From MSN: THE ROSTER OF PRODUCTS to be dropped includes SQL Server 7, Office XP Developer, Windows 98, and a number of Office 2000-related tools and patches.
Microsoft said it will update Java-compliant versions of some products by the end of December, including Office XP Professional with FrontPage, Publisher 2002, Windows NT 4.0 and Small Business Server 2000.
From the Subscriber site: Subscriber Download content will be retired on December 23rd Due to a settlement agreement reached in January 2001, Microsoft is phasing out the Microsoft Virtual Machine from its products. As of 12:01 AM Pacific Time December 23rd, 2003, we will phase out several product families, and remove the Microsoft Virtual Machine from others. The major product families that will no longer be available are:
BackOffice Server 2000 MapPoint 2002 Office 2000 Suite and Products Office XP Developer SQL Server 7.0 Windows 98
Although these products will no longer be available for distribution from Microsoft, they can still be used in accordance with the terms of your MSDN Subscription license agreement.
Additionally: ISA Server 2000 is the current version of the software and the new upcoming version is still in beta.
This was also featured on zdnet last friday. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2314 107,00.html Another site (I can't recall who) had a quoute from a MS executive denying that that they have proven it was from an employee and even if it was it was not MS's idea.
Linux is not the only os to be 'benchmarked' againest nt and lose.Netware and Solaris we also 'defeated' by nt in Mindcraft benchmarketing. Here is part of Novell's Response- Mindcraft's "A File Server Comparison: Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 and Novell NetWare 5" For the second time, Mindcraft, Inc. has published a product comparison of dubious origin, unprofessional methods and biased results. Novell is embarrassed to respond to such prejudiced work, but does have an obligation to inform the market of the facts and publish its own benchmarks with accurate and reproducible results. Novell Advantage Home NetWare 5 KeyLab's Benchmark Report resulted in similiar findings as Mindcraft's benchmark.
DUBIOUS ORIGIN Novell has contacted Mindcraft in an effort to determine the sponsor of this "research," but Mindcraft officials declined to disclose that information. Novell did not sponsor this project. UNPROFESSIONAL METHODS (1) Standard benchmarking practices were violated. For a NetBench benchmark to be considered publishable in a Ziff-Davis publication, there are two requirements that are absent in the Mindcraft results: (1) standard test configurations must be used, and (2) three test runs must be averaged to get the results. The standard NetBench test suite was not used, and no effort was made to demonstrate that Mindcraft's alternate settings produced equivalent results. Regarding the averaging of three separate test runs, Mindcraft replied that they ran series of tests tuning the systems until they were satisfied with them. After they were done tuning, they took the results of the final test.
Here is the URL that disects the 'tests'. http://www.novell.com/advantage/nw5/nw5-mindcraftc heck.html
Here is another that refers to fake/legit benchmarking http://www.novell.com/advantage/nw5/nw5-bogus.html
The following is a response I sent. It does not deal with any technical issues because I'm a newbie to Linux. Maybe others could send non flame emails to them requesting them to either publicly respond or acknowledge legitimate questions.
Unbiased.. Sure Ok. Could you please post on your website (or direct me to where it is at if it is there) the company that commissioned the test as well as the unbiased benchmarks against Solaris and NetWare. In addition how much did the outside company pay for your unbiased benchmark and what percentage of this accounts for your current revenue. In other words how dependent on it are you for the survival and profitability of your company? If none of this is possible just post this terrible email along with the others on your net rage page.
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FYI: This post and list are fake:
From MSN:
THE ROSTER OF PRODUCTS to be dropped includes SQL Server 7, Office XP Developer, Windows 98, and a number of Office 2000-related tools and patches.
Microsoft said it will update Java-compliant versions of some products by the end of
December, including Office XP Professional with FrontPage, Publisher 2002, Windows NT 4.0 and Small Business Server 2000.
From the Subscriber site:
Subscriber Download content will be retired on December 23rd
Due to a settlement agreement reached in January 2001, Microsoft is phasing out the Microsoft Virtual Machine from its products. As of 12:01 AM Pacific Time December 23rd, 2003, we will phase out several product families, and remove the Microsoft Virtual Machine from others. The major product families that will no longer be available are:
BackOffice Server 2000
MapPoint 2002
Office 2000 Suite and Products
Office XP Developer
SQL Server 7.0
Windows 98
Although these products will no longer be available for distribution from Microsoft, they can still be used in accordance with the terms of your MSDN Subscription license agreement.
Additionally: ISA Server 2000 is the current version of the software and the new upcoming version is still in beta.
This was also featured on zdnet last friday.4 107,00.html
;)
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,231
Another site (I can't recall who) had a quoute from a MS executive denying that that they have proven it was from an employee and even if it was it was not MS's idea.
Obvilously they are completely innocent
Actually That would be HP
(with the kung fu grip;)
The following is a response I sent. It does not deal with any technical issues because I'm a newbie to Linux. Maybe others could send non flame emails to them requesting them to either publicly respond or acknowledge legitimate questions.
Unbiased.. Sure Ok.
Could you please post on your website (or direct me to where it is at if it is there) the company that commissioned the test as well as the unbiased benchmarks against Solaris and NetWare. In addition how much did the outside company pay for your unbiased benchmark and what percentage of this accounts for your current revenue. In other words how dependent on it are you for the survival and profitability of your company?
If none of this is possible just post this terrible email along with the others on your net rage page.
Sincerely,
J Forrester