If you think "looks native" has ANYTHING to do with usability, you are entirely unqualified to judge the usability of an app. So I stand by my statement that your app is an unusable mess.
SWT doesn't just make it look native, it calls the OS's underlying libraries... SWT is (formerly) IBM's Java Native Interface library, written in C to do those calls. As such, its C code is wildly different on each OS. For that matter, the Linux/BSD versions require that GTK be installed, because there is no QT version of SWT.
All those things are artifacts of how crappy java is, in order to get anything done you need a metric ton of framework crap slapped on, and this is why people say "java is fast to develop in" - they mean, the frameworks make it faster to develop stuff, as long as you're developing exactly the kind of thing those frameworks are designed for. C/C++ world tends to have libraries that provide you with functionality you then plug in to your code, rather than having to code the way the framework wants you to (roughly).
You could use Ruby on Rails
Hypocrisy detected! Please check the highlighted sections.
It really depends on what you're doing. If you're developing a database-backed website, I suspect that the Java solution* would be the quickest to deliver, followed by Python with C/C++ coming in dead last.
*That is assuming that the dev team uses appropriate technologies such as Spring and Hibernate, and not straight Servlets/JSPs/JSFs and JDBC.
You have a far bigger problem with local apps. The problems are your APIs. You have (presumably) a web server somewhere serving data to your local apps.
Actually, the GP addressed this by having the local apps talk directly to the remote DB, which means you'd have to have a separate DB account (with proper permissions, since you no longer have a web app doing security checks first and you can't trust any data coming directly from the client) for each and every user of your system.
Yes, clearly the answer to someone asking what we can replace specific web technologies (the one thing Java is good at) is to suggest building local apps (one of the things C/C++ is good at).
Hey, can you compile a version of your replacement app that runs on iOS? Android? Windows? Linux? OSX? FreeBSD?
If you answered no to any of those, *bzzt* sorry, your solution has lost potential customers and is rejected out of hand.
That's blatantly not true. If you're trying to make money in the arts and you're caught plagiarizing you can very easily see your entire career finished.
...Which explains why a good third of pop music sets lyrics and new instruments to "Canon in D"?
Pretty sure the GP meant plagiarizing works still under copyright.
Besides, I don't recall hearing any pop music that sounds like Pachelbel's Canon recently...
Um, check the date on that blog post. March 22nd, 2011.
This was a feature added, by default, to Internet Explorer 9.0. It is a part of the browser. If you are running Windows 7 and have updated to Internet Explorer 9.0 then it is already doing this. All Windows 8 does is have Internet Explorer 10 installed by default.
Yes, this article is the one they should have linked to.
Scroll down to the part labeled "Microsoft SmartScreen for Internet Explorer and now for Windows too."
This package has been superceded by the package nintendochannel, proceed with install? [Y/n]
You only wish installing stuff on the Wii and 3DS were that easy.
For those people who don't know what I'm referring to, Nintendo Channel is a Wii channel available for free in the Wii store that Nintendo posts videos and other info about their current and upcoming games.
If a non-privileged program is permitted to ignore the fact that a file is set to be Read-Only, you have absolutely no protection against malicious code changing anything it wants
Windows Defender is a system process and likely runs as the System user, a special account used by non-interactive services that require Administrative privileges.
1. Joyent isn't textdrive, i.e. textdrive doesn't exist anymore, so the lifetime obligation has been exhausted.
Given that the summary linked to the original offer...
We're pleased to announce a special offer that combines three great products in our family -- TextDrive, Strongspace and Joyent -- available for a one-time payment of just $499.
Want to try that again?
2. Whose lifetime? The service's, i.e. no shorter than its lifetime.
What they said was
As long as we exist.
The thing is, even though TextDrive, Inc. no longer exists, "three products in our family" and including two products other than TextDrive makes the offer explicitly from the parent company Joyent, Inc. The same company which still hosts the article author's site.
I'm sure they are ready to sue when someone makes a similar sized device AFTER they introduce theirs.
Actually, I hear Samsung was going to introduce the iPad Mini as evidence that Apple is copying Samsung in the Apple v. Samsung trial, but the judge wouldn't let them.
So, if a song gets leaked out on the Internet before it's broadcast on the radio, then whomever distributed it has the broadcast rights?
Or is there some clause like the persion has to be the copyright owner?
P.S. This broadcast treaty would be unconstitutional in the US if there's no time limit on it... from Section 8:
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries
When you're in the business of pissing off companies, governments, and occasionally people, it's a bit naive to assume that they won't respond in some way..
First, you have 2000 and ME in the wrong order, Win 2000 came out at the beginning of 2000 while Win ME came out at the end of 2000.
Second, your mixing the home and business lines in your list. ME and 2000 were in different lines, it wasn't a single combined line until XP came out in late 2001.
Third, if you insist on listing both lines, you'd missing NT 3.5x and NT 3.1x... NT 3.1 was the first NT version. A true combined line list would be:
7 - Good | Vista - Bad | XP - Good | ME - Bad | 2000 Good | 98 - Bad | NT4 - Good | 95 - Bad | NT 3.5x - Good | NT 3.1 - Bad | 3.1 - Good
If you deal with separate lines, it's a bit murkier.
Home: 7 - Good | Vista - Bad | XP - Good | ME - Bad | 98 - Good | 95 - Bad | 3.1 - Good
As you can see, 98 and 95 are backward there. 98SE wasn't as bad, but 95 seemed a lot more stable than the original 98 did.
Business: 7 - Good | Vista - Bad | XP - Good | 2000 - Bad | NT4 - Good | NT 3.5 - Bad | NT 3.1 - Good
This one's even worse than the previous. 2000 was good, NT4 was... well... the fact that it needed 6 service packs in a 4 year period says something about it. NT 3.5 and 3.1 are reversed on that list. As I recall, NT 3.1 had a lot of bugs that 3.5 fixed.
I'm beginning to think that Microsoft isn't allowing the new GUI to be disabled in order to purposely have a bad Windows version.
Then, Windows 9 will come out in a year or two and suddenly have the option of booting to the old Start menu, thus perpetuating the "every other version of Windows is good" trend.
The complaint isn't Steam startup time, it's the startup time of the individual programs that are launched from Steam.
What Steam is doing is checking the central server to see whether you actually own the game as well as checking if there are any updates to it. The latter is necessary for certain multiplayer games that update a lot as Steam doesn't always immediately pick up that there are updates to them if they were updated after Steam was started. This is most noticeable with Team Fortress 2 but also Half-Life 2: Deathmatch, Day of Defeat: Source, and Counter-Strike: Source as they all use the same game engine (CS:S's updates are delayed, though). Likely CS:GO and DOTA2 also have this problem as both are still in beta testing with CS:GO launching in 12 days.
Running the game in offline mode should make that screen a lot shorter, but also disables achievements.
(When it sits there for a few seconds going "Preparing to launch Portal" or whatever, and you want to tell it what's with all the preparing and to stop preparing and just go.:-))
Unfortunately, the Internet doesn't run at Ludicrous Speed.
And ya, steam has everything except blizzard and EA's top tier games, and a few MMO's (because if you're an MMO maker steam is really not something you want to be on if you can avoid it).
That and for the larger MMOs, most of the ones not on Steam are by Blizzard and EA... Square-Enix, Sony Online Entertainment, Turbine, and CCP (makers of EVE Online) all have their MMOs on Steam.
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Was it advice or an opinion? Who first used the phrase "for every purpose" .. was it the parent or was it you?
It was implicit when the GGP suggested using C/C++ instead of Java.
If you think "looks native" has ANYTHING to do with usability, you are entirely unqualified to judge the usability of an app. So I stand by my statement that your app is an unusable mess.
SWT doesn't just make it look native, it calls the OS's underlying libraries... SWT is (formerly) IBM's Java Native Interface library, written in C to do those calls. As such, its C code is wildly different on each OS. For that matter, the Linux/BSD versions require that GTK be installed, because there is no QT version of SWT.
All those things are artifacts of how crappy java is, in order to get anything done you need a metric ton of framework crap slapped on, and this is why people say "java is fast to develop in" - they mean, the frameworks make it faster to develop stuff, as long as you're developing exactly the kind of thing those frameworks are designed for. C/C++ world tends to have libraries that provide you with functionality you then plug in to your code, rather than having to code the way the framework wants you to (roughly).
You could use Ruby on Rails
Hypocrisy detected! Please check the highlighted sections.
It really depends on what you're doing. If you're developing a database-backed website, I suspect that the Java solution* would be the quickest to deliver, followed by Python with C/C++ coming in dead last.
*That is assuming that the dev team uses appropriate technologies such as Spring and Hibernate, and not straight Servlets/JSPs/JSFs and JDBC.
You have a far bigger problem with local apps. The problems are your APIs. You have (presumably) a web server somewhere serving data to your local apps.
Actually, the GP addressed this by having the local apps talk directly to the remote DB, which means you'd have to have a separate DB account (with proper permissions, since you no longer have a web app doing security checks first and you can't trust any data coming directly from the client) for each and every user of your system.
Yes, clearly the answer to someone asking what we can replace specific web technologies (the one thing Java is good at) is to suggest building local apps (one of the things C/C++ is good at).
Hey, can you compile a version of your replacement app that runs on iOS? Android? Windows? Linux? OSX? FreeBSD?
If you answered no to any of those, *bzzt* sorry, your solution has lost potential customers and is rejected out of hand.
There are some things in Java that are decent. It's just that none of them are on the client side.
That's blatantly not true. If you're trying to make money in the arts and you're caught plagiarizing you can very easily see your entire career finished.
...Which explains why a good third of pop music sets lyrics and new instruments to "Canon in D"?
Pretty sure the GP meant plagiarizing works still under copyright.
Besides, I don't recall hearing any pop music that sounds like Pachelbel's Canon recently...
Um, check the date on that blog post. March 22nd, 2011.
This was a feature added, by default, to Internet Explorer 9.0. It is a part of the browser. If you are running Windows 7 and have updated to Internet Explorer 9.0 then it is already doing this. All Windows 8 does is have Internet Explorer 10 installed by default.
Yes, this article is the one they should have linked to.
Scroll down to the part labeled "Microsoft SmartScreen for Internet Explorer and now for Windows too."
It seems from the MSDN link this can be avoided by simply not using Internet Explorer, as if you needed another reason not to
This was IE only in Windows 7 with IE9, but it's built into Windows 8 now
and applies to all applications marked as downloads.
So, if you download something from Firefox, then attempt to run it, data about it is sent to Microsoft.
You chose to mention EA instead of CapCom for your example? What were you thinking?
This package has been superceded by the package nintendochannel, proceed with install? [Y/n]
You only wish installing stuff on the Wii and 3DS were that easy.
For those people who don't know what I'm referring to, Nintendo Channel is a Wii channel available for free in the Wii store that Nintendo posts videos and other info about their current and upcoming games.
If a non-privileged program is permitted to ignore the fact that a file is set to be Read-Only, you have absolutely no protection against malicious code changing anything it wants
Windows Defender is a system process and likely runs as the System user, a special account used by non-interactive services that require Administrative privileges.
1. Joyent isn't textdrive, i.e. textdrive doesn't exist anymore, so the lifetime obligation has been exhausted.
Given that the summary linked to the original offer...
We're pleased to announce a special offer that combines three great products in our family -- TextDrive, Strongspace and Joyent -- available for a one-time payment of just $499.
Want to try that again?
2. Whose lifetime? The service's, i.e. no shorter than its lifetime.
What they said was
As long as we exist.
The thing is, even though TextDrive, Inc. no longer exists, "three products in our family" and including two products other than TextDrive makes the offer explicitly from the parent company Joyent, Inc. The same company which still hosts the article author's site.
I'm sure they are ready to sue when someone makes a similar sized device AFTER they introduce theirs.
Actually, I hear Samsung was going to introduce the iPad Mini as evidence that Apple is copying Samsung in the Apple v. Samsung trial, but the judge wouldn't let them.
So, if a song gets leaked out on the Internet before it's broadcast on the radio, then whomever distributed it has the broadcast rights?
Or is there some clause like the persion has to be the copyright owner?
P.S. This broadcast treaty would be unconstitutional in the US if there's no time limit on it... from Section 8:
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries
(emphasis mine)
When you're in the business of pissing off companies, governments, and occasionally people, it's a bit naive to assume that they won't respond in some way..
First, you have 2000 and ME in the wrong order, Win 2000 came out at the beginning of 2000 while Win ME came out at the end of 2000.
Second, your mixing the home and business lines in your list. ME and 2000 were in different lines, it wasn't a single combined line until XP came out in late 2001.
Third, if you insist on listing both lines, you'd missing NT 3.5x and NT 3.1x... NT 3.1 was the first NT version. A true combined line list would be:
7 - Good | Vista - Bad | XP - Good | ME - Bad | 2000 Good | 98 - Bad | NT4 - Good | 95 - Bad | NT 3.5x - Good | NT 3.1 - Bad | 3.1 - Good
If you deal with separate lines, it's a bit murkier.
Home:
7 - Good | Vista - Bad | XP - Good | ME - Bad | 98 - Good | 95 - Bad | 3.1 - Good
As you can see, 98 and 95 are backward there. 98SE wasn't as bad, but 95 seemed a lot more stable than the original 98 did.
Business:
7 - Good | Vista - Bad | XP - Good | 2000 - Bad | NT4 - Good | NT 3.5 - Bad | NT 3.1 - Good
This one's even worse than the previous. 2000 was good, NT4 was... well... the fact that it needed 6 service packs in a 4 year period says something about it. NT 3.5 and 3.1 are reversed on that list. As I recall, NT 3.1 had a lot of bugs that 3.5 fixed.
I'm beginning to think that Microsoft isn't allowing the new GUI to be disabled in order to purposely have a bad Windows version.
Then, Windows 9 will come out in a year or two and suddenly have the option of booting to the old Start menu, thus perpetuating the "every other version of Windows is good" trend.
I'm hoping its something that can beat the Wii at its own low-end game.
And by "Wii" you also mean the WiiU, which is due out before the Ouya, right?
I've yet to see calculus applied by any programming.
How does your laptop computer calculate remaining battery life?
For the percentage, battery power remaining / total battery power.
For the time left, battery power remaining / total battery power * consumption rate.
Last I checked, multiplication and division involving variables was Algebra, not Calculus.
How does your browser calculate remaining download time?
time / bytes transferred * (file size in bytes - bytes transferred)
For instance, if I'm downloading a 1 MiB file and I downloaded 256 KiB in 1 second:
1 second / 262144 bytes * (1048576 bytes - 262144 bytes) = 3 seconds remaining
Again, Algebra.
How does your tablet distinguish between gestures?
Now that one I'm not sure about, but I highly suspect it involves Algebra, not Calculus.
The complaint isn't Steam startup time, it's the startup time of the individual programs that are launched from Steam.
What Steam is doing is checking the central server to see whether you actually own the game as well as checking if there are any updates to it. The latter is necessary for certain multiplayer games that update a lot as Steam doesn't always immediately pick up that there are updates to them if they were updated after Steam was started. This is most noticeable with Team Fortress 2 but also Half-Life 2: Deathmatch, Day of Defeat: Source, and Counter-Strike: Source as they all use the same game engine (CS:S's updates are delayed, though). Likely CS:GO and DOTA2 also have this problem as both are still in beta testing with CS:GO launching in 12 days.
Running the game in offline mode should make that screen a lot shorter, but also disables achievements.
(When it sits there for a few seconds going "Preparing to launch Portal" or whatever, and you want to tell it what's with all the preparing and to stop preparing and just go. :-))
Unfortunately, the Internet doesn't run at Ludicrous Speed.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Steam is going to have non-free software on it... it is a software store, after all.
Hat-Life 2 is still going strong. Releasing Hat-Life 3 would likely piss people off who have put time and/or money into 2.
And ya, steam has everything except blizzard and EA's top tier games, and a few MMO's (because if you're an MMO maker steam is really not something you want to be on if you can avoid it).
That and for the larger MMOs, most of the ones not on Steam are by Blizzard and EA... Square-Enix, Sony Online Entertainment, Turbine, and CCP (makers of EVE Online) all have their MMOs on Steam.