It requires all goods and services to be luxuries. example: supply and demand goes out the window when life is on the line.
It requires infinite markets. example: the job market. In order to subscribe to libertarian dogma, you must always be able to 'just go out and get another job'.
It requires immortality so that the market will have time to adjust/equalize.
It requires one to ignore that government regulation can be the result of market abuse in even nominally democratic governments like ours.
It requires one to forget that the closer we've gotten to free markets in history, the worse things have been for the bulk of the people.
"The gas industry needs to seriously review the precautions they are supposed to be taking and see if they are truly being responsible corporate citizens."
We fight hard so that citizens have no responsibilities. Corporate citizens have fewer responsibilities than individuals now, and our right wing is fighting hard to remove the burden of THOSE (and why not? Corps have earned their privileges, and have proven how trustworthy they are time and again, just ask any good 'Party man - if a corporation does anything wrong, its always damned socialists that MADE them do it)
Of course it SAYS socialism all over the place; that means it really really IS about socialism - just like 'Obama is a socialist' and 'regulating business is socialist'. Right?
If the PEOPLE in western PA are complaining, maybe your adolescent "the lack of work and wealth in Western Pa. is a far greater risk to human health than a little feckin-A methane in drinking water" wouldn't even be reported.
Why do I doubt you are drinking kool-aid made with that contaminated water?
Privately funded FIOS? You mean Verizon never accepted the billions in tax break for putting in fiber? You mean they got rights to run the fiber by negotiating with each individual property-owner?
ROFL. The only way we'd have service at all is with these monopolies.
One of the major problems we have is free market weenies trying to free monopolies of any restraints. And in the name of 'competition', too! Bwahahaha!
So. separate infrastructure for each competitor? The infrastructure would, of course magically just be there, and without government intervention, the first lessee/row purchaser would OF COURSE never sign any exclusive agreements. And a single recalcitrant user would NEVER hold an entire industry or block hostage for a lease/row.
In the free market fantasy, NOBODY ever gets ANY service.
"Corporations also require participation in them - it's called cash-flow"
Yes. Of course, abstaining from voting (spending) is at best half as effective as voting for your competition. And competition is about ELIMINATING competition, either through collusion or elimination - and with no competition, abstention from spending has very little effect. The end result of an unregulated market is no market at all, with consumers required to pay arbitrary prices to obtain any goods and services.
would be free market economics - it fails harder the closer markets come to it, but the excuse used for those failures is always that the market wasn't free enough...
The race card does NOT wear out when applied to actual racism. "The Big Lie" is not a valid way of proving things - though receptive audiences might accept the argument as 'won'.
Lobbyists are the tools of democracy, to a free marketeer. It's how business (represented by $$) make their demands... er.. wishes known. One dollar, one vote. Money is all that matters.
Yes because without regulations, barriers to entry vanish like the wind! Property holders offer up their land for free so cables can be run, thus foiling local monopolies. 'First in' companies for new tech would never sign exclusive contracts with property holders, and enlightened carriers would make money by allowing all to profit from existing lines and never, ever sabotage their own customers in attempts to capture end users and take all the profits.
Monopoly is foiled, hurrah!
Face it, if there was the free market your dogma dictates, we wouldn't have cars, freeways, or even telephones. All railroads would have different standard sizes and signalling standards, the only way to GET those standards would be to succeed in monopolizing an industry - and the claim that monopolies are benificial in an unregulated world where the government just gets out of the way is ridiculous as well - guess what - new and better products at lower prices would simply be bought out, crushed or otherwise suppressed.
Your economic dogma would place us all back in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, technology, medically, socially, economically, and militarily.
And the bulk of the people wouldn't even be happy - remember, monopoly abuses provoke riots - sometimes with shotguns. Corporations hired private armies (pinkertons, wells fargo) as well.
Yup. The home-economics sciences are wide open for females! There's no educational bias against 'em going into STEM, no-sir-ee-bob. You can tell by the equal representation they have in all fields involving STEM!
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Which means items that use the Apache license are not open.
That IS what you just said, right?
It requires all goods and services to be luxuries. example: supply and demand goes out the window when life is on the line.
It requires infinite markets. example: the job market. In order to subscribe to libertarian dogma, you must always be able to 'just go out and get another job'.
It requires immortality so that the market will have time to adjust/equalize.
It requires one to ignore that government regulation can be the result of market abuse in even nominally democratic governments like ours.
It requires one to forget that the closer we've gotten to free markets in history, the worse things have been for the bulk of the people.
"The gas industry needs to seriously review the precautions they are supposed to be taking and see if they are truly being responsible corporate citizens."
We fight hard so that citizens have no responsibilities. Corporate citizens have fewer responsibilities than individuals now, and our right wing is fighting hard to remove the burden of THOSE (and why not? Corps have earned their privileges, and have proven how trustworthy they are time and again, just ask any good 'Party man - if a corporation does anything wrong, its always damned socialists that MADE them do it)
Even with all that gas to power the distillation equipment?
*chuckle*
Of course it SAYS socialism all over the place; that means it really really IS about socialism - just like 'Obama is a socialist' and 'regulating business is socialist'. Right?
If the PEOPLE in western PA are complaining, maybe your adolescent "the lack of work and wealth in Western Pa. is a far greater risk to human health than a little feckin-A methane in drinking water" wouldn't even be reported.
Why do I doubt you are drinking kool-aid made with that contaminated water?
Sure that's the reason. Regs don't EVER serve a purpose, and were never relevant to problems the people demanded resolution for.
After all, government is all arbitrary, and business exists to benefit the people. /s
Butbutbut! Job.killing.regulations.energy.independence.gas.fo.ramericans.competition.no.more.epa.necessary.i.want.cheap.fuel.the.market.will.adjust.TRUST.US!
Right - but both need regulation if markets are to be healthy.
You made me smile just now, BTW. Thanks. I needed to know there are at least a few out there that don't think extreme=virtue.
Privately funded FIOS? You mean Verizon never accepted the billions in tax break for putting in fiber? You mean they got rights to run the fiber by negotiating with each individual property-owner?
Wow. Pass that over here. I need some.
Written by an author that abused social security users while accepting it quite happily herself?
ROFL. The only way we'd have service at all is with these monopolies.
One of the major problems we have is free market weenies trying to free monopolies of any restraints. And in the name of 'competition', too! Bwahahaha!
Wow. How naive.
So. separate infrastructure for each competitor? The infrastructure would, of course magically just be there, and without government intervention, the first lessee/row purchaser would OF COURSE never sign any exclusive agreements. And a single recalcitrant user would NEVER hold an entire industry or block hostage for a lease/row.
In the free market fantasy, NOBODY ever gets ANY service.
You free marketeers are funny.
"Corporations also require participation in them - it's called cash-flow"
Yes. Of course, abstaining from voting (spending) is at best half as effective as voting for your competition. And competition is about ELIMINATING competition, either through collusion or elimination - and with no competition, abstention from spending has very little effect. The end result of an unregulated market is no market at all, with consumers required to pay arbitrary prices to obtain any goods and services.
That _IS_ the free market. The 'invisible hand' is you, working through your elected officials. 'Free Marketeers' that claim otherwise are dishonest.
Of course! The right will ensure that we are all without hope, forever and ever, world without end, amen.
Hopeless and changeless. That IS your goal, right, righty?
would be free market economics - it fails harder the closer markets come to it, but the excuse used for those failures is always that the market wasn't free enough...
*chuckle*
has a policy of making deals with (economic) terrorists.
Great.
The race card does NOT wear out when applied to actual racism. "The Big Lie" is not a valid way of proving things - though receptive audiences might accept the argument as 'won'.
Yes. The reasons WHY they are racists might be complicated.
Yes! My god, a reasonable poster! *SMILE*
Lobbyists are the tools of democracy, to a free marketeer. It's how business (represented by $$) make their demands... er.. wishes known. One dollar, one vote. Money is all that matters.
Of course the alternative was to NOT have service at all.
Not that free marketeers think that far.
Yes because without regulations, barriers to entry vanish like the wind! Property holders offer up their land for free so cables can be run, thus foiling local monopolies. 'First in' companies for new tech would never sign exclusive contracts with property holders, and enlightened carriers would make money by allowing all to profit from existing lines and never, ever sabotage their own customers in attempts to capture end users and take all the profits.
Monopoly is foiled, hurrah!
Face it, if there was the free market your dogma dictates, we wouldn't have cars, freeways, or even telephones. All railroads would have different standard sizes and signalling standards, the only way to GET those standards would be to succeed in monopolizing an industry - and the claim that monopolies are benificial in an unregulated world where the government just gets out of the way is ridiculous as well - guess what - new and better products at lower prices would simply be bought out, crushed or otherwise suppressed.
Your economic dogma would place us all back in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, technology, medically, socially, economically, and militarily.
And the bulk of the people wouldn't even be happy - remember, monopoly abuses provoke riots - sometimes with shotguns. Corporations hired private armies (pinkertons, wells fargo) as well.
What a paradise!
Yup. The home-economics sciences are wide open for females! There's no educational bias against 'em going into STEM, no-sir-ee-bob. You can tell by the equal representation they have in all fields involving STEM!