire' release on all gaming platforms. This resulted in the release of a PC platform that was so buggy, poorly written, and barely playable. Not only that, EA had a HUGE chance to cash in on getting Half-Life fans transfer over to this game for Multi-Player and Modding. There was a huge interest in re-creating maps from every single Bond Move, but thanks to EA, that never happened.
Think I'm wrong? Check this out!
Damn, I'm going to go buy a lottery ticket now after this prediction coming true!
Dolemite
_____________________
When is Nvida going to pull their collective heads out of their rectums and add methods for Gamers to increase their refresh rates and their frames per second on XP?
This is the biggest feature missing from their products and needs to be addressed!
Dolemite
_________________________
Hitler was an art student before gaining power.
Me thinks this is a parental cop out for not knowing how to actually be a parent.
Dolemite
________________
I would have thought there had been a T-Mobile Sidekick cluster running Linux by now? ::sigh::
Dolemite
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It's amazing how comments like drix's seem to forget that AOL single handedly killed Netscape's foothold in the marketplace in the 90's.
Furthermore, wasn't Netscape bundled with all Unix flavors before the AOL flub?
Out with LDAP support and security features and in with the slick GUI!
Shop, shop, shop!
Don't blame MS for AOL's mistakes.
Dolemite
___________________
Ordinary Linux folks abandoned Netscape in droves when AOL began to ruin and remove all the cool things that Linux/Unix users loved about this formerly cool product.
AOL's priorty, at the time (late 90's) was:
- Remove LDAP functionality
- Ignore major security issues before RTM
- Focus all efforts on making a cool GUI for shopping.
It's not entirely unlikely that something like this can happen.
Dolemite
__________________
They have AT LEAST 100 lbs of gear to hump on top of everything mentioned above. That is if they aren't carrying a machine gun too.
D
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I can see the cast of characters now:
- The AWP Whore - The Master of a weapon everyone hates.
- The Hacker - Can't play CS and master it on his own so he cheats his way to a greater self-esteem.
- The Server Admin with a God Complex - Usually 12 years old and loves to run the admin_rape or admin_llama command on anyone at the drop of a hat.
- The Whiner - No bottles of wine here! This person loves to whine about people who are kicking his ass and can't figure out how to get better at the game.
- The Camper - No tents, no campfire. He just likes to sit in places on the map that none of the action on the map is near.
- The Scardey n00b - This person is afraid to take risks and usually looses the round for his team.
- The n00b - This person usually runs around the map not knowing what to do. They also seem to never be able to get out of their spawn without firing a shot.
- And don't forget the rest of the cast of individuals who never play as a team and only care about their score.
This sounds like a mess of fun....NOT!
Dolemite
_______________________
Dear Sun Microsystems STOP
Please let us know STOP
When you finally decide to stop scotch taping code within code STOP
and write Java from the ground up STOP
Finally, please make sure STOP
that the new Java STOP
does not have the built-in security STOP
of swiss cheese STOP
(full of holes) STOP
Until then, please stop with these news releases STOP
which only bump your stock price up one Penny (Canadian) for a day STOP
and release a real language that isn't the STOP
electronic form of molasses STOP
Sincerely,
ME
Another customer who has to use another laggedy product from Sun. STOP
Is BeOs going to mow everyone down out of left field?
Come on, you're holding out! Spill it!
Dolemite
_____________________
How can this statement be true if:
1) Sun Java, by many developers admissions, is one of the most poorly written technologies in this day and age?
2) One of the biggest Drawbacks for Distributed Transactions is not the Operating Systems mentioned above but the limited protocols available for the Distributed Transaction Model to use? This is an issue on all operating systems on the market.
3) Interoperability will continue to be a roadblock for years to come?
4) Solutions like these and any alternatives are restrictive in it's archetecture?
5) No matter what the OS, language, or application is, resource conflicts will still be a major problem in this model.
6) Many of the current applications used in the Distributed transaction model are old, outdated, and are an increasing liability to the problems inherent in said model.
7) Scalability. There is no mention of this at all. Even the link above implies a single server architecture.
8) Ease of Development. Even you mention above that Java Classloaders are a hard thing to grok. How are Developers to create an application with such a complex language to wade through?
The problems and limits with the Distributed Transaction model is hardly an OS or a programming language issue. It's a much, much more broader issue that needs to be recognized and addressed.
No one can say Unix/Java is much better at Distributed Transactions when it's in the same boat as Windows Operating systems with the same strenghts and weaknesses.
Dolemite
_________________
many with talents that are a bit harder to pin down.
You mean like alcoholic, kleptomaniac, robots that are benders of steel?
I know what you mean. How do you classify such a talent?
Dolemite
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Instead of hacking MUD's and playing Ultima 2 on my Apple ][e, in the days I went to college, kids today are hacking games like 'Counter-Strike' and pirating music.
Dolemite
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So what if this Developer who makes this in-house app for you leaves and changes/upgrades to the code need to be made?
Will new deveopers be able to understand the code?
Will the original devloper have good coding skills?
What happens when the developer goes on vacation and the app breaks?
These are the types of questions your managers will fire at you as reasons not to do this.
Dolemite
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...The army has a long way to go in the equipment deparment like tents, food and weaponry.
Dolemite
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