You inslut the memory of every person who ever died for daring to try and find a better life away from tyranny by comparing the mere need to identify yourself to a police officer with the controls that the tyrannical regimes of the 20th century used to keep their population from seeking freedom.
Now I am surprised! Here in the land Down Under, we have always been compelled to identify ourselves to police. Name and address, but there's no ID card requirement.
Sure, but only on Saturday nite, and only to make sure everyone gets home in time for early-morning Sunday sheep-shearing.
thank you. this is exactly what I was goign to reply with, but i would have given it a a more for that WWII movie fake german accent sounding slant: "pah-piers, pah-piers! Hast Du Pah-piers bitte?"
You should hear my grandfather. He does a great "For you, the war is over" -- based on his capture on a beach on the coast of Fresia.
Why not hire and train Iraqi citizens to rebuild it?
Huh? You're shitting me, aren't you? I mean, what the fuck is the point in bombing Iraq in the first place, if Halliburton and others don't get the sweet contracts to rebuild?
...but if you get abducted and beheaded, don't expect me to shed a tear. I have little sympathy for the carpet-baggers currently over around Iraq's moribund corpse.
Yeah, how dare the people that work for the likes of Halliburton expect to actually get paid for risking their lives to try to establish a decent way of life for Iraqi..
The question I have for those of you advocating limits to free speech is, are you like my teacher? My experience is, you probably are.
Based on a single data point.
I have found that, generally, those that would like to limit speech are usually the first ones to use it to control, abuse or malign others.
Generally? GENERALLY? If you learned one single damn thing from your teacher, it should have been that generalizations from single circumstances are completely worthless. It sounds like you didn't learn this; therefore, I guess there is a certain divine justice in your teacher labelling you a pedo, on the basis of a single stance you took over a single issue. Moron.
...Krispy Kreme, manufacturer of premium farinaceous products, have announced the construction of a new supercomputer. The device, which will contain 1729 million AMD Opteron CPUs, linked to 1 terabyte of 2 picosecond RAM via a 1 Exabit/s bus, will be used to model the diffusive transport of coffee throughout glazed doughnuts.
...this message brought to you courtesy of the memory of LEO.
Of course, like all British technological innovation, any lead over the rest of the world was quickly thrown away by an incompetent government and business sector.
...one of the labs was named after him; he was a student there back before he was famous. However, the weirdness is that it was a biology lab, not a computing or math lab. D'oh!
Back when the Magellan mission was mapping the surface of Venus, I had a planetary geology friend who was involved in assigning names to features. I managed to persuade him to name a crater after my girlfriend Marianne, as a birthday present to her. At the time I thought this gift was pretty cool; unlike star names, which are meaningless, this was an official designation, and furthermore Venus was the Planet O' Love.
My mistake, however, was to forgetting that Venus is eternal, but love isn't. Every time I see Venus hanging in the evening sky, I realize I named that damn crater after the wrong woman. LOL!
Where is the line between making criminal activity difficult and, well "and what?"
That's not the issue here. What is the issue is what counts as criminal, and what doesn't; you have to remember that "pornography" is in the eye of the beholder. In recent years, there have been two instances in the UK where artists have shown naked photos of their children (in normal, non-sexual poses) as part of gallery exhibitions. In both cases, the police have investigatated and/or closed the exhibition, on the grounds that the photos are pornographic.
Can you see, therefore, how things might go wrong -- what with "child pornography" being such an ill-defined term? Sure, most people will agree on what constitutes hard-core KP; but what about naked photos of children? Is it wise to argue that there is no legitimate place for such photos, and that all of them should be censored?
On a related note, a number of people have already remarked about the danger of blocking KP because it is 'illegal'. If at all, it should be blocked because it is part of an industry which leads to the commoditization and abuse of children; but not because it is illegal. Last week, a group of people broke into a nuclear weapons research facility in the UK, as a protest against the government's handling of the war in Iraq. This act was illegal; but at the same time it can be argued that it was also highly moral. My point is, don't start thinking that because something is illegal, it must -- by definition -- be bad. The two are only loosely connected.
Finally, how is BT's censorship going to assist in closing down the KP industry? Sure, it will stop everyday punters (such as judges, policemen, politicians, etc -- I kid you not, pardon for the pun) from accessing the KP; but will it be of any use whatsoever in catching those which create, share and/or sell the KP? If not, what exactly is BT hoping to achieve by their actions?
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...that the Army is buying.
You inslut the memory of every person who ever died for daring to try and find a better life away from tyranny by comparing the mere need to identify yourself to a police officer with the controls that the tyrannical regimes of the 20th century used to keep their population from seeking freedom.
I live in the USA. I need papers to travel.
so, how come we aren't seeing the mass migration of all you intelligent americans to canada yet?
It's already happened -- he crossed the border last Thursday.
Now I am surprised! Here in the land Down Under, we have always been compelled to identify ourselves to police. Name and address, but there's no ID card requirement.
Sure, but only on Saturday nite, and only to make sure everyone gets home in time for early-morning Sunday sheep-shearing.
thank you. this is exactly what I was goign to reply with, but i would have given it a a more for that WWII movie fake german accent sounding slant: "pah-piers, pah-piers! Hast Du Pah-piers bitte?"
You should hear my grandfather. He does a great "For you, the war is over" -- based on his capture on a beach on the coast of Fresia.
My name? Jose Jimenez...
...you arrested my cousin. Prepare to die!
"Your papers, please?"
What's the point of FP if you do it anonymously?
To provoke couch-jockeys like yourself?
Maybe you should go look up arrogant.
Learn grammar, and then have another go, if you think you're hard enough.
Well said. It's refreshing to read a post from someone who looks beyond the simple money vs. security issues.
Why not hire and train Iraqi citizens to rebuild it?
Huh? You're shitting me, aren't you? I mean, what the fuck is the point in bombing Iraq in the first place, if Halliburton and others don't get the sweet contracts to rebuild?
TAX FREE?? Where do I sign up!
Beneath the big banner proclaiming "Grave-Robbers & Corpse Pickers Required".
I got my A+ certification and CCNA and...
My caffeine-starved brain read that as GNAA. Feck!
and to let them know that the basic American is not the military that they fear.
Tell that to the Iraqi citizens who have been tortured by American civilian contractors in Abu Ghraib.
...but if you get abducted and beheaded, don't expect me to shed a tear. I have little sympathy for the carpet-baggers currently over around Iraq's moribund corpse.
Yeah, how dare the people that work for the likes of Halliburton expect to actually get paid for risking their lives to try to establish a decent way of life for Iraqi..
Do you even know what 'carpet-bagging' means?
The question I have for those of you advocating limits to free speech is, are you like my teacher? My experience is, you probably are.
Based on a single data point.
I have found that, generally, those that would like to limit speech are usually the first ones to use it to control, abuse or malign others.
Generally? GENERALLY? If you learned one single damn thing from your teacher, it should have been that generalizations from single circumstances are completely worthless. It sounds like you didn't learn this; therefore, I guess there is a certain divine justice in your teacher labelling you a pedo, on the basis of a single stance you took over a single issue. Moron.
Foreign prisoners of war are not usually treated under the civilian law; therefore, the U.S. Constitution does not apply to them.
So, in fact, all men are created equal, but some are more equal than others?
...Krispy Kreme, manufacturer of premium farinaceous products, have announced the construction of a new supercomputer. The device, which will contain 1729 million AMD Opteron CPUs, linked to 1 terabyte of 2 picosecond RAM via a 1 Exabit/s bus, will be used to model the diffusive transport of coffee throughout glazed doughnuts.
...this message brought to you courtesy of the memory of LEO.
Of course, like all British technological innovation, any lead over the rest of the world was quickly thrown away by an incompetent government and business sector.
...one of the labs was named after him; he was a student there back before he was famous. However, the weirdness is that it was a biology lab, not a computing or math lab. D'oh!
Back when the Magellan mission was mapping the surface of Venus, I had a planetary geology friend who was involved in assigning names to features. I managed to persuade him to name a crater after my girlfriend Marianne, as a birthday present to her. At the time I thought this gift was pretty cool; unlike star names, which are meaningless, this was an official designation, and furthermore Venus was the Planet O' Love.
My mistake, however, was to forgetting that Venus is eternal, but love isn't. Every time I see Venus hanging in the evening sky, I realize I named that damn crater after the wrong woman. LOL!
Where is the line between making criminal activity difficult and, well "and what?"
That's not the issue here. What is the issue is what counts as criminal, and what doesn't; you have to remember that "pornography" is in the eye of the beholder. In recent years, there have been two instances in the UK where artists have shown naked photos of their children (in normal, non-sexual poses) as part of gallery exhibitions. In both cases, the police have investigatated and/or closed the exhibition, on the grounds that the photos are pornographic.
Can you see, therefore, how things might go wrong -- what with "child pornography" being such an ill-defined term? Sure, most people will agree on what constitutes hard-core KP; but what about naked photos of children? Is it wise to argue that there is no legitimate place for such photos, and that all of them should be censored?
On a related note, a number of people have already remarked about the danger of blocking KP because it is 'illegal'. If at all, it should be blocked because it is part of an industry which leads to the commoditization and abuse of children; but not because it is illegal. Last week, a group of people broke into a nuclear weapons research facility in the UK, as a protest against the government's handling of the war in Iraq. This act was illegal; but at the same time it can be argued that it was also highly moral. My point is, don't start thinking that because something is illegal, it must -- by definition -- be bad. The two are only loosely connected.
Finally, how is BT's censorship going to assist in closing down the KP industry? Sure, it will stop everyday punters (such as judges, policemen, politicians, etc -- I kid you not, pardon for the pun) from accessing the KP; but will it be of any use whatsoever in catching those which create, share and/or sell the KP? If not, what exactly is BT hoping to achieve by their actions?
As Michael Eisner has said before, we are a company that is founded on ideals of the American family backbone...
What utter crap. Kill Bill was a Disney film. What family ideals does Kill Bill espouse? You've been hoodwinked, boy.
Oh, wait, we can't show the torture and murders that went on back then, that's not fair.
Once a brutal dictator like Saddam Hussein becomes your moral compass, you have lost. Completely. Finito.