"For a new house out in the suburbs plastic flooring of some description may be the most cost effective way to go."
I wonder....is this maybe regional?
I live in the South...and most homes I know of down here, especially new ones, are mostly done with wood and tile as the primary flooring materials, along with carpet. I'm seeing carpet even not being put on that many new places. Just anecdotal observations mind you.
And I'm talking largely suburban areas, in that there aren't that many 'urban' areas down here...not with the super concentration of people in a city area like NYC.
"Most people in the U.S. have vinyl floors in the kitchen. I notice that people who have vinyl floors throughout the house do not clean them as often as a kitchen floor is cleaned. "
Do THAT many houses have vinyl floors these days? Most every house I know of, that is either new, or has been restored/updated...have wood, tile and even carpet on the floors.
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"As of December 2001, an estimated 14,262 persons have been diagnosed with AIDS as a result of transfusing contaminated blood or blood products. [ucsf.edu]"
Yes..I'd say largely both example...were fairly isolated incidences.
I never said any time in the past was a Xanadu. But, that life felt in general, safer, and society, a nicer place to live, grow and raise a family.
And in the early 80's....if you weren't doing risky AIDS type behaviors, odds were still at that time, overwhelminly in your favor you could fuck all you wanted, and not die. Even more so in the decades beforehand.
"By that reasoning then it IS okay for me to walk into Barnes & Noble bookstore and start scanning the books into my portable device. Then take it home and publish it online. After all the books are just sitting there, in public view, for everyone to see or copy. Right?"
No, your example is not like mine. B&N is a PRIVATE establishment, involved in commerce, there are things you cannot do in a private business. However, if they were to set up outside their building, pages of a work 1400 ft high, they couldn't really do anything about people outside taking pictures of it and showing it to their friends, no.
The simple fact of this whole thing is...it would be simple for the news organization in question to stop Google from spidering their site. Just put up a robots.txt file on the website, and Google won't be bothering them at all.
"Wow that's a dumb argument. The INTERNET was never created with the purpose of spreading pr0n but I'd wager pr0n is the number 1 type of data flowing on the net."
Not really. It was created to transmit data in a manner that was resilient (ie to survive breakdowns along parts of the network of networks). pr0n, is just another form of data...they didn't care really what was transmitted...just that it would make it across the network.
Commerce...selling said data, was not designed into the system.
"The mid-Eighties were the height of the "Satanic ritual child abuse" witch-hunt hysteria. By the late Eighties, the idea that the world was a horrible scary place waiting to eat the poor innocent children was firmly implanted in the public consciousness."
Sounds like a west coast thing. Never heard of this type stuff in my part of the country where I grew up.
"AIDS was first identified in 1981, and HIV was identified as the pathogen responsible in 1983, IIRC. By 1989, the risks of heterosexual as well as homosexual transmission were well known... and the drugs available at the time would kill you faster than the disease itself would, as opposed to the current generation of AIDS drugs which, while they still have some pretty nasty side effects, do allow HIV-infected people to live relatively healthy lives for a number of years after infection."
No one really heard much about it till about '84 or so...and it wasn't widespread, and if you weren't an IV user or having male homosexual anal sex, you likely weren't at a risk back then...I *did* say a few years before '89. Really, till about '84-'85, you could pretty much fsck anything that moved (at least heterosexually) and not have to worry much about dying if you didn't put a helmet on your soldier.
"America has always gone through ebbs and flows of immigration, and corresponding bouts of hysteria about it. The current anti-immigrant dustup is no different from that which greeted the Scots-Irish, the Germans, the Irish Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Poles, etc. Note that most of those people's grandkids and great-grandkids now speak English and call themselves Americans. As for the specific issue of immigration from Mexico, anyone who lives in the Southwest can tell you that it's not exactly a new phenomenon."
I guess I should have been more specific. Not immigration from our southern border per se, but, illegal immigration. Not as bad as it is now...except for the big surge that was had when I think it was the Reagan admin, that offered amnesty the first time. (Still not as bad as today in numbers). At least our forefathers pretty much came in the legal route...
As Dennis Miller put it..."I'm not too concerned with anyone coming into our country, just sign the f*cking guestbook on the way in, eh?"
"There was this little thing back then called the "Cold War." Ever heard of it? I sure as hell did. I was stationed in Europe when the Wall came down. You want to talk about governments using technology against their citizens, well, holding most of the world's population in a giant game of nuclear "chicken" pretty much takes the cake"
I wasn't talking about the rest of the world...I really don't care that much what other countries' peoples let their governments do to them. I'm talking strictly about the US, and how it currently is erroding our citizen rights at an alarming pace, first with Bush, and now with the Obama administration.
I"m not saying that back then it was all rosy, every period has its problems. I'm just saying that how people treat each other, society in general, and how the govt. is working against us, was not as bad back then. I feel that life and the very minimun, was much more civil, polite and relaxed then.....and decades before. We've lost a lot of that that we had in society over the past decades, and especially so in the past 20 years...
"Do you remember twenty years ago? I do. Trust me, kid, you wouldn't want to live there."
As a matter of fact....yes. Easily unfortunately.
1989....I liked it. The 80's were kinda fun to me, but, I was referring to society in general, and we weren't quite in as much danger of losing our constitutional freedoms if I recall correctly. We didn't seem to have as much violence, parents weren't afraid to let their kids play outside. Heck, only a few short years before then...you could fsck all you wanted, and the worst you had to fear was getting a shot from the Dr. to clear up any STD you had. YOu didn't worry about dying from the act....we weren't being overrun by our neighbors from the south as badly as now. Music..well, that was starting to get bad...but, it really dead ended in the 90's.
Those are just off the top of my head...so , yes...I think it has gotten worse. Sure, the tech today is SOOO much better, but, it wasn't being twisted and used by the govt. against us quite so badly.
"Bzzz. A website is a private resource just the same as a physical store, and it has always been that way since the web's brith in 1992."
It is private only right until you 'publish' it on the web for the world to see.
A pay for site, that is restricted, is much like the bookstore example you gave, but, this is more like someone making a 1400ft document, and setting it up in Times Square in NYC, and getting pissed that people are taking pictures of it....out in a public place.
Dang...I'm trying, but, I just cannot seem to come up with a good car analogy.
"If the Daily Times doesn't want their carefully-researched articles to appear at google.com, they have every right to block google from copying that material."
Then, why don't they block Google? As other posters have said, it is insanely EASY to block google from spidering your site. Put in a robots.txt file on your server, and the Google spiders will respect them, and not traverse your site.
"It's up to to companies seeking to profit from the Internet to figure out how to use the Internet as it exists to make money. It's not up the rest of the Internet to contort itself to somehow produce a revenue stream for a given company or industry."
Unfortunately...the businesses have the politicians/lawmakers in their pocket. Actually, it is a testament to how WELL the internet and its protocols, and design with no ONE person in charge, that so far, as much as they've tried and keep trying, that it has not all yet been locked down, with no anonymity, for revenue generation ONLY.
At least for now...anyone out of John Q.Public, can hook up a computer to it, and become a peer to any other computer out there.
Frankly, I think it has to just "kill" those in charge that they got in late on the party, and cannot better control this medium and regulate it into uselessness for the masses.
Interesting arguments, but, you gotta admit, as we've gotten further and further away from those ideals, and ways of life...
We've gotten more greed, more violence, more sense of entitlement, less drive, less personal responsibility for ones own actions, less entrepreneurial, more broken families, and general falling apart of things that used to unite us all in the US.
It certainly hasn't been getting better over the past 20 years, that's for sure...
The INTERNET, and the Web on it...were never created with the purpose of generating revenue for companies. You guys jumped on late in the game, and while you're welcome to use it for said purposes, it is not tailored to those purposes. If you don't like 'sharing' via the web, don't put it out there for anybody to see for free. It is public domain (or should be) at that point.
If you don't want people or groups or other sites to access your freely publicized data....don't put it out there where anyone can get it. Either keep it off the web or put it behind a 'wall' where only paying members can see it.
"I'm curious why you need your OS to be on non-stop for more than 60 days."
I'm the opposite...at home, I never turn off any of my computers, even the ones that aren't servers.
I have them set up throughout the house, so in any room, I can check email...surf..etc. I don't just stay in one room....and I don't want to have to go in each room and start up things.
My severs? Well, by definition, don't they need to be up 24/7? Never know when I'll need to process email...that should stay on. Webserver? File servers? Yep...all of those need to be on 24/7 because you just never know when you or someone else will need access to them....
"Your life is yours to do with as you please only in as far as what you do doesn't affect others. "
Where I live...there is not the problem with 'inversion' and all that keeps smog in L.A., so my exhaust mods aren't gonna hurt anyone.
Life is too short to deny myself pleasure for the remote possibility that some generation after me might, MIGHT have some pollution problems.
I"m here on earth right now...and frankly, I'm out for ME, and no one else.
If I mod my exhaust, or throw away computers in the trash...don't worry buddy...I cannot see in any manner how it is going to directly affect your life in any manner. You've not noticed so far....until you read my post, so don't sweat it.
"Well if you're married and the wife becomes a mother, you will see a change in your sex life which won't be for the better"
That's why I don't keep them around that long. No getting married for me....I don't feel like losing half of my shit every time I decide to trade up to a newer model.
"Teens have been having sex since time immemorial, it's built into us as a species and it's why we are all here."
Yup...and this may sound strange, but, if the kids are shown how to be careful, and use contraception, I say, Kids GO have as much sex as you can while you are young.
It is the most acceptable time for you to screw another teenager...while everything on them is pert, firm, tight and you have the stamina to go multiple times for hours.
It goes downhill, especially for men as you get older. You can't keep it up forever like you did as a teen...and older chicks? Well, face it...as we get older...gravity takes its toll and things start to sag and droop, and we all get fatter. And if you're older...and are caught screwing a teen, (assuming legal age), you still get looked down upon.
So, I say..DO it now!! Do it while you can. Enjoy it!! Just don't knock the girl up.
I don't know a single guy that is older, that ever has said to me..."yep, I screwed enough of them while I was young".
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I wonder....is this maybe regional?
I live in the South...and most homes I know of down here, especially new ones, are mostly done with wood and tile as the primary flooring materials, along with carpet. I'm seeing carpet even not being put on that many new places. Just anecdotal observations mind you.
And I'm talking largely suburban areas, in that there aren't that many 'urban' areas down here...not with the super concentration of people in a city area like NYC.
Do THAT many houses have vinyl floors these days? Most every house I know of, that is either new, or has been restored/updated...have wood, tile and even carpet on the floors.
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dude.....you're quoting stuff from 2001....
the discussion is from the early, early 1980's.
I never said any time in the past was a Xanadu. But, that life felt in general, safer, and society, a nicer place to live, grow and raise a family.
And in the early 80's....if you weren't doing risky AIDS type behaviors, odds were still at that time, overwhelminly in your favor you could fuck all you wanted, and not die. Even more so in the decades beforehand.
No, your example is not like mine. B&N is a PRIVATE establishment, involved in commerce, there are things you cannot do in a private business. However, if they were to set up outside their building, pages of a work 1400 ft high, they couldn't really do anything about people outside taking pictures of it and showing it to their friends, no.
The simple fact of this whole thing is...it would be simple for the news organization in question to stop Google from spidering their site. Just put up a robots.txt file on the website, and Google won't be bothering them at all.
Not really. It was created to transmit data in a manner that was resilient (ie to survive breakdowns along parts of the network of networks). pr0n, is just another form of data...they didn't care really what was transmitted...just that it would make it across the network.
Commerce...selling said data, was not designed into the system.
Sounds like a west coast thing. Never heard of this type stuff in my part of the country where I grew up.
"AIDS was first identified in 1981, and HIV was identified as the pathogen responsible in 1983, IIRC. By 1989, the risks of heterosexual as well as homosexual transmission were well known ... and the drugs available at the time would kill you faster than the disease itself would, as opposed to the current generation of AIDS drugs which, while they still have some pretty nasty side effects, do allow HIV-infected people to live relatively healthy lives for a number of years after infection."
No one really heard much about it till about '84 or so...and it wasn't widespread, and if you weren't an IV user or having male homosexual anal sex, you likely weren't at a risk back then...I *did* say a few years before '89. Really, till about '84-'85, you could pretty much fsck anything that moved (at least heterosexually) and not have to worry much about dying if you didn't put a helmet on your soldier.
"America has always gone through ebbs and flows of immigration, and corresponding bouts of hysteria about it. The current anti-immigrant dustup is no different from that which greeted the Scots-Irish, the Germans, the Irish Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Poles, etc. Note that most of those people's grandkids and great-grandkids now speak English and call themselves Americans. As for the specific issue of immigration from Mexico, anyone who lives in the Southwest can tell you that it's not exactly a new phenomenon."
I guess I should have been more specific. Not immigration from our southern border per se, but, illegal immigration. Not as bad as it is now...except for the big surge that was had when I think it was the Reagan admin, that offered amnesty the first time. (Still not as bad as today in numbers). At least our forefathers pretty much came in the legal route...
As Dennis Miller put it..."I'm not too concerned with anyone coming into our country, just sign the f*cking guestbook on the way in, eh?"
"There was this little thing back then called the "Cold War." Ever heard of it? I sure as hell did. I was stationed in Europe when the Wall came down. You want to talk about governments using technology against their citizens, well, holding most of the world's population in a giant game of nuclear "chicken" pretty much takes the cake"
I wasn't talking about the rest of the world...I really don't care that much what other countries' peoples let their governments do to them. I'm talking strictly about the US, and how it currently is erroding our citizen rights at an alarming pace, first with Bush, and now with the Obama administration.
I"m not saying that back then it was all rosy, every period has its problems. I'm just saying that how people treat each other, society in general, and how the govt. is working against us, was not as bad back then. I feel that life and the very minimun, was much more civil, polite and relaxed then.....and decades before. We've lost a lot of that that we had in society over the past decades, and especially so in the past 20 years...
"It's the French have a different word for EVERYTHING!!"
--With apologies to Steve Martin
Except, apparently...in customer support call centers.
As a matter of fact....yes. Easily unfortunately.
1989....I liked it. The 80's were kinda fun to me, but, I was referring to society in general, and we weren't quite in as much danger of losing our constitutional freedoms if I recall correctly. We didn't seem to have as much violence, parents weren't afraid to let their kids play outside. Heck, only a few short years before then...you could fsck all you wanted, and the worst you had to fear was getting a shot from the Dr. to clear up any STD you had. YOu didn't worry about dying from the act....we weren't being overrun by our neighbors from the south as badly as now. Music..well, that was starting to get bad...but, it really dead ended in the 90's.
Those are just off the top of my head...so , yes...I think it has gotten worse. Sure, the tech today is SOOO much better, but, it wasn't being twisted and used by the govt. against us quite so badly.
It is private only right until you 'publish' it on the web for the world to see.
A pay for site, that is restricted, is much like the bookstore example you gave, but, this is more like someone making a 1400ft document, and setting it up in Times Square in NYC, and getting pissed that people are taking pictures of it....out in a public place.
Dang...I'm trying, but, I just cannot seem to come up with a good car analogy.
"If the Daily Times doesn't want their carefully-researched articles to appear at google.com, they have every right to block google from copying that material."
Then, why don't they block Google? As other posters have said, it is insanely EASY to block google from spidering your site. Put in a robots.txt file on your server, and the Google spiders will respect them, and not traverse your site.
Unfortunately...the businesses have the politicians/lawmakers in their pocket. Actually, it is a testament to how WELL the internet and its protocols, and design with no ONE person in charge, that so far, as much as they've tried and keep trying, that it has not all yet been locked down, with no anonymity, for revenue generation ONLY.
At least for now...anyone out of John Q.Public, can hook up a computer to it, and become a peer to any other computer out there.
Frankly, I think it has to just "kill" those in charge that they got in late on the party, and cannot better control this medium and regulate it into uselessness for the masses.
We've gotten more greed, more violence, more sense of entitlement, less drive, less personal responsibility for ones own actions, less entrepreneurial, more broken families, and general falling apart of things that used to unite us all in the US.
It certainly hasn't been getting better over the past 20 years, that's for sure...
Well, that worked during the Bush admin...and when the Republicans had both houses.
I think at this point, you'd have to say he was a Democrat, since they are in charge.....
The INTERNET, and the Web on it...were never created with the purpose of generating revenue for companies. You guys jumped on late in the game, and while you're welcome to use it for said purposes, it is not tailored to those purposes. If you don't like 'sharing' via the web, don't put it out there for anybody to see for free. It is public domain (or should be) at that point.
If you don't want people or groups or other sites to access your freely publicized data....don't put it out there where anyone can get it. Either keep it off the web or put it behind a 'wall' where only paying members can see it.
Wait...that might mean a lot of 'solo' flyers making it into the mile high club?!?!?
Ewwwwww....
I'm the opposite...at home, I never turn off any of my computers, even the ones that aren't servers.
I have them set up throughout the house, so in any room, I can check email...surf..etc. I don't just stay in one room....and I don't want to have to go in each room and start up things.
My severs? Well, by definition, don't they need to be up 24/7? Never know when I'll need to process email...that should stay on. Webserver? File servers? Yep...all of those need to be on 24/7 because you just never know when you or someone else will need access to them....
YOu can still do this in Louisiana too.
Where I live...there is not the problem with 'inversion' and all that keeps smog in L.A., so my exhaust mods aren't gonna hurt anyone.
Life is too short to deny myself pleasure for the remote possibility that some generation after me might, MIGHT have some pollution problems.
I"m here on earth right now...and frankly, I'm out for ME, and no one else.
If I mod my exhaust, or throw away computers in the trash...don't worry buddy...I cannot see in any manner how it is going to directly affect your life in any manner. You've not noticed so far....until you read my post, so don't sweat it.
Because...no phone I've every owned HAS a sim card. No such thing on the networks I've always been on...In my case Sprint.
Hard to know about something you've never had. Kinda of like asking an only child if they miss having brothers and sisters. How would they know?
That's why I don't keep them around that long. No getting married for me....I don't feel like losing half of my shit every time I decide to trade up to a newer model.
Yup...and this may sound strange, but, if the kids are shown how to be careful, and use contraception, I say, Kids GO have as much sex as you can while you are young.
It is the most acceptable time for you to screw another teenager...while everything on them is pert, firm, tight and you have the stamina to go multiple times for hours.
It goes downhill, especially for men as you get older. You can't keep it up forever like you did as a teen...and older chicks? Well, face it...as we get older...gravity takes its toll and things start to sag and droop, and we all get fatter. And if you're older...and are caught screwing a teen, (assuming legal age), you still get looked down upon.
So, I say..DO it now!! Do it while you can. Enjoy it!! Just don't knock the girl up.
I don't know a single guy that is older, that ever has said to me..."yep, I screwed enough of them while I was young".
Maybe not the best example....
From what I can tell, she'd doing pretty much just fine!! Money, fame, never needs to work a day in her life....
Sheesh....wish I could have that setup.