Imagine if they and Bohrs had been right though. Planets and moons in perfect circles, atoms and electrons in perfect orbits. I am no ID person, and though a Christian I will swear on a Bible that I have evolved germs many times and in many ways. But funny to think about 'The Blind Watchmaker' if the universe ran like a clock! An interesting thought experiment nothing more.
As a State employee (also in the union) I get what you are saying and can see why you would be aggravated. Our union is fractioned off from the main state employee union, they are AFSCME, we are MAPE - a union that only exists in our state to my knowledge. Sadly we follow AFSCME around like the little kid brother because they are so much larger than we are they cast a huge shadow. I think Fair Share is a fair idea - BUT - the share part isn't so great. Around here it is like $5 a pay period different then flat out membership - and that is a crock.
If they're not willing to fight for what they negotiated, then I shouldn't have to pay them. And since I have no choice in whether I pay them*, then my payments, and the thousands of others who are forced to pay, are nothing but blackmail.
I will have to think about this some. It is an interesting statement. The first sentence I can agree with. I will think about the whole some more.
I can read thank you, it seems you are the one with the difficulty. Your entire response paragraph is already IT history from a few years back, WITHOUT unions being there at all. Tell me again, how is a union going to make it worse?
Riiight. Tell that to the EA game programmers. But I guess I am an idiot for thinking that a salary is somehow justification for a continuous 80 hour work week. Or did you miss the part where unions were started up to end this kind of abuse? Maybe you like working that much for the same pay a guy working a straight 40 does. I may be dumb, but at least I am not a sucker. Sucker.
Yes, especially as it was those religious beliefs that allowed this device to be created in the first place, or did you miss the part about the Babylonian priests? Good God, can't you people get off your Anti-Religion Flaming Horse for one thread a day?
You were a temp and got no benefits, you paid fair share, and I am guessing you got the same pay as if you were not a temp. Try seeing what temps make in the private sectors vs full time employees
You became a full time employee and got benefits.
The Chief executive decided to reorg and eliminate an agency, which is his prerogative. He more than likely couldn't have canned anyone and so the Union had no real grounds to do or say anything except shrug. So you wanted the Union to fight because the Gov killed an efficient agency. So he was a dumbass, but it is the unions fault.
Now it is negotiation time again and because the union cant get any traction you feel right in complaining about your fair share. Are you willing to strike? Are you willing to go to the papers and the people and explain why despite the fact that you make less than industry that getting at least a cost of living increase is fair and justified? Or do you want to deride your own union so that next time negotiations come up they have even less traction than now?
The union *is* trying to get you more benefits. Somehow you think that having a deduction from your check gets you magic bene's. It doesn't. As you have seen it barely lets you keep what you have. Become active in your union and maybe next time you can sit at the table and tell the state "Hey, you are the only ones who can fix COLA's, and this time you are not doing it on our backs".
You are right, there are gold bricks around a union shop, I will give you that. They exist in private industry as well. They go by names like toadies, suck-ups, 'consultants' and idiot bosses sons I see all the time.
say there is a union. it 'protects' your job.... and wages due to rise of the unions...
You do realize that without those lines the rest of your post reads as history and not supposition right? The lack of unions sure has not done diddly for off shoring. Would unions have made it worse? Maybe, maybe not, we dont know. What we do know however is that without Unions present it did happen. What I can also tell you is that in the state of Minnesota the Republican Governor came out to state that we wouldn't offshore state IT jobs. Oh, did I mention that this was brought about because of the concerns expressed by the State's unionized IT workers?
Great, go try and collect your overtime as an IT worker. It is on the law books that they have to pay OT after all. Except oooooops most IT people are exempt from OT now. A Union of IT people might fix something like that. A person "who are paid at least $455 per week on a salary basis" won't.
I did say that they should not be the environment that stifles creativity and learning you seem to think they should.
At no point did I say they should stifle creativity.
Yes, I do think students should be able to pass out CDs at their discretion.
You have just pained yourself as a single male. And you have also just pointed out that you are a moron. I mean actually lacking frontal brain cognition. For an instant can you imagine a child who you are responsible for bringing home a cd full of porn? My God you are full of dumb.
I didn't say schools are necessarily a prison, although in many ways they are. However, students VIEW them as prison, and they will feel as if they are in prison. Students HATE school and frequently skip and apparently are cheating more than ever. Doesn't sound like our teachers are cultivating minds, does it?
Now we have to win 'Hearts and Minds' of 14 year olds? Sorry no. They view it as prison because we give them that option. Anything difficult we give people a pass on, HS included. Easier is not an option.
No, people in general have no flippin' idea what the word '*nix' means
He argued, "This is a classic example why people hate *nix." I was talking about tech saavy people that know about *nix anyway, your point is extremely pedantic.
You want generalities, I give you facts. Facts are not pedantic. btw it is "she" argued.
I have seen the back ups of the College I work for. Excluding Student Data for true data we clock in at under 100G. *Including* student data we barely break 400G And that is historical data going back 30+ years. There is no way on this earth that you have 500G of actual data. I am sure that you think you do, and I am sure that someone will respond to this post with 'proof' that they do have that kind of data. However if you make a "must survive me/must survive a fire/anyone other than would give a damn" list I cannot see anything over 5G.
She was way, way out of line in accusing the man of doing something illegal.
OK, Let us start with the fact that this wasn't a "Man" in any sense of the word. My children go to public school, they bring the words and ideals of Liberty and Freedom with them to educate others. Cloistering yours will not help this country.
Did you even graduate from high school? Many instructors are completely incompetent and are just plain silly. I've had good instructors, too. But I had enough bad ones to lose faith in teachers in general.
And yet you can read and write... amazing.
...What? There's a difference between "not being an expert on everything" and being an ignorant jackass, which it sounds like what the teacher was doing.
Ignorance is forgivable. You seem to think that a student should be able to hand out cds at school willy nilly. Sorry, but no, I dont want your porn/virus/trojan laced cds booting on my machines because some kid says it is all good.
You say school is a controlled environment, but so is prison. Treat schools like a prison, and students will appreciate them like a prison. Believe it or not, you don't have to chain students down to get order.
Nope you don't. But your premise is wrong. School has to be a controlled environment, but equating that with prison is lazy philosophy. Schools have always been tightly controlled. You seem to think that they should be some sort of democracy. They shouldn't. Look at the world of any JR college to see why thatfails in so many ways.
No, people in general do not hate *nix and even if they did this wouldn't be a reason.
No, people in general have no flippin' idea what the word '*nix' means
As for that... WHAT damage done {was sic*} to students, that teachers didn't do?
By all means discount the good that was done to them as well, and discount your own parents culpability in the entire mess. I mean you were Tabla Rasa when you were ingloriously shipped off right?
That "Healthy Fear" is not very healthy. You were taught that fear because Java is the main competitor to.NET. Just to be clear here, I make my kip as a C# developer and if I could I would trade up to Java. The deeper parts of Java are muddy and nasty, but on the other hand C#'s ability to never name a function properly bothers me every day. Go learn Java.
O' DRM, my CD drive light is shining,
It is the night of a new SecROM birth.
Long lay the world in copy and torrent pinning,
'Til it appeared and Sony felt it's worth.
A thrill of hope and the corporate world rejoices,
For yonder breaks a new install born.
Fall on your knees! O, hear the Millennium Act!
O' D RM, O' DRM when media is born;
O' D RM, O' D RM, O DRM Divine.
The rest of us "get it" but the rest of us don't write pacemaker software or whatever. If they have the ability, almost every other engineer signs their work. Hell, I am not sure I *want* to drive over a bridge that the lead Architect and the lead engineer didn't sign. If for an instant you think our mechanical brethren 'sign' their work you are wrong. Do they sign pacemakers? No. Bridges? Yes. It is a matter of scale. Something that you, an Engineer should be able to see.
Why would drug addiction be fireable? If a person does the job they were hired to do who gives a shit what they are on while they do it? I admit, I don't want someone who is drunk to drive the bus I am on, but at the same time if he wants to take steroids to have bigger muscles who I to complain? Your post tells me that he got nitpicked to quit, not that he was doing his job poorly. Worse, your post tells me that no one wanted to help a heroin addict ("or pay for his treatment"). That is just wrong. I would imagine that you are thinking of some version of the 'bootstrap' philosophy right now - 'Dun pull myself up, why don't you?' Which of course is woefully ignorant of the way the world actually works. Kayden, I live in Minnesota as well, it is an 'at will' state. He could have been canned at any time for any reason. There is no 'keep an addict' law. I don't know who started the rumor at your job, but it just ain't true.
Seraphim
Sounds to me that you might look into the API of Thinstall. It has to keep track of all changes so that it can run a packager. I have played with a few apps that have been created from it and they seem to work great. I imagine that if the API is good getting to that info and even tweaking it might be possible.
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Imagine if they and Bohrs had been right though. Planets and moons in perfect circles, atoms and electrons in perfect orbits. I am no ID person, and though a Christian I will swear on a Bible that I have evolved germs many times and in many ways. But funny to think about 'The Blind Watchmaker' if the universe ran like a clock! An interesting thought experiment nothing more.
Sera
As a State employee (also in the union) I get what you are saying and can see why you would be aggravated. Our union is fractioned off from the main state employee union, they are AFSCME, we are MAPE - a union that only exists in our state to my knowledge. Sadly we follow AFSCME around like the little kid brother because they are so much larger than we are they cast a huge shadow. I think Fair Share is a fair idea - BUT - the share part isn't so great. Around here it is like $5 a pay period different then flat out membership - and that is a crock.
If they're not willing to fight for what they negotiated, then I shouldn't have to pay them. And since I have no choice in whether I pay them*, then my payments, and the thousands of others who are forced to pay, are nothing but blackmail.
I will have to think about this some. It is an interesting statement. The first sentence I can agree with. I will think about the whole some more.
Thank you for the thoughtful response.
Sera
I can read thank you, it seems you are the one with the difficulty. Your entire response paragraph is already IT history from a few years back, WITHOUT unions being there at all. Tell me again, how is a union going to make it worse?
Riiight. Tell that to the EA game programmers. But I guess I am an idiot for thinking that a salary is somehow justification for a continuous 80 hour work week. Or did you miss the part where unions were started up to end this kind of abuse? Maybe you like working that much for the same pay a guy working a straight 40 does. I may be dumb, but at least I am not a sucker. Sucker.
Yes, especially as it was those religious beliefs that allowed this device to be created in the first place, or did you miss the part about the Babylonian priests? Good God, can't you people get off your Anti-Religion Flaming Horse for one thread a day?
Let me see if I have this right.
You were a temp and got no benefits, you paid fair share, and I am guessing you got the same pay as if you were not a temp. Try seeing what temps make in the private sectors vs full time employees
You became a full time employee and got benefits.
The Chief executive decided to reorg and eliminate an agency, which is his prerogative. He more than likely couldn't have canned anyone and so the Union had no real grounds to do or say anything except shrug. So you wanted the Union to fight because the Gov killed an efficient agency. So he was a dumbass, but it is the unions fault.
Now it is negotiation time again and because the union cant get any traction you feel right in complaining about your fair share. Are you willing to strike? Are you willing to go to the papers and the people and explain why despite the fact that you make less than industry that getting at least a cost of living increase is fair and justified? Or do you want to deride your own union so that next time negotiations come up they have even less traction than now?
The union *is* trying to get you more benefits. Somehow you think that having a deduction from your check gets you magic bene's. It doesn't. As you have seen it barely lets you keep what you have. Become active in your union and maybe next time you can sit at the table and tell the state "Hey, you are the only ones who can fix COLA's, and this time you are not doing it on our backs".
You are right, there are gold bricks around a union shop, I will give you that. They exist in private industry as well. They go by names like toadies, suck-ups, 'consultants' and idiot bosses sons I see all the time.
Sera
You do realize that without those lines the rest of your post reads as history and not supposition right? The lack of unions sure has not done diddly for off shoring. Would unions have made it worse? Maybe, maybe not, we dont know. What we do know however is that without Unions present it did happen. What I can also tell you is that in the state of Minnesota the Republican Governor came out to state that we wouldn't offshore state IT jobs. Oh, did I mention that this was brought about because of the concerns expressed by the State's unionized IT workers?
Sera
Great, go try and collect your overtime as an IT worker. It is on the law books that they have to pay OT after all. Except oooooops most IT people are exempt from OT now. A Union of IT people might fix something like that. A person "who are paid at least $455 per week on a salary basis" won't.
Sera
At no point did I say they should stifle creativity.
You have just pained yourself as a single male. And you have also just pointed out that you are a moron. I mean actually lacking frontal brain cognition. For an instant can you imagine a child who you are responsible for bringing home a cd full of porn? My God you are full of dumb.
Now we have to win 'Hearts and Minds' of 14 year olds? Sorry no. They view it as prison because we give them that option. Anything difficult we give people a pass on, HS included. Easier is not an option.
You want generalities, I give you facts. Facts are not pedantic. btw it is "she" argued.
I have seen the back ups of the College I work for. Excluding Student Data for true data we clock in at under 100G. *Including* student data we barely break 400G And that is historical data going back 30+ years. There is no way on this earth that you have 500G of actual data. I am sure that you think you do, and I am sure that someone will respond to this post with 'proof' that they do have that kind of data. However if you make a "must survive me/must survive a fire/anyone other than would give a damn" list I cannot see anything over 5G.
And indexed and searched by people that are not your friends. Sorry, I honestly cant believe that anyone uses Google mail for anything serious.
I am not a server person so forgive the ignorance, but can you make a RAID of RAIDs? (assuming that you had more money than Bill G himself)
OK, Let us start with the fact that this wasn't a "Man" in any sense of the word. My children go to public school, they bring the words and ideals of Liberty and Freedom with them to educate others. Cloistering yours will not help this country.
Seraphim
And yet you can read and write ... amazing.
Ignorance is forgivable. You seem to think that a student should be able to hand out cds at school willy nilly. Sorry, but no, I dont want your porn/virus/trojan laced cds booting on my machines because some kid says it is all good.
Nope you don't. But your premise is wrong. School has to be a controlled environment, but equating that with prison is lazy philosophy. Schools have always been tightly controlled. You seem to think that they should be some sort of democracy. They shouldn't. Look at the world of any JR college to see why thatfails in so many ways.
No, people in general have no flippin' idea what the word '*nix' means
By all means discount the good that was done to them as well, and discount your own parents culpability in the entire mess. I mean you were Tabla Rasa when you were ingloriously shipped off right?
There is also a difference between reality and non-techie reality
By being an ass? Sorry his reply was way off base and as ignorant and stupid as the accusation. IMHO he owes the entire linux community an apology.
Sera
I will have to run upstairs and tell my G3 to stop doing that then. It will be sad :(
Pot meet kettle.
And I am no Mac Fanboi I have never purchased a mac in my life, only ever been given them when they were junked by their previous owners.
Good, now install XP or Linux on it and tell me if you still think Vista was running "fine"
I have done this a number of times with all kinds of machines (even this glorious Lenovo tablet) - Vista is a dog on *any* system
That "Healthy Fear" is not very healthy. You were taught that fear because Java is the main competitor to .NET. Just to be clear here, I make my kip as a C# developer and if I could I would trade up to Java. The deeper parts of Java are muddy and nasty, but on the other hand C#'s ability to never name a function properly bothers me every day. Go learn Java.
to the tune of O Holy Night
O' DRM, my CD drive light is shining,
It is the night of a new SecROM birth.
Long lay the world in copy and torrent pinning,
'Til it appeared and Sony felt it's worth.
A thrill of hope and the corporate world rejoices,
For yonder breaks a new install born.
Fall on your knees! O, hear the Millennium Act!
O' D RM, O' DRM when media is born;
O' D RM, O' D RM, O DRM Divine.
You got a better way to fight gravity?
The rest of us "get it" but the rest of us don't write pacemaker software or whatever. If they have the ability, almost every other engineer signs their work. Hell, I am not sure I *want* to drive over a bridge that the lead Architect and the lead engineer didn't sign. If for an instant you think our mechanical brethren 'sign' their work you are wrong. Do they sign pacemakers? No. Bridges? Yes. It is a matter of scale. Something that you, an Engineer should be able to see.
Yeah, if it would play Taps instead of the horrible flatline noise that would be nice.
Why would drug addiction be fireable? If a person does the job they were hired to do who gives a shit what they are on while they do it? I admit, I don't want someone who is drunk to drive the bus I am on, but at the same time if he wants to take steroids to have bigger muscles who I to complain? Your post tells me that he got nitpicked to quit, not that he was doing his job poorly. Worse, your post tells me that no one wanted to help a heroin addict ("or pay for his treatment"). That is just wrong. I would imagine that you are thinking of some version of the 'bootstrap' philosophy right now - 'Dun pull myself up, why don't you?' Which of course is woefully ignorant of the way the world actually works. Kayden, I live in Minnesota as well, it is an 'at will' state. He could have been canned at any time for any reason. There is no 'keep an addict' law. I don't know who started the rumor at your job, but it just ain't true. Seraphim
...but why did he leave Cambridge and the Newton Chair? No troll, I honestly want to know.
Sounds to me that you might look into the API of Thinstall. It has to keep track of all changes so that it can run a packager. I have played with a few apps that have been created from it and they seem to work great. I imagine that if the API is good getting to that info and even tweaking it might be possible.
Sera