You obviously went to a better fifth grade class than I did. I was virtually the only one in my fifth grade class who could put together a coherent sentence.
This is FLAMEBAIT!? How the hell is this FLAMEBAIT?! OK, is there a RIAA employee moderating this week, or has RIAA become the latest Big Corporate Entity That We All Know Is Evil But Everyone Loves To Defend (a la MS)? I've seen a billion supposed 'geeks' defend MS; is the RIAA next?
We all know what's going on. The people who really need to read this sort of paper are the PHBs-- the sort of people who would believe the latest Gartner Group rubbish stating that Linux should be avoided...
...could have anything to do with this? They are rapidly setting themselves up as 'audio-fascists', and are probably afraid that such devices would be hacked (e.g. provided with a more powerful amplifier and a bigger antenna) and thus become an unlicensed (and hence NON-MONEY-MAKING) FM station...
It seems like the RIAA want to enforce a situation where ONLY "approved", tribute-paying stations have ANY sort of FM transmitter equipment.
Am I the only one who'd rather play great retro-games in emulators than give in and buy Windoze so they can play the latest FPSes that make teenagers squeal?
No one ever said anything about 'more' bugs. You just were a little out of it. No need to defend yourself beyond noting your state of quasi-inebriation.;)
I agree with you 1000%. Sad to see how such a thing gets one modded down nowadays. It's no longer acceptable, even on SlashDot, to verbally and unambiguously disapprove of people who use MS technologies...
That's okay. I just find it disturbing how many "typos" involving ADDING APOSTROPHES TO THINGS, or TAKING AWAY APOSTROPHES WHERE THEY BELONG, seem to be happening nowadays. It's like a plague. I'm sick of reading things like "You cant do that cuz your not 21", or "They have the best pizza's Ive ever tasted"...
...is the bit in the referenced article where Steve "Monkey Boy" Ballmer is claiming that not only does Windows have a lower TCO than Linux, but MS is faster at patching bugs than the OSS/FS community...
If it weren't such a sobering reality that many businesspeople actually believe such BS, it would be funny...
"The next step is particularly fascinating, if a signal appears to have increased since the first observation put that star on the checklist."
How could it have increased?
These signals are coming from light-years away.
Even if the aliens learned, somehow (say, a year ago) that we were listening for them, finding this out instantly via some sort of "subspace radio" or the like, the signals we have received since then were ALREADY IN TRANSIT when the SETI@home program began.
Besides, there'd be no way for them to know we're listening, let alone to find that out within the last year.
Or maybe I just grossly misread the poster's meaning?
A) Ain't gonna happen.
B) I don't want Windows, even if it IS free. Some things are more important than money (like stopping progress-slowing, evil monopolies).
...but in practice, it could simply be used as an argument FOR centralized, online voting. Please note that the current e-voting system currently in testing is Windows-specific... this could end up being a very bad thing. ("To vote, you must run one of the following operating systems: Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows ME, Windows 98. Other systems are not supported on www.evote.gov at this time. We apologize for any inconvenience this might cause...")
I KNOW I'm paranoid, but still...I like to think long-term.
To most people, if it isn't on the Web site, it doesn't exist. It would be VERY easy to make the case that FTP is only for "hackers" and/or "highly technical individuals". Hell, SCO could even argue that those who use FTP to obtain software from them that they removed from their Web site were "hacking", and that they "should have known that this software was no longer for public download or use without appropriate licensing and payment." They could throw out some nice, Judge-convincing BS like "We only made these files available via the 'FTP' program, which is only for highly advanced technical individuals such as corporate IT managers, for the convenience of our paying customers. It was not intended for download by unlicensed individuals, and in fact doing so constitutes hacking as per the terms of the DMCA..." And the Judge would buy it hook, line and sinker, since it rings true of the Good Ol' American style of corporate IP-speak.
...what about NONCOMMERCIAL Linux use? Such as, for instance, me running Debian/PPC on my Power Mac G4 (which I am doing at this very moment)?
Also, wouldn't the whole "binary-only" thing destroy half of the usefulness of Linux? Half the whole point of Linux is that you are free to do what you wish to it-- including modifying it. Not to be a tinfoil-hat loony about things, but... what was that little "rumor" or "guess" several people have posted, about Microsoft being in league with SCO?
Ignoring, for a moment, the fact that the US economy is not a closed system (money comes in from other countries, and goes out TO other countries), yes, it IS a fucking zero-sum game. Your claim of "If GNP falls, money does, in a sense, disappear." remains unsubstantiated. Prove it.
The notes and coins, and their digital equivalents in banks' computer systems, DO NOT disappear. And every year, the government prints MORE money, adding MORE dollars and cents into the total size of the US economy.
Let's say (again, ignoring global factors; when the US economy is in the shithole, as often as not so is the international economy.) that, in January of 1929, there were, say, $50 billion in assets floating around the US. In January of 1930, there would be NO LESS THAN $50 billion in assets floating around the US. The difference is that instead of the Average Joe having a decent (for those days) salary and the Rockefellers being rich-rich-rich, it would be the Average Joe having a LOUSY salary (or none at all) and the Rockefellers being rich-rich-rich-RICH-RICH-RICH!
Notes and coins, and/or their digital avatars, ARE MONEY. They DO NOT DISAPPEAR. It is like matter-- matter cannot be destroyed. It can merely be converted into energy. Money flows from person to person, but it does not lessen in the process.
Are you going to give credence to your own claims, or are you just going to call me a pinko? (A badge I wear with pride. Bring it on, fascist.)
It wasn't intended as regexp. Most SlashDotters nowadays come from a DOS/Windoze background, and would not understand regexp. Hence, I used something more understandable to those used to "delete *.*", or whatever the command would be in DOS. I always forget. (delete? erase? remove?)
If I were going for regexp, I'd just go "(RI|MP)AA". But most Windozies would parse that as "Rimpaa", which sounds more like Puumba's evil twin brother than anything.;)
Yes, interesting indeed. The US was founded by people who committed acts of treason and war against Great Britain-- and for a just cause, I believe. (I respect the American Ideal-- which is why I hate America-- that is, in its present form.) When you are faced with tyrants, physically fighting for your rights is one of the many options you have. Not the best, perhaps, but it's on the plate. This is the sort of thing that the hick gun-nuts are always ranting about. As much as I despise guns and gun-nuts (they frighten me), they are right on one thing-- you have to be prepared to fight for your rights, and the rights of your country(wo)men, when they are being oppressed by tyrants.
This nation started as the United States of America. Today, it's the United States of Microsoft, Wal-Mart, AOL/TimeWarner/CNN/KitchenSink, and HighPricedCorporateLawyers, with lawsuits and injustice for all. I don't want it to come to revolution, but if that is what is necessary to restore some sanity to the nation, so be it. Let the Revolution come.
They're already testing a voting system that requires users to run Windows. Some day, they will-- mark my words-- make it impossible (perhaps even illegal, for "security purposes" or some other such nice-sounding piece of BS) to vote unless you run Windows. And that day, I will become one of the gun nuts... and the man (surely not a woman?) who makes that decision will find their brains splattered on the far wall of their posh office, and the money that Microsoft gave them (as a "campaign donation"! Hah!) pilfered and given to charity where it belongs.
If there is no one else left in this country who gives a shit about these things, so be it. I care about my rights, and I care about the well-being of the country. We were not founded to become a playground for the richest.1% of Americans, where they could control 50% of the wealth and keep the rest of the nation poor and stupid through lawsuits, mind-numbing TV, and tight corporate control of the media and the government.
I fucking hate guns. They scare the living daylights out of me. But when they start outlawing software choice (and mark my words, they WILL), I WILL start blowing some heads off. This is supposed to be the land of freedom, not the land of "Hello Mr. Senator, here is a fat campaign donation... now about that new computerized voting system................"
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You obviously went to a better fifth grade class than I did. I was virtually the only one in my fifth grade class who could put together a coherent sentence.
I'm absolutely sick and tired of seeing this happening. "Mac" is NOT an acronym! It's "Mac", not "MAC"!!!!
This is FLAMEBAIT!? How the hell is this FLAMEBAIT?! OK, is there a RIAA employee moderating this week, or has RIAA become the latest Big Corporate Entity That We All Know Is Evil But Everyone Loves To Defend (a la MS)? I've seen a billion supposed 'geeks' defend MS; is the RIAA next?
We all know what's going on. The people who really need to read this sort of paper are the PHBs-- the sort of people who would believe the latest Gartner Group rubbish stating that Linux should be avoided...
This has nothing to DO with the FCC. We're talking about the UK here.
...could have anything to do with this? They are rapidly setting themselves up as 'audio-fascists', and are probably afraid that such devices would be hacked (e.g. provided with a more powerful amplifier and a bigger antenna) and thus become an unlicensed (and hence NON-MONEY-MAKING) FM station...
It seems like the RIAA want to enforce a situation where ONLY "approved", tribute-paying stations have ANY sort of FM transmitter equipment.
Am I the only one who'd rather play great retro-games in emulators than give in and buy Windoze so they can play the latest FPSes that make teenagers squeal?
No one ever said anything about 'more' bugs. You just were a little out of it. No need to defend yourself beyond noting your state of quasi-inebriation. ;)
I agree with you 1000%. Sad to see how such a thing gets one modded down nowadays. It's no longer acceptable, even on SlashDot, to verbally and unambiguously disapprove of people who use MS technologies...
That's okay. I just find it disturbing how many "typos" involving ADDING APOSTROPHES TO THINGS, or TAKING AWAY APOSTROPHES WHERE THEY BELONG, seem to be happening nowadays. It's like a plague. I'm sick of reading things like "You cant do that cuz your not 21", or "They have the best pizza's Ive ever tasted"...
I'd love such a goodie. Email me and I'll trade some goodies for it? ;) (jb at twu dot net)
Orwell's _1984_?
...is the bit in the referenced article where Steve "Monkey Boy" Ballmer is claiming that not only does Windows have a lower TCO than Linux, but MS is faster at patching bugs than the OSS/FS community...
If it weren't such a sobering reality that many businesspeople actually believe such BS, it would be funny...
How about stupid admins who don't know how to spell "admins"? (Hint: It doesn't have an apostrophe in it.)
OK... the article notes:
"The next step is particularly fascinating, if a signal appears to have increased since the first observation put that star on the checklist."
How could it have increased?
These signals are coming from light-years away.
Even if the aliens learned, somehow (say, a year ago) that we were listening for them, finding this out instantly via some sort of "subspace radio" or the like, the signals we have received since then were ALREADY IN TRANSIT when the SETI@home program began.
Besides, there'd be no way for them to know we're listening, let alone to find that out within the last year.
Or maybe I just grossly misread the poster's meaning?
A) Ain't gonna happen.
B) I don't want Windows, even if it IS free. Some things are more important than money (like stopping progress-slowing, evil monopolies).
...but in practice, it could simply be used as an argument FOR centralized, online voting. Please note that the current e-voting system currently in testing is Windows-specific... this could end up being a very bad thing. ("To vote, you must run one of the following operating systems: Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows ME, Windows 98. Other systems are not supported on www.evote.gov at this time. We apologize for any inconvenience this might cause...")
I KNOW I'm paranoid, but still...I like to think long-term.
"apple" also brings up Apple Computer as the first link...
And the plural of "encyclopedia" is "encyclopedias". There is no apostrophe in it.
I wasn't saying *I* wanted to make the case. I was saying *SCO'S EVIL LAWYERS* could make the case.I think all of this is rubbish.
To most people, if it isn't on the Web site, it doesn't exist. It would be VERY easy to make the case that FTP is only for "hackers" and/or "highly technical individuals". Hell, SCO could even argue that those who use FTP to obtain software from them that they removed from their Web site were "hacking", and that they "should have known that this software was no longer for public download or use without appropriate licensing and payment." They could throw out some nice, Judge-convincing BS like "We only made these files available via the 'FTP' program, which is only for highly advanced technical individuals such as corporate IT managers, for the convenience of our paying customers. It was not intended for download by unlicensed individuals, and in fact doing so constitutes hacking as per the terms of the DMCA..." And the Judge would buy it hook, line and sinker, since it rings true of the Good Ol' American style of corporate IP-speak.
...what about NONCOMMERCIAL Linux use? Such as, for instance, me running Debian/PPC on my Power Mac G4 (which I am doing at this very moment)?
... what was that little "rumor" or "guess" several people have posted, about Microsoft being in league with SCO?
Also, wouldn't the whole "binary-only" thing destroy half of the usefulness of Linux? Half the whole point of Linux is that you are free to do what you wish to it-- including modifying it. Not to be a tinfoil-hat loony about things, but
Ignoring, for a moment, the fact that the US economy is not a closed system (money comes in from other countries, and goes out TO other countries), yes, it IS a fucking zero-sum game. Your claim of "If GNP falls, money does, in a sense, disappear." remains unsubstantiated. Prove it.
The notes and coins, and their digital equivalents in banks' computer systems, DO NOT disappear. And every year, the government prints MORE money, adding MORE dollars and cents into the total size of the US economy.
Let's say (again, ignoring global factors; when the US economy is in the shithole, as often as not so is the international economy.) that, in January of 1929, there were, say, $50 billion in assets floating around the US. In January of 1930, there would be NO LESS THAN $50 billion in assets floating around the US. The difference is that instead of the Average Joe having a decent (for those days) salary and the Rockefellers being rich-rich-rich, it would be the Average Joe having a LOUSY salary (or none at all) and the Rockefellers being rich-rich-rich-RICH-RICH-RICH!
Notes and coins, and/or their digital avatars, ARE MONEY. They DO NOT DISAPPEAR. It is like matter-- matter cannot be destroyed. It can merely be converted into energy. Money flows from person to person, but it does not lessen in the process.
Are you going to give credence to your own claims, or are you just going to call me a pinko? (A badge I wear with pride. Bring it on, fascist.)
I know that. Jesus! You're a worse nitpicker than I am.
It wasn't intended as regexp. Most SlashDotters nowadays come from a DOS/Windoze background, and would not understand regexp. Hence, I used something more understandable to those used to "delete *.*", or whatever the command would be in DOS. I always forget. (delete? erase? remove?)
;)
If I were going for regexp, I'd just go "(RI|MP)AA". But most Windozies would parse that as "Rimpaa", which sounds more like Puumba's evil twin brother than anything.
Yes, interesting indeed. The US was founded by people who committed acts of treason and war against Great Britain-- and for a just cause, I believe. (I respect the American Ideal-- which is why I hate America-- that is, in its present form.) When you are faced with tyrants, physically fighting for your rights is one of the many options you have. Not the best, perhaps, but it's on the plate. This is the sort of thing that the hick gun-nuts are always ranting about. As much as I despise guns and gun-nuts (they frighten me), they are right on one thing-- you have to be prepared to fight for your rights, and the rights of your country(wo)men, when they are being oppressed by tyrants.
.1% of Americans, where they could control 50% of the wealth and keep the rest of the nation poor and stupid through lawsuits, mind-numbing TV, and tight corporate control of the media and the government.
This nation started as the United States of America. Today, it's the United States of Microsoft, Wal-Mart, AOL/TimeWarner/CNN/KitchenSink, and HighPricedCorporateLawyers, with lawsuits and injustice for all. I don't want it to come to revolution, but if that is what is necessary to restore some sanity to the nation, so be it. Let the Revolution come.
They're already testing a voting system that requires users to run Windows. Some day, they will-- mark my words-- make it impossible (perhaps even illegal, for "security purposes" or some other such nice-sounding piece of BS) to vote unless you run Windows. And that day, I will become one of the gun nuts... and the man (surely not a woman?) who makes that decision will find their brains splattered on the far wall of their posh office, and the money that Microsoft gave them (as a "campaign donation"! Hah!) pilfered and given to charity where it belongs.
If there is no one else left in this country who gives a shit about these things, so be it. I care about my rights, and I care about the well-being of the country. We were not founded to become a playground for the richest
I fucking hate guns. They scare the living daylights out of me. But when they start outlawing software choice (and mark my words, they WILL), I WILL start blowing some heads off. This is supposed to be the land of freedom, not the land of "Hello Mr. Senator, here is a fat campaign donation... now about that new computerized voting system................"