but let's not pretend that there is a magical thermometer we can stick in the air, and get the current Global Average Temperature
Who is pretending? HARRY_READ_ME clearly demonstrates how difficult it is to consolidate disparate historical records. Jones and his crew have spent the last 20yrs sorting it out, if you can spot a genuine error I'm sure they would be glad to hear from you.
At best, [evolution is] over-reliant on proxy data, and *everyone* should be skeptical of that sort of weak science.
Doing a lot of climate modeling on Mars, are you? =)
Not personally, but others do.
By your own reference, he is a professional climatologist that works for NASA as a team leader and senior scientist
Yes he's a climatologist, no he no longer works at NASA but he is on the board of directors of the George C. Marshall Institute. So maybe he's a shill rather than a quack?
He is however due some credit for collecting the data that confirmed climate model predictions of stratospheric cooling, despite the fact he drew the wrong conclusions from that data.
Funny how a chemist in a totally unrelated field can show how an entire branch of science is BS.
What you're claiming here is that Fourier was an idiot and that the spectral analysis techniques he discovered are wrong, which in turn implies much of astronomy and quantum mechanics is wrong. So if you don't mind I will stick to Fourier's BS equation for CO2 forcing (5.35ln(C0/C1)) which has been tested to death over the last 200yrs, rather than dump it and much of modern physics because of the inflated ego of a slashdot chemist.
Input, in this case was the collected data from weather stations, satellites, ice cores, tree rings, etc.
The historical weather record is not used as input it is used to test the model via hind-casting. The inputs to the models are things such as the strength of gravity, the composition of the atmosphere, the absorption spectra of GHG's, the shape of the Earth's geode, etc. The 'logic" is the laws of physics and chemistry. The algothim that brings them together is called finite element analysis and is used on everything from designing casts for engine blocks to building bridges for them to drive across.
As for TFA, the author of the paper, Roy Spencer, is a creationist quack who has expanded his quackery into AGW, his claims on anything scientific should be taken with a truckload of salt.
How many is "Mountains of FOIA requests"? One? Because they refused to supply anything at all right from the start.
According to the various formal investigations, there were 50 something FOI requests over a 2 day period from the lovely folk at climate audit, most of them were requests for information that was already published so clearly they were not interested in doing any research. Phil Jones and his crew had every right to bitch and complain about such an obvious abuse of the justice system, however Jones overstepped the line in his reaction when he asked Mann to delete some emails (Mann ignored him).
As has been explained a billion times and discussed at great length in the formal investigations, the "hidden" data that was a couple of percent of the entire data set was under non-disclosure agreements so a tarball was not an option. One of the formal investigations also explains how it's 'layman' members were able to source copies of the "hidden" data in 48 hours simply by contacting the references given in papers published by Jones and his team (ie: basic research)
This article explains they have now done the legal legwork and are free of the constraints that prevented publication of something that has fuck all impact from a scientific POV.
Your example is where relativity does not act like common experience, what happens is the person in the space ship sees the pulse move away at the speed of light, the observer sees is the spece ship and the pulse arrive at the same time.
Quantum entanglement still occurs and results in faster-than-light data transmission
Partly true, no information is passed FTL
This doesn't disprove causality
As I understand it cusality in the quantum world can be broken, eg: electron-positron pairs are spontaneously created and then promptly anihlate each other, they do this by "borrowing" energy from the immediate future and "paying it back" with the anihalation.
I quit using youtube in a signed in fashion when they insisted I connect with a gmail account
No, you don't need a gmail account for YT, just a google account which can have an alias and any old email. I've never used my google account for anything except to sign into YT and I don't have a gmail account.
Since you're posting AC you're probably not interested in releaving you're ignorance by actually reading a reply let alone the citation, but here goes anyway.The GP is speculating about the climatic effects from changes in albedo that a large infux of water would produce.
I think they are mostly testing for different skills even though they might not even realize it, themselves.
I think you hit the nail on the head, they do the whiteboard/trivia things simply becuse they have seen other people do it, they have never stopped to think why they are doing it.
I'm an old fart, I use the "conversational and BS-detecting" style, people who really do know their stuff will be able to convince me they are worth hiring in a 5-10 minute conversation. However those applicants are a rare pleasure, more often than not you just need a competent chair to keyboard adaptor. If I have doubts I use the whiteboard, if someone cannot get up and talk me through something we supposedly both know well, they ARE toast. To me the whiteboard thing is a tool for evaluating communication skills that may not be apparent in the conversation, a genius who cannot communicate their ideas to others is worthless in a commercial setting. When in doubt I also ask a barrage of technical trivia questions, not to test memory/knowledge but to find out if the person is willing to give bullshit answers instead of the magic words; "I don't know but I could find out".
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but let's not pretend that there is a magical thermometer we can stick in the air, and get the current Global Average Temperature
Who is pretending? HARRY_READ_ME clearly demonstrates how difficult it is to consolidate disparate historical records. Jones and his crew have spent the last 20yrs sorting it out, if you can spot a genuine error I'm sure they would be glad to hear from you.
At best, [evolution is] over-reliant on proxy data, and *everyone* should be skeptical of that sort of weak science.
'nuff said.
maybe that's because of code like this
Since that code didn't make it into 'production', I very much doubt it.
Finite Element Analysis is not an algorithm, it is a general method.
Hate to burst your pedantic bubble, but an algorithm is a "general method".
Doing a lot of climate modeling on Mars, are you? =)
Not personally, but others do.
By your own reference, he is a professional climatologist that works for NASA as a team leader and senior scientist
Yes he's a climatologist, no he no longer works at NASA but he is on the board of directors of the George C. Marshall Institute. So maybe he's a shill rather than a quack? He is however due some credit for collecting the data that confirmed climate model predictions of stratospheric cooling, despite the fact he drew the wrong conclusions from that data.
Spencer's track record in science is EVIDENCE of his quackery.
The precautionary principle
Funny how a chemist in a totally unrelated field can show how an entire branch of science is BS.
What you're claiming here is that Fourier was an idiot and that the spectral analysis techniques he discovered are wrong, which in turn implies much of astronomy and quantum mechanics is wrong. So if you don't mind I will stick to Fourier's BS equation for CO2 forcing (5.35ln(C0/C1)) which has been tested to death over the last 200yrs, rather than dump it and much of modern physics because of the inflated ego of a slashdot chemist.
Input, in this case was the collected data from weather stations, satellites, ice cores, tree rings, etc.
The historical weather record is not used as input it is used to test the model via hind-casting. The inputs to the models are things such as the strength of gravity, the composition of the atmosphere, the absorption spectra of GHG's, the shape of the Earth's geode, etc. The 'logic" is the laws of physics and chemistry. The algothim that brings them together is called finite element analysis and is used on everything from designing casts for engine blocks to building bridges for them to drive across.
As for TFA, the author of the paper, Roy Spencer, is a creationist quack who has expanded his quackery into AGW, his claims on anything scientific should be taken with a truckload of salt.
How many is "Mountains of FOIA requests"? One? Because they refused to supply anything at all right from the start.
According to the various formal investigations, there were 50 something FOI requests over a 2 day period from the lovely folk at climate audit, most of them were requests for information that was already published so clearly they were not interested in doing any research. Phil Jones and his crew had every right to bitch and complain about such an obvious abuse of the justice system, however Jones overstepped the line in his reaction when he asked Mann to delete some emails (Mann ignored him).
As has been explained a billion times and discussed at great length in the formal investigations, the "hidden" data that was a couple of percent of the entire data set was under non-disclosure agreements so a tarball was not an option. One of the formal investigations also explains how it's 'layman' members were able to source copies of the "hidden" data in 48 hours simply by contacting the references given in papers published by Jones and his team (ie: basic research)
This article explains they have now done the legal legwork and are free of the constraints that prevented publication of something that has fuck all impact from a scientific POV.
Quantum entanglement still occurs and results in faster-than-light data transmission
Partly true, no information is passed FTL
This doesn't disprove causality
As I understand it cusality in the quantum world can be broken, eg: electron-positron pairs are spontaneously created and then promptly anihlate each other, they do this by "borrowing" energy from the immediate future and "paying it back" with the anihalation.
I quit using youtube in a signed in fashion when they insisted I connect with a gmail account
No, you don't need a gmail account for YT, just a google account which can have an alias and any old email. I've never used my google account for anything except to sign into YT and I don't have a gmail account.
Since you're posting AC you're probably not interested in releaving you're ignorance by actually reading a reply let alone the citation, but here goes anyway.The GP is speculating about the climatic effects from changes in albedo that a large infux of water would produce.
The other major change in Aussie homes is that I haven't seen a "pan man" since I was a kid in the 60's.
you're guilty until you prove your innocent
...because it would be unfair to put an innocent person on trial.
I'm speaking from personal experience of 3 people I've known. Alcohol and Zoloft don't mix, it has the opposite effect to Zoloft alone.
I also hold the opinion that older programmers who were typically maths graduates are far more skilled than the younger "computer science" graduates
Hmmmm, I got my CS degree 20yrs ago (as a 30yo student), most of it was maths and operations research (more maths).
I think they are mostly testing for different skills even though they might not even realize it, themselves.
I think you hit the nail on the head, they do the whiteboard/trivia things simply becuse they have seen other people do it, they have never stopped to think why they are doing it.
I'm an old fart, I use the "conversational and BS-detecting" style, people who really do know their stuff will be able to convince me they are worth hiring in a 5-10 minute conversation. However those applicants are a rare pleasure, more often than not you just need a competent chair to keyboard adaptor. If I have doubts I use the whiteboard, if someone cannot get up and talk me through something we supposedly both know well, they ARE toast. To me the whiteboard thing is a tool for evaluating communication skills that may not be apparent in the conversation, a genius who cannot communicate their ideas to others is worthless in a commercial setting. When in doubt I also ask a barrage of technical trivia questions, not to test memory/knowledge but to find out if the person is willing to give bullshit answers instead of the magic words; "I don't know but I could find out".
You're right: No where in what you quoted does it say to withdraw a link to them from Google's search engine.
What part of 'from all their sites' are you failing to comprehend?
Robots.txt is not a solution to their problem. The problem they have is falling revenue, the solution they want is a slice of google pie.
Maybe those people are crazy because they're OVERmedicated?
Zoloft + alcohol = crazy fucker.
There's nothing wrong with the headline, it's not your fault that a bunch of slashdotters failed their poetic license test.
Looks like he strained his noodle.
When I was a kid, 'downhill' was just a mathematical curiosity.
Speaking of the summary, who the hell are "better funded" than the US military?
Which western governments still build and run power stations with taxpayer money?