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Windows 8 Changes Host File Blocking
An anonymous reader writes "Windows 8 has been confirmed to not only ignore, but also modify the hosts file. As soon as a website that should be blocked is accessed, the corresponding entry in the hosts file is removed, even if the hosts file is read-only. The hosts file is a popular, cross-platform way of blocking access to certain domains, such as ad-serving websites."
So, after reading the article this can be summarized as "Microsoft gives you one more reason to disable Windows Defender and use a third party AV app."
Just add the hosts file to the Defender's white list. If you know how to edit the hosts file, you should know how to add it to the white list.
Otherwise, who says the edits to that file were not malicious.
APK's sole existence seems to be reliant on advocating the hosts file as a means of host filtering, despite more modern, flexible, easier, convenient and powerful alternatives existing.
How will APK stay relevant with the demise of the hosts file in Windows 8? Stay tuned....
If you ignore ACs because they are anonymous - you're an idiot.
Before everyone gets all excited... the article has already been updated with the fact that this is a feature of “windows defender” (and imo a reasonable one) and can be disabled.
The hosts file is popular for blocking sites, but also popular for redirecting to phishing sites as well. This seems like a very ineffective way of solving that problem, but at least it doesn’t look like there is some evil malicious intent..
In other news, running certain anti-virus products will prevent you from writing to the boot sector while they are running
As comments in the article point out, this behavior can be turned off by going to the Windows Defender settings... But by and large this make sense for 95% of Windows users as they will have NO clue about the hosts file, and even less of a clue if it has been modified for a phising attack. Nice to see microsoft take another step forward in protecting the blindingly ignorant and inept.
Prepare them for the shitstorm.
This seems like one of those situations where someone didn't think of the potential side effects. The goal was to fix some attack on specific sites, but the solution failed to consider that the mere presence of entries like Facebook is not enough to determine of the entry is in fact malicious and/or unintended. Security and expected behavior is compromised in too high a number of situations to use this software imo.
Since, in the vast majority of cases, having facebook.com or doubleclick in the hosts file is the result of malware, Windows Defender is undoing what is likely malicious work. But... it still leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
I was planning to buy the upgrade from Win7 to Win8. Now I won't.
Yeah, this is basically a cack-handed way of fixing malicious hosts redirects.
It'll prevent malicious programmes from sending you to fake Facebook, but at the expense of entirely overriding any preferences YOU as tthe computer owner might wish to make via the Hosts file.
It's a staggering level of incompetence that this is their solution. It needs to be changed and they need to find either another way of solving it or allow some form of granulation and user input.
Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce
Hope you enjoy your new 'media consumption appliance'. Its becoming less and less of a 'general purpose computer' every day.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
The internet (or networks in general) are more than the web.
The main problem I see is I've never worked at a place without an airgapped or at least hyperfirewalled production/engineering network. Its actually pretty rare for that design to have a DNS server on the private net. So host file distribution is popular. As is forcing people to use/memorize ip addresses. After all, its not like a "computer" could automate hostname lookups or something like that, and enforcement and procedures give management something to do.
Anyway sounds like upgrading a production network from hosts files to DNS system suddenly got a whole lot more exciting if you've got windows 8.. Then again, people who use windows for production are pretty much already used to suffering and intense pain, so making it even less ready for the enterprise is not so big of an idea.
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
Just fine - I've done a number of posts on the source site already, posting portions of what I have here a ton of times (mind you, which my "skeptic naysayers" here haven't disproven a single shred of to date)... I'm just waiting for the page to update for responses I gave others there (takes time on some boards, part of what I LIKE about /. is "instant on" with posts).
It's not a "demise" by the by - MS Sec Essentials is the KEY "workaround"... so you know. There's another I posted but it hasn't come up yet there (databasepath parm in tcp/ip parms in registry & redirecting it).
You obviously also aren't aware of some of my posts over time here. I've been "into" a LOT more than hosts my man... a LOT more. I'll post some for YOUR reference after this post as an "addendum"... fair enough? Good.
Anyways:
Do I *like* what I saw on Win8 there? Heck no... especially NOT on hosts files!
However/Then again??
MS "fanboy" extraordinaire here or not??
I don't think much of Win8, due to "METRO"! Man, I've said it before - MS has to get rid of Mr. Ballmer & his crew responsible for it... too far, too fast, not enough market on PC's yet for touch screen (tablets, & phones, yes... PC OS? No!)
Not that he's some evil guy, in fact, I hear he's a hell of a NICE guy who's great @ grooming mgt. talent (& that's also from an MS mgt. man named Foredecker who posts here or did). I've said this many times here before in fact.
However - He's not a "King Billy" calibre man, who was a computer coder/technologist AND business man... that's what MS needs.
Fact is - of ALL the MS guys I am aware of, personally or otherwise?
I hope Russinovich, former "co-worker" of mine thru Sunbelt where we sold wares together takes over 1 day. We've had diff.'s over time, but he'd get MY vote.
Anyways - Pity is, Win8 "under-the-covers" is BETTER than Win7 even in a LOT of ways, such as "self-terminating services"!
(Which tuners/tweakers like myself have been into for decades, ala my guides for it from 1997 onwards, & I'd be as bold to say they WERE the 1st of their kind, as I have yet to find older ones).
Proofs: I.E./E.G.-> I have done so since 1997-1998 with the most viewed, highly rated guide online for Windows security there really is which came from the fact I also created the 1st guide for securing Windows, highly rated @ NEOWIN (as far back as 1998-2001) here:
http://www.neowin.net/news/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text
& from as far back as 1997 -> http://web.archive.org/web/20020205091023/www.ntcompatible.com/article1.shtml which Neowin above picked up on & rated very highly.
That has evolved more currently, into the MOST viewed & highly rated one there is for years now since 2008 online in the 1st URL link above...
Which has well over 500,000++ views online (actually MORE, but 1 site with 75,000 views of it went offline/out-of-business) & it's been made either:
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1.) An Essential Guide
2.) 5-5 star rated
3.) A "sticky-pinned" thread
4.) Most viewed in the category it's in (usually security)
5.) Got me PAID by winning a contest @ PCPitStop (quite unexpectedly - I was only posting it for the good of all, & yes, "the Lord works in mysterious ways", it even got me PAID -> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2007/09/04/pc-pitstop-winners/ (see January 2008))
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Anyhow/anyways, all that aside?
My std. post on hosts, of course...
For those of you that run Microsoft Windows 32 or 64 bit? An automated hosts file creation & mgt. program:
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APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++ 32/64-bit:
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One workable OS, which is substandard to the competition but perfectly usable, then the next is a complete turd (ME, Vista, 8).
This is another good reason to stick with Windows 7, giving Windows 8 a miss.
One common use of the hosts file is to test staging servers, particularly web servers before pushing them live, and without the complexity and time it takes to set up an additional DNS server.
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...and haven't since 98. How is this relevant to me?
Not a problem on my LAN. Those hosts are blocked in the main DNS server. And don't even bother trying to bypass DHCP DNS assignment. My firewall rules don't forward destination port 53 packets to the WAN interface. You either use my DNS server or you get ICMP administratively-prohibited errors. Problem solved. Next!
Just tried it on XP and 7 with MSE. MSE removes ad.doubleclick.net from the read only HOSTS file. So it's not just windows 8.
This is silly. You are advised to disable any AV present on a Windows system when modding a host file for this sort of filtering and re-enable it afterward to prevent EXACTLY this sort of behavior.
I thought /. was supposed to have more technically adept editors/readers.
Actually, setting up a DNS server in a windows environment takes about 2 minutes. And has a GUI so if you've never heard of DNS before you can often muddle your way through it.
windows server has a DNS server.
Hardly. At the enterprise level there are multiple different ways of handling situations such as this. Which one(s) you choose depends upon how you've organized Active Directory and your network.
But a different point is that this is an OLD way of phishing. The phisher is publishing the IP addresses that need to be blocked. So, again, at the enterprise level this kind of phishing would not be an issue.
If a phisher really needed to redirect traffic like that he'd have an easier time just getting the information in the local machine's DNS cache. That way it would never show up in the hosts file which means that it would be that much harder to spot. Then just keep updating the DNS cache.
So this is the wrong solution to the wrong problem and it is implemented in the wrong way. And it will probably cause more issues in the future as 3rd party developers have to work around not having the hosts file as a reliable option any more.
Nice way to remove a useful tool that's been around for decades.
Don't need to Win when you got Lin
The main problem I see is
That you didn't read the article and have no idea what you are talking about?
And it will still work, so what is the main problem you see again?
The option on one end is to allow the user to have full, unfettered access to everything on their system, from the highest levels down to the lowest. This was done back in the DOS and Win9x days, and although it does have a few benefits in certain niches, it's also very bad for security.
The option on the other end is to disallow access to modifying the underlying system and related settings, and only allow such actions from full administrator accounts, and maybe not even then (depending on the mindset of the development team). This pisses off a lot of the hardcore techies who like to modify everything they can, but to be fair it does help protect the average user.
Now, I'm not defending Microsoft on how they've implemented this silently and without notification to the user, but on the face of it I think it's a good idea for the average user, at least with regards to the Facebook part of it (not so much on the Doubleclick part). Think about it - the average non-techie person wants Facebook to work. They will want to get their notifications on the Start screen (and elsewhere).
I agree with other posters - they should have openly done this and notified the user before "fixing" it - something like "Your hosts file has been modified to prevent access to <site on this list>. Is this desirable to you?" with three options - "Yes", "No", "More information". That way, the techies can click "Yes" and go about their business, average users can click "More information" and maybe actually learn a little bit in the process, then come back and click "Yes" or "No" as per their wishes.
As with many things, the idea is sound, but the implementation is not. To those saying "well, malware wouldn't redirect to localhost, it'd redirect to a false Facebook", there's nothing stopping a piece of malware from being written that is similar to the existing rogue security software, but that also uses hosts to block access to various social media sites, in an attempt to give the uneducated user further reason to believe they're truly infected as bad as the rogue software tells them they are, and also as a weak attempt to prevent the user from going online and telling people about it even after the rogue software has been removed. They'll do anything to get a few more successful purchases of their crap software. I'm quite surprised they haven't really done this already, to be honest.
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For the average joe the web is all that matters. Its web + buying stuff they can either have sent to their house ( ebay, amazon ) or watch ( netflix, etc ) + social networking...
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Use a hardware firewall with content blocking or other features. I have all Facebook blocked in every manner. Sweet!
If all you're trying to do is block ad sites, and you're willing to do it on a system wide scale, use a firewall. Set a bunch of outbound rules to block certain address. It works, the settings will survive OS upgrades, and Windows 8 won't undo the settings on your behalf.
From the article, Two of the sites that you can’t block using the hosts file are facebook.com and ad.doubleclick.net
I started using the hosts file over a decade ago, when I traced crashes that I was having to doubleclick.net. Ad supported software that I was using was receiving files from them, but it was doing a lot more than just displaying the ads (which I would not have objected to). Many users were experiencing this, but the author would not fix it so I and others started blocking the site (which resolved the problem, although the author lost some small amount of revenue).
More recently I have also started blocking facebook. I never use it, have no account there, but I've noticed an awful lot of network traffic going to and from my site with facebook.com. I'm not even a member, so I don't feel the need for them to track most of the sites that I visit. The hosts file has so far worked very well for this.
And argument that this feature is in any way for the benefit of the clueless user is bogus. The common way to block a site via the hosts file is to equate it to the IP address 127.0.0.1, which is the local machine. If Microsoft were doing this for the benefit of their users then they would simply look at the hosts file and, if they found redirects for sites that they were concerned about that were not pointed to the local machine, they might well conclude that it was potentially an attempt to hijack a domain name and then, after warning the user (and even asking him) correct the problem. This would even show the user that Microsoft was doing something good for the user for a change. But if the address is redirected to the local machine, the only reasonable conclusion that I can see is that the user wanted it that way (as it provides no attack vector). It took me about 30 seconds to realize that changing 127.0.0.1 redirects was user unfriendly and could easily be avoided if Microsoft were really concerned about their users who paid for the software. They just have to look at the IP address that the hosts file contains and if it is 127.0.0.1 then allow it to stay! Clearly Microsoft realized this too. The only reasonable conclusion is that they are doing this because they have a motive that is against customers interests.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
...just rip off iptables and be done with it already... wtf is this "protecting the hosts file" bullshit (pointless if root/admin priveliges are required to modify it in the first place)? ...and haven't they yet realised that "windows defender" is an oxymoron?
Microsoft did this to purposely piss of APK, because even they could stand seeing his posts despite his praise for their products. They knew that using the host file was still a good idea and made sure there was a work around. They just wanted to make sure there were more hoops to jump through to make APK dance a little more.
The answer is simple enough:
If you're already smart enough to edit the hosts file, you should be smart enough to add hosts to Windows Defender exclusion list.
Is this a change from the way that things were done in the past? Of course it is. This is how systems become more secure for the average user. Average Joe isn't messing with hosts.
Chicken Little, the sky is not falling.
Advantages over "other things"? Two words:
Firewall entries.
More flexible, centrally maintained, more granular, more reliable, and not prone to user tampering. Yea, how horrible.
Still not a reason to switch to Ubuntu. Especially with the new tablet optimized desktop.
If someone is passing you on the right, you are an asshole for driving in the wrong lane.
I'm calmly throwing out any illusion I might have harbored regarding the 'ownership' of a Windows PC, and I now know that the licensing agreement TOS gives Microsoft that right to manage 'my' PC in any manner they see fit, at any time they decide it's in my (their) best interest.
File Access has been a shattered illusion since I came to understand that any user account to which assigned administrative privileges was still kept from accessing certain files for lack of sufficient 'privilege' regardless of what I attempted to do to circumvent Microsoft's control or that of their partners.
I have to admit I'm chagrined at the Orwellian title given to the program responsible for carrying out the will of the Master. It's hiding the obvious in plain sight to call it Windows Defender when what it defends is Microsoft's interests and not that of those who pay for the OS.
Back in the day, when you purchased a piece of hardware it was yours, now you're just rolling the dice to see how long someone else's PC will last while it's in your possession and you use it according to the desires of the true owner.
Caveat Emporer
You can use djb dnscache on all operating systems, even ones that don't support the hosts file, even with windows 8. dnscache reads from a database and uses O(1) lookup. Hosts file is O(N) lookup. My friend had a hosts file with 5 billion entries. It took over 5 minutes to lookup some hosts and he had to buy extra ram just to edit his hosts file. With dnscache, all lookups are 5 ms. It can be run locally but it can also be put on a separate machine. My friend moved his dnscache to his router to block his daughter from looking at black penises or his son from looking at gay black penises.
The hosts file has nothing to do, as a primary purpose, with filtering content. Go before DNS and find out what it was meant for and stop distributing garbage as information.
As is forcing people to use/memorize ip addresses
Which is not even an option for shared hosting setups - you can literally have thousands of websites sharing a single IP after all.
The reward was $1000, not $10,000
Here are a few words I want you to consider:
Defence
In
Depth.
What do you think that means?
It means that you have multiple layers of defence. Your PC should not be infected by another PC on your network or off, nor should it contribute to infection. Your router to that PC should not be infected by another PC on your network or off, nor should it contribute to infection. Similarly for your firewall and DMZ.
If you're not using HOSTS file why is the OS looking at the HOSTS file for ANYTHING???
Really. If you can't trust that file to be correct, then the OS shouldn't decide for you that it is correct.
If they were, then there would be no use of the hosts file by the OS to look up things.
Now if you set it, but the machine gets infected, the OS can be made, despite your lockdown, a change to that hosts file and screw up the scenario you thought you were protecting.
If this were about getting rid of the hosts file, why is the OS still looking at it and even changing it?
A hashtable lookup is O(1). a hosts file lookup is O(N). Do you understand what that means?
Looks like firewall blocking just became more popular ;-]
man you really are a sad cunt
On what planet does it make sense to change entries in a file on the system and not even warn the user that you are doing so? And since they are reportedly making the changes selectively, then if there were really an attacker his attack could have made other changes, but the user was never warned that the host file had anything "suspicious" in it and so would not be aware to even look at it and see if there was anything that the Great and Powerful Microsoft had missed. This isn't for the user, it is purely for MS's own interests.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
To not buy windows 8 and just stick with windows 7.
the Hosts file is targeted my malware to redirect to malicious sites and to keep under the radar to infect systems after they have been clean. (or even to a locally hosted proxy to infect sites like Facebook) Personally, I've seen facebook and myspace targeted in it. Never seen doubleclick but my guess is doubleclick is a target so that they can redirect to their own profit generating ads, or more malware to attempt to extort money out of people.
My guess is that the sites defender removes from hosts are sites that have been targeted by malware in the past. Frankly, I'd like to see the list of domains it looks for, but I'm sure that I woudn't want any of them redirected to some scumware site trying to pawn off fake antivirus.
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Well, need is subjective. But I like to play Doom 3 every so often (particularly with mods like The Dark Mod, a great Thief clone), and the hosts file is something of a necessity. For those who don't know, Doom 3 originally had old-school CD copy protection (i.e. need the disc in the drive when launching the game). The final patch removed that requirement, but changed it so that the game will attempt to authenticate the serial key against a master key server run by id/Activision. If the key fails (in use by someone else and/or a blacklisted key), the game won't run.
A few years ago I discovered the game thinks my legit serial key is in use/dodgy for some reason, which put me in a bit of a pickle. Fortunately, I discovered that if I put in a particular domain to redirect to 127.0.0.1 in my system hosts file (and this works for both Windows and Linux), the game won't be able to connect to the key server and will simply assume the key is OK and continue. I could have gotten a crack I suppose but I don't want to have to rely on cracks which may or may not have side-effects, plus I doubt one would exist for Linux anyway.
Side note: This is one thing I like about this authentication system in old games like this- if it can't verify your key/access, the game gives the player the benefit of the doubt and keeps working. Hence if the game is played when the Internet is down, or the key server disappears, the game will continue to work. Not like modern commercial games.
Most people on Slashdot are fucking idiots.
Solution was to dive into the registry and turn lots and lots of things off.
Sites that offer up AIO registry hack packs for windows should be more common.
I would totally pay for it. My time is worth enough that just getting a giant pack that has everything nicely labeled and organized would be worth a mint.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
I think what the other AC was trying to get at, is you write so much in response to people obviously just trying to waste your time, you are essentially giving them what they want. Such trolls don't care about being right or wrong, and will post something that is wrong if it furthers their goal of getting other people to make a big deal. In other words, they are just trying to make you to spend effort or time in response to what they say. Doesn't matter how much of what you say is true fact or not, just speaking so much in response makes them win.
It is not like there is much to gain. They can post such nonsense and yet you respond, so it is not like you would be providing any useful rebuttal when it is obviously nonsense in the first place. And there is plenty to lose... as others will just see it as messed up priorities, or a wall of text, or many other reasons to just discount you and ignore your posts. Doesn't matter how much you are right if you make people ignore you without reading what you say. Plus it helps people claim you are a troll, if they see responses to stupid stuff, which looks more like straw man tactics while other more serious threads stop quickly.
Don't bother wasting your time trying to help him... listen to your own advice and don't bother with trolls. He'll ignore any advice about how to better communicate his points, or insist that people have issue with his facts. He either is completely ignorant of how in the real world you can't have just substance, but need some tiny bit of style to get your message out, or is a well practice troll. I don't want to believe there is someone so ignorant and oblivious to allow the former to be the case. He has a trolling scheme that works quite well, and sticks to it. If he was serious about his message, he would learn and improve, but as a troll, he won't change, as he's achieved near perfection.
How could he be a troll? If he were a troll, he would be doing an even worse job at whatever it is he is trying to do. If he were trolling, he puts way too much time into writing and makes it too easy to gloss over his stuff. The people trolled or reaction to effort spent trolling ratio would be abysmal. It would be like spending a thousand dollars on a ploy to make someone else take ten dollars in damage. You refuse to believe someone could be that bad at getting a message out, I refuse to believe someone can be that bad at trolling.
If one redirect a site to 127.0.0.1 from the aforementionned double click, chance that it is a malware is nil. Before removing the entry windows defender should check the IP and leave it for those site at 127.0.0.1. OTOH if it is an anti virus site it should remove it if it is precisely 127.0.0.1. If they went the extra way to check for some specific web site, then they should have done the extra way and check for the IP. Or make a pop up windows warning of the behavior and how to stop it.
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He'll get people like you hook, line, and sinker. Break from the trolling norm enough, and people won't be able to write you off as as a troll instantly. Why else would he be constantly complaining about trolls attacking him, yet he feeds them like well maintained pets? If he really wanted trolls to stop stalking him and bothering him, he wouldn't make it so easy for other trolls to respond. Instead he's doing a great job of breading a massive shitstorm of posts by encouraging others to troll with him.
Instead of bitching and moaning... what are my alternatives to editing the hosts file?
As a web programmer, I edit that file once or twice a week. Not to block anything, just to bypass DNS for debugging.
Setting up my own private DNS is a juge headache, and making changes/propogating them is a hastle. Editing a hosts file takes two seconds.
What should I ise after upgrading to win 8?
The "Airgap" meme is still around? Surprises me as it is basically a direct lie. Best implementation I saw was a wireless link combined with a firewall, i.e. reasl, physical and completely meaningless air-gap.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
Actually, the consistency didn't really matter to me. No need to find a dozen links or explain why you were in a hurry. A simple "Slashdot formatting ate my line break" or a "I left off a closing tag" was all that was needed.
Nice snarky post, pity you couldn't be bothered to back any of it up with even a single example.
Talk is cheap punk.
You offer nothing but noise to this discussion.
I wish I had your free time. If I spent it arguing with idiots and trolls on the web though, I would just shoot myself though.
Considering that the only time that software ever deliberately damaged my system (and actually managed to damage my firmware) it was from update.microsoft.com, I wouldn't be so fast to assume that if you frond that URL blocked, that it wasn't intentional on the part of the user..
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
If they don't believe "It was a typo," they are not going to believe you no matter how many citations and past posts you link to. Others, on the other hand might use it is as fuel to attack you. Most probably will just not bother reading a wall of text when a simply reply might do, in which case it would have been better off to just ignore the post you were replying to.
A lot of cracks rely on changing the host file to prevent activation / phone home. Maybe this has something to do with Microsoft's decision.
Piracy. Using the hosts file to block calls from installers out to verification servers is pretty common. This would effectively end that method for circumvention.
There is no way to tell Windows Defender not to mess with the hosts file and adding it to the ignore/exclusion list won't work because that only affects scanning for malware which is a different feature. The only thing you can do is disable Windows Defender entirely (or for now, block SYSTEM from writing/modifying the file but that won't work for long).
Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.
Alexander Peter Kowalski will now prove the above statements to be absolutely and irrefutably correct.
Hosts file is not for blocking contents, hosts file is for overriding DNS entries. Or more correct, a file where you look for a host to ip translation before you consult your DNS. The file can point a host name to the wrong IP, effectivily blocking access to that host (site), but that is not what this file is for. Missuse and missunderstandings. But please ./ check your facts.
this is some funny shit... apk is a douche, but its funny getting him wound up (hey at least he seems to despise metro; that's the first ounce i've ever read from him since... well... ever)
is that you bill o'rielly?
you wrote the book on how to be a homo
The HOSTS file is not for blocking things; it is for optionally providing an alternative way of looking up some local names besides using DNS, in an enterprise network with what is today called a local intranet. It has fallen into disuse, mostly exists for legacy reasons; maintaining HOSTS files across machines in a network is inefficient; maintaining a local DNS service is normally the more appropriate strategy, and blacklisting can be implemented on the Enterprise's DNS service.
A perfectly appropriate firewalling mechanism exists in Windows called Windows Firewall with Advanced Security; which allows you to set an outbound firewall rule to block opening all connections to a specified server. This is safer than HOSTS file, because it simply blocks the address, without tampering DNS lookup results, and enabling a site to be repointed to a phishing site..
HOSTS file is commonly abused or misused for nefarious purposes; its use for any purpose is strongly discouraged, and has been unsupported for a long time. It would be no surprise to see the DNS resolver of a future version of Windows drop HOSTS file functionality entirely, and move towards Group policy configuration, or Administrator registry configuration for any 'manual local names'.
HOSTS file use as a mechanism for blocking or 'firewalling' things is also unsupported. The HOSTS file is not a firewall, and the HOSTS it not a DNS access control mechanism. It's still perfectly legitimate for a DNS resolver to attempt lookup via the DNS as a failover strategy, if the entry in the HOSTS file seems bad or non-responsive. Browsers may do this; browsers may even bypass the HOSTS file entirely, because it is commonly abused by malware.
Malware and Adware commonly mess with this file to hijack users' browser by creating false host entries for common websites to point them to malware author-controlled domains.
Disabling the ability to silently do this on consumer-targeted OSes improves security. This security feature/change is appropriate for end-user systems that are not part of a large enterprise intranet with unusual requirements necessitating local resolver entries.
If the site is intended to be blocked or "legitimately" hijacked/misdirected; enterprises have more appropriate, more scalable means of implementing this; such as DNS server based blacklisting, and configurations on edge firewalls.
all known crack /keygen/patch for adobe software relies on HOSTS file
CS4 Serial number gets invalid serial number message when ... : kb407408
Error "You entered an invalid serial number..." when you ... : kb401677
"Licensing for this product has stopped working" on Windows : kb405970
"Licensing for this product has stopped working" on Mac OS : cpsid_51260
creativesuite 4 /5
http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/error-licensing-product-expired-cs4.html
So that's centrally maintained for you? Sync only at login? And over the day, any changes have to wait till the next login?
This is worse than kindergarten IT. You're nothing but a quack.
how original
i'm sorry i couldn't understand you with your mom's cock in your mouth
2.) Eats CPU cycles, RAM, & other forms of I/O
Hosts file doesnt have to be loaded into RAM? Rejecting packets outright is more CPU intensive than trying to route to 0.0.0.0, having to do a route lookup, failing, and discarding the session? Hosts file doesnt incur I/O penalty?
Dude, you are so far out there on this one, Im not sure you understand how quick your average firewall can drop a session compared to relying on a crappy HOSTS file redirect to 0.0.0.0.
Hell, look up rootkit.com, & see their article on "Windows Firewall" Vista onwards being EASIER to "unhook".
When I spoke of a "centrally managed firewall", that is most emphatically not the Windows Firewall. Cisco, Sonicwall, pfSense, ipTables, take your pick, all of them are zillions of times better than Hosts:
1) faster
2) easier to maintain
3) has built in logging
4) user cant bypass or tamper, even with escalation exploit
5) less prone to breakage
6) can filter by protocol, hostname, and port, not just IP
But you know what? Keep pushing hosts files as a viable business solution, Im sure youll get lots of business doing so.
"GNU/Linux is just Stallman's attempt to take the lion's share of credit"
Bullshit, kid.
One example of the problem of using Linux to mean GNU/Linux is Android. How many people whine about how Android and Google are stuffing things up by maing "Linux" closed source? This is because Android isn't Linux, it's Dalvik/Linux.
As to your Ubuntu, it is the OS.
PS have a look at the size of the "small toolchain" that is GNU software, not the Linux Kernel. Wattawankeryouare.
Doubleclick is Google. This is probably just Microsoft trying to brown-nose its way with them...
Oh my Dearest Peter, so many post of yours in such a short time ? I think I'm going to enter the game very soon Peter
Love,
Your Precious
Another reason I went to Linux only.
I certainly don't want it redirected to some other unknown IP address!
There's no place like 127.0.0.1. It's hardly an unknown IP address
Nae king! Nae laird! Nae yurrupiean pressedent! We willna be fooled again!
He stated Big O and that's correct. Your point was what?
"Please explain O(1)"
"Umm, Big O?"
"..."
"What? He said it! So it's correct!"
Nice moron logic.
After it burned my $250 video card up while I was beta testing I will not be buying this product. I will be sticking with my Window 7/Ubuntu machine for quite some time.
"suoicerP ruoY ,evoL reteP noos yrev emag eht retne ot gniog m'I kniht I ? emit trohs a hcus ni sruoy fo tsop ynam os ,reteP tseraeD ym hO" - by Anonymous Coward ANOTHER "ne'er-do-well" /. OFF-TOPIC TROLL on Monday August 20, @06:47AM (#41052599)
"???"
Uhm... Could we get a translation of that off-topic "troll-speak/trolllanguage" of yours, please?
---
* And, you're an off-topic troll - no questions asked...SEE MY SUBJECT LINE ABOVE!
APK
P.S.=> Yes, it must have just have been another off-topic done nothing of significance with his life troll spewing his off-topic b.s. again & not contributing to the ongoing conversations. Oh well - No biggie!
("ReVeRsE-PsYcHoLoGy", for trolls - Courtesy of this code by "yours truly" in less than 1 second flat):
---
#TrollTalkComReversePsychologyKiller.py (Ver #2 by APK)
def reverse(s):
try:
trollstring = ""
for apksays in s:
trollstring = apksays + trollstring
except:
print("error/abend in reverse function")
return trollstring
s = ""
print reverse(s)
try:
s = "Insert whatever 'trollspeak/trolllanguage' gibberish occurs here..."
s = reverse(s)
print(s)
except Exception as e:
print(e)
---
... apk
What's your point using Big O then in this case? Do you know what it means and how it supposedly applies to his work? I don't think you even know. Explain it please.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by asserting that one needs a PhD to state perfectly obvious facts about him.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by suggesting a definition of "libel" that does not apply in the real world.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by suggesting a definition of "ad hominem" that does not apply in the real world.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi is unemployed and unemployable.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi is obsessed with gaining the approval of strangers, but will never manage to do so.
Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi has proven the two previous statements to be correct, as I said he would.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi will continue to prove them correct, along with all the others just added.
"htuom ruoy ni kcoc s'mom ruoy htiw uoy dnatsrednu t'ndluoc i yrros m'i" - by "CrutcHy" (lol) the Clown, (1949900) ANOTHER "ne'er-do-well" /. OFF-TOPIC TROLL on Monday August 20, @05:02AM (#41052143)
"???"
Uhm... Could we get a translation of that off-topic "troll-speak/trolllanguage" of yours, please?
---
* And, you're an off-topic troll - no questions asked...SEE MY SUBJECT LINE ABOVE!
APK
P.S.=> Yes, it's "CruTcHy" (lol), another off-topic done nothing of significance with his life troll spewing his off-topic b.s. again & not contributing to the ongoing conversations. Oh well - No biggie!
("ReVeRsE-PsYcHoLoGy", for trolls - Courtesy of this code by "yours truly" in less than 1 second flat):
---
#TrollTalkComReversePsychologyKiller.py (Ver #2 by APK)
def reverse(s):
try:
trollstring = ""
for apksays in s:
trollstring = apksays + trollstring
except:
print("error/abend in reverse function")
return trollstring
s = ""
print reverse(s)
try:
s = "Insert whatever 'trollspeak/trolllanguage' gibberish occurs here..."
s = reverse(s)
print(s)
except Exception as e:
print(e)
---
... apk
A good application of code vs. off-topic trolls like "CruTcHy the Clown", lol...
* And, there ya are, troll...
(QUESTION - can you EVER get on topic? For once??)
APK
P.S.=> Additionally + Lastly: Like ALL my code? It works well... apk
I didn't write that, but... sounds like you read that though & were a good study of it, practicing its points by "stalking me" here... lol!
* Hey - I don't judge in THAT area: If that's "how you roll"? LOL, none of my business, & "to each his own"...
However: Your "StaLkiNg" me here? I think you might be breaking laws... watch yourself, control your "StRaNgE UrGes", lol!
(Practice "safe-sex" is all I can say in your case, projecting as you are... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> To all trolls, my usual reply on these types of off-topic trolls is "NEXT" (lmao, they never stop)...
... apk
See subject-line above: metrix007 blew it right away by NOT "RTFA" missing the fix that works in MsSecurity Essentials/Windows Defender -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263
He is, after all, the "GP" referred to in the quote you used...
* So, in the end? Well... "Sorry to disappoint you" & blow your "game" like I did, but it's just truth... my usual effective tactic vs. ac trolls like you!
(I.E.-> LOL, trust me - Metrix007 isn't me... lol, in fact, he has blown it 9 times now vs. myself evading the challenge you ALL are in the past (I posted a previous 1 of 8 of them in fact -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1888084&cid=34459018 ))
The 5 ac trolls who've tried to disprove my points on hosts file benefits to users, so far?
"Insta-FAILS" vs. facts I used in response, lol!
APK
P.S.=> The word of the day? TROY... as in DESTROY all trolls -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299
Simply by PROVING they cannot disprove my points on hosts files benefits to end users of:
---
1.) Blocking out malware/malscripted sites
2.) Blocking out Known sites-servers/hosts-domains that are known to serve up malware
3.) Blocking out Bogus DNS servers malware makers use
4.) Blocking out Botnet C&C servers
5.) Blocking out Bogus adbanners that are full of malicious script content
6.) Getting you back speed/bandwidth you paid for by blocking out adbanners + hardcoding in your favorite sites (faster than remote DNS server resolution)
7.) Added reliability (vs. downed or misdirect/poisoned DNS servers).
8.) Added "anonymity" (to an extent, vs. DNS request logs)
9.) The ability to bypass DNSBL's (DNS block lists you may not agree with).
10.) More screen "real estate" (since no more adbanners appear onscreen eating up CPU, Memory, & other forms of I/O + electricity too - bonus!)
11.) Truly UNIVERSAL PROTECTION (since any OS, even on smartphones, usually has a BSD drived IP stack).
12.) Faster & MORE EFFICIENT operation vs. browser plugins (which "layer on" ontop of Ring 3/RPL 3/usermode browsers - whereas the hosts file operates @ the Ring 0/RPL 0/Kernelmode of operation (far faster) as a filter for the IP stack itself...)
13.) Blocking out TRACKERS
14.) Custom hosts files work on ANY & ALL webbound apps (browser plugins do not).
15.) Custom hosts files offer a better, faster, more efficient way, & safer way to surf the web & are COMPLETELY controlled by the end-user of them.
---
For better speed/bandwidth they pay for, better "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" vs. malicious exploits online of varying kinds, better reliability vs. DNS-poisoned DNS servers, better anonymity to an extent vs. DNS Request logs, more - shown above...
... apk
It's not a demise of the hosts file - metrix missed the fix:
PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:
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"It's not a "demise" by the by - MS Sec Essentials is the KEY "workaround"" - by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 19, @04:45PM (#41048263)
FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048263
Myself replying to him... metrix007's blown the challenge I put to you all here as well, 9 times including today here, lol... example from the past I posted (just 1 of 8):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1888084&cid=34459018
I.E.-> Where metrix007 RAN from disproving my points in favor of hosts files for end users gain in security, speed/bandwidth, efficiency, reliability, & even anonymity to some extent (vs. DNSBL's) & more in the past like he has here today, yet again, lol!
"Gosh - just like he has here", same story, evasions & ac trolling afterwards, after he has "egg on his face", again!
---
Seems NONE of you can face this challenge & disprove my points on hosts files in fact:
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41049299
LMAO, I love it... thanks for making ME, look GOOD, & yourselves as ac trolls? Well - "not so good"!
---
* You, like metrix007, need to "RTFA"... lol!
APK
P.S.=> Ac trolls - they never stop, & never FAIL to FAIL, lol... they are a devoted fanclub of mine though, lol!
... apk
This response is being posted because you clearly didn't understand the last two comments, and I want you to waste more time putting together a long-ass response that has nothing to do with anything whatsoever.
Incidentally, I was running an anti-malware tool on my PC and it found I had something called apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe installed which is apparently dangerous malware according to a ton of websites. Someone with your PC experience might know: can you tell me how to remove it?
I was hoping this would contain advice, but I couldn't find anything.
I'm using MSSE 4.0.1526.0 with definition 1.31.2371.0. Just added 127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net to my host file and got a popup saying that it was cleaning my system. Here's the link to the issue its having..
http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Threat/Encyclopedia/Entry.aspx?name=SettingsModifier%3aWin32%2fPossibleHostsFileHijack&threatid=14994
The problem is that MSSE/Windows Defender hasn't been made smart enough to know what 127.0.0.1 should be an allowable entry and isn't a hijack. Rather than actually tell MS about it, people instantly thought it was a conspiracy.
I see this HOSTS debacle as a response to sites and downloads claiming to provide "clean" hosts files, they ask users to "download their .zip, run their program and find a miracle cure to unwanted tracking." Which is a great setup for those wanting to redirect DNS entries to phishing sites. -- not a secure solution.
This also takes aim at any potential browser addon's that attempt to mod the HOSTS file.
Don't like it, then you're not an average user. Add the hosts file to the windows defender exceptions list as the article points out.
Anyone modding their hosts file isn't just a typical user, adding an exception shouldn't be a chore.
The point isn't that Microsoft is giving a free pass to Facebook or an ad tracking site, at issue is that Advertisers, Trackers and their ilk have been ahead of laws, regulations even internet taskforce groups and have creating privacy and security issues since AOL bought the NSF servers.
different DNS client service. problem solved. You freetards can probably figure out how to run any of your favorite DNS clients in the background as a service.
Also, I recommend MyCleanPC rather than maintaining a custom hosts file. This is what I use on my GameMaker box, and I never have any issues.
Also, this "workaround" is no more cumbersome than many of the hoops you have to just through just to get simple shit to work on Linux.
By updating the hosts file from a PRISTINE fresh import (from a CENTRAL location on a LAN/WAN too, via these methosd) of blocking data vs. malware & malicious content, botnet C&C servers, bogus DNS servers, phishing/spamming sources, trackers, adbanners & more, as often as you like:
http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74
There's other methods also, via native to OS tools for network-wide propogation of fresh clean updated hosts files that program yields IF you only installed it on a "central server" for clean hosts for all nodes/workstations/servers:
I.E.-> Centrally managed hosts files? Easy as pie via logons scripts, or parse of autoexec in Windows @ bootup via GPEdit & group policies company-wide!
OR
Using taskscheduler on each workstation/server node periodically
APK
P.S.=> There you go... it all works, GUI easily from my app, all the way out to any endpoint PC/Server on a LAN/WAN even... often as you like & CLEAN/FRESH too! apk
It's Schrock, not "Schmuck". Calling him "Thor Schmuck" makes you look like a 45 year old virgin still living in his mother's bas.... never mind.
Can you explain what "ad hominem" means?
You fail at explaining O(1) and fail to detect an ad hominem.
So please, can you explain what you think ad hominem means?
2727 entries processed per second (1.8 million in 11 minutes), on a quad 2.67 ghz processor means you're spending around 4 million processor cycles per entry.
Holy sub-optimal algorithm, Batman!
I'm still waiting for an answer from the great IT quack.
If you have to post as one of your own sidekick supporters and try to turn the question into a counter-question, you just show your lack of the answer, APK.
Because you really don't know what O(1) means, do you?
You are one sad fuck.
http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74
Using it on networks? Cake!
---
A.) Install & run it
B.) Do updating the hosts file from a PRISTINE fresh import (to a CENTRAL location on a LAN/WAN too, via these methods) of blocking data vs. malware & malicious content, botnet C&C servers, bogus DNS servers, phishing/spamming sources, trackers, adbanners & more, as often as you like:
C.) Then, lastly - On said network via native to OS tools for network-wide propogation of fresh clean updated hosts files that program yields IF you only installed it on a "central server" for clean hosts for all nodes/workstations/servers:
I.E.-> Centrally managed hosts files? Easy as pie via logons scripts, or parse of autoexec in Windows @ bootup via GPEdit & group policies company-wide!
OR
Using taskscheduler on each workstation/server node periodically
OR of course, using this app on workstation/server endpoints locally as well as a possible.
(Take your pick!)
---
Below - I list a TON of DNS faults below, you know of them from it, and hosts actually COMPLIMENT & OVERCOME them
---
1.) Power usage on DNS software on same system OR especially separate machines
2.) Host-domain resolves being faster than calling out to remote DNS servers for hardcoded favorites (hdd or ssd access/seek is far faster locally too)
3.) No separate "layered on" added stuff over the IP stack IN Ring 0/RPL 0/kernelmode like firewalls or DNS programs do, since hosts are only a FILTER for the IP stack & good layered security/defense in depth!
4.) No separate "layered on" added stuff over the browser addons like AdBlock or even IE TPL's IN Ring 3/RPL 3/usermode like adblock, since hosts are only a FILTER for the IP stack & good layered security/defense in depth!
5.) Reliability vs. recursive DNS servers setups in faults driven by DNS poisoning attacks (hardcodes of hosts file records of your favorite sites do that).
---
( & more... FAR more, see below - it compliments & overcomes issues in firewalls, adblock, DNS servers + works with them, transparently/seamlessly/smoothly @ the MOST efficient layer possible - the IP stack itself!)
The speedup part hardcoding in favorites (which also aids reliability) is there too!
Simply by blocking out ad banners (which you KNOW have been infested more than a few times the past few years, partial list's below, & also CPU, RAM, & other forms of I/O killers as well as screen realestate stealers, etc. & more... see next list):
I.E.-> Custom hosts files gain me the following benefits (A short summary of where custom hosts files can be extremely useful):
---
1.) Blocking out malware/malscripted sites
2.) Blocking out Known sites-servers/hosts-domains that are known to serve up malware
3.) Blocking out Bogus DNS servers malware makers use
4.) Blocking out Botnet C&C servers
5.) Blocking out Bogus adbanners that are full of malicious script content
6.) Getting you back speed/bandwidth you paid for by blocking out adbanners + hardcoding in your favorite sites (faster than remote DNS server resolution)
7.) Added reliability (vs. downed or misdirect/poisoned DNS servers).
8.) Added "anonymity" (to an extent, vs. DNS request logs)
9.) The ability to bypass DNSBL's (DNS block lists you may not agree with).
10.) More screen "real estate" (since no more adbanners appear onscreen eating up CPU, Memory, & other forms of I/O + electricity too - bonus!)
11.) Truly UNIVERSAL PROTECTION (since any OS, even on smartphones, usually has a BSD drived IP stack).
12.) Faster & MORE
gotcha. you suck at python. so what ?
My advice didn't make what he'd already written any more accurate either. It was crap before I advised him to lay off the "Schmuck" nonsense, and given it can't be edited, it remains crap today.
You do realize I was making a joke about a horror urban legend originally, right?
The code looks something like:
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/bloodymary.asp
http://us.imdb.com/Details?0103919
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41059129
* Meet me there... where I can further tear your b.s. & you, in 1/2 some more!
(Don't show up there? You proved my point then, here!)
APK
P.S.=> I am going to take GREAT pleasure in trashing your "so-called points" as I did already, over there... show up, make your 'rebuttals', so I can destroy them too (and you with it, troll)... apk
This has apparently been known about a for while in some developer communities. The first result in a Bing search for "windows 8 hosts file" returns a MSDN post from Sept 2011 identifying the problem.
a niche of geeks who seem to think it somehow superior to firewall rules
An entry in a hosts file is a firewall rule. The advantage of a hosts file is that one doesn't need to install extra firewall software. And even if you do install external software, it can still use the widely understood input format of a hosts file.
or adblock lists
Adblock is fine for your web browser, but what can you use to block access from applications other than a web browser? You need a firewall, and one that operates at the DNS level is built into your operating system: the hosts file.
DEY
reimaging a dev laptop for a DNS change sounds like an enormously bad idea ("where did all my source code go?")
All you need to do is check it out again, you silly git.
I don't have a Facebook account; I graduated and lost my .edu address before Facebook even existed. And I don't want Facebook's like button code to slow page loads while building a dossier on me any more than it already has. Other than using a hosts file or installing a DNS server on localhost, what do you recommend for blocking web sites from loading the like button?
So what will people use as a media production appliance?
Only reason people are crying is they can't block their pirated version of Adobe from activating. That's all host files are used for now days.
use a firewall
Hosts is a DNS-level firewall already built into your operating system.
Set a bunch of outbound rules to block certain address
Which works until the hostname starts pointing at a different IP address. Round-robin DNS tends to do this. A hosts file, on the other hand, maps all requests associated with a given hostname to an invalid address. It acts in effect as a hostname-based outbound rule set.
DEY
"He" is not correct at all. Libel does not work that way.
GO FOR IT - I'll tear you in 1/2 easily...
lol! don't kid yourself, you're not 'tearing anyone in 1/2' you pimple-faced sissy bitch
He wasn't criticizing hosts files, idiot.
He was saying your code is garbage.
But you knew that, of course. You tried to change the subject because you know he's right.
This is why your code rightfully registers as malware, and why you still cannot get work.
wow.
you so clever.
did you invent the internet?
what gave you the idea for that?
Instead of replying to one single question, you post a wall of nonsense again - as an "unrelated" AC nonetheless.
Just kill yourself, Peter. You are just dumb.
My ability to criticize your code does not depend on what I have written, any more than I have to direct a movie to point out that Uwe Boll is a shitty director. You yourself stated the performance metrics that prove it is terrible. You are the Uwe Boll of software, except you can't even fall back on the ability to beat up your critics.
They're not untruthful. Alexander Peter Kowalski constantly proves those statements to be correct.
Furthermore, these statements cannot "defame" Alexander Peter Kowalski the fraud and malware author, because he was already known as such to begin with. The statements I make about him are merely succinct recaps of what everyone already who has contact with him already knows.
Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.
Alexander Peter Kowalski has continued to prove these statements correct, and will now do so again.
4 million clock cycles per line.
Wow. You know bubble-sort isn't a suitable alg for sorting... well... anything, yes?
Sorry I don't read at -1.
Of course it runs NetBSD. BTC: 1NT7QvbetmANwaMzhpVL6
Sure, get your forum users to join your AD first. Call me when you've succeeded. /facepalm
I can see why all of your posts end up at -1. Lunacy at its best.
Of course it runs NetBSD. BTC: 1NT7QvbetmANwaMzhpVL6
Actually I found it didn't work unless I had Netscape 4 installed. Which was weird.
Also while I already had this DLL installed, VBRUN300.DLL seems to be locked (in use) by the tool.
That comment wasn't a "random, flailing, insult-hurling rant."
It was quite directed, and to the point. It was also true.
This tirade of yours, on the other hand:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41051235
was random, flailing, and somewhat nonsensical.
I can only think the fact that you immediately jump in to any thread even remotely mentioning "APK" with huge, rambling tomes of crap spouting about how superior you are to virtually everyone in the entire history of computer technology, means that you are, in fact, deeply insecure, unsure of yourself, and require validation from others to improve your pitiful view of yourself, so use a massive, over the top superiority complex to attempt to do this.
I'm pretty sure a few counselling sessions would help you with that, unless, of course, you attempt to prove how much better you are than the counsellor, and they end up kicking you out for being....well....yourself.
And if counselling doesn't work, then there's always SIG.....
"City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
No, "he" did not.
Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi uses sockpuppets to try to create the illusion that other people believe his fraudulent claims, and does so without success.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi uses clumsy and inept implied threats to attempt to silence his critics.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi continues to prove the above statements correct, and will now do so again.
In any analogy where programmers are chefs, Alexander Peter Kowalski is the kid at McDonald's who gets fired for constantly letting the fries burn as he stares slackjawed at the female employees. Then he spends the next fifteen years bragging about the one halfway-decent batch he managed to avoid screwing up on his first day.
Does it matter building a hosts file?
Tell you what, if you want me to talk to you about HOSTS files, I'll do it. But I absolutely insist that you, first, tell me that my theories on the provability of p=np are either correct or incorrect, with examples.
Your alternative is to apologize to me for responding to a joke about an urban legend with a form comment that had nothing to do with the joke or anything the joke was addressing.
You really are the Todd Akin of Slashdot you know.
Repeating yourself will not make the counterpoint go away. Attacking the concept of criticism is only ever done because one knows that the criticism being leveled against them is completely valid.
You are not a "chef", you are an unemployable ex-fry-cook, and it doesn't take a "chef" to point that out.
Also, I am a "chef". And no, I don't have to produce what I've written, and yes, that IS what you were going to say.
Everything I said about you would be absolutely correct even if I was a janitor.
The topic of other subthreads may be about hosts, but this thread isn't. The head of the tree is here.
You'll see that that comment has nothing whatsoever to do with hosts. Therefore, no responds to it are on-topic or even relevent if they suggest or imply, in anyway, that the comment has anything to do with hosts.
It's a joke. About an urban legend.
So, I'm going to ignore you talking about hosts in this subthread, unless you post an equally irrelevent response challenging or agreeing with my theories on the provability of p=np. Which should be interesting, given I haven't posted any.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by attempting to redefine these statements of fact as an argument against hosts files.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by suggesting a definition of "ad hominem" that does not apply in the real world.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi is unemployed and unemployable.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi is obsessed with gaining the approval of strangers, but will never manage to do so.
Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi has proven all of these statements to be correct, as I said he would.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi will continue to prove them correct.
moron
and real programmers use iptables scripts, not hosts... moron
Alexander Peter Kowalksi has lied by suggesting a definition of "ad hominem" that does not apply in the real world.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi is unemployed and unemployable.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi is obsessed with gaining the approval of strangers, but will never manage to do so.
Alexander Peter Kowalski is a fraud and a malware author.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi's low intelligence and narcissistic personality disorder make him unqualified to perform anything but menial labor, and he does that poorly.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi has proven all of these statements to be correct, as I said he would.
Alexander Peter Kowalksi will continue to prove them correct.
You continue to repeat yourself in the hopes that the facts will change. They will not.
Your program takes, by your own admission, four million processor cycles to write a hostsfile entry.
That is horribly inefficient. There is absolutely no way to defend it as anything else. You know you cannot do it, which is why you try changing the subject and shrieking lies.
You will prove me right by doing exactly the same thing again.
Tell me, why is it that you feel the need to reply twice to virtually every single post directed at you? Do you go on frantic Google searches trying to find ammo for your hopeless arguments?
Ok....here's a response to one of your points:
You claim blocking sites via a hosts file results in speed. That was your first point in the parent post to this one.
Only one problem with that:
A large hosts file will actually slow down the PC, resulting in...well....not speed.
By the time you get all the ad servers, virus C&C servers, malware servers, drive by download servers, etc, all in there, it's going to be huge.
From http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm:
Editors Note: in most cases a large HOSTS file (over 135 kb) tends to slow down the machine.
"City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
laughing at your own jokes... good one apk
Awesome. Did you figure out why it requires Netscape 4? For the life of me I couldn't figure out that dependency.
Yes. OK, sit down, because you're going to be amazed by this.
It looks like the code invokes Netscape purely to download a bunch of lists of hosts files. Now, I know what you're saying, "Why not download them directly? And anyway, how much harder is it to interface with Netscape?"
Well, here's the joke. All it does is launch Netscape to load those pages. Then after a delay, it plows through the entire cache looking for the pages that were just loaded! It then pulls the host names out of that cache!
HTTP is EASY to implement. Why APK would do it this way is anyone's guess!
P.S.=> Additionally + Lastly: Like ALL my code? It works well... apk
wasn't any error here where it mattered
if you really were a programmer, you would know that it either compiles/interprets or it doesn't... there is no "where it matters"... tard
and what is the topic? do you (ever) even know? you like nothing more than crapping on about custom hosts and open sores and all sorts of other unintelligible garbage
yeah i know... i'm feeding the troll (smacks self)
i wish i could have seen your face when you read this http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41091833
pwnage
I always get the last laugh?
you laugh at your own jokes and you're a troll... duh!
P.S.=> Care to tell us what the "parse error" was, 'CruTcHy'? I doubt you even know, & the funniest part is, YOU caused it... lol!
i don't care what it was... python is an ass of a language, and if i had caused the parse error you would have shared it already just to rub it in my face (not that i would give a toss even if you did), so you're full of shit... i make mistakes when i'm programming, but i'm not a self-proclaimed god like you make yourself out to be
lol i so gotta stop feeding trolls
I don't think you're understanding the point here - _any_ algorithm that takes 10 minutes to filter a couple of MB of text on an i7 machine is horribly, horribly broken.
It just shouldn't take that long.
- convert all to lower case
- take out comments and malformed entries
- sort
- remove duplicates
- add 0.0.0.0
That shouldn't take more than a minute, even in an interpreted language like perl, and the output should be perfect from a single run, regardless of the state of the input files.
Whatever you're doing is horribly, horribly inefficient, and you still haven't explained why.
That's incredible. Actually, I'll give APK credit here, I would never have figured out the trick with Netscape in a million years. From my recollection, VB3 never really gave users access to sockets, and wasn't exactly fun to write extensions for in C++, so on the face of it this trick isn't as stupid as it looks. I'm surprised to find myself saying it, but I have to say based upon his use of Netscape 4 to download files for a VB3 program, APK is one smart cookie. My hat off to him.
if it took you 15 minutes to come up with that garbage you aren't really proclaiming yourself to be that great at programming
i have never programmed python before; my preferred langauges are delphi and php
anyway, i may have pasted the code with no indents in my slashdot comment, but i pasted it verbatim into the interpreter from your comment (with indentations)... so while it may run in your interpreter, as you posted it in your comment (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117) the for loop statement (on line 5) isn't indented... hence the parse error
error trapping is for runtime exceptions, not compile/interpret time parse errors
and if you want to reverse a string, here's a simpler example (not my code, but you being the expert you supposedly are surely could have come up with it yourself):
s = 'abc'
s = s[::-1]
print s
only took me about 30 seconds with agoogle search, no indenting required, and it works in the previously linked interpreter
had a squiz at your hosts file program... most of us just use notepad or gedit, but whatever floats your boat... and 37+ Mb of memory!!! did you disable debug info in compile options (or directives)? either that or you just use one of the newer bloatware versions... i guess i'm just lucky i still use delphi 7.
i develop mainly engineering software (flight test data analysis and structural code compliance, among others) for companies i've worked for using delphi and php... none public sorry
refer to my other comment for the parse error (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41117989), since you asked
What's up with your obsession with the phrase "ne'er-do-well"? This isn't Dickensian London, you know.
Hey, stupid? I knew that already
the comment you link oesn't show anything about the indentation bug or a simpler way to code your string reversal... you were (before i highlighted it) completely ignorant of it (rotflmao!!!!), what is this "not really coding" bullshit... nice backpedal tard.
you're an arrogant moron, and i caught you out on your code that you're so proud of.... hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S.=> Additionally + Lastly: Like ALL my code? It works well... apk
lol yeah unless it has a bug that you need someone else to find.... BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
apk... the self-proclaimed ruler of programming, that took a whole 15 minutes to write a pointless bit of jibberish just to reverse a string... caught out with a bug in his posted code... THAT HE COULDN'T FIND!!!!!! OMG HOW FOOLISH MUST HE FEEL NOW !!!!!!
P.S.=> "Onwards, & UPWARDS"... I RULE!
yeah... you rule your own vagina
i don't even use an IDE for my php apps... i use gedit, which is basically windows notepad except with syntax highlighting
the only ounce of sense i got from your entire comment was that data explains the memory usage... fair enough (i didn't realize there would be much need for large data stored in memory for something as simple as a hosts file generator... even if you're downloading from a http server or something, and if you have an open file handle for writing out you shouldn't need to store the entire hosts file content in memory)
maybe look at how you're storing the data... maybe use packed records. i can process gigabytes of flight test data without using much memory (data comes in, gets processed, and gets written out)
and why the hell would you need a 64-bit program to generate hosts files? sounds like a bit of a dick waving stunt to me.... not surprising for you
why would i even bother with the interpreter unless i suspected a bug.... FOOL!!!!
i found a bug in your posted code that you thought was perfect.... and YOU CAN'T STAND IT... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm happy now.... cheers fuckface
nobody but you gives a toss about a noob delphi program that creates a blacklist hosts file... even the form layout stinks of amateur
python relies on left indentation... you didn't indent the print statement in the for loop in your posted code... i don't care if it worked in your interpreter... the fact is YOUR POSTED CODE HAD A BUG, and you couldn't find it before I did HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! suck shit dickwad... i wouldn't know but i imagine it sux to be pwned like you are right now
you can bullshit all you like.... you're pwned on the python script in two ways (first the indentation bug, which i found first, and second the complexity of something that should have been so simple, which highlights how much of a noob you are)
hosts is useful, but no as much as a proper firewall like iptables, and a blacklist hosts will always be prone to any kind of zero day attack as much as anything else that relies on a blacklist
you're an amateur freetard who likes to blow smoke out his ass as one of the most infamous slashdot trolls
i found a bug in your posted code before you could and no amount of bitchslapping from you is going to change that fact... you're just going to have to live with it
Turning off the DNS cache doesn't eliminate the problem. It merely increases the size of the hosts file that can be used before the slowdown becomes noticeable.
Yes, it needs to be a huge hosts file, but it's still going to be a problem.
"City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
i found a bug in your posted code before you could and no amount of bitchslapping from you is going to change that fact.... you're just going to have to live with it
the code paste in http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41091833 was merely to point to the code that you posted... the code that was actually pasted into the interpreter was copied and pasted verbatim from your post, with indents
go back and have a look at the code you posted...
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117
the bug is there... on the fifth line
if i pasted the code without any indents at all, a parse error would have been thrown for line 2... it wouldn't have gotten as far as line 5
so, like i said, your code may have worked perfectly in your interpreter, but the code as posted IN YOUR COMMENT (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117) had the bug, so the bug was not mine
it wouldn't even be a big deal, except that you can't help but make it a big deal with things like...
P.S.=> Additionally + Lastly: Like ALL my code? It works well... apk
I also can't help it that YOU pasted it into an online interpreter that way (YOUR error)
i copied and pasted it VERBATIM from YOUR post... hence... YOUR ERROR
:)
you keep living in your delusion though... its all here on your permanent slashdot record for everyone to read
your posted code had a bug... hahahahahaha!!!!! sore loser... and it will be here forever for me to link to whenever you proclaim your code is awesome in the future
:)
line 5 of the code in http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117
python indentation bug!!!!! lmfao!!!
poor apk got pwned by someone who's never programmed python before, but obviously has more delphi experience because apk's delphi hosts app sucks balls
and wtf is the greatest hits... is that supposed to be some kind of proof that you're better than me or something? quite sad then for you that it doesn't... it just demonstrates how desperate you are for credibility and how much you need to market whatever skills you think you have because your work doesn't speak for itself (i've seen it, it sucks, so its obvious why you need to market it however deluded you are in thinking I would ever actually use it)
you are one sad, sad little man, and I eagerly await your bullshit reply
I guess that explains why it takes over ten minutes to process a few million hostnames!
i think you know you fucked up.... you commented twice... you must be pissed
so, for future reference, link to APK's buggy code can be found here... http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117
P.S.=> "Onwards, & UPWARDS"... I RULE!
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41108351
P.S.=> Care to tell us what the "parse error" was, 'CruTcHy'? I doubt you even know, & the funniest part is, YOU caused it... lol!
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41104873
P.S.=> You did a stupid thing when you sent it thru that code checker, & what makes me laugh MOST? You don't SEE it
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41103069
P.S.=> Additionally + Lastly: Like ALL my code? It works well... apk
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41055113
:)
if you post any more code on slashdot and then brag about how well he thinks it works, perhaps i'll remind you how fallable "his lordship" really is lol
you accuse me of causing a bug that you obviously couldn't see until i pointed it out...lol you thought i pasted it into an interpreter without any indents, without thinking about how i could possibly get an error on line 5 instead of line 2... typical arrogant noob mistake
cheers apk, and thankyou... you have provided me with plenty of entertainment this week
learn to read... twit
NAPK showed APK here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41098343
Why does APK keep dodging the question about his typing diploma? LOL it's because he doesn't have one! Hence he can't even spell "Schrock" properly. APK is just a "ne'er-do-well" who thinks he can run a business but doesn't even have the ability to spell words like a CEO ROFL
Actually, apparently, it works great on this 400Hz computer: http://idle.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1631698&cid=32039126
Yep. 400 Hertz.
It's because he's a vagabond and a scallywag!
Do YOU? No - YOU "blew it" on "Big O" & how long APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++ takes to run (~ 1 minute) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 , lol... there ARE options, you know!
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Additionally:
As far as my APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++ 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4 (as YOU erroneously said it is)?
LMAO - Well, as per your usual?
You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309
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(Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)
* So much for that b.s. from you too - YOU FAIL, ac troll, you fail... lol!
APK
P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:
I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eating your words" as shown in the links + statements above... (like the unjustifiable downmods you've been applying to my posts "hides" my replies that dust you with facts)... lol!
... apk
#1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).
It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!
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#2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?
Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).
(You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)
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#3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339
(Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).
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#4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?
LMAO - Well, as per your usual?
You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309
Additionally:
As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...
(Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)
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#5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...
So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!
APK
P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:
I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin
#1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).
It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!
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#2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?
Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).
(You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)
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#3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339
(Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).
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#4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?
LMAO - Well, as per your usual?
You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309
Additionally:
As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...
(Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)
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#5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...
So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!
APK
P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:
I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin
#1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).
It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!
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#2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?
Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).
(You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)
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#3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339
(Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).
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#4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?
LMAO - Well, as per your usual?
You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309
Additionally:
As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...
(Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)
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#5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...
So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!
APK
P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:
I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin
Problem fixed BEFORE metrix007's erroneous post-> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048583 (MS Security Essentials/Windows Defender): Metrix007 "blew it", badly... very badly, lol!
#1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).
It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!
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#2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?
Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).
(You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)
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#3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339
(Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).
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#4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?
LMAO - Well, as per your usual?
You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309
Additionally:
As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...
(Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)
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#5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...
So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!
APK
P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:
I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin
#1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).
It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!
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#2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?
Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).
(You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)
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#3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339
(Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).
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#4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?
LMAO - Well, as per your usual?
You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309
Additionally:
As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...
(Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)
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#5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...
So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!
APK
P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:
I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin
#1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).
It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!
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#2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?
Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).
(You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)
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#3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339
(Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).
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#4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?
LMAO - Well, as per your usual?
You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309
Additionally:
As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...
(Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)
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#5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...
So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!
APK
P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:
I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin
#1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).
It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!
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#2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?
Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).
(You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)
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#3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339
(Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).
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#4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?
LMAO - Well, as per your usual?
You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309
Additionally:
As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...
(Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)
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#5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...
So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!
APK
P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:
I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin
#1. - I created a program that helps security online http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 (as well as it helping speed/bandwidth, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent, vs. DNS request logs (and you can circumvent DNSBL's you may not like either too, bonus)).
It's a program that security sites that produce custom hosts file data host for me in fact ( http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html ) Whose administrators @ malwarebytes have VERIFIED as safe/good code!
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#2. - Why would I also create a security guide for Windows users then, showing others how to secure their systems vs. attack http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&qs=ns&form=QBLH if I were a malware author also?
Face facts: You've proven yourself wrong. I'm certainly no malware maker (since I did the above 2 bolded items & you ac troll morons attempted to insinuate that about my wares...).
(You fail as usual, ac troll... rotflmao!)
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#3. - As far as Thor Schmuck and the felons at CA? Long ago, I put them away easily -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41056339
(Once more disproving your ac troll b.s., since you morons tried to insinuate my wares are "malware" & the folks that host THIS very program? Verified it is not... and so did McAfree, Symantec, Arcabit/ArcaVir, Comodo, & others - whom I directly confronted on it, and I got them to "overturn" their "false positives"... which happens A LOT, & that link I just put up shows it happens to guys like Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (good coder, he & I have discussed this before) & even Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (with his tools being falsely accused of being malware AND getting misused by malware makers too)).
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#4. - As far as my "APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++" 32/64-bit program that creates perfect custom hosts files being VB3 + Netscape 4?
LMAO - Well, as per your usual?
You blew that too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41121309
Additionally:
As well as here also on how long it takes to operate -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41161717 which, of course, BLOWS away your "Big O" b.s. too, lol...
(Troll - you really ought not talk of things you have NO clue in. It does you in, each time!)
---
#5. - As far as MY having "real world experience", & from the Fortune 100/500? Been doing THAT, in MIS/IS/IT information systems, professionally, since 1994 - both as a network admin & as a programmer analyst, professionally...
So, "so much for that b.s." from you too!
APK
P.S.=> Ah, you'll do "your usual", mark my words:
I.E.-> Again/once more - You'll just downmod my posts that BLOW YOU AWAY every single time (since my posts point to the fallacies & FAILS you've done) lol - via your registered "luser" MULTIPLE account(s) here on /., & troll me by AC again, repeating your same b.s. I blow away WITH EASE, each time! Ah - no biggie, I love doing it & all you have? Is effete "downmods" in retaliation for your self-defeats & "eatin
"Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage." - Edsger Dijkstra
LOL Mr Smartypants APK doesn't even have a typing diploma and is in no position to tell whether someone else said what he thinks he said!
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Proof of the efficacious of CA
CA [ca.com] [ca.com]
PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com] [pestpatrol.com]
SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")
Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net] [freedom.net]
Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es] [spycheck.es]
Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")
CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up"! You can't even shut up as you don't have a typing diploma!
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Do you have a typing diploma APK? CAn you even spell the surnames of major, real, business people like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Thor Shrock, Larry Ellison, and Cherry Chevapravatdumrong? LOL you can't because you don't have one!
But I guess you've "Never been this far before" LOL -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1fX-FvKW8 [youtube.com]
-- NAPK
P.S => Visual BASIC 3? LOL! ROFL!
P.P.S => I see you still don't know what big O is!
P.P.P.S => FOUR MILLION CLOCKCYCLES per HOSTNAME?! ROFL!
Long ago & to decent acclaim -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41067891
I wrote it up (not built-in -> print "troll bs here"[::-1]) + fully err trapped http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41054945 : Where's yours? It isn't. You fail, ac troll, you fail since ANYONE CAN BE A CRITIC (it's quite another thing, to be a chef)! Besides, python is WEAK compared to C/C++ as I said before, it's NOT a favorite of mine, FAR from it, just one I got into to try it (the latter python was written in) & Delphi -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41061411
"Using the hosts file this way is legitimate, but a crutch" - by gweihir (88907) on Sunday August 19, @10:29PM (#41050333)
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41052117
APK
P.S.=> 'CruTcHy' is one of the more notorious & reprehensible forums trolls this place has - the "evidence thereof" is above, "nuff said" on that note... Plus, lol, "a picture says a 1,000 words" on 'CruTcHy' ->
... apk
My reaction would be much like Roy Hobbs' was per these quoted great moments from one of the great films of all time "The Natural" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5BEEpendWQ&feature=related (by Mr. Robert Redford - if you have seen it, you'll appreciate its analogous comparison here, & IF you haven't? Then, do - I can only say you're a "deprived child" if you haven't, it's truly a classic that applies here...)...
Albeit - in regards to myself vs. your trolling's HERE on /.'s forums instead!
Where:
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1.) The ac trolls
2.) metrix007/you
3,) LordLimecat
4.) cbiltcliffe
5.) 'CruTcHy' the troll
6.) couchslug
7.) & others
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FAILED vs. myself + my points on custom hosts files benefits to end users (in better speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to a degree), with these quotes from that GREAT film (1 of my favs of ALL TIME in fact)):
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"... He SHOT IT TO PIECES..." -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41048583
Sure did, just like Hobbs did in his debut... lol, except in THIS case, vs. metrix007, "right-off-the-bat", pun intended here since the film's about baseball (AND vs. the ac trolls on my program's code too -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41200577 PLUS http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41188819 )
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"way, Way, WAY back - way up into the rafters there. An UNBELIEVEABLE hit by Roy Hobbs. INCREDIBLE POWER! Good as I've seen all year." -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41188455
(Vs. BOTH LordLimecat & metrix007, & their UTTERLY HUGE MISTAKES, lol...)
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"Bottom of the 6th, Hobbs has been a 1 man 'wrecking crew' here today..." -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41201243
(vs. the ac troll & HIS NUMEROUS MISTAKES on my program... lol!)
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"I don't believe it - 4 in a row! What a day for Hobbs..." -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41129297
(vs. cbiltcliffe's FAIL on DNS clientside cache AND hosts files...)
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Custom hosts files? They're my "WonderBoy"... (see the film IF you haven't, so you can understand THAT reference - it's great... & it applies by analogy here by ALL means too, lol!)
* Well, METRIX007 - "How do you like THEM apples?"
(Since YOU of all people (lol) asked that, after your HUGE blunder, & those of others I noted above? There ya go... rotflmao! Thanks for making ME, look good, due to your utter blunders... & you trolls, by way of comparison? NOT SO GOOD!)
Plus - Your reaction & those of your fellow trolls AFTER THE ABOVE has been BLATANTLY OBVIOUS - 100's of "downmods" of my posts that pointed out YOUR FAILS!... To *try* to "hide" YOUR numerous failures vs. myself!
(Yes, total failure can do that to a person I suppose, you're all the 'evidence thereof' having seen you all/each stoop to such reprehensibly heinous machinations, that made me laugh bigtime large though... (and there's NO QUESTION, you of ALL trolls here? FAILED!)).
APK
P.S.=> LMAO - THIS? This was My FAVORITE ONE - where I certainly "CLEANED YOUR CLOCKS" trolls...
(ROTFLMAO - Just like how Roy Hobbs broke the field clock & scoreboard vs. the cubs - & judging BY your trollish technical mistakes?? You're STILL
Long list of "achievements" APK but missing several important things:
#1 Typing diploma APK?
* Where is your typing diploma APK? LOL! You don't have one!
You prove you don't by not being able to spell simple words like "Schrock". LOL or should I say KERBLAMO! [youtube.com] [youtube.com]
#2 Python skills
"Skilled" APK can't even cut and paste Python without failing to indent it properly. LOL! Python, the Object Oriented COBOL and APK doesn't understand indenting! LOL! Maybe Dijkstra was right when he said "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage." --> here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41137423 [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]
#3 Forgets to mention his crowning achievement: apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe
* LOL Malware APK?
The notorious apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe is so dangerous that respected virus authority spynomore.com describes it as "Threat risk: High Risk. Very dangerous malware. Can log user's keyboard activity and take snapshots of the user's screen. Uses stealth installation and removal is very difficult"
#4 Forgets to name major corporation he "owns" LOL
Why? Because APK doesn't own one! Unlike people like Bill Gates, Thor Schrock, and Mitt Romney APK has never owned a company that had hundreds of people reliant on him for employment.
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Proof of the efficacious of CA
CA [ca.com] [ca.com] [ca.com]
PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com] [pestpatrol.com] [pestpatrol.com]
SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] [spywaredb.com] [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")
Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net] [freedom.net] [freedom.net]
Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es] [spycheck.es] [spycheck.es]
Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] [spynomore.com] [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")
CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up".
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Real computer experts and users on APK:
Jeremy Reimer: "rather completely insane person who registered on ars a few years back, tried to spam his worthless do-nothing utility shareware junk, got roundly thrashed, and then started lashing out at anyone he could get his hands on"
Thor Schrock: "If I trusted every jerk who emailed me about why his spyware application is detected by our software I would go blue in the face."
"Kings Joker": "now i am lucky if i get 1 or 2 viruses a month. if you want my opinion if you stick to what APK says in his article about securing your computer then {...}| if you do get hit with viruses and spy ware then it will your own fault. "
Tom Hudson: "Thanks for the heads-up. How have I missed all this stupidity for so long"
Edsger Dijkstra: "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage."
Jay Little: "This individual is a menace to society a
Long list of "achievements" APK but missing several important things:
#1 Typing diploma APK?
* Where is your typing diploma APK? LOL! You don't have one!
You prove you don't by not being able to spell simple words like "Schrock". LOL or should I say KERBLAMO! [youtube.com]
#2 Python skills
"Skilled" APK can't even cut and paste Python without failing to indent it properly. LOL! Python, the Object Oriented COBOL and APK doesn't understand indenting! LOL! Maybe Dijkstra was right when he said "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage." --> here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3058625&cid=41137423 [slashdot.org]
#3 Forgets to mention his crowning achievement: apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe
* LOL Malware APK?
The notorious apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe is so dangerous that respected virus authority spynomore.com describes it as "Threat risk: High Risk. Very dangerous malware. Can log user's keyboard activity and take snapshots of the user's screen. Uses stealth installation and removal is very difficult"
#4 Forgets to name major corporation he "owns" LOL
Why? Because APK doesn't own one! Unlike people like Bill Gates, Thor Schrock, and Mitt Romney APK has never owned a company that had hundreds of people reliant on him for employment.
---
Proof of the efficacious of CA
CA [ca.com] [ca.com]
PestPatrol [pestpatrol.com] [pestpatrol.com]
SpywareDB [spywaredb.com] [spywaredb.com] ("Dangerous!")
Freedom Anti-Spyware [freedom.net] [freedom.net]
Spycheck (Spanish-language) - "Recomendacion: DESACTIVAR Y ELIMINAR" [spycheck.es] [spycheck.es]
Spyware No-More [spynomore.com] [spynomore.com] ("Threat risk: High risk", "Advice: Remove This is a very high risk threat and should be removed immediately as to prevent harm to your computer and / or to protect your privacy")
CA has actual programmers with actual experience working for commercial corporations. Do you have real world work experience Mr APK smartypants? LOL some of us "put up or shut up".
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Real computer experts and users on APK:
Jeremy Reimer: "rather completely insane person who registered on ars a few years back, tried to spam his worthless do-nothing utility shareware junk, got roundly thrashed, and then started lashing out at anyone he could get his hands on"
Thor Schrock: "If I trusted every jerk who emailed me about why his spyware application is detected by our software I would go blue in the face."
"Kings Joker": "now i am lucky if i get 1 or 2 viruses a month. if you want my opinion if you stick to what APK says in his article about securing your computer then {...}| if you do get hit with viruses and spy ware then it will your own fault. "
Tom Hudson: "Thanks for the heads-up. How have I missed all this stupidity for so long"
Edsger Dijkstra: "Learning BASIC causes permanent brain damage."
Jay Little: "This individual is a menace to society and has proven himself to be a drain on the productivity for the millions of IT workers worldwide that spend so much