The operative words are "The company charges". That's how much the company gets paid, not the employee. A company's standard billing rate can be $100 while the actual tech may only see something like $18 of it.
ugh. That nasty, watered down "unified" crap that RedHat put out is exactly the reason I STOPPED using their distro. I can't stand their pussy gui config utilities. It's annoying that YellowDog is doing it too.
"you want a man's gun, not no sissy gun like this."
--Jefe, "The Three Amigos"
yeah, i can see it now...... "and here they go, as they race to get each patch downloaded and reboot the server, over and over again before their preparation time is up and the server goes LIVE" "oh! it's a blue screen of death!" "and now, to bring out the secret weapon..... THE NIMDA VIRUS!! can the defending team download the patch in time???"
-seriously lame
ianawu
(i am not a windows user)
it is - in fact - quite entertaining to see. one of the greatest things is that even as a spectator, you can participate. the network is open to anyone who wants to attack. even better, if you participate on a team, it's fun to 0wn every other team out there. there does happen to be some commentary going on during the competition as to what is going on, so that the audience has a good idea as to what is going on. it's really a matter of interest whether on not you find this kind of thing entertaining. personally, i find baseball incredibly boring. hacking competitions, on the other hand, are very entertaining to me. it's very much a competitive team sport.
then again, i hope people don't charge anyone who has never used the OS to run a server. the argument is invalid. you don't get the janitor to administor the webservers.
again, this is depending on the OS to be recoverable. migrating things in windows between servers is a PITA. then there's registry corruption (oh yes we can back everything up on a floppy, or whatever... until you migrate whatever you want to another server and something 18 levels down doesn't match up and you get a big fat bsod. the fact that windows automagically does everything for you, and won't LET you do anything yourself without a long painstaking process is hella annoying. guess what i need to do to back up and/or migrate my webserver? copy the httpd.conf file and the directory structure and files of the old server to my newly installed box, and wa-la - it works. Automagically! simplicity truly is the better option.
and again, you have windows using all kinds of ridiculous resources and crap you don't need. even stripping windows down does not compare to running a clean linux box.
perhaps for a secretary or someone to administer the company's webserver. I have used windows much longer than linux, but setting up an apache webserver is amazingly simple if you have a basic understanding of the structure and operation of the OS. All you need to do is RTFM (M for Man-page). Apache running on linux has a hell of a lot less overhead than windoze runs on its webserver. I personally find apache easier (even initially) to administer than the beast that is IIS.
i really doubt that's gonna happen. dell is a wintel comany, and the only option you get on these boxes is windows (the machine runs well, it's just a huge waste to run windows on it). dell doesn't have much of an interest in making linux portable to its boxes. then again, if it makes a big enough slashdot and a LOT of people say they are only gonna buy the things if they can port linux to it, they may change their mind. (it's all about the benjamins). Personally, i'd buy one in a heartbeat if i knew i could put linux on it. the price is right, and it's a good product.
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It seems to me that this can also say that by consenting to the agreement, if you use the "site" to obtain a plane ticket, you cannot hold the airline liable for any event arising out of that purchase. Things like death or injury incurred because of the neglegence of the airline could be included on that list.
"So they own everything, yet in the next paragraph they say that whatever you post to the site is fully your responsibility and they have no obligations whatsoever. Now, which will it be ? Is it *their* material or *my* material ?"
Basicly, the theme appears to be (as with almost any corporation), if it's profitable for them, they want the benefits, but not the responsibility. It's sickening that humanity is put behind profit in such ways.
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The operative words are "The company charges". That's how much the company gets paid, not the employee. A company's standard billing rate can be $100 while the actual tech may only see something like $18 of it.
"The company is obviously trying to jump on the media-whore bandwagon"
you have no idea how accurate you are about this company. media whoring is their MO.
ugh. That nasty, watered down "unified" crap that RedHat put out is exactly the reason I STOPPED using their distro. I can't stand their pussy gui config utilities. It's annoying that YellowDog is doing it too.
"you want a man's gun, not no sissy gun like this."
--Jefe, "The Three Amigos"
you've uncovered out secret weapon!!
sh-2.05a$> send spike
i am invincible!!!!
NcongruNt (Team Austin 2600)
some of the g-cipher crew in Austin are working on making an open-source solution. look for it in a couple months.
yeah, i can see it now......
"and here they go, as they race to get each patch downloaded and reboot the server, over and over again before their preparation time is up and the server goes LIVE"
"oh! it's a blue screen of death!"
"and now, to bring out the secret weapon..... THE NIMDA VIRUS!! can the defending team download the patch in time???"
-seriously lame
ianawu (i am not a windows user)
actually, some of the participants have been chased with a taser by the organizer of this event. but it's all in the past... or is it?
it is - in fact - quite entertaining to see. one of the greatest things is that even as a spectator, you can participate. the network is open to anyone who wants to attack. even better, if you participate on a team, it's fun to 0wn every other team out there. there does happen to be some commentary going on during the competition as to what is going on, so that the audience has a good idea as to what is going on. it's really a matter of interest whether on not you find this kind of thing entertaining. personally, i find baseball incredibly boring. hacking competitions, on the other hand, are very entertaining to me. it's very much a competitive team sport.
NcongruNt
Team Austin2600
austin2600.org
then again, i hope people don't charge anyone who has never used the OS to run a server. the argument is invalid. you don't get the janitor to administor the webservers.
again, this is depending on the OS to be recoverable. migrating things in windows between servers is a PITA. then there's registry corruption (oh yes we can back everything up on a floppy, or whatever... until you migrate whatever you want to another server and something 18 levels down doesn't match up and you get a big fat bsod. the fact that windows automagically does everything for you, and won't LET you do anything yourself without a long painstaking process is hella annoying. guess what i need to do to back up and/or migrate my webserver? copy the httpd.conf file and the directory structure and files of the old server to my newly installed box, and wa-la - it works. Automagically! simplicity truly is the better option.
and again, you have windows using all kinds of ridiculous resources and crap you don't need. even stripping windows down does not compare to running a clean linux box.
perhaps for a secretary or someone to administer the company's webserver. I have used windows much longer than linux, but setting up an apache webserver is amazingly simple if you have a basic understanding of the structure and operation of the OS. All you need to do is RTFM (M for Man-page). Apache running on linux has a hell of a lot less overhead than windoze runs on its webserver. I personally find apache easier (even initially) to administer than the beast that is IIS.
i really doubt that's gonna happen. dell is a wintel comany, and the only option you get on these boxes is windows (the machine runs well, it's just a huge waste to run windows on it). dell doesn't have much of an interest in making linux portable to its boxes. then again, if it makes a big enough slashdot and a LOT of people say they are only gonna buy the things if they can port linux to it, they may change their mind. (it's all about the benjamins). Personally, i'd buy one in a heartbeat if i knew i could put linux on it. the price is right, and it's a good product.
You agree to indemnify, defend, and hold harmless American Airlines and its affiliates from and against any and all claims, demands, proceedings, suits and actions, including any related liabilities, obligations, losses, damages, deficiencies, penalties, taxes, levies, fines, judgments, settlements, expenses (including legal and accountants' fees and disbursements) and costs collectively, "Claims"), based on, arising out of or resulting from your use of the Site,
It seems to me that this can also say that by consenting to the agreement, if you use the "site" to obtain a plane ticket, you cannot hold the airline liable for any event arising out of that purchase. Things like death or injury incurred because of the neglegence of the airline could be included on that list.
"So they own everything, yet in the next paragraph they say that whatever you post to the site is fully your responsibility and they have no obligations whatsoever. Now, which will it be ? Is it *their* material or *my* material ?"
Basicly, the theme appears to be (as with almost any corporation), if it's profitable for them, they want the benefits, but not the responsibility. It's sickening that humanity is put behind profit in such ways.