False. There isn't an easy-to-use set of built-in bridges, but emscripten can help you with that. Or you can roll your own. I did, it's not hard once you understand what WebAssembly is.
That's good to know.
You're mixing up your front-end and back-ends.
No, you're a moron. To be more precise and less inflammatory, you misunderstood my argument, mainly because I didn't spell it out explicitly. Here you go:
1) Why do people use Javascript on the backend? Because it is easy for people who only know Javascript to use. It's not because Javascript is a good language. There is some synergy gained by using the same language on the frontend and backend.
2) When there are better options in the front end, then people will start using those, instead of Javascript. Then the only reason to use Javascript on the backend will disappear.
WebAssembly will be here for a long time. They're not rushing it out for that reason. Other platforms will be built on top of it, and that's where the churn will be, but WebAssembly will remain like x86 has.
Oh, I'm sorry, you write shitty code and now you are trying to justify the pile of shit that it is. Let me guess, your bug tracker has an ever increasing bug count, and you have some excuse for that too? If you even have a bug tracker.
There are plenty of people who like.Net for good reasons, and it's a decent system. Let me guess, when you say "I develop on Linux for a living" are you doing Mono?
Here is one in the state of Minnesota. Say we sell a pair of gloves. If the user uses them to keep their hands clean they are taxable. If the user uses them for a safety purpose. handling glass with sharp edges, they are not taxable.
Uh, so what if the gloves are used to keep hands warm? Surely that is a common use case in Minnesota?
I honestly have no problems with other platforms... except maybe Java... and that's because I simply feel completely disconnected from the platform when I'm using Java. I spent 30 more wasted minutes of my life yesterday trying to make WebStart... well web start. But it seems that Oracle seems to think making WebStart work in Chrome is a waste of time.
This is what I don't get about you C# people.....you complain about not being able to get simple stuff to work, and then you want me to respect your technical skills? Nah.
I guess you're in the Python bubble?
It's the programmer, not the language. "A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming is not worth knowing."
Soon, Mono will have a WebAssembly back end, but for the moment, we're a bit far from that since WebAssembly doesn't really do garbage collection... yet.
It also doesn't have access to the DOM..NET is so far superior to Javascript for writing web apps (as are many other options) that when it becomes an option, node will be gone with PERL.
Should I mention here that I voluntarily use C# and the.NET eco system
That's not really helpful, everyone in a bubble is there voluntarily....otherwise it would be more apt to use jail as a metaphor.
Or the bubble they live in is in the office where the boss loves Active Directory and win32 software and need something that talks and integrates well with their ecosystem.
If they actually chose the right product for the job, then they are not in a bubble. There are some people like that.
You know not everyone is blessed to be a bearded hipster making $180,000 a year in Silicon Valley and working from a coffee shop all day while working in their hip node.js frameworks talking to the NOSQL database for a company that doesn't make any money.
Heh, sounds like I hit a nerve. You didn't happen to own a Windows Phone, did you?
I guess MS has created a bubble of true in the company who have no self-awareness or knowledge of the world outside its borders.
There's a surprisingly large population of programmers who use.NET, carried Windows Phones, built web applications in Silverlight, and consider themselves 'aware' because they don't like IE. These people actually do live in a bubble, and like the integratedness of the Microsoft ecosystem, and can't see a world outside of it.
it's hard to secure a device you can't update or get telemetry from,
This is completely wrong. Let's ignore the fact that it's hard to secure a device that needs updates ( the best way to acquire confidence that a program has no errors is never to find the first one, no matter how much it is tested and used. -HD Mills).
The real lie here is that getting telemetry from a device is not because they want to make it more secure.
"Windows IoT runs on microprocessor units (MPUs) which have at least 100x the power of the MCU....These are low-powered, single-core ARM-A7 systems that run at 500MHz and include WiFi connectivity as well as a number of other I/O options.
If these 'low powered' chips are too weak for Windows to run on, then Windows has a bloat problem.
IoT turned DEFCON into a party again. It was all getting kind of boring, with finding exploits in the major OSes being more time-consuming, but now suddenly there are so many device exploits that people are giving them away free. A lot of times it's as simple as echo "admin\n admin\n" | telnet device_ip I thought we were done with the days of telnet exploits but it's a gift that keeps giving.
fwiw a lot of that can be fixed by turning down the brightness on your laptop screen. The backlight draws a lot of power, and Apple aggressively dims the screen.
Because when the next elections come, the backlash is gonna be so hard that we're gonna make sure that red-state shallow-end-of-the-gene-pool filth like you NEVER get the chance to take control of this country ever again, and for generations to come.
Wow, what a winning campaign strategy. It's the cheeriness, inclusiveness and optimism in your post that really makes me want to vote for you.
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It's rare that an operating system succeeds (or fails) on technical merits, and you know it.
I'd say 70% of my daily commute is now handled by autopilot.
How do you keep yourself focused while the car is on autopilot?
False. There isn't an easy-to-use set of built-in bridges, but emscripten can help you with that. Or you can roll your own. I did, it's not hard once you understand what WebAssembly is.
That's good to know.
You're mixing up your front-end and back-ends.
No, you're a moron. To be more precise and less inflammatory, you misunderstood my argument, mainly because I didn't spell it out explicitly. Here you go:
1) Why do people use Javascript on the backend? Because it is easy for people who only know Javascript to use. It's not because Javascript is a good language. There is some synergy gained by using the same language on the frontend and backend.
2) When there are better options in the front end, then people will start using those, instead of Javascript. Then the only reason to use Javascript on the backend will disappear.
WebAssembly will be here for a long time. They're not rushing it out for that reason. Other platforms will be built on top of it, and that's where the churn will be, but WebAssembly will remain like x86 has.
You are indeed full of shit. That's ok, I like you anyway.
Your only comparison is with C and C++?
Oh, I'm sorry, you write shitty code and now you are trying to justify the pile of shit that it is. Let me guess, your bug tracker has an ever increasing bug count, and you have some excuse for that too? If you even have a bug tracker.
Well if you prefer .Net you probably have reasons.
There are plenty of people who like .Net for good reasons, and it's a decent system. Let me guess, when you say "I develop on Linux for a living" are you doing Mono?
Here is one in the state of Minnesota. Say we sell a pair of gloves. If the user uses them to keep their hands clean they are taxable. If the user uses them for a safety purpose. handling glass with sharp edges, they are not taxable.
Uh, so what if the gloves are used to keep hands warm? Surely that is a common use case in Minnesota?
I honestly have no problems with other platforms... except maybe Java... and that's because I simply feel completely disconnected from the platform when I'm using Java. I spent 30 more wasted minutes of my life yesterday trying to make WebStart... well web start. But it seems that Oracle seems to think making WebStart work in Chrome is a waste of time.
This is what I don't get about you C# people.....you complain about not being able to get simple stuff to work, and then you want me to respect your technical skills? Nah.
I guess you're in the Python bubble?
It's the programmer, not the language. "A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming is not worth knowing."
It's not irony, it's standard operating procedure.
Soon, Mono will have a WebAssembly back end, but for the moment, we're a bit far from that since WebAssembly doesn't really do garbage collection... yet.
It also doesn't have access to the DOM. .NET is so far superior to Javascript for writing web apps (as are many other options) that when it becomes an option, node will be gone with PERL.
Should I mention here that I voluntarily use C# and the .NET eco system
That's not really helpful, everyone in a bubble is there voluntarily....otherwise it would be more apt to use jail as a metaphor.
Node.js is dead. Pay attention to Web Assembly, that is the future.
Or the bubble they live in is in the office where the boss loves Active Directory and win32 software and need something that talks and integrates well with their ecosystem.
If they actually chose the right product for the job, then they are not in a bubble. There are some people like that.
You know not everyone is blessed to be a bearded hipster making $180,000 a year in Silicon Valley and working from a coffee shop all day while working in their hip node.js frameworks talking to the NOSQL database for a company that doesn't make any money.
Heh, sounds like I hit a nerve. You didn't happen to own a Windows Phone, did you?
I guess MS has created a bubble of true in the company who have no self-awareness or knowledge of the world outside its borders.
There's a surprisingly large population of programmers who use .NET, carried Windows Phones, built web applications in Silverlight, and consider themselves 'aware' because they don't like IE. These people actually do live in a bubble, and like the integratedness of the Microsoft ecosystem, and can't see a world outside of it.
it's hard to secure a device you can't update or get telemetry from,
This is completely wrong. Let's ignore the fact that it's hard to secure a device that needs updates ( the best way to acquire confidence that a program has no errors is never to find the first one, no matter how much it is tested and used. -HD Mills).
The real lie here is that getting telemetry from a device is not because they want to make it more secure.
"Windows IoT runs on microprocessor units (MPUs) which have at least 100x the power of the MCU....These are low-powered, single-core ARM-A7 systems that run at 500MHz and include WiFi connectivity as well as a number of other I/O options.
If these 'low powered' chips are too weak for Windows to run on, then Windows has a bloat problem.
IoT turned DEFCON into a party again. It was all getting kind of boring, with finding exploits in the major OSes being more time-consuming, but now suddenly there are so many device exploits that people are giving them away free. A lot of times it's as simple as
echo "admin\n admin\n" | telnet device_ip
I thought we were done with the days of telnet exploits but it's a gift that keeps giving.
fwiw a lot of that can be fixed by turning down the brightness on your laptop screen. The backlight draws a lot of power, and Apple aggressively dims the screen.
When IT people choose a political affiliation they tend to focus on calling out bullshit on the other side
That's a good observation.
speak honestly about Trump and the horrible behavior of the republican party,
The horrible behavior of your own party doesn't bother you?
Yes, because they rarely get to advertise when shit goes right and legitimate bad guys are stopped.
Why? Aren't the trials supposed to be public?
I didn't vote for Trump.
Because when the next elections come, the backlash is gonna be so hard that we're gonna make sure that red-state shallow-end-of-the-gene-pool filth like you NEVER get the chance to take control of this country ever again, and for generations to come.
Wow, what a winning campaign strategy. It's the cheeriness, inclusiveness and optimism in your post that really makes me want to vote for you.