No, TFA may be about microhoo but the anti-monopoly sentiment is aimed at resources. China recently scuttled BHP's takeover of Rio Tinto buy buying a stragic stake in Rio Tinto (after first trying to ban sales of their shares in China), the aim was to keep competition in ore prices alive down here in Oz.
Apples & oranges - Moral codes are a protocol for social interaction within one's own monkeyshere, they are a method for discovering the 'meaning of life' not the nature of reality.
This is not to say social interaction is 'useless'. The codes naturally evolve by competition into full blown civilizations that come and go based on their ability to adapt. Science at it's core is a formalised method of evolving usefull models such as how to eliminate the amoral apes in competing monkeyshere's, or how to feed one's own monkeysphere. The important difference being that with science decisions are based on an imposed universal standard of logical thought, moral descisions are made on the spot all the time by 6-7 billion different codes - they are a reflex of my tribal mind, like catching a ball.
It's not an unrealistic generalization to say that civilizations who's morals respect science will "out compete" those that do not. Ironically if this stays true for a long enough time then science could be come part of our 'natural' morals.
Indeed, if you belive in barber shop philosophy - Occam's razor makes god redundant. But hey, humans need a god & tribe to be nice to each other just as much they need a god & tribe to die for.
"Faith - Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence."
Good definition, although a different conclusion than Descartes.
Obviously you must have come up with proof that real world exists and is not just a figment of my imagination. Can you let us know what it is?;)
"doesn't mean science is wrong."
Scientific predictions may be 'right' or 'wrong', but science itself is about building and testing competing models of the 'real world' using observations and predictions. The strength and usefulness of science is dervied from the rigour of the process and the number of eyeballs.
Heh, I should know better than to tell a physicist how to suck eggs.
I have a Bsc but IANAP therefore I can only really go on what 'scientits say' and collectively they have put a lot off effort into this thing and 'scientists say' it's safe. Comes down to faith that they know what they are doing because they follow the method, same goes when I drive a car - I have faith other drivers follow the rules. The faith I have is not absolute but it's enough to out weigh the risk.;)
Indeed it is, but as I understand it the question has been answered by the "republic of science" many times, in great detail and to a high degree of certainty. Unless these people have something new to say then it is philosphically valid to ignore the question even if it does come across as arrogance (re: anti-AGW crackpots).
"...the ol' sun-rising-in-the-morning experiment has been performed a lot more times than the LHC one"
Cosmic rays hitting the atmosphere are several orders of magnitute more powerfull than the LHC so I don't think repeatability is a valid criticism. But yes, it's still possible that the few disenters are correct, in the same way that it's possible the sun won't rise tommorrow. The irony with LHC senario is that either way the dissenters will never be able to say "I told you so".
While you are absolutely correct that science is based on faith we do not have any other belief system that comes close to the usefullness of science.
I have a great deal of faith that the LHC is not a doomesday machine, and that faith is also the reason why I know the sun will rise again in the morning but can never prove it.
There is a least one algorithm to solve it in a maximum of 29 moves. Like you I doubt an algorithm that solves in the optimal number of moves exists, 25 may be optimal but I don't think that's what's been shown here.
Here is why the lack of scientific understanding by an alarming number of decision makers will never abate.
Here is the type of incident that hits the front pages of Australia's best rag.
Here is the follow up that is virtually ignored.
Since my partner was working there at the time I am gratefull they took precautions since there might have been a "cancer cluster" of unknown cause. Anyone who has responsibility for someone's welfare (such as the Hippie Mayor) should do likewise and investigate any concerns even if they themselves think they are unfounded.
However because the press basically ignored the investigation most people here in Oz now belive towers cause cancer adding a "foundation" to those initial concerns.
This isn't a rant about the dumbing down of mass media, it's a rant about human nature using a car analogy.
If a car backfires most people will look toward it and then go about there bussiness without really knowing what the noise was. The analogy holds well for reporters and politicians adding weight to the controversial theory that practioners of these two proffesions are in fact human.
IMHO the best defense against oneself is to be continually skeptical of your own common sense and depth of knowledge. The best defense against "freaked out hippies", "cheap labour captialists", and all the goups in between, is to admit 99% certain is 1% wrong and "they" are human.
Paintings of nobility from the 1800's are not in short supply, they are usually valued by the reputation of the artist not the subject of the painting. It's much more likely that the dealer had no idea why geeks would be more interested than art collectors.
Great idea, lets divide the population into seperate states based on age, 50 states means everyone gets to move roughly once a year before retiring to Florida. We can start by sending everyone under 30 to Alaska, that'll keep those damm kids off my lawn and make the highway safe to drive on.
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Cheer up, all the triple-breasted whores from Eroticon VI I have met were tourists, and tourists always put out.
"they never even invented the wheel"
So how do you explain wheels on Mayan toys?
No, TFA may be about microhoo but the anti-monopoly sentiment is aimed at resources. China recently scuttled BHP's takeover of Rio Tinto buy buying a stragic stake in Rio Tinto (after first trying to ban sales of their shares in China), the aim was to keep competition in ore prices alive down here in Oz.
Must be fake. I've been to Scotland, a vegitarian would starve to death.
Yeah, I want to come back as a Bonobo.
"It's that men from Mars, women from Venus thingy."
Actually they are both from Earth, but that bit of trivia is best kept to oneself if you want to gey laid.
Apples & oranges - Moral codes are a protocol for social interaction within one's own monkeyshere, they are a method for discovering the 'meaning of life' not the nature of reality.
This is not to say social interaction is 'useless'. The codes naturally evolve by competition into full blown civilizations that come and go based on their ability to adapt. Science at it's core is a formalised method of evolving usefull models such as how to eliminate the amoral apes in competing monkeyshere's, or how to feed one's own monkeysphere. The important difference being that with science decisions are based on an imposed universal standard of logical thought, moral descisions are made on the spot all the time by 6-7 billion different codes - they are a reflex of my tribal mind, like catching a ball.
It's not an unrealistic generalization to say that civilizations who's morals respect science will "out compete" those that do not. Ironically if this stays true for a long enough time then science could be come part of our 'natural' morals.
FTFA : "it's nearly impossible to say PCMCIA at all, without getting all the letters jumbled up and your technological pants tied in a knot"
I agree, he didn't do his reaearch. The quote above describes an early marketing bug, a meme was quickly released with the following solution...
PCMCIA = "People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronymns"
Jezz dad, I know your in your 70's but stop bragging about it.
Indeed, if you belive in barber shop philosophy - Occam's razor makes god redundant. But hey, humans need a god & tribe to be nice to each other just as much they need a god & tribe to die for.
"Faith - Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence."
;)
Good definition, although a different conclusion than Descartes.
Obviously you must have come up with proof that real world exists and is not just a figment of my imagination. Can you let us know what it is?
"doesn't mean science is wrong."
Scientific predictions may be 'right' or 'wrong', but science itself is about building and testing competing models of the 'real world' using observations and predictions. The strength and usefulness of science is dervied from the rigour of the process and the number of eyeballs.
I agree, did you notice I put the word 'know' in italics?
Heh, I should know better than to tell a physicist how to suck eggs.
;)
I have a Bsc but IANAP therefore I can only really go on what 'scientits say' and collectively they have put a lot off effort into this thing and 'scientists say' it's safe. Comes down to faith that they know what they are doing because they follow the method, same goes when I drive a car - I have faith other drivers follow the rules. The faith I have is not absolute but it's enough to out weigh the risk.
"Its a question worth asking."
Indeed it is, but as I understand it the question has been answered by the "republic of science" many times, in great detail and to a high degree of certainty. Unless these people have something new to say then it is philosphically valid to ignore the question even if it does come across as arrogance (re: anti-AGW crackpots).
"...the ol' sun-rising-in-the-morning experiment has been performed a lot more times than the LHC one"
Cosmic rays hitting the atmosphere are several orders of magnitute more powerfull than the LHC so I don't think repeatability is a valid criticism. But yes, it's still possible that the few disenters are correct, in the same way that it's possible the sun won't rise tommorrow. The irony with LHC senario is that either way the dissenters will never be able to say "I told you so".
I stand corrected, brute force is indeed an algorithm.
While you are absolutely correct that science is based on faith we do not have any other belief system that comes close to the usefullness of science.
I have a great deal of faith that the LHC is not a doomesday machine, and that faith is also the reason why I know the sun will rise again in the morning but can never prove it.
"If the item shown in the article is the "provenance" then it does not qualify."
;)
I understand 'provenance' but this is slashdot, how the hell would I know what's in TFA?
The way to kill a bussiness is to remove it's profit, not fight it's bots.
What's stopping Blizzard selling a 'bot enabled subscription' at a premium?
There is a least one algorithm to solve it in a maximum of 29 moves. Like you I doubt an algorithm that solves in the optimal number of moves exists, 25 may be optimal but I don't think that's what's been shown here.
"Note that this [WTO] is significantly different than treaties"
Saying a treaty is different to a treaty is insightfull? - Sounds more like a government press release to me.
Here is why the lack of scientific understanding by an alarming number of decision makers will never abate.
Here is the type of incident that hits the front pages of Australia's best rag.
Here is the follow up that is virtually ignored.
Since my partner was working there at the time I am gratefull they took precautions since there might have been a "cancer cluster" of unknown cause. Anyone who has responsibility for someone's welfare (such as the Hippie Mayor) should do likewise and investigate any concerns even if they themselves think they are unfounded.
However because the press basically ignored the investigation most people here in Oz now belive towers cause cancer adding a "foundation" to those initial concerns.
This isn't a rant about the dumbing down of mass media, it's a rant about human nature using a car analogy.
If a car backfires most people will look toward it and then go about there bussiness without really knowing what the noise was. The analogy holds well for reporters and politicians adding weight to the controversial theory that practioners of these two proffesions are in fact human.
IMHO the best defense against oneself is to be continually skeptical of your own common sense and depth of knowledge. The best defense against "freaked out hippies", "cheap labour captialists", and all the goups in between, is to admit 99% certain is 1% wrong and "they" are human.
"You seem to have missed the main point"
Actually you seem to have missed the joke. My point (if any) was that state rights cut both ways.
Two words - "with provenance".
Paintings of nobility from the 1800's are not in short supply, they are usually valued by the reputation of the artist not the subject of the painting. It's much more likely that the dealer had no idea why geeks would be more interested than art collectors.
No, she uses a calculator.
Great idea, lets divide the population into seperate states based on age, 50 states means everyone gets to move roughly once a year before retiring to Florida. We can start by sending everyone under 30 to Alaska, that'll keep those damm kids off my lawn and make the highway safe to drive on.