Can you point to where ALL this fossil evidence that supposedly "proves" evolution is held. What about Piltdown man doesn't that invalidate the rest of the fossils? Please don't point to the tens of thousands of papers and the godless "scientific community" who invariably fail to question the basic premise of evolution becuase the discovery institute has already debunked them using nothing more than a bannana./sarcasm
Just case the sarcasm is too subtle.
The "missing raw data" is not neatly compiled into an easily acceessible database. It is held by countless weather and archival centers around the world, some of whom are unwilling to share unless you are willing to jump through hoops and wait months. It is on paper, in diaries, incompatable data bases, microfilm, ancient computer tapes, you name it. Anyone remotely familiar with the enourmous effort by Phil Jones and others to painstakingly collate, correct, and open up the HADCrut data set cannot help but see "climategate" for the witch hunt that it is.
A few days before the story broke a hacker took control of the realclimate.org site and posted a file containing the emails (reported on realclimate.org). Since then, some of the scientists at realclimate have recieved death threats that are currently under investigation by the FBI (reported on ABC Australia). There have also been reports of people impersonating IT staff at a Canadian climate research center.
Perhaps I have been wrong about the conspiracy theorists, maybe they have a point but just got it backwards.
A couple of years ago I saw an interview here in Oz with the russian finance minister/treasurer (not sure of the title or if he still has the job). Anyhow, the guy is not only an economic alarmist he is the Russian equivalent of Senator Inhofe, ie: a raving anti-science lunatic.
"Yeah, way to skip right over the actual allegation."
Have you ever noticed how much fater and less onerous it is to make a loud baseles allegation than it is to defend against one?
If the CRU letters are any indication, I guess this is how "science" is done these days, now, anyway.
Oh please, these people are not scientists they are scum sucking lobbyists. Personally I've been waiting over a decade for the so called "skeptics" to come up with a model or even a paper that shows "global cooling" or gives a credible alternative to the cause of the observed warming signal. The so called "skeptics" and their obfuscatory methods and claims can usually be tracked to far-right economic think tanks such as the CEI, Heartland institute, or in this case the IEA.
These people have as much credibility as the tabacoo CEO's who got up one after the other at the tobacoo trials and said "I do not belive smoking causes cancer". Matter of fact the Heartland Institute is where these CEO's got much of their "science". But hey, don't listen to what virtually every scientific institution on the planet is telling you, just keep thoses fingers in your ears and carry on parroting Anthony Watts in the interests of "fair and balanced" science.
Not the first time something like that has happened. Rock spiders love the term "sex offender", it dilutes the gravity of their crimes by lumping them together with streakers, public urinators, etc. IIRC one of the main congressional supporters of the sex offender list in the US was caught sending sexually expicit messages to 13-15yo boys serving as interns.
Well done for passing the test and for being able to put yourself in the bosses shoes and see why it was required. However from what I understand Childs was not the sole person in possession of the passwords until he changed them.
I'm not really fussed about karma since mine has been stuck on excellent for the last 10yrs???? However I have noticed that one liners normally attract a lot more mods, perhaps because they are simple to digest.
For example my one liner above (about the law and childs both being an ass) is currently 40% insightfull, 40% Overrated, 10% Troll. That would seem to indicate it has been modded at least ten times, yet it has only gone down one point from the original +2 score.
"It's widely accepted that octopuses are probably more intelligent than any other invertebrates. That's a long way from putting them on the same level as primates."
An octopus can solve the "unscrew the lid to get the treat in a jar" problem faster than any other creature except for humans. It's not that they are smarter or dumber than vertebrates, just very different.
WTF, did you answer the wrong post? Where did I suggest giving the government abritray powers? If I suggested anything at all it was to remove the existing arbitrary power that a solitary AG can weild over the entire nation.
"The Communications Minister, Stephen Conroy, said today he would introduce legislation just before next year's elections to force ISPs to block a blacklist of "refused classification" (RC) websites for all Australian internet users."
That conclusive enough for you?:(
No, where does he say a mandatory filter is a good idea? He can introduce whatever he likes, he knows as well as everyone else it's not going to be passed by the senate.
The reason he is leaving it until just before the election is that it has alresy been rejected once by the senate, if it were to be rejected again then it becomes a double dissolution trigger. I'm sure as hell they don't want that outcome.
If you are about to point to Labor's pre-election policy paper you will note that the compulsory filter mentioned in it only applies to government computers (ie: schools, libraries, etc).
Yeah right, I have been hearing that for over a decade now, I will believe it when I see it. The filter is political theater to buy the votes of wacko independent senators. The Libs and Labor take turns at being good cop or bad cop.
Even Mr. 2% has gone cold on the idea since the web sites of his anti-abortion financiers somehow made it on to the propsed blacklist. In other words Mr 2% has been nicely shot down by a classical ad-absurdium argument. However that won't stop some other idiot doing the same thing when he believes he holds the balance of power in the senate and it won't help educate people who still take the game seriously.
If you doubt me then point to where Conroy has said a compulsory filter is a good idea. I've been asking that question on slasdot since the current round of trials began and the only quotes I ever get are where he is saying the trial is a good thing.
"Yes Minister" is a documentry that just happens to be funny.
When all the other state gov's and the Fedral gov are aligned against him and they open a public enquiry, it's a forgone conclusion he will be overruled in one way or another.
In a commercial environment all those options would take a considerable amount of time to implement so you're still stuck with the outage unless you had the foresight to do it before things went wrong. The only real advantage to OSS here is that it doesn't require activation in the first place.
# - True, but only if said lieutenant had the authority to override department policy on the matter in the first place.
He had authority over the sergeant, it's no different to a mid-level boss telling his underlings they can knock of half an hour earlier today because (say) the network is down, and then the upper level boss sacking the lot of them for goofing off.
Can you point to where ALL this fossil evidence that supposedly "proves" evolution is held. What about Piltdown man doesn't that invalidate the rest of the fossils? Please don't point to the tens of thousands of papers and the godless "scientific community" who invariably fail to question the basic premise of evolution becuase the discovery institute has already debunked them using nothing more than a bannana. /sarcasm
Just case the sarcasm is too subtle.
The "missing raw data" is not neatly compiled into an easily acceessible database. It is held by countless weather and archival centers around the world, some of whom are unwilling to share unless you are willing to jump through hoops and wait months. It is on paper, in diaries, incompatable data bases, microfilm, ancient computer tapes, you name it. Anyone remotely familiar with the enourmous effort by Phil Jones and others to painstakingly collate, correct, and open up the HADCrut data set cannot help but see "climategate" for the witch hunt that it is.
A few days before the story broke a hacker took control of the realclimate.org site and posted a file containing the emails (reported on realclimate.org). Since then, some of the scientists at realclimate have recieved death threats that are currently under investigation by the FBI (reported on ABC Australia). There have also been reports of people impersonating IT staff at a Canadian climate research center.
Perhaps I have been wrong about the conspiracy theorists, maybe they have a point but just got it backwards.
A couple of years ago I saw an interview here in Oz with the russian finance minister/treasurer (not sure of the title or if he still has the job). Anyhow, the guy is not only an economic alarmist he is the Russian equivalent of Senator Inhofe, ie: a raving anti-science lunatic.
"Yeah, way to skip right over the actual allegation."
Have you ever noticed how much fater and less onerous it is to make a loud baseles allegation than it is to defend against one?
If the CRU letters are any indication, I guess this is how "science" is done these days, now, anyway.
Oh please, these people are not scientists they are scum sucking lobbyists. Personally I've been waiting over a decade for the so called "skeptics" to come up with a model or even a paper that shows "global cooling" or gives a credible alternative to the cause of the observed warming signal. The so called "skeptics" and their obfuscatory methods and claims can usually be tracked to far-right economic think tanks such as the CEI, Heartland institute, or in this case the IEA.
These people have as much credibility as the tabacoo CEO's who got up one after the other at the tobacoo trials and said "I do not belive smoking causes cancer". Matter of fact the Heartland Institute is where these CEO's got much of their "science". But hey, don't listen to what virtually every scientific institution on the planet is telling you, just keep thoses fingers in your ears and carry on parroting Anthony Watts in the interests of "fair and balanced" science.
Chemical castration was practiced in most western countries including the US. Alan Turing was a victim of the UK version due to his homosexuality.
I doubt "undersirablity" is a genetic trait but I do think rock spiders should have their balls removed.
Make way, dead man walking!
If there is one thing the general prison poulation hate more than law makers and enforcers, it's rock spiders.
Not the first time something like that has happened. Rock spiders love the term "sex offender", it dilutes the gravity of their crimes by lumping them together with streakers, public urinators, etc. IIRC one of the main congressional supporters of the sex offender list in the US was caught sending sexually expicit messages to 13-15yo boys serving as interns.
Arthur C Clarke once mused that gamma ray bursts were alien industrial accidents.
Well done for passing the test and for being able to put yourself in the bosses shoes and see why it was required. However from what I understand Childs was not the sole person in possession of the passwords until he changed them.
I'm not really fussed about karma since mine has been stuck on excellent for the last 10yrs???? However I have noticed that one liners normally attract a lot more mods, perhaps because they are simple to digest.
For example my one liner above (about the law and childs both being an ass) is currently 40% insightfull, 40% Overrated, 10% Troll. That would seem to indicate it has been modded at least ten times, yet it has only gone down one point from the original +2 score.
"It's widely accepted that octopuses are probably more intelligent than any other invertebrates. That's a long way from putting them on the same level as primates."
An octopus can solve the "unscrew the lid to get the treat in a jar" problem faster than any other creature except for humans. It's not that they are smarter or dumber than vertebrates, just very different.
WTF, did you answer the wrong post? Where did I suggest giving the government abritray powers? If I suggested anything at all it was to remove the existing arbitrary power that a solitary AG can weild over the entire nation.
If you doubt me then point to where Conroy has said a compulsory filter is a good idea.
Ahem.
"The Communications Minister, Stephen Conroy, said today he would introduce legislation just before next year's elections to force ISPs to block a blacklist of "refused classification" (RC) websites for all Australian internet users."
That conclusive enough for you? :(
No, where does he say a mandatory filter is a good idea? He can introduce whatever he likes, he knows as well as everyone else it's not going to be passed by the senate.
The reason he is leaving it until just before the election is that it has alresy been rejected once by the senate, if it were to be rejected again then it becomes a double dissolution trigger. I'm sure as hell they don't want that outcome.
This guy decided to be ass and he's finding out the hard way that law is a bigger ass.
"All we should need is your royal opinion, without checking the facts for ourselves"
Dear peasant,
You're welcome to check the facts for yourself, nobody here is stopping you, least of all me.
If you are about to point to Labor's pre-election policy paper you will note that the compulsory filter mentioned in it only applies to government computers (ie: schools, libraries, etc).
Yeah right, I have been hearing that for over a decade now, I will believe it when I see it. The filter is political theater to buy the votes of wacko independent senators. The Libs and Labor take turns at being good cop or bad cop.
Even Mr. 2% has gone cold on the idea since the web sites of his anti-abortion financiers somehow made it on to the propsed blacklist. In other words Mr 2% has been nicely shot down by a classical ad-absurdium argument. However that won't stop some other idiot doing the same thing when he believes he holds the balance of power in the senate and it won't help educate people who still take the game seriously.
If you doubt me then point to where Conroy has said a compulsory filter is a good idea. I've been asking that question on slasdot since the current round of trials began and the only quotes I ever get are where he is saying the trial is a good thing.
"Yes Minister" is a documentry that just happens to be funny.
When all the other state gov's and the Fedral gov are aligned against him and they open a public enquiry, it's a forgone conclusion he will be overruled in one way or another.
Mmmmm, frosty piss.
...is when the people give one state AG the power to frustrate the wishes of all the other state AG's and the people who pay his wages.
No mention of warp drive? Please deposit your geek card into the nearest shreader.
In a commercial environment all those options would take a considerable amount of time to implement so you're still stuck with the outage unless you had the foresight to do it before things went wrong. The only real advantage to OSS here is that it doesn't require activation in the first place.
# - True, but only if said lieutenant had the authority to override department policy on the matter in the first place.
He had authority over the sergeant, it's no different to a mid-level boss telling his underlings they can knock of half an hour earlier today because (say) the network is down, and then the upper level boss sacking the lot of them for goofing off.
Cops are outside of the average slashdoters monkeysphere.
Thank FSM. Someone put it into a car analogy.