obviously, as im so naive i need explanation as to what you are actually losing by allowing this mostrosity of privacy invasion to happen... any takers? (and please try not to resort to analogies of being naked in the shower and having the plumber that installed it watching you.)
it is my beleif that collection of such information is wrong when done in an underhand fashion - and also (and this is the most important) that companies are not bothered about the INDIVIDUAL but want to know what their TARGET MARKET is up to. yes, ultimately so they can "serve the customer better" and (translated) "make more money" also.
so come one then!! what are you PERSONALLY losing by this happening?
(NB: not flamebait & apologies for the caps - tags seem to be broken)
i stand corrected and should have read the article better:) either way, my argument remains the same - and can be expanded to cookies, store loyalty cards, surveys, street video cameras etc.
To be brutally frank with you kintanon, i really couldn't give a flying f**k who is interested in the trivial minutae of my life. there are plenty more meaningful things in this world to be bothered about.
really, so what? i wish slashdot would stop banging on about this. IMO if you have a "right" to view information on someones web page, the owners have a "right" to maintain a profile of visitors and visitors haibits.
anyone who visits a "jukebox" site and thinks that his/her listening habits is being not being monitored is naive. i mean, what happens when you listen to a real jukebox?
if you dont want your privacy "violated" then dont browse the net, shop, venture outside your house or pretty much anything.
moral trek? same-body-different-head trek? dynasty trek? flagrantly-flout-the-prime-directive-in-every-ep isode-in-the-name-of-what-is-right-and-jus t-(for-humans) trek? equality trek? PC trek?
i used to love star trek, but as i grow older (im 26) i see through it more and more. in all the series the stories are nothing short of lame and the show owes more to exploring their personalirties that it does to exploring space.
credit me with a little intelligence please. I see your point - and also read the article, but... so what? so what if a company can "track my web usage" personally i dont care. good on them! its not like they can get my email address, number of sexual partners, blood group, genome or anything meaty is it?
ohh woopeee! they can see whether ive been to a few web sites (that participate in the banner scheme) woowoo!! they can see i read blues news and slashdot every day!! my god they are really prying into my private life now arent they?
the user id is nothing but an arbitary number - it says nothing about me, private or personal. call me ignorant:O) but surely compiling a demographic profile of users is a small price for all that free info etc...
personally i find banner ads highly irritating, but not enough to bother filtering them. what really bugs me, is the splitting of content to make for higher numbers of pages, therefore increasing "page impressions" and greater frequencies of as viewing.
what if "grampa" wants to take things a little further? like installing software for helping his crossword puzzles or a 3D garden designer?
"well gramps, make sure youve got all the required libraries, run./configure, make, make install.? whats that? 2.0.23? oh shit you need to rcompile your kernel.."
alternatively go to PC world and pick up a bargain from the windows "home software" section...
yeah, linux is good for the GNU generation, but not the Gnold.
let me let you into a secret. when all these people say windows is unstable etc, crashes literally ALL the time etc. they are *lying*
if windows DID actually fall over as much as ppl here say it does, then it would not be fit for its purpose and simply would not sell. windows has MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of installed seats. do people REALLY think it crashes simply by staring at it too hard? grow up.
granted, all OSs have hardware and software problems, and problems caused by the clueless being, well, clueless:) but windows is no more or less dogged by these problems than any other OS.
in my opinion, problems with the "OS" usually spawn from an interfacing problem in between the chair and the keyboard.
obviously, as im so naive i need explanation as to what you are actually losing by allowing this mostrosity of privacy invasion to happen... any takers? (and please try not to resort to analogies of being naked in the shower and having the plumber that installed it watching you.)
it is my beleif that collection of such information is wrong when done in an underhand fashion - and also (and this is the most important) that companies are not bothered about the INDIVIDUAL but want to know what their TARGET MARKET is up to. yes, ultimately so they can "serve the customer better" and (translated) "make more money" also.
so come one then!! what are you PERSONALLY losing by this happening?
(NB: not flamebait & apologies for the caps - tags seem to be broken)
:O) i'm sure you knew what i meant
i stand corrected and should have read the article better :) either way, my argument remains the same - and can be expanded to cookies, store loyalty cards, surveys, street video cameras etc.
To be brutally frank with you kintanon, i really couldn't give a flying f**k who is interested in the trivial minutae of my life. there are plenty more meaningful things in this world to be bothered about.
pardon me guys, but flamebait?
thanks to the people who took my point as a valid one for discussion. sorry for not toe-ing the party line, slashdot.
not all of us who read this site are brainless sheep. i am disappointed.
really, so what? i wish slashdot would stop banging on about this. IMO if you have a "right" to view information on someones web page, the owners have a "right" to maintain a profile of visitors and visitors haibits.
anyone who visits a "jukebox" site and thinks that his/her listening habits is being not being monitored is naive. i mean, what happens when you listen to a real jukebox?
if you dont want your privacy "violated" then dont browse the net, shop, venture outside your house or pretty much anything.
moral trek?p isode-in-the-name-of-what-is-right-and-jus t-(for-humans) trek?
same-body-different-head trek?
dynasty trek?
flagrantly-flout-the-prime-directive-in-every-e
equality trek?
PC trek?
i used to love star trek, but as i grow older (im 26) i see through it more and more. in all the series the stories are nothing short of lame and the show owes more to exploring their personalirties that it does to exploring space.
gimme B5 any day.
cracker = cheese oriented biscuit. i'll bet that slienced a lot of folks here :p
:O) ROFL.
you have made an otherwise dull friday so much better by that comment
>The good thing about Larry
:O)
>is.....ummmm...well....
his immaculate dress sense
as far as the UI is concerned, Gnome/KDE are still very poor relations of windows and IMO will remain so for quite sime time.
NB- this is not a troll. i use all three often, and this is an objective opinion.
credit me with a little intelligence please. I see your point - and also read the article, but... so what? so what if a company can "track my web usage" personally i dont care. good on them! its not like they can get my email address, number of sexual partners, blood group, genome or anything meaty is it?
ohh woopeee! they can see whether ive been to a few web sites (that participate in the banner scheme) woowoo!! they can see i read blues news and slashdot every day!! my god they are really prying into my private life now arent they?
no.
most "privacy advocates" are that way so that other people can't tie their paranoid and ll-informed views to an email address
we wenrent talking about people seeing you naked, why did you have to bring that up? or do you sweep your bathroom before every shower?
the user id is nothing but an arbitary number - it says nothing about me, private or personal. call me ignorant :O) but surely compiling a demographic profile of users is a small price for all that free info etc...
personally i find banner ads highly irritating, but not enough to bother filtering them. what really bugs me, is the splitting of content to make for higher numbers of pages, therefore increasing "page impressions" and greater frequencies of as viewing.
why do people seem to think cookies are some form of spying?
it will run on Lunatix. the OS of choice for /. users.
tongue(cheek);
>a 2 m long star destroyer (or whatever they are
>called) for a convent of some kind... A dream,
>isn't it?
What would a bunch of nuns want with a 2m long star destroyer?
>I don't think it's possible to know what the
>longterm effects, of the introduction of
>geneticly modified creatures, on our environment
>will be.
its called evolution. it happens all the time.
what if "grampa" wants to take things a little further? like installing software for helping his crossword puzzles or a 3D garden designer?
./configure, make, make install.? whats that? 2.0.23? oh shit you need to rcompile your kernel.."
"well gramps, make sure youve got all the required libraries, run
alternatively go to PC world and pick up a bargain from the windows "home software" section...
yeah, linux is good for the GNU generation, but not the Gnold.
i think you just made that up mate :)
let me let you into a secret. when all these people say windows is unstable etc, crashes literally ALL the time etc. they are *lying*
:) but windows is no more or less dogged by these problems than any other OS.
if windows DID actually fall over as much as ppl here say it does, then it would not be fit for its purpose and simply would not sell. windows has MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of installed seats. do people REALLY think it crashes simply by staring at it too hard? grow up.
granted, all OSs have hardware and software problems, and problems caused by the clueless being, well, clueless
in my opinion, problems with the "OS" usually spawn from an interfacing problem in between the chair and the keyboard.
you can turn active desktop off, you know?!
i think an UPS for grandad is going it a bit!! jeez.
it comes in an assortment of colours too, so it MUST be better!!
>The only other problem is finding enough TV's to
....
>support the networked DCs.
or just have several DCs and one TV for a
(wait for it)
...BeoCast!
Its interesting to note that the only linux reference (i could find) on the site is preceded with an apology....
:)
i remember the first time i did a 'cpio --help' i just sat there and laughed at the output.
exactly. this community redefined the terms but neglected to tell anyone - then people get irritated when the media use the word "hacker".