I'm sure that they can add a branch of the tree into the logic where the bot says it know the call was being recorded. And sounds like a human when it says that.
Had Andrew been half its width further north, the eye would have crossed West Palm Beach.
I'm not sure how realistic it is to insist that we be able to predict the path of a 400 mile wide monster storm to within better than half it's diameter. We can't take measurements in most parts of it, and thus we can only really guess at the dynamics of it. Sure, better models help, but without data to feed those models, we're nearing the limits of what we can do for forecasting.
Even if we can nail down the path to less than half it's diameter a day out, that only leaves a day for evacuations, which has proven time and again to not be enough time.
My point is that 155 miles could mean the difference between some living and some dying...
As I pointed out to a poster above, that's about half the diameter of a hurricane.
+/- 155 miles is still hurricane. People need to stop thinking that a hurricane is like a tornado, and it's going to swing by and "narrowly miss them". About the only thing big enough for a hurricane to narrowly miss is a continent.
Remember the last hurricane that hit Florida? If you do, you will also remember the gridlock on the highways heading north. The problem was the hurricane was predicted to hit south Florida but it veered north, and rolled over all the people that evacuated or were trying to evacuate.
I just don't get the mentality of people. If you're going to evacuate, you have to understand you're evacuating a storm with hurricane force winds 200+ miles in diameter. If you're not double that distance away by the time it shows up, you're quite likely in the storm. Possibly in your car.
Florida is smaller than a hurricane. If a hurricane is coming to Florida and you're still in Florida, you're most likely going to ride out a hurricane.
The forecasting is still not accurate enough for you to safely evacuate and stay in Florida.
You're not familiar with hurricanes, are you? At it's widest, Florida is about 130 miles wide. Since you're seemingly unaware of how big hurricanes are, here's a (shitty) graphic for you. The deadliest part of the hurricane, the eye, is usually 20-40 miles in diameter. And yes, you do not want to go through the eye. But the rest of the hurricane isn't a fucking joke. Hurricane force winds generally extend 100 miles from the eye, and you'll note that a mid-range eye plus 100 miles is about the diameter of Florida.
If the eye of the hurricane looks like it's going to come near any part of Florida, it's not safe to "evacuate" to another part of Florida. Florida is smaller than a small hurricane, and tiny compared to a big one.
Hurricane forecasting is plenty good enough to stay safe right now. You just need to see the hurricane coming and get like 400 miles away from it. "Evacuating and staying in Florida" is like seeing a bull charging you from across a field and walking 10' to the left. Sure, if you're fast and you do it at the last minute, that might work. Your timing needs to be damn good, and you need to be able to do it quickly, but when a 50 other people are trying to do the same thing, you're likely fucked. A better choice is to just get the hell out of the field well in advance.
Yep. As long as neutral gas comes in and CO2 goes out, everything seems hunky dory until you get light headed, pass out, and die. And likely still seems great during that process.
Long time ago I hung out with an AWACS guy who had to drill on O2 deprivation, learning how to recognize it, how long his mental faculties held up, and practicing how to get the airplane set on a course to 10,000 ft before he passed out. Said it was the #1 choice of his when it was time to go.
Ticketmaster isn't a monopoly anywhere. You're telling me that every bar, dancehall, lounge, and club where you live uses Ticketmaster? Bullshit. Most of them are probably collecting $10 in cash at the door and stamping people's hands when they enter.
Does Ticketmaster try to monopolize large venues and very popular bands? Sure. But that's a fraction of the music in the world, and a tiny fraction of the venues.
Then don't see Pearl Jam. There are plenty of other artists in the world. In any little city over about 20k people I can almost guarantee that on a given weekend a bunch of people are playing music that you can go see.
I'm going to assume you're not a moron and try to explain.
The fundamental, most basic cornerstone of a democratic government is the right to vote. (Yes, I know we're technically a republic.) Everyone has a constitutional right to vote. When you put barriers in place, no matter how innocuous they may seem, you will inadvertently deny people their constitutional right to vote. You will deny them their ability to participate in self-government, which is the cornerstone of freedom.
Voter impersonation does not rise to the level of concern that we should be denying people their right to vote by placing barriers up that don't accomplish their stated goal. I live in Wisconsin, and here are some of the things that happened when we implemented voter ID:
When he presented his veterans administration card with his picture on it, he was told that the card was not listed as 'acceptable' proof of his identity. He responded: 'You mean veterans can't vote?'
That's why. Partisan. Fucking. Politics. Not because voter impersonation is an issue. Because some evil asshats decided that getting their people elected was more important than some people's constitutional rights and freedoms.
And for the record, I feel the same way about gerrymandering and denying felons the right to vote. None of these things are helping voters participate in democracy, and they're not solving any issues that are remotely of the scale that it would make it necessary to put these barriers in place.
It's shocking to me how undemocratic we've become (or we've always been, but it's really visible now) as a country, and I think it's well past time to undo all of this stupidity. And make federal voting day a national holiday with a mandatory half day off for everyone. If you really want to tackle voter impersonation, that's an easy way to do it. With a guaranteed half day off, there should be no reason people can't get to the polls. And the more people who vote, the less viable voter impersonation becomes. It's already a non-issue, but something like 90% voter participation would absolutely put a stake in it.
Oh yes, that shockwave propagating through a near vacuum exactly how? You do realize that other than E&M waves, waves need a medium to propagate through.
If you had said capsules slamming into the wall of air due to a rupture, you might have at least been somewhere in the realm of reality. Even then, however, I'm not sure how realistic that is. Air isn't going to propagate down the tube like a piston. Typical flow patterns in pipes are highest in the middle, dropping off towards zero next to the walls. While some of the capsule might experience a pretty good blast of air, it doesn't seem like something that can't be designed around.
Everyone thinks this is some dramatic pressure difference, but it's really not. Like the ISS, the pressure differential between the atmospheric pressure side and the low vacuum side is like 15PSI. Go down 50' in water and you have a substantially higher pressure differential.
We have a pretty firm grasp on fluid dynamics and aerodynamics at this point in time, and a lot of good modeling software. I'm pretty sure that if we can design submarines and spaceships, we can design a pod that can survive a tube rupture.
The problem with your analogy to fruitcake is that there's a spectrum between "slow smoked ham" and "processed pig meat in a can", and there's likewise a spectrum between "moist gingerbread with homemade dried fruit reconstituted with rum" and "dense, dry cake with nasty bitter candied fruit rinds in it".
My mom makes an absolutely unbelievable fruitcake. Unfortunately, the cultural perception of fruitcake is more akin to spam than a nice smoked ham.
So even if spam advertising is economically negative for them, they have no way to know that and they send it anyway.
This is one of two pillars of my "spam will never end" philosophy. The other, related issue, is that one person can be responsible for millions of pieces of spam. Even if it doesn't work, and even if the person responsible figures that out, it's entirely possible that someone else sees that spam and thinks "Hey, they wouldn't be doing it if it didn't work!"
And so it goes on and on. As long as a spammer has customers paying them to spam, they're going to spam. Whether or not the customers are repeat ones doesn't matter, as long as there's a steady supply of them.
Because online gaming is about shared culture. It's having the same experiences of lots of other people. It's no fun to play a game when there aren't enough other players, and you see the same ones over and over. It's not as much fun when you're the weirdo at school talking about a game nobody has ever heard of while they share conversation about the game they're all playing.
What the mega software corporations have is an advertising budget. And far too many people just buy whatever they're told to buy, and don't take it upon themselves to investigate other options. Or they are busy adults and assume that the kids that they're buying for want to play what everyone else plays. This leads to a giant pool of people playing the next AAA game, and not enough people playing the free ones.
Back in the day I was part of a pretty amazing FPS clan where we did tons of modding and map making. As people grew older and lives got more complicated, that largely faded away. A good part of the reason is that our free time got squeezed, and we wanted to play games in our free time, not spend that time working on the game instead.
Even though it's for entertainment, building and modding a game is still work. It's easy to pay someone to do that. It's much harder to get people to donate a lot of their time to that effort. Unlike most FOSS, games aren't needed for work. While working on a game will definitely scratch the itch of a small percentage of people, it's never going to reach the development scale of a AAA game. Combined with the lack of advertising, that puts a community built game at a serious disadvantage.
However, on the flip-side, they will all consistently fail in the same way if they have the same bug
You say this like it's a bad thing. Once that bug is discovered and fixed, it's fixed in all of the cars. Yes, everyone is going to OTA software updates, like it or not.
Unless it's a hardware issue, of course. I suspect that self-driving cars will get regular updates of "don't do this or you'll crash" warnings that nobody will read. Next model year will have that fixed, recalls might have to happen to update the hardware, etc. But we already do that shit for all of the other parts of the car, so there are systems in place to deal with systematic self-driving issues in a model of car.
Fixing a flaw in all of the cars at once is a huge step forward for safety. We can't even get most people to stop playing on their phones while driving.
I wasn't able to reliably kill that with uBlock, so I just stopped going to CNN. Apparently the number of people who put up with that shit dwarfs the number of us who don't.
I concur 100%. We've had playlists for decades now. That's how you know someone wants your shit to auto-play. If it's not in a playlist? It should not play until "play" is clicked.
This is not fucking rocket science.
I use uBlock to kill video players on websites that autoplay. In general, that means if a website auto-plays, I will likely never watch a video on their site again. I'm going to block them all, and I'm unlikely to be tempted to disable uBlock to see their shit.
Can you please explain how that Community Code of Conduct sanctions discrimination? I'm having a hard time linking "be considerate" and "don't dox people" with discrimination.
As it's gone way beyond setting "reasonable boundaries" and right into territory of trying to dictate someone's idea of what manners should be.
So setting baseline manners for a large-scale group project is a bad idea in your mind?
Personally, I'm more than happy for people like you and him to get angry, stomp your feet, and leave when you're asked to behave reasonably well in order to be part of a community. Makes the community a better place for the rest of us.
Go ahead, make a hostile, bitter community of your own, with blackjack and hookers.
....this technology has been crammed down our throats so quickly and so comprehensively....
Except that it wasn't quick, and it wasn't crammed down anyone's throat.
LEDs have been around since the 60s, and there are no known health issues stemming from being exposed to them.
I'm not sure what your issue is, but it's pretty severe. I'd recommend therapy. You're on the internet frothing at the mouth about LED lightbulbs, slinging insults, and making up a scary fantasy world filled with doom and gloom, where dangerous technology is forced upon you.
So to support your assertion that harm might happen some time in the distant future, you pointed to a study that didn't really support your assertion? My pointing that out is not a strawman. That's not how citing research works. You don't get to claim that something supports your assertion when it doesn't. Your claim was actually stronger without your failed appeal to authority.
If you are triggered to have to make up boogie men about how LEDs are bad as soon as you see the word, you've got some real issues.
Not only has the price gone down, they use an order of magnitude less power than incandescents. When I made the swap, it was somewhat mind-blowing that a typical hour of lighting at night went from like 600W to like 60W. When my mom visited and was worried about turning off all the lights when we went out for a couple of hours, I pointed out that at $0.12/kWh, leaving them on was going to cost us about one cent, maybe two.
What's even more awesome is that LEDs are coming in all shapes and sizes now. I've picked up frosted globes for the bathroom, fake filament or Edison style incandescents for the hall, appliance bulbs, and replacement 4' fluorescent tubes for the basement. And that's on top of "normal" bulbs, if there's even a reason to have them anymore. With the explosion of styles, brightness, and warmth/colors in LEDs, incandescent, fluorescent, and CFL bulbs are not long for this world. That's environmentally better, but amazingly, LEDs are generally a better, cheaper product as well for most applications.
LED flicker causing issues sounded like bullshit to me, so I figured I'd read the link you provided. The citation for LED stuff in there led here, and that's hilariously not the evidence you want it to be. From that "research":
Subjects. The authors served as subjects.
So yeah, a real, deep, double-blind, comprehensive study.
And what they found was that a flickering light might cause changes in an electroretinogram that are non-linear, and that suggest a low-pass filter in the retina. So flickering light effects their eyes in interesting ways. No sign of of harm was documented or discussed.
If that's the evidence against shitty LEDs, that makes them better than the natural light to work under.
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I'm sure that they can add a branch of the tree into the logic where the bot says it know the call was being recorded. And sounds like a human when it says that.
Thank you for supporting my point.
Had Andrew been half its width further north, the eye would have crossed West Palm Beach.
I'm not sure how realistic it is to insist that we be able to predict the path of a 400 mile wide monster storm to within better than half it's diameter. We can't take measurements in most parts of it, and thus we can only really guess at the dynamics of it. Sure, better models help, but without data to feed those models, we're nearing the limits of what we can do for forecasting.
Even if we can nail down the path to less than half it's diameter a day out, that only leaves a day for evacuations, which has proven time and again to not be enough time.
My point is that 155 miles could mean the difference between some living and some dying...
As I pointed out to a poster above, that's about half the diameter of a hurricane.
+/- 155 miles is still hurricane. People need to stop thinking that a hurricane is like a tornado, and it's going to swing by and "narrowly miss them". About the only thing big enough for a hurricane to narrowly miss is a continent.
Remember the last hurricane that hit Florida? If you do, you will also remember the gridlock on the highways heading north. The problem was the hurricane was predicted to hit south Florida but it veered north, and rolled over all the people that evacuated or were trying to evacuate.
I just don't get the mentality of people. If you're going to evacuate, you have to understand you're evacuating a storm with hurricane force winds 200+ miles in diameter. If you're not double that distance away by the time it shows up, you're quite likely in the storm. Possibly in your car.
Florida is smaller than a hurricane. If a hurricane is coming to Florida and you're still in Florida, you're most likely going to ride out a hurricane.
The forecasting is still not accurate enough for you to safely evacuate and stay in Florida.
You're not familiar with hurricanes, are you? At it's widest, Florida is about 130 miles wide. Since you're seemingly unaware of how big hurricanes are, here's a (shitty) graphic for you. The deadliest part of the hurricane, the eye, is usually 20-40 miles in diameter. And yes, you do not want to go through the eye. But the rest of the hurricane isn't a fucking joke. Hurricane force winds generally extend 100 miles from the eye, and you'll note that a mid-range eye plus 100 miles is about the diameter of Florida.
If the eye of the hurricane looks like it's going to come near any part of Florida, it's not safe to "evacuate" to another part of Florida. Florida is smaller than a small hurricane, and tiny compared to a big one.
Hurricane forecasting is plenty good enough to stay safe right now. You just need to see the hurricane coming and get like 400 miles away from it. "Evacuating and staying in Florida" is like seeing a bull charging you from across a field and walking 10' to the left. Sure, if you're fast and you do it at the last minute, that might work. Your timing needs to be damn good, and you need to be able to do it quickly, but when a 50 other people are trying to do the same thing, you're likely fucked. A better choice is to just get the hell out of the field well in advance.
Yep. As long as neutral gas comes in and CO2 goes out, everything seems hunky dory until you get light headed, pass out, and die. And likely still seems great during that process.
Long time ago I hung out with an AWACS guy who had to drill on O2 deprivation, learning how to recognize it, how long his mental faculties held up, and practicing how to get the airplane set on a course to 10,000 ft before he passed out. Said it was the #1 choice of his when it was time to go.
Did you just wake up from a decade long coma? Man, are you going to be surprised at how the world has changed......
Ticketmaster isn't a monopoly anywhere. You're telling me that every bar, dancehall, lounge, and club where you live uses Ticketmaster? Bullshit. Most of them are probably collecting $10 in cash at the door and stamping people's hands when they enter.
Does Ticketmaster try to monopolize large venues and very popular bands? Sure. But that's a fraction of the music in the world, and a tiny fraction of the venues.
Then don't see Pearl Jam. There are plenty of other artists in the world. In any little city over about 20k people I can almost guarantee that on a given weekend a bunch of people are playing music that you can go see.
I'm going to assume you're not a moron and try to explain.
The fundamental, most basic cornerstone of a democratic government is the right to vote. (Yes, I know we're technically a republic.) Everyone has a constitutional right to vote. When you put barriers in place, no matter how innocuous they may seem, you will inadvertently deny people their constitutional right to vote. You will deny them their ability to participate in self-government, which is the cornerstone of freedom.
Voter impersonation does not rise to the level of concern that we should be denying people their right to vote by placing barriers up that don't accomplish their stated goal. I live in Wisconsin, and here are some of the things that happened when we implemented voter ID:
90 Year Old Iwo Jima Vet denied the right to vote.
When he presented his veterans administration card with his picture on it, he was told that the card was not listed as 'acceptable' proof of his identity. He responded: 'You mean veterans can't vote?'
A birth certificate with a typo on it causes a man to not be given a photo ID so he can't vote.
People of all races, all walks of life turned away from the polls.
And for what? For what possible purpose did we implement a voter ID law in Wisconsin?
Attorney General Brad Schimel suggests Donald Trump won Wisconsin because of the state's voter ID law
That's why. Partisan. Fucking. Politics. Not because voter impersonation is an issue. Because some evil asshats decided that getting their people elected was more important than some people's constitutional rights and freedoms.
And for the record, I feel the same way about gerrymandering and denying felons the right to vote. None of these things are helping voters participate in democracy, and they're not solving any issues that are remotely of the scale that it would make it necessary to put these barriers in place.
It's shocking to me how undemocratic we've become (or we've always been, but it's really visible now) as a country, and I think it's well past time to undo all of this stupidity. And make federal voting day a national holiday with a mandatory half day off for everyone. If you really want to tackle voter impersonation, that's an easy way to do it. With a guaranteed half day off, there should be no reason people can't get to the polls. And the more people who vote, the less viable voter impersonation becomes. It's already a non-issue, but something like 90% voter participation would absolutely put a stake in it.
You do know that there are smaller venues/artists that aren't affiliated with Ticketmaster, right?
Never going to another concert is like never eating another apple because red delicious apples suck.
The shockwave from a tube rupture...
Oh yes, that shockwave propagating through a near vacuum exactly how? You do realize that other than E&M waves, waves need a medium to propagate through.
If you had said capsules slamming into the wall of air due to a rupture, you might have at least been somewhere in the realm of reality. Even then, however, I'm not sure how realistic that is. Air isn't going to propagate down the tube like a piston. Typical flow patterns in pipes are highest in the middle, dropping off towards zero next to the walls. While some of the capsule might experience a pretty good blast of air, it doesn't seem like something that can't be designed around.
Everyone thinks this is some dramatic pressure difference, but it's really not. Like the ISS, the pressure differential between the atmospheric pressure side and the low vacuum side is like 15PSI. Go down 50' in water and you have a substantially higher pressure differential.
We have a pretty firm grasp on fluid dynamics and aerodynamics at this point in time, and a lot of good modeling software. I'm pretty sure that if we can design submarines and spaceships, we can design a pod that can survive a tube rupture.
Yeah, there are definitely people in the world who are unclear about what studs are and why they are important.
The problem with your analogy to fruitcake is that there's a spectrum between "slow smoked ham" and "processed pig meat in a can", and there's likewise a spectrum between "moist gingerbread with homemade dried fruit reconstituted with rum" and "dense, dry cake with nasty bitter candied fruit rinds in it".
My mom makes an absolutely unbelievable fruitcake. Unfortunately, the cultural perception of fruitcake is more akin to spam than a nice smoked ham.
So even if spam advertising is economically negative for them, they have no way to know that and they send it anyway.
This is one of two pillars of my "spam will never end" philosophy. The other, related issue, is that one person can be responsible for millions of pieces of spam. Even if it doesn't work, and even if the person responsible figures that out, it's entirely possible that someone else sees that spam and thinks "Hey, they wouldn't be doing it if it didn't work!"
And so it goes on and on. As long as a spammer has customers paying them to spam, they're going to spam. Whether or not the customers are repeat ones doesn't matter, as long as there's a steady supply of them.
Because online gaming is about shared culture. It's having the same experiences of lots of other people. It's no fun to play a game when there aren't enough other players, and you see the same ones over and over. It's not as much fun when you're the weirdo at school talking about a game nobody has ever heard of while they share conversation about the game they're all playing.
What the mega software corporations have is an advertising budget. And far too many people just buy whatever they're told to buy, and don't take it upon themselves to investigate other options. Or they are busy adults and assume that the kids that they're buying for want to play what everyone else plays. This leads to a giant pool of people playing the next AAA game, and not enough people playing the free ones.
Back in the day I was part of a pretty amazing FPS clan where we did tons of modding and map making. As people grew older and lives got more complicated, that largely faded away. A good part of the reason is that our free time got squeezed, and we wanted to play games in our free time, not spend that time working on the game instead.
Even though it's for entertainment, building and modding a game is still work. It's easy to pay someone to do that. It's much harder to get people to donate a lot of their time to that effort. Unlike most FOSS, games aren't needed for work. While working on a game will definitely scratch the itch of a small percentage of people, it's never going to reach the development scale of a AAA game. Combined with the lack of advertising, that puts a community built game at a serious disadvantage.
However, on the flip-side, they will all consistently fail in the same way if they have the same bug
You say this like it's a bad thing. Once that bug is discovered and fixed, it's fixed in all of the cars. Yes, everyone is going to OTA software updates, like it or not.
Unless it's a hardware issue, of course. I suspect that self-driving cars will get regular updates of "don't do this or you'll crash" warnings that nobody will read. Next model year will have that fixed, recalls might have to happen to update the hardware, etc. But we already do that shit for all of the other parts of the car, so there are systems in place to deal with systematic self-driving issues in a model of car.
Fixing a flaw in all of the cars at once is a huge step forward for safety. We can't even get most people to stop playing on their phones while driving.
I wasn't able to reliably kill that with uBlock, so I just stopped going to CNN. Apparently the number of people who put up with that shit dwarfs the number of us who don't.
I concur 100%. We've had playlists for decades now. That's how you know someone wants your shit to auto-play. If it's not in a playlist? It should not play until "play" is clicked.
This is not fucking rocket science.
I use uBlock to kill video players on websites that autoplay. In general, that means if a website auto-plays, I will likely never watch a video on their site again. I'm going to block them all, and I'm unlikely to be tempted to disable uBlock to see their shit.
Can you please explain how that Community Code of Conduct sanctions discrimination? I'm having a hard time linking "be considerate" and "don't dox people" with discrimination.
As it's gone way beyond setting "reasonable boundaries" and right into territory of trying to dictate someone's idea
of what manners should be.
So setting baseline manners for a large-scale group project is a bad idea in your mind?
Personally, I'm more than happy for people like you and him to get angry, stomp your feet, and leave when you're asked to behave reasonably well in order to be part of a community. Makes the community a better place for the rest of us.
Go ahead, make a hostile, bitter community of your own, with blackjack and hookers.
....this technology has been crammed down our throats so quickly and so comprehensively....
Except that it wasn't quick, and it wasn't crammed down anyone's throat.
LEDs have been around since the 60s, and there are no known health issues stemming from being exposed to them.
I'm not sure what your issue is, but it's pretty severe. I'd recommend therapy. You're on the internet frothing at the mouth about LED lightbulbs, slinging insults, and making up a scary fantasy world filled with doom and gloom, where dangerous technology is forced upon you.
That's not reality.
Wait....your LEDs overheat? Sure that's not a bad LED? Mine are way cooler to the touch than any CFL ever has been.
I've had Phillips Hue bulbs in recessed light fixtures in my house for years now. They've never had an overheating issue.
So to support your assertion that harm might happen some time in the distant future, you pointed to a study that didn't really support your assertion? My pointing that out is not a strawman. That's not how citing research works. You don't get to claim that something supports your assertion when it doesn't. Your claim was actually stronger without your failed appeal to authority.
If you are triggered to have to make up boogie men about how LEDs are bad as soon as you see the word, you've got some real issues.
Not only has the price gone down, they use an order of magnitude less power than incandescents. When I made the swap, it was somewhat mind-blowing that a typical hour of lighting at night went from like 600W to like 60W. When my mom visited and was worried about turning off all the lights when we went out for a couple of hours, I pointed out that at $0.12/kWh, leaving them on was going to cost us about one cent, maybe two.
What's even more awesome is that LEDs are coming in all shapes and sizes now. I've picked up frosted globes for the bathroom, fake filament or Edison style incandescents for the hall, appliance bulbs, and replacement 4' fluorescent tubes for the basement. And that's on top of "normal" bulbs, if there's even a reason to have them anymore. With the explosion of styles, brightness, and warmth/colors in LEDs, incandescent, fluorescent, and CFL bulbs are not long for this world. That's environmentally better, but amazingly, LEDs are generally a better, cheaper product as well for most applications.
LED flicker causing issues sounded like bullshit to me, so I figured I'd read the link you provided. The citation for LED stuff in there led here, and that's hilariously not the evidence you want it to be. From that "research":
Subjects. The authors served as subjects.
So yeah, a real, deep, double-blind, comprehensive study.
And what they found was that a flickering light might cause changes in an electroretinogram that are non-linear, and that suggest a low-pass filter in the retina. So flickering light effects their eyes in interesting ways. No sign of of harm was documented or discussed.
If that's the evidence against shitty LEDs, that makes them better than the natural light to work under.