Well, it's round so I 'm not sure that it has a "visible side", but it still seems odd to put the bug ugly power cord at the same place as the USB and Thunderbolt plugs. Not to mention the power button. I know if I owned one, I'd have it rotated to make for easy access, which would have the power cord coming out and very visible.
In addition the 'not yet' Mac Pro has NO, i.e. nada, PCI, PCIe or any other high bandwidth high clock rate expansion ports !
Technically, each Thunderbolt port should be just as capable as a 4x PCIe. Presumably, Thunderbolt 2 can do a 8x since it uses both lanes, but this is speculation on my part.
The thing that I don't understand is the ports and power cord are all on the same side - along with the power button. That seems awkward.
All of your favorite tech companies probably capitulated. You are probably surfing Slashdot over a broadband connection from a major ISP that capitulated. Maybe even your phone company that gave up all of your phone call records. Corporations are just a big extension of government - the source of your trouble is the US Government, not Apple or Verizon.
Thing is, I agree with you. But people (your "victims") actually seek this shit out. People actually watch these horrible news programs because they want their own beliefs echoed back to them. You get far more neutral journalism from Al Jazeera then from any major American news network, and that's just sad - but they know how to pander to the "victim".
I mean, it's no accident that the very funny Jon Stewart gets all this free material handed to him every single day. It's a byproduct of the different groups the major networks pander to... it's a never-ending stream of bullshit, and we reward them.
I just listened to this podcast about the "Free State" movement, and I was a bit surprised to hear that the two Free State legislators ran not on Libertarian tickets, but Democrat and Republican tickets. They said they did this because that way they get an "automatic" 30% of the vote. Amazing.
While I agree with you, it still is fun in a dark way to watch them respond. It is also fun to see it get covered in the media. It's also a damn sight cheaper way to get the President's attention than renting buses for protests or hiring a lobbyist.
Also so what if we reduce sentences all the time? Does that make it right there too?
Sometimes you have to get pragmatic. Your choices in the bank robbery case might be: 1. Nail one guy to the wall and keep him in prison. He didn't cooperate, so the three accomplices go free. 2. Work a deal with one guy and put the three accomplices in jail.
So in one case you have a single bad guy in jail and in the other you have 3 in jail. Sure, you had to compromise your principles a bit, but you'd be foolish not to.
To extend the analogy, we want to encourage this kind of disclosure. If letting this guy slide encourages more whistle-blowers than I am all for it.
Rather scary isn't it? Realistically I suspect this recent revelation is just the tip of the iceberg.
Agreed. The funny thing is that two weeks ago a friend and I were working out cocktail napkin figures for how much storage space they would need for all of this. I felt a little bit like a conspiracy nut at the time, but now I feel vindicated:)
We don't actually know if he is right at this point
What in the world do you mean? Do you think it is fine that the government was secretly monitoring everyone's phone records?
In this case he may be "right" but he may also have broken the law which we'll need a trial to decide.
At this point, a trial is a formality. He claims he broke the law, and now the government is agreeing with him. The trial is to establish some facts for the record and sentencing. It also does not appear that the NSA broke any laws - everything seems to be on the up-and-up.
And THAT is the problem. Our system is now set up such that the government can monitor the details of every phone call made by every American, secretly and legally.
It is like saying that bank robber can go free because he punked out the other 3 guys involved even though he drove the get away car and shot at someone.
We reduce sentences for cooperation all the time.
He is one of the spies who was doing this to us....
While that is true, he was just a pawn, just a "soldier following orders". He did the right thing in the end, and not out of self-interest like analogous bank robber.
Anyway, I'm not aware of his impending extradition based on spying on Americans - they are trying to get him for doing the right thing.
Certainly he is not in a position to definitively say if any given intel classified as "top secret" is information that, if made public, will not harm the safety (and ultimately freedom) of US citizens or their allies.
That's a valid argument in Bradley Manning's case, where he disclosed so many documents that he couldn't possibly have even read them all. I don't see that here. He released two documents which he understood very well, and which were simply secret court orders giving broad surveillance authority to the government.
We don't know enough facts about his situation
I'm not sure what you are referring to - the government has confessed to collecting broad swaths of data about all of us. Broad, constant surveillance at this scale should have every single American completely horrified. It is indeed the foundation of a surveillance state.
This guy broke the law, there's no question about it. Sometimes the law is wrong. This is one of those cases.
No, I don't think that's the problem at this stage. The problem at this stage is that Wayland is not far enough along to use, network transparent or not. I don't think they are handwaving so much as saying they aren't really ready for that yet and they don't see why it will be a roadblock. I agree - I mean, RDP is proven and works at the application level (you can do it on Windows right now if you want). There are open RDP clients. There has been demonstration code that shows that Wayland will work with RDP. Modifying SSH to open a few ports for your RDP client to poke through should be literally trivial... you can already do it with -L, AFAIK. The only issue I could foresee is patents, and that's not really a technical issue.
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Can't pardon someone unless they're convicted.
Not true. I suggest you Google for the Iran/Contra scandal with Duane R. Clarridge and Caspar W. Weinberger.
Well, it's round so I 'm not sure that it has a "visible side", but it still seems odd to put the bug ugly power cord at the same place as the USB and Thunderbolt plugs. Not to mention the power button. I know if I owned one, I'd have it rotated to make for easy access, which would have the power cord coming out and very visible.
Oops, I apologize - you had Gb not GB. Just poke my eyes out and call me stupid.
Each lane in PCI Express 3.0 does 8GT/s, not 8GB/s. That's just shy of 1GB/s.
It's a cylinder... where's the "back"? :)
In addition the 'not yet' Mac Pro has NO, i.e. nada, PCI, PCIe or any other high bandwidth high clock rate expansion ports !
Technically, each Thunderbolt port should be just as capable as a 4x PCIe. Presumably, Thunderbolt 2 can do a 8x since it uses both lanes, but this is speculation on my part.
The thing that I don't understand is the ports and power cord are all on the same side - along with the power button. That seems awkward.
All of your favorite tech companies probably capitulated. You are probably surfing Slashdot over a broadband connection from a major ISP that capitulated. Maybe even your phone company that gave up all of your phone call records. Corporations are just a big extension of government - the source of your trouble is the US Government, not Apple or Verizon.
Thing is, I agree with you. But people (your "victims") actually seek this shit out. People actually watch these horrible news programs because they want their own beliefs echoed back to them. You get far more neutral journalism from Al Jazeera then from any major American news network, and that's just sad - but they know how to pander to the "victim".
I mean, it's no accident that the very funny Jon Stewart gets all this free material handed to him every single day. It's a byproduct of the different groups the major networks pander to... it's a never-ending stream of bullshit, and we reward them.
I just listened to this podcast about the "Free State" movement, and I was a bit surprised to hear that the two Free State legislators ran not on Libertarian tickets, but Democrat and Republican tickets. They said they did this because that way they get an "automatic" 30% of the vote. Amazing.
I went through a dozen or so until someone clued me in that they weren't edible.
People keep voting for the best politicians, so...
But find me another powerful country on Earth where there's only two parties to vote for.
China. Oh, wait...
Good! If we are doing more crap like this then I hope more do come forward!
While I agree with you, it still is fun in a dark way to watch them respond. It is also fun to see it get covered in the media. It's also a damn sight cheaper way to get the President's attention than renting buses for protests or hiring a lobbyist.
It's a great place to get ideas, though, isn't it?
Also so what if we reduce sentences all the time? Does that make it right there too?
Sometimes you have to get pragmatic. Your choices in the bank robbery case might be:
1. Nail one guy to the wall and keep him in prison. He didn't cooperate, so the three accomplices go free.
2. Work a deal with one guy and put the three accomplices in jail.
So in one case you have a single bad guy in jail and in the other you have 3 in jail. Sure, you had to compromise your principles a bit, but you'd be foolish not to.
To extend the analogy, we want to encourage this kind of disclosure. If letting this guy slide encourages more whistle-blowers than I am all for it.
Rather scary isn't it? Realistically I suspect this recent revelation is just the tip of the iceberg.
Agreed. The funny thing is that two weeks ago a friend and I were working out cocktail napkin figures for how much storage space they would need for all of this. I felt a little bit like a conspiracy nut at the time, but now I feel vindicated :)
dangerous to our country.
It is far more dangerous to our country that the government is secretly watching all of our phone calls.
This is especially true if he though his acts were illegal
He knew what the government was doing was completely legal - that's the whole problem.
His act also sets a dangerous precedent that if others follow could cause real damage.
If more stuff like this is going on, I certainly hope more people come forward.
We don't actually know if he is right at this point
What in the world do you mean? Do you think it is fine that the government was secretly monitoring everyone's phone records?
In this case he may be "right" but he may also have broken the law which we'll need a trial to decide.
At this point, a trial is a formality. He claims he broke the law, and now the government is agreeing with him. The trial is to establish some facts for the record and sentencing. It also does not appear that the NSA broke any laws - everything seems to be on the up-and-up.
And THAT is the problem. Our system is now set up such that the government can monitor the details of every phone call made by every American, secretly and legally.
It is like saying that bank robber can go free because he punked out the other 3 guys involved even though he drove the get away car and shot at someone.
We reduce sentences for cooperation all the time.
He is one of the spies who was doing this to us....
While that is true, he was just a pawn, just a "soldier following orders". He did the right thing in the end, and not out of self-interest like analogous bank robber.
Anyway, I'm not aware of his impending extradition based on spying on Americans - they are trying to get him for doing the right thing.
So it is your contention that he did the wrong thing? Is it OK for the government to collect detailed phone records of every single American?
Certainly he is not in a position to definitively say if any given intel classified as "top secret" is information that, if made public, will not harm the safety (and ultimately freedom) of US citizens or their allies.
That's a valid argument in Bradley Manning's case, where he disclosed so many documents that he couldn't possibly have even read them all. I don't see that here. He released two documents which he understood very well, and which were simply secret court orders giving broad surveillance authority to the government.
We don't know enough facts about his situation
I'm not sure what you are referring to - the government has confessed to collecting broad swaths of data about all of us. Broad, constant surveillance at this scale should have every single American completely horrified. It is indeed the foundation of a surveillance state.
This guy broke the law, there's no question about it. Sometimes the law is wrong. This is one of those cases.
But not as entertaining.
At the very least, sign the Whitehouse Petition, if only for the entertainment value of forcing Obama to respond.
Pardon Snowden
So in other words, he's right but our system will prosecute him anyway.
Isn't that the definition of a corrupted system? We should change our system and demand a pardon.
No, I don't think that's the problem at this stage. The problem at this stage is that Wayland is not far enough along to use, network transparent or not. I don't think they are handwaving so much as saying they aren't really ready for that yet and they don't see why it will be a roadblock. I agree - I mean, RDP is proven and works at the application level (you can do it on Windows right now if you want). There are open RDP clients. There has been demonstration code that shows that Wayland will work with RDP. Modifying SSH to open a few ports for your RDP client to poke through should be literally trivial... you can already do it with -L, AFAIK. The only issue I could foresee is patents, and that's not really a technical issue.