1. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade. You can continue to use open source software and older versions. - No money == no access to new features.
2. A server OS? Ok, linux is probably perfect for a set it and forget it server like a web server but I don't see how a mac mini would make a good server.
Yeah but you do realize that Open Source "Software" is the main thrust of the free software movement. Operating systems are just another "type" of software. You really should think of the OS you run as a "tool". Now if that tool, allows you to accomplish everything you want, what is the problem? I have a lot of open source software running on my mac right now and I can use the bundled developer tools (GCC) to develop more open source software if I so choose.
Stop making a "god" of RMS and "worshiping" his philosophy and think practically for a moment. If you are running Open source software "and" contributing to open source projects, you are doing more "good" for the movement than if you are just spending your time fighting with your own installation of an OS even if it happens to be open source.
How about thinking of it this way: all that time your OS that "just" works saves you can be used to be more productive personally which leaves you with more time to contribute to open source projects.
Freedom? Do you realize that you are "free" to use and develop Open source software "on" OS X and they are kind enough to include GCC with each install?
Are you talking about "real" freedom or GNU/Freedom?
Sorry, but I don't get you people. Who the fuck cares what "window manager" is running? Do you spend all your time playing with your window manager or do you run software to actually accomplish something productive?
Most people do the latter. The really don't give a crap what window manager is running as long as they have access the the software that they need/want to be productive or creative.
Only a platform zealot would go out of their way to install a different *nix OS onto a box that already comes with one.
Most users use a computer to do "stuff" rather than obsess over what OS it is running or what "window manager" they have installed.
It's the "apps" stupid. The OS is just a means to an end and not the end in itself.
Let's see, you can disable AQUA and start the included X with the ancient/creaky window manager of your choosing.
You have access to AQUA and all of the wonderful free and commericial "software" available for it.
You can get linux/bsd ports through Fink,Darwin Ports or Gentoo.
What more do you want from an OS? Do you want an OS with "less" software and hardware support? Is that what turns you on?
I have news for you. MSFT's DRM does not give you any more freedom. IT's not like a consumer is actually going to own more than one brand of music player anyway and the WMA based stores lock you into MSFT licensed players and the windows platform. There is no player on OS X capable of playing back WMA DRM'ed music let alone a way to buy or sync the music with any player.
Check the source. Right click on the widget, explore the source. Chances are, you will only find javascript and no code thar calls cocoa.
Try running that widget for the first time. You will be asked for permission to run it.
Now if you had downloaded a widget with code calling cocoa like the TV tracker widget, Safari would prompt you for permission before it finished extracting and installing the widget.
The same thing happens if you download an Application within an internet enabled dmg. Safari will prompt you for permission before depositing the app package on the desktop.
How is this insightful? Having it on does not create a security hole. Security holes are created by flaws in the design but where is the real flaw here? All I see is FUD.
Safari will warn you when downloading a widget with cocoa calls in it by saying "widgetname contains an application. Are you sure you want to continue downloading widgetname?". You have the option to abort download and installation.
Dashboard will ask you the first time a third-party widget is run and give you the option of not running it.
What more should Apple do save crippling the functionality of Dashboard for all users?
Marketshare do not create vulneratibilities. Yes, a larger userbase "can" lead ot more exploits but the size of the user base is not what motivates people to create exploits for a platform.
Most people on the mac platform have no interest in creating malware because it is an enjoyable platform to use and it is quite difficult to create malware. The reason why windows is chock full of malware is because it is so easy to exploit and because windows is not "fun" to use.
Utlimately, exploits exists solely because there is a vulnerability caused by sloppy coding and someone feels motivated to write an exploit for it. Marketshare has nothing to do with it.
I don't see this being used by larger applications given that it is possible to implement a dockling without this framework without having to comply with a viral license like the GPL.
I call bullshit. Other configuration formats are no easier to parse from scratch. In fact, you have to explicitly know what the valid key/values are in order to parse it correctly since you have no way of knowing for sure whether something is a key or a value.
With.plists, you do know exactly which is which and you can validate to ensure that you don't attempt to load a value as a key or visa versa.
You're argument is a straw man when scripting languages other than bog standard shell scripts have parsing routines for you to use. If you want to use stone knives and skins, go ahead but don't attempt to use it as an argument against using more advanced technology.
Look around you. The.NET Framework is using XML, Web services are using XML, OS X uses XML and Solaris currently use something similar to launchd instead of standard shell scripts. Is that crap too?
I don't get how you are so dead set on writing parsers from scratch for every bloody script and configuration format. How the hell can anyone besides a zealot call that better?
It seems to me that the launchd is quite small with a well defined interface. How is it more efficient to have multiple program using up "more" HD space, and more resources? How is it "good thing"?
Put away your "windoze suxors" fanboy attitude for a moment and take a look at the bloody thing before you judge.
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Here's an idea, why not discuss what he posted instead? If you worked at corporation, chances are you would be aware of other projects on the go in your department or other departments. Ever heard of the "water cooler"?
Back on topic, I hope other *nix take a similar approach. Perhaps Apple could Open source it. How about instead of being an annoying and negative ass, try reserving judgement until you see it in action?
Tiger direct does "not" have a trademark in the computer operating system category whereas Apple does have a trademark in that category which they filed for in July of 2003.
The parent company of Tiger Direct is System Max which IIRC, was one of the mac clone makers before Mr. Jobs killed them to stop Apple from self-destructing.
Unfortunately, those same upper level management did not bother to check to see if Apple had already applied of a trademark in the category of Operating systems which they did file for in July of 2003.
What? You pc user just don't "get it". It's not about the hardware but the software that run on it and how it integrates so well and "just works".
Why should I do sys admin crap at home? I work in IT so I'm not the least bit interested with futzing around with software/hardware to get to work.
If you install linux on a mac, the "advantage" is gone.
All of you "AMD" and "P4" fanboys can go to hell for all I care. I don't give a damn about hardware other than the fact that it runs the software I want. An X86 machine will "not" run the software I want to run nor with will come with the ports I want as standard. I don't give a fuck about printer ports, serial ports, floppy drives or any other "legacy" hardware. This is the 21st century people. Get with the times already.
2. A server OS? Ok, linux is probably perfect for a set it and forget it server like a web server but I don't see how a mac mini would make a good server.
3. Why not get a cheap big X86 box then?
Stop making a "god" of RMS and "worshiping" his philosophy and think practically for a moment. If you are running Open source software "and" contributing to open source projects, you are doing more "good" for the movement than if you are just spending your time fighting with your own installation of an OS even if it happens to be open source.
How about thinking of it this way: all that time your OS that "just" works saves you can be used to be more productive personally which leaves you with more time to contribute to open source projects.
Are you talking about "real" freedom or GNU/Freedom?
If the latter, how does linux provide you with a better choice of software considering gentoo and aptget are available for OS X?
Most people do the latter. The really don't give a crap what window manager is running as long as they have access the the software that they need/want to be productive or creative.
Only a platform zealot would go out of their way to install a different *nix OS onto a box that already comes with one.
Most users use a computer to do "stuff" rather than obsess over what OS it is running or what "window manager" they have installed.
It's the "apps" stupid. The OS is just a means to an end and not the end in itself.
Let's see, you can disable AQUA and start the included X with the ancient/creaky window manager of your choosing.
You have access to AQUA and all of the wonderful free and commericial "software" available for it.
You can get linux/bsd ports through Fink,Darwin Ports or Gentoo.
What more do you want from an OS? Do you want an OS with "less" software and hardware support? Is that what turns you on?
YOu are missing the fact that it does not have support for any music stores or DRM for either WMV or WMA formats.
I have news for you. MSFT's DRM does not give you any more freedom. IT's not like a consumer is actually going to own more than one brand of music player anyway and the WMA based stores lock you into MSFT licensed players and the windows platform. There is no player on OS X capable of playing back WMA DRM'ed music let alone a way to buy or sync the music with any player.
Try running that widget for the first time. You will be asked for permission to run it.
Now if you had downloaded a widget with code calling cocoa like the TV tracker widget, Safari would prompt you for permission before it finished extracting and installing the widget.
The same thing happens if you download an Application within an internet enabled dmg. Safari will prompt you for permission before depositing the app package on the desktop.
How is this insightful? Having it on does not create a security hole. Security holes are created by flaws in the design but where is the real flaw here? All I see is FUD.
Dashboard will ask you the first time a third-party widget is run and give you the option of not running it.
What more should Apple do save crippling the functionality of Dashboard for all users?
Delete your SMB keychain entries and/or enable password encryption on your SMB server.
Most people on the mac platform have no interest in creating malware because it is an enjoyable platform to use and it is quite difficult to create malware. The reason why windows is chock full of malware is because it is so easy to exploit and because windows is not "fun" to use.
Utlimately, exploits exists solely because there is a vulnerability caused by sloppy coding and someone feels motivated to write an exploit for it. Marketshare has nothing to do with it.
Floppy? Dude, Clinton's not the president anymore.
Why release the code at all if you want to maintain control over it?
The GPL does "limit" those who can make use of the code.
I don't see this being used by larger applications given that it is possible to implement a dockling without this framework without having to comply with a viral license like the GPL.
With .plists, you do know exactly which is which and you can validate to ensure that you don't attempt to load a value as a key or visa versa.
You're argument is a straw man when scripting languages other than bog standard shell scripts have parsing routines for you to use. If you want to use stone knives and skins, go ahead but don't attempt to use it as an argument against using more advanced technology.
Look around you. The .NET Framework is using XML, Web services are using XML, OS X uses XML and Solaris currently use something similar to launchd instead of standard shell scripts. Is that crap too?
I don't get how you are so dead set on writing parsers from scratch for every bloody script and configuration format. How the hell can anyone besides a zealot call that better?
Why would you want to waste CPU like that? If you want widgets on the desktop, look at Konfabulator.
Put away your "windoze suxors" fanboy attitude for a moment and take a look at the bloody thing before you judge.
Back on topic, I hope other *nix take a similar approach. Perhaps Apple could Open source it. How about instead of being an annoying and negative ass, try reserving judgement until you see it in action?
http://www.apple.com/legal/trademark/appletmlist.h tml
Trademarks have to be defended in order to remain valid, unlike patents and copyrights.
The parent company of Tiger Direct is System Max which IIRC, was one of the mac clone makers before Mr. Jobs killed them to stop Apple from self-destructing.
Unfortunately, those same upper level management did not bother to check to see if Apple had already applied of a trademark in the category of Operating systems which they did file for in July of 2003.
Why should I do sys admin crap at home? I work in IT so I'm not the least bit interested with futzing around with software/hardware to get to work.
If you install linux on a mac, the "advantage" is gone.
All of you "AMD" and "P4" fanboys can go to hell for all I care. I don't give a damn about hardware other than the fact that it runs the software I want. An X86 machine will "not" run the software I want to run nor with will come with the ports I want as standard. I don't give a fuck about printer ports, serial ports, floppy drives or any other "legacy" hardware. This is the 21st century people. Get with the times already.
External peripherals "are" compatible with the mini.