"Being "unbiased" doesn't automatically make you credible. In fact it can cost you your credibility."
The problem with "unbiased news" is that given enough time everyone who is in the news ends up hating you. For example, the fact that both the far-right "fundies" and communist China despise the BBC would seem to indicate it is worth reading.
I also agree there is nothing inherently wrong with a "biased source", the other half of the story is sure to exist in another equally "biased source".
I generally agree with what you say about journalists who point out the "wizard behind the curtain", but try not to be too judgemental about the "current crop". US journalists are still being thrown in jail for sticking to their ethical codes, and the "mass media" is still printing insights from experienced war correspondents such as Robert Frisk.
People like Murrow are rare, and even if there is a "Murrow" lurking somewhere in today's media machine they won't be generally recognised as such for another decade or so.
I don't understand why you are telling me all about seperation of powers and juries as if they were unique to the US, most of your leagal and political system was lifted straight from the french and the english systems, it's not something that's new to westerners.
Please read the quote again, but this time try assuming a non-american already understands the pillars of democracy.
"The problem is that, in order to make this system manageable, one would need to have the capability to connect all this information together efficiently."
In Australia the capability already exists through the use of a TFN (SSN equivalent). It is used mainly to correlate tax, social security and immigration records for financial purposes. Any modern government already collects, collates and cross-checks personal data far more than the nazi's ever did. What we need to gaurd against is not "nazi like" tools but "nazi like" governments.
"I think for many people (myself included), the problem is not the ID card but the gigantic government-run database that backs them."
Yep.
A bit of background on Australia, from an old fart's memory:
In Australia the first attempt was the Australia card, what killed that idea was not Howards objections but Peter Garrett's (of midnight oil fame) arguments against it on a popular current affairs show. The card was scrapped and everyone got a TFN (Tax File Number) instead. You don't have to reveal this number to the bank but if you don't your earnings on investments are taxed at the highest rate (~50% of the earnings, deducted straight out of the account). To get back the overpayment you must claim a rebate at tax time. The TFN also hooks into the social security and immigration systems. In otherwords, Australia got the Australia card the first time but dropped the "card" part and gave out TFN's instead. Now we have Howard proposing to add the "card" part back into the legislation, and to top it off, Peter Garrett has morphed from a rock star into an opposition MP.
Nobody I know likes the idea of a government collecting info about them for whatever purpose, but at the same time everyone wants the government to be administered efficiently and fairly. These concerns are contradictory and thus we end up with a patchwork political solution that implements a convoluted, fragmented system in a futile attempt to address both concerns.
Modern governments have information systems the nazi's could only dream of, and all at the touch of a few buttons. Governmets will not give this tool away now that they have it, if they did the economy would suffer badly and in subsequent elections they would rate about the same level of support as ludites. The only pragmatic thing we can do to gaurd against "nazi like" missuse of this information is to ensure we watch the government more closely than it watches us.
Are you saying that child porn does not exist on the web and are you saying that the interpoll busts that have nabed some high profile rock spiders have been a complete waste? Or mabe you are saying rock spiders that post child porn should not be investigated via their ISP logs?
BTW: I do not belive Gonzales when he says "think of the children", I belive it's a trawling excersice aimed at monitoring all kinds of "social networks".
However, that does not mean rock spiders should be allowed to manipulate privacy and free speech issues into a green light to post anything they like over a semi-public network. If the government actually worked with ISP's and the porn industry in a genuine attempt to collect evidence against these predators (eg: dob in a kiddy-porn site), it would be a good thing. Unfortunately many politicians are blind to the difference between porn, prostitution and abuse. OTOH: To be fair to politicians in general, there are grey areas, cultural differences and some in the porn industry are actively involved in the abuse.
Environmentalists want to replace a coal plant with wind...environmentalists want to stop us from building windmills...don't listen to those silly, smelly environmentalists?
I agree the premise is moronic...
From TFA: "Traditional utility companies want to build them -- and thus the traditional environmental movement (which supports wind energy) has produced a handful of untraditional splinter groups that are trying to stop them.
There appears to be three anti-wind groups in TFA, home owners, real estate developers and anti-establishment ludites. None of these groups focus on the environment, nor do they speak for "Joe Stringbag" environmentalists.
Homeowners and developers label ludities as "environmentalist" to promote the idea that there is a "debate" about the merits of wind power within the environmental movement. It's a common political tactic used to thwart scientifically based public policy, see the ID and GW "debates" for more of the same.
Evidence? The OT prophecy was for a lamb, the NT said they nailed up a man. Unless you think humans can be mistaken for a flock of sheep...ummm, never mind.
Flock, lamb, sheperd, father, son, children, "thou shall", "thou shall not", brother, sister, are all words used heavily in the bible, they are used in the context of describing man's relationship with God and each other. Coincidently, they could also be seen as describing and justifying the natural social hierarchy found in many mammals, including the divierse and bizzare societies formed by humans.
"An intelligent person IMO would condescend to use technical support, in the absence of all other viable options."
Note that the phrase, "...the last thing...", translates directly into "absence of all other viable options". The exception to this behaviour is, if you know you have stuffed up your password then ring the helpdesk first. The reasoning behind avoiding the helpdesk is simply that "life is too short". Besides, my comment was intended to be tounge-in-cheek not a thesis.
Comparing the quoted date for the fossil and the often quoted date for Genesis, the snake in TFA would appear to have died and fossilised millions of years before Genesis, so obviously they are different snakes.
I can only speculate that the Genesis snake is an ancestor of the snake with hips, this makes some sense, a talking snake would take millions of years to evolve, it would also tie in nicely with the slim evidence we have of a two legged Genesis snake.
As an aside, it appears that the talking snake branch of the tree of life ended in extinction, nobody knows exactly when but it was at some time after Kipling made his observations in "Jungle book". Perhaps religious fanatics arriving in India from the British empire killed the last of the talking snakes to stop them spreading "heresies", they could have been very effective given the local abundance of trained snake charmers.
Now before you go objecting that nothing is older than Genesis, let me tell you about karma. You see the knowledge from the knowledge tree, (and the snake's so called "heresy"), has nothing to do with apples or sex. "The fruit of the knowlage tree" is the knowladge that this partciular Universe is not God's first attempt. This is not to say God is ever wrong, (re: Douglas Adams and the babblefish), it just that God's taste changes from time to time and sometimes to redecorate you have to remodle everything to express the "real you".
From what I understand the original Universe goes back some 13-14BYA, since then God has completely remoddeled the Universe a few times, Genesis was only a redecoration of the plenet Earth. God is not a wastefull God, recycling plays a big part when God spruces-up the Universe (thus karma, 90MYA snake fossils, and an annoying but usefull microwave hiss). This current redecoration of Earth was progressing nicely until God decided to reuse teenagers and talking snakes instead of re-evolving them, since then few have seen God and everything has turned to shit.
OTOH: We know the talking snakes have already died out, perhaps God knows something about our survival prospects and assumed importance in "the scheme of things" that we don't?
Calling tech support is the last thing an intelligent person would do.
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"That's the option that commoditised music totally removes from me. I'm left with the status quo, which is to make my music and release it for free."
To turn a hobby into a living you need more than just musical creativity. You have locked yourself into one business plan, ie: "I can't perform my mixing so I am left with selling recordings to distributors".
To make money for yourself you need some creativity of the marketing and accounting kind, (gargggle, spit), even famous writers can't predict what out of all they write will be popular, what makes you think you can? Put it out there "free for personal use", maybe someone will pay you to write the score of a commercial or something, you are not getting paid now so what are you losing except obscurity?
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"You want to make a living making music? Fine. Work for eight hours a day, five days a week like the rest of us."
Keith Richards from the Rolling Stones is a good example of a working musician, take a look at that guys fingers, you can see how long and hard he has practiced.
OTOH: There is always a nagging voice in my head that says, nobody on the planet works hard enough or is talented enough, (at anything except maybe accounting), to be able to justify million dollar paychecks. At least not while a billion plus hard working people live on less than a dollar a day.
I don't doubt that revenge is one of the aims but revenge does not equate to justice. Taken to it's extreme state sponsered revenge leads to a Stalin picture above the mantlepiece, taken to the other extreme you end up with anarchy.
If, as capt obvious says, "the system is fallible" then it shouldn't it err on the side of caution and avoid irrevesible acts? There is no need to execute people in a modern state, but the stone age "let god sort 'em out" attitude is still strong.
I sould clear up that when I say "respect for the acuused" I am really talking about is respect for their rights under the system. When I talk about respect for the victim, I mean acknowlaging the system has backed them up. I don't need to have personal respect for either but their status in the system deserves aknowlagement even if you don't respect the system.
Calling someone an idiot is par for the course on slashdot, calling someone "an irate sex offender" because they have a idiotic view shows that either...
1. You're an idiot.
2. You don't respect the gravity of the charge.
3. You enjoy witch hunts.
4. All of the above.
Wikipedia calls itself an encyclopedia and as a single source it is as reliable as any other encyclopedia, the other poster has a valid point and you have avoided it by changing the disscussion to something else.
BTW: Apart from obvious vandalisim, can you point to any factually incorrect entry and at the same time also point to the sources (plural) that back you up? My guess is you can't.
We should respect the verdict of the courts but resonable doubt is not truth and it is well known that "the law is an ass". There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent people who were executed in the US during the 20th century, many of them on the assumption that it is "reasonable" to assume a black man is a criminal.
As I said in another post: capital punishment is not justice, it is state sponsered revenge.
Probably due to the environment found in temporary waterways, freshwater eels often go across fields from dam to stream or vica-verse at nighttime. The eels use dams to breed, usually during or after rain. In Australia the lungfish goes from pond to pond using it's fins to push it along. Most permanent water in the Australian outback is in artesian springs seperated by desert but every few years the desrt floods, fish and frogs "come out of the sand" and water birds somehow "know" the inland sea has formed. Within days, pelicans, ibis, storks, gulls,,, that usually live on the coast converge in their millions on the inland sea to feast on the explosion of fish, frogs and bugs.
There are lots of places in Africa and Australia where water almost dries up, feeding from land or mudflats could be a distinct advantage over other creatures confined only to water. However I think that feeding is insignificant compared to the survival potentintial given by the ability of a species to move from a small evaporating pond to a larger body of water, even if that means laying eggs in the rapidly drying mud and hoping a flood will nuture your offspring.
Moving over land (or surviving dry periods) lets you exploit virgin aquatic environments first and is a means of escape (at least at the species level) from dying ones, getting a snack on the journey would seem to be just an added bonus. The interesting thing about TFA is that the catfish seems to habitually hunt on land.
""Any scientist who cannot explain to an eight-year-old what he is doing is a charlatan" --Kurt Vonnegut in Cat's Cradle
I agree!
"What can I tell you about baking a cake if you have never heard of flour, butter or milk?". -- Eienstien (paraphrase).
I agree! -- with both quotes?
The wiki could be cream or crap, it all depends on how it is set up, how moderators are selected and who can post (requires email, sign in, ect). The whole idea of a wiki is that it automatically points to other parts of the wiki for definitions of "flour", "NP" or whatever.
In otherwords a wiki has the potential to serve as "the explaination" for the hoards of casual participants. OTOH: It has the potential to become a steaming pile of crap.
"Global-warming alarmists intimidate dissenting scientists into silence."
Lindzen finds logic intimidating because it works against him, his paper was discredited on scientific grounds and he is flat out lying about Mann and his data. Lindzen's op-ed in the WSJ does not look like he is being silenced.
Looking through slashdot's latest threads on GW, it appears slashdot is populated by people who laugh at ID because it is unscientific and at the same time hold Lindzen's tripe up as a counter argument to one of the most scutinised scientific findings ever offered up to the public.
I habitually put corporate spokesmen like Lindzen into the same basket as flat earther's, ufologists and creationists. If they actually came up with something that had the rigour to find it's way into a peer-reviewed journal, or even a rational argument that hasn't been debunked, it might be worth posting. The op-ed you have reproduced deliberately misinforms, it is offensive to the scientific community in general and climatologists in particular.
"Being "unbiased" doesn't automatically make you credible. In fact it can cost you your credibility."
The problem with "unbiased news" is that given enough time everyone who is in the news ends up hating you. For example, the fact that both the far-right "fundies" and communist China despise the BBC would seem to indicate it is worth reading.
I also agree there is nothing inherently wrong with a "biased source", the other half of the story is sure to exist in another equally "biased source".
I generally agree with what you say about journalists who point out the "wizard behind the curtain", but try not to be too judgemental about the "current crop". US journalists are still being thrown in jail for sticking to their ethical codes, and the "mass media" is still printing insights from experienced war correspondents such as Robert Frisk.
People like Murrow are rare, and even if there is a "Murrow" lurking somewhere in today's media machine they won't be generally recognised as such for another decade or so.
I don't understand why you are telling me all about seperation of powers and juries as if they were unique to the US, most of your leagal and political system was lifted straight from the french and the english systems, it's not something that's new to westerners.
Please read the quote again, but this time try assuming a non-american already understands the pillars of democracy.
"The problem is that, in order to make this system manageable, one would need to have the capability to connect all this information together efficiently."
In Australia the capability already exists through the use of a TFN (SSN equivalent). It is used mainly to correlate tax, social security and immigration records for financial purposes. Any modern government already collects, collates and cross-checks personal data far more than the nazi's ever did. What we need to gaurd against is not "nazi like" tools but "nazi like" governments.
"I think for many people (myself included), the problem is not the ID card but the gigantic government-run database that backs them."
Yep.
A bit of background on Australia, from an old fart's memory:
In Australia the first attempt was the Australia card, what killed that idea was not Howards objections but Peter Garrett's (of midnight oil fame) arguments against it on a popular current affairs show. The card was scrapped and everyone got a TFN (Tax File Number) instead. You don't have to reveal this number to the bank but if you don't your earnings on investments are taxed at the highest rate (~50% of the earnings, deducted straight out of the account). To get back the overpayment you must claim a rebate at tax time. The TFN also hooks into the social security and immigration systems. In otherwords, Australia got the Australia card the first time but dropped the "card" part and gave out TFN's instead. Now we have Howard proposing to add the "card" part back into the legislation, and to top it off, Peter Garrett has morphed from a rock star into an opposition MP.
Nobody I know likes the idea of a government collecting info about them for whatever purpose, but at the same time everyone wants the government to be administered efficiently and fairly. These concerns are contradictory and thus we end up with a patchwork political solution that implements a convoluted, fragmented system in a futile attempt to address both concerns.
Modern governments have information systems the nazi's could only dream of, and all at the touch of a few buttons. Governmets will not give this tool away now that they have it, if they did the economy would suffer badly and in subsequent elections they would rate about the same level of support as ludites. The only pragmatic thing we can do to gaurd against "nazi like" missuse of this information is to ensure we watch the government more closely than it watches us.
"The purpose of science should be to find the truth"
Ah, yes truth..... There is a difference between "supernatural" and unexplained but many people see them as the same thing.
"Until science _disproves_ something"
Science does not "disprove" anything, I mean how would you prove to me that pigs can't fly?
Are you saying that child porn does not exist on the web and are you saying that the interpoll busts that have nabed some high profile rock spiders have been a complete waste? Or mabe you are saying rock spiders that post child porn should not be investigated via their ISP logs?
BTW: I do not belive Gonzales when he says "think of the children", I belive it's a trawling excersice aimed at monitoring all kinds of "social networks".
However, that does not mean rock spiders should be allowed to manipulate privacy and free speech issues into a green light to post anything they like over a semi-public network. If the government actually worked with ISP's and the porn industry in a genuine attempt to collect evidence against these predators (eg: dob in a kiddy-porn site), it would be a good thing. Unfortunately many politicians are blind to the difference between porn, prostitution and abuse. OTOH: To be fair to politicians in general, there are grey areas, cultural differences and some in the porn industry are actively involved in the abuse.
Environmentalists want to replace a coal plant with wind...environmentalists want to stop us from building windmills...don't listen to those silly, smelly environmentalists?
I agree the premise is moronic...
From TFA: "Traditional utility companies want to build them -- and thus the traditional environmental movement (which supports wind energy) has produced a handful of untraditional splinter groups that are trying to stop them.
There appears to be three anti-wind groups in TFA, home owners, real estate developers and anti-establishment ludites. None of these groups focus on the environment, nor do they speak for "Joe Stringbag" environmentalists.
Homeowners and developers label ludities as "environmentalist" to promote the idea that there is a "debate" about the merits of wind power within the environmental movement. It's a common political tactic used to thwart scientifically based public policy, see the ID and GW "debates" for more of the same.
Evidence? The OT prophecy was for a lamb, the NT said they nailed up a man. Unless you think humans can be mistaken for a flock of sheep...ummm, never mind.
Flock, lamb, sheperd, father, son, children, "thou shall", "thou shall not", brother, sister, are all words used heavily in the bible, they are used in the context of describing man's relationship with God and each other. Coincidently, they could also be seen as describing and justifying the natural social hierarchy found in many mammals, including the divierse and bizzare societies formed by humans.
"An intelligent person IMO would condescend to use technical support, in the absence of all other viable options."
Note that the phrase, "...the last thing...", translates directly into "absence of all other viable options". The exception to this behaviour is, if you know you have stuffed up your password then ring the helpdesk first. The reasoning behind avoiding the helpdesk is simply that "life is too short". Besides, my comment was intended to be tounge-in-cheek not a thesis.
Comparing the quoted date for the fossil and the often quoted date for Genesis, the snake in TFA would appear to have died and fossilised millions of years before Genesis, so obviously they are different snakes.
/sarcasm
I can only speculate that the Genesis snake is an ancestor of the snake with hips, this makes some sense, a talking snake would take millions of years to evolve, it would also tie in nicely with the slim evidence we have of a two legged Genesis snake.
As an aside, it appears that the talking snake branch of the tree of life ended in extinction, nobody knows exactly when but it was at some time after Kipling made his observations in "Jungle book". Perhaps religious fanatics arriving in India from the British empire killed the last of the talking snakes to stop them spreading "heresies", they could have been very effective given the local abundance of trained snake charmers.
Now before you go objecting that nothing is older than Genesis, let me tell you about karma. You see the knowledge from the knowledge tree, (and the snake's so called "heresy"), has nothing to do with apples or sex. "The fruit of the knowlage tree" is the knowladge that this partciular Universe is not God's first attempt. This is not to say God is ever wrong, (re: Douglas Adams and the babblefish), it just that God's taste changes from time to time and sometimes to redecorate you have to remodle everything to express the "real you".
From what I understand the original Universe goes back some 13-14BYA, since then God has completely remoddeled the Universe a few times, Genesis was only a redecoration of the plenet Earth. God is not a wastefull God, recycling plays a big part when God spruces-up the Universe (thus karma, 90MYA snake fossils, and an annoying but usefull microwave hiss). This current redecoration of Earth was progressing nicely until God decided to reuse teenagers and talking snakes instead of re-evolving them, since then few have seen God and everything has turned to shit.
OTOH: We know the talking snakes have already died out, perhaps God knows something about our survival prospects and assumed importance in "the scheme of things" that we don't?
Calling tech support is the last thing an intelligent person would do.
"That's the option that commoditised music totally removes from me. I'm left with the status quo, which is to make my music and release it for free."
To turn a hobby into a living you need more than just musical creativity. You have locked yourself into one business plan, ie: "I can't perform my mixing so I am left with selling recordings to distributors".
To make money for yourself you need some creativity of the marketing and accounting kind, (gargggle, spit), even famous writers can't predict what out of all they write will be popular, what makes you think you can? Put it out there "free for personal use", maybe someone will pay you to write the score of a commercial or something, you are not getting paid now so what are you losing except obscurity?
"You want to make a living making music? Fine. Work for eight hours a day, five days a week like the rest of us."
Keith Richards from the Rolling Stones is a good example of a working musician, take a look at that guys fingers, you can see how long and hard he has practiced.
OTOH: There is always a nagging voice in my head that says, nobody on the planet works hard enough or is talented enough, (at anything except maybe accounting), to be able to justify million dollar paychecks. At least not while a billion plus hard working people live on less than a dollar a day.
"On a more serious note, when I do go witch hunting, I'm careful to use all the parts and make sure nothing goes wasted."
That's good to know, I hate it when people use the hats and throw the rest away.
I don't doubt that revenge is one of the aims but revenge does not equate to justice. Taken to it's extreme state sponsered revenge leads to a Stalin picture above the mantlepiece, taken to the other extreme you end up with anarchy.
If, as capt obvious says, "the system is fallible" then it shouldn't it err on the side of caution and avoid irrevesible acts? There is no need to execute people in a modern state, but the stone age "let god sort 'em out" attitude is still strong.
I sould clear up that when I say "respect for the acuused" I am really talking about is respect for their rights under the system. When I talk about respect for the victim, I mean acknowlaging the system has backed them up. I don't need to have personal respect for either but their status in the system deserves aknowlagement even if you don't respect the system.
Yeah, sure, however I'm talking about etiquette.
Calling someone an idiot is par for the course on slashdot, calling someone "an irate sex offender" because they have a idiotic view shows that either...
1. You're an idiot.
2. You don't respect the gravity of the charge.
3. You enjoy witch hunts.
4. All of the above.
Wikipedia calls itself an encyclopedia and as a single source it is as reliable as any other encyclopedia, the other poster has a valid point and you have avoided it by changing the disscussion to something else.
BTW: Apart from obvious vandalisim, can you point to any factually incorrect entry and at the same time also point to the sources (plural) that back you up? My guess is you can't.
"The court may have made a mistake" is bullshit."
We should respect the verdict of the courts but resonable doubt is not truth and it is well known that "the law is an ass". There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of innocent people who were executed in the US during the 20th century, many of them on the assumption that it is "reasonable" to assume a black man is a criminal.
As I said in another post: capital punishment is not justice, it is state sponsered revenge.
Journalsitic etiquette says: "Innocent until proven guilty" requires the use of a referee (ie: the court).
If someone has not been convicted then you should use "allegedly", this is a sign of respect for the accused and the system.
If someone has been convicted then you should not use "allegedly", this is a sign of respect for the victim and the system.
The courts make mistakes that cut both ways, capital punishment is neither justice or a deterent, it is state sponsered revenge.
Probably due to the environment found in temporary waterways, freshwater eels often go across fields from dam to stream or vica-verse at nighttime. The eels use dams to breed, usually during or after rain. In Australia the lungfish goes from pond to pond using it's fins to push it along. Most permanent water in the Australian outback is in artesian springs seperated by desert but every few years the desrt floods, fish and frogs "come out of the sand" and water birds somehow "know" the inland sea has formed. Within days, pelicans, ibis, storks, gulls,,, that usually live on the coast converge in their millions on the inland sea to feast on the explosion of fish, frogs and bugs.
There are lots of places in Africa and Australia where water almost dries up, feeding from land or mudflats could be a distinct advantage over other creatures confined only to water. However I think that feeding is insignificant compared to the survival potentintial given by the ability of a species to move from a small evaporating pond to a larger body of water, even if that means laying eggs in the rapidly drying mud and hoping a flood will nuture your offspring.
Moving over land (or surviving dry periods) lets you exploit virgin aquatic environments first and is a means of escape (at least at the species level) from dying ones, getting a snack on the journey would seem to be just an added bonus. The interesting thing about TFA is that the catfish seems to habitually hunt on land.
""Any scientist who cannot explain to an eight-year-old what he is doing is a charlatan" --Kurt Vonnegut in Cat's Cradle
I agree!
"What can I tell you about baking a cake if you have never heard of flour, butter or milk?". -- Eienstien (paraphrase).
I agree! -- with both quotes?
The wiki could be cream or crap, it all depends on how it is set up, how moderators are selected and who can post (requires email, sign in, ect). The whole idea of a wiki is that it automatically points to other parts of the wiki for definitions of "flour", "NP" or whatever.
In otherwords a wiki has the potential to serve as "the explaination" for the hoards of casual participants. OTOH: It has the potential to become a steaming pile of crap.
"Global-warming alarmists intimidate dissenting scientists into silence."
Lindzen finds logic intimidating because it works against him, his paper was discredited on scientific grounds and he is flat out lying about Mann and his data. Lindzen's op-ed in the WSJ does not look like he is being silenced.
Also I don't think the people who are trying to correct his bullshit would qualify as alarmists.
Looking through slashdot's latest threads on GW, it appears slashdot is populated by people who laugh at ID because it is unscientific and at the same time hold Lindzen's tripe up as a counter argument to one of the most scutinised scientific findings ever offered up to the public.
I habitually put corporate spokesmen like Lindzen into the same basket as flat earther's, ufologists and creationists. If they actually came up with something that had the rigour to find it's way into a peer-reviewed journal, or even a rational argument that hasn't been debunked, it might be worth posting. The op-ed you have reproduced deliberately misinforms, it is offensive to the scientific community in general and climatologists in particular.