Well, like with anything 'web' related, I'm a huge proponent of the C.A.S.E. method. (Copy And Steal Everything).
Take what others do..learn from it..use it, and hopefully improve on it.
Just because someone made money on it first, doesn't mean you can't make money off it too...and don't have to bother with all the R&E on the *new* original idea.
"I like meat, but the fact that it came out of a corpse is far more distasteful to me than growing in a lab ever could be."
Well, I think the way you feel is becoming more and more common...and I think that is due in large part to how abstracted food has become to people. Between processed foods...and well, the state you buy even more raw ingredients.
The other day I was cooking with this chick, I like to cook...and was going to have her mix up some ground beef or something....and she was almost horrified to have to *touch* raw meat. I was thinking....geez..when did this become a problem.
Heck...good thing it wasn't like the old days when you sent a kid out into the yard to grab a live chicken, and snap its neck and bring it in to clean..etc. Today, I guess people don't realize that that chicken wasn't born and raised in that cellophane wrapped carton.
I've actually been amazed in the past decade or so..on how many people (men and women) that are squeamish about handling raw meat...hell, these days I amaze people in being able to cut up a whole chicken into parts cleanly, safely and quickly...
People need to remember, we are just animals with a broader vocabulary. But just like the things we eat....we sleep, shit, fuck...and kill and eat other living things in order to survive.
They can try to grow all the 'meat' they want in a petri dish, but fuck that...I'll buy real dead animal meat.
Hell, even today...for GOOD meat, I'll pay the premium. We have a few stores around now...that sell prime grade beef...and they dry age it too. Sure, that big 1.5 inch thick tbone was just over (about $22/lb) $50....but it was worth every penny of it!!
No, I don't do that level of beef very often, but it is a treat from time to time.
I'm more into quality over quantity these days....I don't eat cheap ass beef. I'll get something good....
I can't see my ass ever buying artificial, lab grown 'meat'. Why would I ever want such a thing?
Hell, at this point in my life..I"m trying to avoid as many artificial, man made foods as I can...I shop on th edges of the grocery store, and avoid as much of the processed shit as I can...I cook from scratch.
"You sound like a fucking sociopath, good luck in your search for true romance."
Really? Wow..that's pretty strong language.
I'm fairly successful, and pretty happy. Am I looking right now for really LONG term, permanent live in or marriage in a woman. No. Not looking for that.
I like variety...and actually, I like dating multiple women at once, keeps me from getting bored...etc. And yes...I'm up front about this too. If a girl doesn't like that, well, she's free to go on about her merry way and I wish her the best of luck.
Am I saying I'll never find one and just settle down? No...I'm open to that. I've had several long term (4-7+ year relationships) with women...been engaged once..lived with some...etc. But just never felt with any of them, I could just stay with them forever, that is just not me. I'm still friends and in contact with most of them...
Anyway, I dunno why the harsh words...meeting, dating, and yes...bedding women, is a skill just like any other a man can learn. And it takes work and study like any other skill, but for some reason, society has made men think it is something that just 'happens'...well, it 'can' but very seldom does.
"My gainfully employed, 4-year-degree holding, property owning, 21.5 BMI ass is obviously doing something wrong, because it's not working."
How many women are you approaching each day? How many on weekdays vs weekends?
If you aren't approaching as many as you can...well, a good looking smart one isn't just going to fall in your lap. Most guys I find that say this...aren't trying hard enough. Make it a point that each day..you talk to the most beautiful women you see out...each and EVERY day. Even if it is just saying hello....asking for the time...etc...practice makes perfect.
For some reason...women look at and notice SHOES. Get a couple of nice pairs of shoes. Dress shoes.at least one pair with laces, and spend at least $170 or more on them.
Women know shoes....and do notice, often the 1st or 2nd thing about you what is on you feet. I don't understand it, but then again...don't have to, just do it.
The trick is...you don't put your template together with cliche stuff...start with something you'd write to one person.....leave space to put something personal in it...
And also...your first email is not going to be a tome telling everything about yourself....you want it to be brief...and leading to meeting in person.
You WANT to keep emails to the bare minimun....save most of what you want to talk about (mostly her) for doing in person.....keep as much mystery about yoursel...you want HER to statt to want dig in and find out who you are..don't volunteer too much...etc.
And..you do need to contact as many chicks as possible on these sites....play the numbers game.
"Yes! Read the Game, because women are just like Pavlov's dogs!"
Well...we all ARE animals....and we have behaviors and wants and needs that do work on that low level. You just need to modify things to make it work in today's world.
The Game is a bit old and long in the tooth..but it does set down a good idea of how to start learning how women work...and start to relate to more modern works.
And at the very least...it is hard to argue with what does work for many men.
"Be prepared to talk about things that interest you, and be prepared to listen to her talk about things that interest her. Take an interest in her activities and work, make her laugh, and be polite, and you'll probably get a second date"
I try to listen to them, and get the woman to talk...que off of thing she says, and keep the conversation going that way.
There has never been a woman on the planet earth that was out with a man, and complained that "she didn't get to talk enough about herself".
One good thing to do...while doing this, try to generate good feelings with her with what she says, get her to associate good feeling from places and stories she tells you...to sitting and talking with you.
And...do NOT do the interview questions...where you from, what do you do, etc. You can start with where are you from, but listen to what she says...if she's from Knoxville, TN...ask her how she liked growing up there. Often if she liked it...she'll mention what she liked about it, if not that is your next question. Get her to tell you about things she did as a kid that she liked.
From things like that, you can usually find something common with your childhood...and you can mention that...in how you now relate to her and her experiences...etc. This is one way to build a rapport, with her....just guide her through conversation...throwing in bits and pieces how you relate to things she does.
There are tons of other methods...but this is a good basic thing anyone can do.
You generally start off a little stand offish...do the banter thing...a good joke...or whatever...and as you start to talk with her and move into the rapport phase of things...when you talk and mention things in common, make sure and reach out..touch her on the arm (but be natural about it)...touching and talking like this, will put you more and more into her trust zone...touch is also VERY important while doing this.
What I mentioned above, is also one reason I almost NEVER go out on a first date to eat at a restaurant, how do you do this sitting across from each other? I like to do something different on first dates...something that stands out from what every other guy she dates does....maybe stop at a bar , have a couple of shots and go to the bug museum..you can talk there, get close to her...etc.
"Wow...treating dating like a corporate job hunt, form letter with demographic research and all. That's super-creepy man."
No..not creepy, it is just a big game, and you have to be willing to play it to get success.
Read the book "The Game"...that is a good place to start to see how early on the PUA (Pick Up Artist) community started studying and analyzing what women look for and respond too. From there, look around for other sources...some guys, the ones that seem to get laid all the time without trying..they are 'naturals'. They do the things that many of the PUA crowd studied and learned to do. If nothing else, looking into this is a VERY interesting study in the human psyche...especially men/women interactions.
But, like anything...if you want success, you have to be willing to work at it..AND be willing to learn what has worked from others. Heck, I've always believed in the C.A.S.E method (Copy And Steal from Everyone).
And playing the numbers game...it makes sense. Heck, I try to make it a point EVERY single day I go out and about in life, to approach and at least say hello to the most beautiful woman I see. This helps to lower approach anxiety...it also helps to meet and approach more women. And, if later that day, I see a better looking chick...I have to go approach her.
So, yes, like any skill....you DO have to learn from others (unless you are a rare natural) and it doesn't hurt to be methodical and logical trying to figure what does and does not work, and tune your game accordingly.
Why do so many men think love and attraction just 'happen'? So many men accept this, yet think nothing of sweating, researching and studying to learn any other skill they wish to attain.
One thing I've learned...and I'm STILL a novice...getting laid or getting a girlfriend, had nothing to do with "getting lucky". It has to do with work and persistence, knowing how to project confidence and other traits women are naturally, primitively attracted to.
"Something tells me you are one of those who only wants to date a supermodel and every other woman is "too fat"
No...while yes, I have dated some women that were exceptionally beautiful, some that had modeled before...
No..that's not all I date. I do however consider fat women to be....fat women. I'm not looking for anyone that is over weight. I'm working hard on diet, and regular exercise to try to keep myself in good healthy shape. I expect the same from my woman.
I'm not looking for any women, that if they are on top...that I'll risk suffocation. I'd like in the 5'8 range..in the 170lbs or less range....at the very lest, I don't want women with a gut...or muffin tops....big asses.....and even if not fat, I'm a bit hesitant about thick wrists or thick ankles, so far those have been proved to be almost sure signs of weigh problems down the road.
"You know, I've heard this repeated so many times, but I can't even get a response from girls on dating websites despite not only having a job, but a well paying job. "
Hmm....just how many girls on the websites are you approaching? You know, it is really a HUGE numbers game on the internet, maybe even more so than in real life meatspace.
Are you trying to contact 100's or more of women a week?
Make yourself out a basic 'template' of an email to use...with some spaces in there to maybe personalize your message a little bit...maybe to mention one specific thing you read about her (if you bother reading them, and don't go straight from looks). Anyway, use this basic 'canned' email and send it out over and over and over and over and...well, you get the idea. Heck, even send it to chicks you might not even be interested in, just to gage response. If it doesn't work...tweak it a little.
I actually heard some guys did the reverse engineering thing...they created a fictitious account as a chick, with good looking pics and all...just for the sole objective...of seeing what other guys were posting on their profiles, and the types of emails they were sending. Some guys doing this, even would have girls that were just friends, read what they guys were sending, just to see what they thought they as women would respond to.
The researchers used all this to tune their emails to women, and started getting a lot more response (of course, they STILL sent out 100's and 1000s of emails to women, but they were better quality emails.
"Hmmm...and your definition of a 'deadbeat dude' includes what, exactly?"
Apparently, just something as basic as having a job (especially one that doesn't include wearing a nametag saying 'Hi, my name is...') is a hard thing for women to find out there.
And apparently it is even harder to find men that not only have jobs, but have decent hygiene, wear decent clothes and have a personality greater than that of a small soap dish.
At least..that's what I hear from women out there. Having a job...really gets you ahead of a LOT of the crowd of guys out there on these things. I'd guess what I described above are some things that would describe a 'deadbeat dude'.
"On the contrary, I recently experimented with online dating myself. In my experience, the site should actually be called "plenty of whales" though..."
Yeah..I was looking on there the other day, and WOW...there are a lot of BIG women on there.
Hard to find anything worth hitting on on POF.
Frankly, I don't buy enough flour really to 'use' on those women I've seen on that site, and I tend to shop in bulk at Sam's clubs......
"That won't accomplish anything. The proles will just change the channel to their "American Idol" or other similar drivel when they get bored. The American public is too apathetic about the political institution in this country to actual pay attention to what it does or to even have a hope of real change."
I am, however...more than a little surprised at the fact that the Egypt protest thing has occupied the news....so much so, that the Charlie Sheen hookers-coke-hospital incident received very light attention!!!
"The 60's style protests don't work because of the lack of stamina of the protestors. What I mean by that is the people protest for one day and think they've made their point."
And that day better be a WEEKEND day too....'cause I really don't have time to miss work, etc. Many of us out here have obligations and can't just afford to drop everything that supports our daily life, to do a protest.
"While it is true we can not fix the world, we can at least listen and give voice to our opposition.
Unfortunately, even those that speak of these incidents are also under attack, labeled as "liberal" or "democrat" which somehow translates to "Commies".
Err...in exactly what reality have the liberals/democrat/commies been any more attentive, or responsive to listening to the opposition, or caring about the plight of others...in this case US Federal breaches of private citizens' rights...than the republicans or any other political faction over there?
The more basic question is...does this guy NOT have a fucking phone he can use to call his family? I hear snail mail still works...hell, good old fashioned email?!?!
I don't have a FB account, and don't plan to get one...I mean, what's the need for it? I communicate just fine, and VERY regularlly with friends and relatives all over the US without FB. I did well in the past before FB and continue to do just fine without it...and therefore don't risk the privacy problems inherent with a FB account.
I'm just wondering how the hell I"m supposed to get my car home after we've been to the bar? I mean, you pick up a chick....how are you supposed to get her home...walk to find a bus stop?? Talk about a mood killer.
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Wow..if this goes through...I guess you can pretty much kiss the bar business goodbye....I mean, the number of people that leave all those bars you see while driving by full of cars have VERY few of those patrons that leave legally sober, especially in light of the ridiculously low BAC they have now....0.08?!?! One grown man haveing only 3x glasses of wine with a meal can be dangerously close to the legal limit, without being any type problem on the road.
"And with many credit cards you get rfid whether you want it or not"
No, you have a choice. My banks tried to send me RFID's on my last card renewals..I called and told them I did NOT want that....they sent me new, non RFID cards in a matter of days.
"Sure, the chip can be there, but if you don't have a NFP account then it doesn't matter.
From what I heard it's for small transactions; like convenience stores, lunch outings, vending machines, etc. A limit of $50 a day or such. You can't buy a car with it.
The NFP chip needs to be less then 4 inches from the scanning device to work; if it uses a 2-way key encryption (layered with session encryption), so it would be difficult for a 3rd party device to snoop anything useful."
Ok, thanks..didn't realize this would be some special account you set up for this...new concept to me.
I was guessing at the very least, on an iPHone, that it might automatically try to even hook into the CC you give iTunes for an account signup. I've never bought anything from iTunes, but they did get a card from me a long time ago when I signed up for an account...seems they required it.
As for the having to be 4" away from it....and all the safety stuff, isn't that exactly what they said for RFID chips, like the ones in US passports now?
Shortly after implementation, I recall reading about a guy that showed he was able to construct a rig to scan and pick up and read peoples' RFID passports from distance.
I just would not trust this not be be done in the same type manner as soon as these things are out.
I'd prefer that it not even be installed on the phone I bought (was waiting for next gen of iPhone to replace my 3GS). This seems kind of like the other day when I found out that on a new corvette...OnStar installation is NOT an optiong anymore. But if you get a vette, you can manually remove the fucker.....guessing it would be nigh impossible to physically remove or deactivate this chip without screwing up the phone.
"Which does seem odd from one point of view, but makes sense from another. In the US you have right of way if you step out in front of a car (possibly not in every state) and they must stop. So the Jaywalking laws are to stop you from abusing that power."
Well, within reason. I mean, if you're driving down the road....no crossing zone there, and you're doing the speed limit, etc....if someone suddenly jumps out in front of you, and you hit and even kill them, you're not gonna get busted for that.
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Take what others do..learn from it..use it, and hopefully improve on it.
Just because someone made money on it first, doesn't mean you can't make money off it too...and don't have to bother with all the R&E on the *new* original idea.
Well, I think the way you feel is becoming more and more common...and I think that is due in large part to how abstracted food has become to people. Between processed foods...and well, the state you buy even more raw ingredients.
The other day I was cooking with this chick, I like to cook...and was going to have her mix up some ground beef or something....and she was almost horrified to have to *touch* raw meat. I was thinking....geez..when did this become a problem.
Heck...good thing it wasn't like the old days when you sent a kid out into the yard to grab a live chicken, and snap its neck and bring it in to clean..etc. Today, I guess people don't realize that that chicken wasn't born and raised in that cellophane wrapped carton.
I've actually been amazed in the past decade or so..on how many people (men and women) that are squeamish about handling raw meat...hell, these days I amaze people in being able to cut up a whole chicken into parts cleanly, safely and quickly...
People need to remember, we are just animals with a broader vocabulary. But just like the things we eat....we sleep, shit, fuck...and kill and eat other living things in order to survive.
They can try to grow all the 'meat' they want in a petri dish, but fuck that...I'll buy real dead animal meat.
Hell, even today...for GOOD meat, I'll pay the premium. We have a few stores around now...that sell prime grade beef...and they dry age it too. Sure, that big 1.5 inch thick tbone was just over (about $22/lb) $50....but it was worth every penny of it!!
No, I don't do that level of beef very often, but it is a treat from time to time.
I'm more into quality over quantity these days....I don't eat cheap ass beef. I'll get something good....
I can't see my ass ever buying artificial, lab grown 'meat'. Why would I ever want such a thing?
Hell, at this point in my life..I"m trying to avoid as many artificial, man made foods as I can...I shop on th edges of the grocery store, and avoid as much of the processed shit as I can...I cook from scratch.
This does not sounds like a food source for me.
I DO enjoy myself...but I also enjoy results. I got tired of the old days...going out - nothing. going out - nothing...etc.
I rather like going out and getting results...numbers, dancing, fun...next dates...and yes...SEX.
Really? Wow..that's pretty strong language.
I'm fairly successful, and pretty happy. Am I looking right now for really LONG term, permanent live in or marriage in a woman. No. Not looking for that.
I like variety...and actually, I like dating multiple women at once, keeps me from getting bored...etc. And yes...I'm up front about this too. If a girl doesn't like that, well, she's free to go on about her merry way and I wish her the best of luck.
Am I saying I'll never find one and just settle down? No...I'm open to that. I've had several long term (4-7+ year relationships) with women...been engaged once..lived with some...etc. But just never felt with any of them, I could just stay with them forever, that is just not me. I'm still friends and in contact with most of them...
Anyway, I dunno why the harsh words...meeting, dating, and yes...bedding women, is a skill just like any other a man can learn. And it takes work and study like any other skill, but for some reason, society has made men think it is something that just 'happens'...well, it 'can' but very seldom does.
How many women are you approaching each day? How many on weekdays vs weekends?
If you aren't approaching as many as you can...well, a good looking smart one isn't just going to fall in your lap. Most guys I find that say this...aren't trying hard enough. Make it a point that each day..you talk to the most beautiful women you see out...each and EVERY day. Even if it is just saying hello....asking for the time...etc...practice makes perfect.
For some reason...women look at and notice SHOES. Get a couple of nice pairs of shoes. Dress shoes.at least one pair with laces, and spend at least $170 or more on them.
Women know shoes....and do notice, often the 1st or 2nd thing about you what is on you feet. I don't understand it, but then again...don't have to, just do it.
And also...your first email is not going to be a tome telling everything about yourself....you want it to be brief...and leading to meeting in person.
You WANT to keep emails to the bare minimun....save most of what you want to talk about (mostly her) for doing in person.....keep as much mystery about yoursel...you want HER to statt to want dig in and find out who you are..don't volunteer too much...etc.
And..you do need to contact as many chicks as possible on these sites....play the numbers game.
Well...we all ARE animals....and we have behaviors and wants and needs that do work on that low level. You just need to modify things to make it work in today's world.
The Game is a bit old and long in the tooth..but it does set down a good idea of how to start learning how women work...and start to relate to more modern works.
And at the very least...it is hard to argue with what does work for many men.
I try to listen to them, and get the woman to talk...que off of thing she says, and keep the conversation going that way.
There has never been a woman on the planet earth that was out with a man, and complained that "she didn't get to talk enough about herself".
One good thing to do...while doing this, try to generate good feelings with her with what she says, get her to associate good feeling from places and stories she tells you...to sitting and talking with you.
And...do NOT do the interview questions...where you from, what do you do, etc. You can start with where are you from, but listen to what she says...if she's from Knoxville, TN...ask her how she liked growing up there. Often if she liked it...she'll mention what she liked about it, if not that is your next question. Get her to tell you about things she did as a kid that she liked.
From things like that, you can usually find something common with your childhood...and you can mention that...in how you now relate to her and her experiences...etc. This is one way to build a rapport, with her....just guide her through conversation...throwing in bits and pieces how you relate to things she does.
There are tons of other methods...but this is a good basic thing anyone can do.
You generally start off a little stand offish...do the banter thing...a good joke...or whatever...and as you start to talk with her and move into the rapport phase of things...when you talk and mention things in common, make sure and reach out..touch her on the arm (but be natural about it)...touching and talking like this, will put you more and more into her trust zone...touch is also VERY important while doing this.
What I mentioned above, is also one reason I almost NEVER go out on a first date to eat at a restaurant, how do you do this sitting across from each other? I like to do something different on first dates...something that stands out from what every other guy she dates does....maybe stop at a bar , have a couple of shots and go to the bug museum..you can talk there, get close to her...etc.
No..not creepy, it is just a big game, and you have to be willing to play it to get success.
Read the book "The Game"...that is a good place to start to see how early on the PUA (Pick Up Artist) community started studying and analyzing what women look for and respond too. From there, look around for other sources...some guys, the ones that seem to get laid all the time without trying..they are 'naturals'. They do the things that many of the PUA crowd studied and learned to do. If nothing else, looking into this is a VERY interesting study in the human psyche...especially men/women interactions.
But, like anything...if you want success, you have to be willing to work at it..AND be willing to learn what has worked from others. Heck, I've always believed in the C.A.S.E method (Copy And Steal from Everyone).
And playing the numbers game...it makes sense. Heck, I try to make it a point EVERY single day I go out and about in life, to approach and at least say hello to the most beautiful woman I see. This helps to lower approach anxiety...it also helps to meet and approach more women. And, if later that day, I see a better looking chick...I have to go approach her.
So, yes, like any skill....you DO have to learn from others (unless you are a rare natural) and it doesn't hurt to be methodical and logical trying to figure what does and does not work, and tune your game accordingly.
Why do so many men think love and attraction just 'happen'? So many men accept this, yet think nothing of sweating, researching and studying to learn any other skill they wish to attain.
One thing I've learned...and I'm STILL a novice...getting laid or getting a girlfriend, had nothing to do with "getting lucky". It has to do with work and persistence, knowing how to project confidence and other traits women are naturally, primitively attracted to.
No...while yes, I have dated some women that were exceptionally beautiful, some that had modeled before...
No..that's not all I date. I do however consider fat women to be....fat women. I'm not looking for anyone that is over weight. I'm working hard on diet, and regular exercise to try to keep myself in good healthy shape. I expect the same from my woman.
I'm not looking for any women, that if they are on top...that I'll risk suffocation. I'd like in the 5'8 range..in the 170lbs or less range....at the very lest, I don't want women with a gut...or muffin tops....big asses.....and even if not fat, I'm a bit hesitant about thick wrists or thick ankles, so far those have been proved to be almost sure signs of weigh problems down the road.
Hmm....just how many girls on the websites are you approaching? You know, it is really a HUGE numbers game on the internet, maybe even more so than in real life meatspace.
Are you trying to contact 100's or more of women a week?
Make yourself out a basic 'template' of an email to use...with some spaces in there to maybe personalize your message a little bit...maybe to mention one specific thing you read about her (if you bother reading them, and don't go straight from looks). Anyway, use this basic 'canned' email and send it out over and over and over and over and...well, you get the idea. Heck, even send it to chicks you might not even be interested in, just to gage response. If it doesn't work...tweak it a little.
I actually heard some guys did the reverse engineering thing...they created a fictitious account as a chick, with good looking pics and all...just for the sole objective...of seeing what other guys were posting on their profiles, and the types of emails they were sending. Some guys doing this, even would have girls that were just friends, read what they guys were sending, just to see what they thought they as women would respond to.
The researchers used all this to tune their emails to women, and started getting a lot more response (of course, they STILL sent out 100's and 1000s of emails to women, but they were better quality emails.
Apparently, just something as basic as having a job (especially one that doesn't include wearing a nametag saying 'Hi, my name is...') is a hard thing for women to find out there.
And apparently it is even harder to find men that not only have jobs, but have decent hygiene, wear decent clothes and have a personality greater than that of a small soap dish.
At least..that's what I hear from women out there. Having a job...really gets you ahead of a LOT of the crowd of guys out there on these things. I'd guess what I described above are some things that would describe a 'deadbeat dude'.
Yeah..I was looking on there the other day, and WOW...there are a lot of BIG women on there.
Hard to find anything worth hitting on on POF.
Frankly, I don't buy enough flour really to 'use' on those women I've seen on that site, and I tend to shop in bulk at Sam's clubs......
So what...look at all the money he has. Many people do the douche thing for free
Hell, I'd turn up the 'asshole' factor as much as needed if I could somehow figure a way to make loads of money....most people would I dare say.
I am, however...more than a little surprised at the fact that the Egypt protest thing has occupied the news....so much so, that the Charlie Sheen hookers-coke-hospital incident received very light attention!!!
And that day better be a WEEKEND day too....'cause I really don't have time to miss work, etc. Many of us out here have obligations and can't just afford to drop everything that supports our daily life, to do a protest.
Err...in exactly what reality have the liberals/democrat/commies been any more attentive, or responsive to listening to the opposition, or caring about the plight of others...in this case US Federal breaches of private citizens' rights...than the republicans or any other political faction over there?
I don't have a FB account, and don't plan to get one...I mean, what's the need for it? I communicate just fine, and VERY regularlly with friends and relatives all over the US without FB. I did well in the past before FB and continue to do just fine without it...and therefore don't risk the privacy problems inherent with a FB account.
Wow..that isn't even considered a binge bout of drinking down here in New Orleans...that's pretty standard fare.
Wow..if this goes through...I guess you can pretty much kiss the bar business goodbye....I mean, the number of people that leave all those bars you see while driving by full of cars have VERY few of those patrons that leave legally sober, especially in light of the ridiculously low BAC they have now....0.08?!?! One grown man haveing only 3x glasses of wine with a meal can be dangerously close to the legal limit, without being any type problem on the road.
No, you have a choice. My banks tried to send me RFID's on my last card renewals..I called and told them I did NOT want that....they sent me new, non RFID cards in a matter of days.
You don't have to use them if you do not want to
From what I heard it's for small transactions; like convenience stores, lunch outings, vending machines, etc. A limit of $50 a day or such. You can't buy a car with it.
The NFP chip needs to be less then 4 inches from the scanning device to work; if it uses a 2-way key encryption (layered with session encryption), so it would be difficult for a 3rd party device to snoop anything useful."
Ok, thanks..didn't realize this would be some special account you set up for this...new concept to me.
I was guessing at the very least, on an iPHone, that it might automatically try to even hook into the CC you give iTunes for an account signup. I've never bought anything from iTunes, but they did get a card from me a long time ago when I signed up for an account...seems they required it.
As for the having to be 4" away from it....and all the safety stuff, isn't that exactly what they said for RFID chips, like the ones in US passports now?
Shortly after implementation, I recall reading about a guy that showed he was able to construct a rig to scan and pick up and read peoples' RFID passports from distance.
I just would not trust this not be be done in the same type manner as soon as these things are out.
I'd prefer that it not even be installed on the phone I bought (was waiting for next gen of iPhone to replace my 3GS). This seems kind of like the other day when I found out that on a new corvette...OnStar installation is NOT an optiong anymore. But if you get a vette, you can manually remove the fucker.....guessing it would be nigh impossible to physically remove or deactivate this chip without screwing up the phone.
Well, within reason. I mean, if you're driving down the road....no crossing zone there, and you're doing the speed limit, etc....if someone suddenly jumps out in front of you, and you hit and even kill them, you're not gonna get busted for that.