Yes, people just "hate" Apple and Microsoft for no valid reasons whatsoever. It's not "hate", it's simply being objective and not a F.F.F. (fruity fucking fanboy).
Did you really have to do there? Here is my theory. You are a frustrated homosexual who is disappointed that Apple users actually represent a cross section society rather than being mostly gay. I think this applies to most anti-apple trolls on the internet. They either try to characterize mac users as gay (wishful thinking) or talk incessantly about their fantasies involving the Steve Jobs and his junk.
Here is a clue stick for you, most apple users are regular people with regular interests and we are not obsessed with Steve Jobs or any other Apple employee. We like the products because they "work".
You can be as gay as you want to be but keep it off slashdot because nobody wants to hear about it. I'm sure you can find a support group elsewhere.
Dude, stuff it with your rants about the educational system. He's just going in and talking to kids for a few minutes, not asking how to change the entire fucking thing. If anything what he's doing gives the kids a break from their normal routine. That's good enough for them.
Dude, why the hell would you bother responding if you are just going to ignore everything I wrote? Are you saying that the US/Canadian education system is not broken? Are you telling me that I am full of shit? Backup your crazy statements with some facts pal of GTFO.
the USA is embarrassing in education. hell even 13 years ago I did not do a damn thing for the last 6 years and still got good enough grades to float though the first couple semesters in "college" where they now grade you based on where you click in a per pixel perfect 8x8 circle, no matter if it was the correct big ass windows box or not.
yup thats learnin, who the fuck cares what it means, just click dead center of the O in OK and we will beat those red slants in a day
You just are not getting it. Maybe you should travel to europe and take a look at how things really are run there. Europe does not have slack schooling. They start later but once it starts, there is no kindergarten or grade one type stuff. The students have had their fill of being "kids" goofing off and exploring their world and are reading to put their nose to the grindstone. With the North American system, children are stuck in a school room being spoon fed information when they would rather still be at home playing with kids in the neighbourhood so you end up with kids that are not paying attention or day dreaming in class.
Parents in North America just like to use public schools as a babysitting service rather than caring about actual tangible results.
A big part of the reason why America is falling behind other parts of the world is because they have not learned the concept of "work smarter not harder". You can only get a certain amount of productivity out of a worker where keeping them chained to their desk for more than 7.5 hours a day for 5 days a week.
The same problem exists with schools in America, children are forced to go to school far too early when they would rather be learning social skills and playing with their friends. A lot of european countries start schooling at a much later age but those students end up not only catching up within a year but exceed their North American counter parts the year after. Not only are children in school too early but now some parents are enrolling their children in summer school as well even when they did not need it.
I have seen how people act about their phones. They have the attitude of "from my cold dead hands" of an NRA freak mixed equally with the behaviors of a meth addict. They can sue until the cows come home, but the cat has gotten out of carrier. You won't be able to put it back in. Android phones (or the like) will go underground like drugs. All the enforcement (patent or otherwise) won't change that. It would only become a question of how to get them over the border.
Please. Most people who have android phones either got them because there was no iPhone on their carrier (or still isn't) or because it was offered to them for free by their carrier.
I'd be interested to know what the return rate was for Android phones.
APPLE listen up! If you sue them out of existence I will never buy another product of yours for myself or as a gift. ever. after all if your fancy UI is so superior why would you need to result to lawsuits to prove it?
If Apple does not defend their IP then many companies will abuse it and consumers will buy the barely sufficient copy instead of the real thing.
Macs aren't as vulnerable because they don't have a big enough footprint so they aren't stumbling upon the infected sites or aren't being targeted directly. Windows, including Windows 7, is still more prevalent and more vulnerable.
How many times are we going to get the same stories? If the user is willing to do anything the app or websites tells them to, well, you can't protect them.
Yes, wash, rinse repeat is quite apt for this situation because I have heard that same excuse over and over again.
The article is talking about remote exploit vulnerability and how OS X is hardened against it to a greater degree than Windows for example out of the box. This attribute of OS X has nothing to do with how much or little marketshare it has. Also, the local security model has nothing to do with marketshare.
Precisely. We need to fix this inequality by adding even more inequality and giving certain minorities more benefits than others have! The situation could be worse, so you have no right to complain about anything.
Bullshit. What if they are white but from an immigrant family? Why should the colour of skin by the determining factor? Economic status of their family and grades/aptitude should be the sole determining factors.
When you white people started feeling guilty about everyone you considered sub-human.
Guilty about what? I don't have servants and my people never were involved in the slave trade as owners. The next person to call me a "cracker" get's a fractured skull from a blunt instrument. You cannot lump all Europeans into one group.
1. Did too - had this on my Tro 650 at least, IIRC the 180 had it as well. 2. That is a telco feature.
Which was created by Apple and then pushed by Apple for them to implement. Visual voice mail did not exist for cellphones before that time.
Wow and they say that Apple fanboys have their heads in the clouds but you Palm fanboys take the cake. I don't need to go any further than this point because it demonstrates how bad and/or jaded your memory is.
Shitty programmers who cannot be bothered to learn how relational databases work or seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that they are paid to create systems that not only serve the front end consumer user but also people on the backend business side would advocate NoSQL. If the product/service you are writing has anything to do with money, business users need to have information stored in a relational model that can be easily queried or extracted into a data cube for business analytics. This is why you have data translation layers with data transformation objects (DTOs) in the first place to translate your object model into a relational model and back again.
If you work for a "for profit" company that deals with customer and sales data in any capacity then you need to have people competent people working who have at least a basic understanding of the relational model and transactions. If you work for one of those companies and are advocating NoSQL for data that the business needs for data mining or processing sales then you should either be reeducated or offered the door because you have forgotten who your actually work for.
I don't care WHO said it. That's nothing but FUD. The fact remains that jailbreaking your phone doesn't leave it wide open. It DOES allow you to do many various things that CAN leave your phone wide open....but in and of itself, it's not really dangerous.
Jailbreaking destroys the BSD jails in iOS, hence the name "jail break". It also circumvents checks for code signing so unsigned code can run on the iOS device. When there are no jails then each program that you install has free access to the filesystem whereas a stock iOS install limits access to a few areas on the filesystem for non-Apple software.
For the millionth time, the "by request" clause is in reference to physical media. Downloadable binaries must provide downloadable source.
People, RMS himself already said it's in violation. Case closed.
I don't care what RMS thinks the GPL says. I care what it actually says. You cannot leave contracts and licenses open to interpretation or the parties involved are left uncertain to what their obligations actually after they have entered into it.
If RMS believes that the GPL requires something then he needs to release a revision of the license with what he believes explicitly spelled out. Otherwise the GPL becomes a trojan horse of sorts.
How can it be a false accusation if rms admits that it's a GPL violation himself?
Because he is not a lawyer. He needs to ask a lawyer what the license states. Licenses and contracts have to be explicit or they become unenforceable. All parties have to know what their obligations are upfront so they license cannot be open to interpretation after the fact. If RMS wants the GPL to mean something other than what is explicitly stated in the terms, he needs to release a revision of the license.
Mod parent up. There is no stipulation in the GPL that source code must accompany any distribution of binaries. Total myth.
Then you better make sure rms knows this since he's the one apparently pertuating this "total myth". You know, since he was the one who wrote the email saying that Emacs was in violation of the GPL.
RMS frequently perpetuates several myths about the GPL so this is nothing new. If he want it to say what he thinks it should say then he would include it in the next version of the GPL explicitly or STFU.
Unlike legislation, contracts/licenses have to explicitly state every obligation of each party involved. If they were open to interpretation, it would leave the parties involved in a perilous situation where they are not certain of their obligations and would require a judge to define them.
RMS already said it's in violation of the GPL. However, to humor you, the "by request" clause is for physical media. Downloadable binaries require downloadable source.
Interestingly, this incident has proven how few of Slashdot's readers actually know the GPL.
Citation needed. Please quote the section that explicitly states this otherwise you are playing lawyer/judge.
If you look at the profit share of iOS versus Android and compare their supposed marketshare numbers then there appears to be in inverse correlation between market share and profit. Apple has the lion share of profit.
b. It generates a stronger platform
That is a false assumption. What generates a stronger platform is the availability of software and a high rate of retention. Android buyers seem to go through phones rather quickly so the actual active install base might be much smaller than the marketshare numbers would indicate.
c. It generates a stronger sw library
Wrong. A strong API that attracts quality developers along with proper marketing of "paid" apps on the store generate a stronger software base.
d. It generates a stronger eco-system for 3rd party businesses
Which one of these has a greater market share given Android?
Reality does not seem to agree with you. The Android eco-system seems to be rather weak because of the fragmentation and the high churn rates of people switching phones. Why would people bother buying a case for a phone if they decide to get another phone because the original one was a piece of crap?
Not if it's a fast moving target, such as the smartphone market. And in the Android market it's not 23 misses and one good phone. It's a couple awesome phones, a bunch of varying good phones and a couple shitty phones. A good healthy bell curve to satisfy more market space.
How do those mediocre and shitty phones benefit the customers who have the misfortune of getting when they renew their contracts for another two years?
Problem is that applying this update for something that is not likely exploited in the wild will hose your Unteathered Jailbreak. Reports on twitter are that redsn0w pointed at 4.3.4 (or 4.2.9) will work for getting a tethered Jailbreak. Many jailbreakers likely wont bother.
Wonder if someone will patch this like they did the PDF exploit and put it on Cydia.
Sorry but I don't see the problem here. If you are concerned about security in the first place then you should not jailbreak. What exactly do you think a jailbreak is anyway? You are basically stripping the check for code signing and shutting down the BSD jail sandbox mechanism for the OS so that you can run unsigned code but that also means that someone can setup a repo and trick people to download and install malware onto their iPhone. On a jailbroken iPhone, code can access any part of the filesystem without restriction whereas a stock iOS install will prevent that from happening.
Geeks should not be encouraging their grandmas or other noobs to jailbreak/root their phones because they are then leaving those phones wide open to attack.
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No, he's right. Plenty of people won't buy from Apple, and for good reason.
What is plenty of people? 20,000? 100,000? There might be even more who don't buy any tablets simply because they are too broke ass poor.
Yes, people just "hate" Apple and Microsoft for no valid reasons whatsoever. It's not "hate", it's simply being objective and not a F.F.F. (fruity fucking fanboy).
Did you really have to do there? Here is my theory. You are a frustrated homosexual who is disappointed that Apple users actually represent a cross section society rather than being mostly gay. I think this applies to most anti-apple trolls on the internet. They either try to characterize mac users as gay (wishful thinking) or talk incessantly about their fantasies involving the Steve Jobs and his junk.
Here is a clue stick for you, most apple users are regular people with regular interests and we are not obsessed with Steve Jobs or any other Apple employee. We like the products because they "work".
You can be as gay as you want to be but keep it off slashdot because nobody wants to hear about it. I'm sure you can find a support group elsewhere.
Dude, stuff it with your rants about the educational system. He's just going in and talking to kids for a few minutes, not asking how to change the entire fucking thing. If anything what he's doing gives the kids a break from their normal routine. That's good enough for them.
Dude, why the hell would you bother responding if you are just going to ignore everything I wrote? Are you saying that the US/Canadian education system is not broken? Are you telling me that I am full of shit? Backup your crazy statements with some facts pal of GTFO.
slack schooling only works when schooling works
the USA is embarrassing in education. hell even 13 years ago I did not do a damn thing for the last 6 years and still got good enough grades to float though the first couple semesters in "college" where they now grade you based on where you click in a per pixel perfect 8x8 circle, no matter if it was the correct big ass windows box or not.
yup thats learnin, who the fuck cares what it means, just click dead center of the O in OK and we will beat those red slants in a day
You just are not getting it. Maybe you should travel to europe and take a look at how things really are run there. Europe does not have slack schooling. They start later but once it starts, there is no kindergarten or grade one type stuff. The students have had their fill of being "kids" goofing off and exploring their world and are reading to put their nose to the grindstone. With the North American system, children are stuck in a school room being spoon fed information when they would rather still be at home playing with kids in the neighbourhood so you end up with kids that are not paying attention or day dreaming in class.
Parents in North America just like to use public schools as a babysitting service rather than caring about actual tangible results.
Why don't you just let kids be kids?
A big part of the reason why America is falling behind other parts of the world is because they have not learned the concept of "work smarter not harder". You can only get a certain amount of productivity out of a worker where keeping them chained to their desk for more than 7.5 hours a day for 5 days a week.
The same problem exists with schools in America, children are forced to go to school far too early when they would rather be learning social skills and playing with their friends. A lot of european countries start schooling at a much later age but those students end up not only catching up within a year but exceed their North American counter parts the year after. Not only are children in school too early but now some parents are enrolling their children in summer school as well even when they did not need it.
You're confusing bad Germans with good Germans. They're not the same, you know.
Neither have a sense of humour.
I have seen how people act about their phones. They have the attitude of "from my cold dead hands" of an NRA freak mixed equally with the behaviors of a meth addict. They can sue until the cows come home, but the cat has gotten out of carrier. You won't be able to put it back in. Android phones (or the like) will go underground like drugs. All the enforcement (patent or otherwise) won't change that. It would only become a question of how to get them over the border.
Please. Most people who have android phones either got them because there was no iPhone on their carrier (or still isn't) or because it was offered to them for free by their carrier.
I'd be interested to know what the return rate was for Android phones.
APPLE listen up! If you sue them out of existence I will never buy another product of yours for myself or as a gift. ever. after all if your fancy UI is so superior why would you need to result to lawsuits to prove it?
If Apple does not defend their IP then many companies will abuse it and consumers will buy the barely sufficient copy instead of the real thing.
Wash. Rinse Repeat.
Macs aren't as vulnerable because they don't have a big enough footprint so they aren't stumbling upon the infected sites or aren't being targeted directly. Windows, including Windows 7, is still more prevalent and more vulnerable.
How many times are we going to get the same stories? If the user is willing to do anything the app or websites tells them to, well, you can't protect them.
Yes, wash, rinse repeat is quite apt for this situation because I have heard that same excuse over and over again.
The article is talking about remote exploit vulnerability and how OS X is hardened against it to a greater degree than Windows for example out of the box. This attribute of OS X has nothing to do with how much or little marketshare it has. Also, the local security model has nothing to do with marketshare.
Cracker please.
Moron. Please. I hate morons regardless of ethnicity. I'm not racist, I just hate stupid people.
Precisely. We need to fix this inequality by adding even more inequality and giving certain minorities more benefits than others have! The situation could be worse, so you have no right to complain about anything.
Bullshit. What if they are white but from an immigrant family? Why should the colour of skin by the determining factor? Economic status of their family and grades/aptitude should be the sole determining factors.
For that matter, when did Latino become a race?
When you white people started feeling guilty about everyone you considered sub-human.
Guilty about what? I don't have servants and my people never were involved in the slave trade as owners. The next person to call me a "cracker" get's a fractured skull from a blunt instrument. You cannot lump all Europeans into one group.
1. Did too - had this on my Tro 650 at least, IIRC the 180 had it as well.
2. That is a telco feature.
Which was created by Apple and then pushed by Apple for them to implement. Visual voice mail did not exist for cellphones before that time.
Wow and they say that Apple fanboys have their heads in the clouds but you Palm fanboys take the cake. I don't need to go any further than this point because it demonstrates how bad and/or jaded your memory is.
Yeah, talk about feeding the beast.
Galaxy Tab is sooo good even Apple's tried to stop its release!
The preceding message was brought to you by Google Inc. If you are going to astroturf, try being a little less obvious.
I have more data than you, so does Facebook. Try harder.
Sorry but I'm not falling for that. I have been working with relational databases for over a decade but I am not about to divulge who I work for.
Shitty programmers who cannot be bothered to learn how relational databases work or seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that they are paid to create systems that not only serve the front end consumer user but also people on the backend business side would advocate NoSQL. If the product/service you are writing has anything to do with money, business users need to have information stored in a relational model that can be easily queried or extracted into a data cube for business analytics. This is why you have data translation layers with data transformation objects (DTOs) in the first place to translate your object model into a relational model and back again.
If you work for a "for profit" company that deals with customer and sales data in any capacity then you need to have people competent people working who have at least a basic understanding of the relational model and transactions. If you work for one of those companies and are advocating NoSQL for data that the business needs for data mining or processing sales then you should either be reeducated or offered the door because you have forgotten who your actually work for.
I don't care WHO said it. That's nothing but FUD. The fact remains that jailbreaking your phone doesn't leave it wide open. It DOES allow you to do many various things that CAN leave your phone wide open....but in and of itself, it's not really dangerous.
Jailbreaking destroys the BSD jails in iOS, hence the name "jail break". It also circumvents checks for code signing so unsigned code can run on the iOS device. When there are no jails then each program that you install has free access to the filesystem whereas a stock iOS install limits access to a few areas on the filesystem for non-Apple software.
For the millionth time, the "by request" clause is in reference to physical media. Downloadable binaries must provide downloadable source.
People, RMS himself already said it's in violation. Case closed.
I don't care what RMS thinks the GPL says. I care what it actually says. You cannot leave contracts and licenses open to interpretation or the parties involved are left uncertain to what their obligations actually after they have entered into it.
If RMS believes that the GPL requires something then he needs to release a revision of the license with what he believes explicitly spelled out. Otherwise the GPL becomes a trojan horse of sorts.
How can it be a false accusation if rms admits that it's a GPL violation himself?
Because he is not a lawyer. He needs to ask a lawyer what the license states. Licenses and contracts have to be explicit or they become unenforceable. All parties have to know what their obligations are upfront so they license cannot be open to interpretation after the fact. If RMS wants the GPL to mean something other than what is explicitly stated in the terms, he needs to release a revision of the license.
Mod parent up. There is no stipulation in the GPL that source code must accompany any distribution of binaries. Total myth.
Then you better make sure rms knows this since he's the one apparently pertuating this "total myth". You know, since he was the one who wrote the email saying that Emacs was in violation of the GPL.
RMS frequently perpetuates several myths about the GPL so this is nothing new. If he want it to say what he thinks it should say then he would include it in the next version of the GPL explicitly or STFU.
Unlike legislation, contracts/licenses have to explicitly state every obligation of each party involved. If they were open to interpretation, it would leave the parties involved in a perilous situation where they are not certain of their obligations and would require a judge to define them.
RMS already said it's in violation of the GPL. However, to humor you, the "by request" clause is for physical media. Downloadable binaries require downloadable source.
Interestingly, this incident has proven how few of Slashdot's readers actually know the GPL.
Citation needed. Please quote the section that explicitly states this otherwise you are playing lawyer/judge.
Which is just another reason why I am done with buying phones that I need to jailbreak just to add basic features such as custom SMS ringtones.
Custom SMS tones are coming in iOS 5.
Why is market share important?
I don't know, why don't you tell us?
a. It generates more profit
If you look at the profit share of iOS versus Android and compare their supposed marketshare numbers then there appears to be in inverse correlation between market share and profit. Apple has the lion share of profit.
b. It generates a stronger platform
That is a false assumption. What generates a stronger platform is the availability of software and a high rate of retention. Android buyers seem to go through phones rather quickly so the actual active install base might be much smaller than the marketshare numbers would indicate.
c. It generates a stronger sw library
Wrong. A strong API that attracts quality developers along with proper marketing of "paid" apps on the store generate a stronger software base.
d. It generates a stronger eco-system for 3rd party businesses
Which one of these has a greater market share given Android?
Reality does not seem to agree with you. The Android eco-system seems to be rather weak because of the fragmentation and the high churn rates of people switching phones. Why would people bother buying a case for a phone if they decide to get another phone because the original one was a piece of crap?
Not if it's a fast moving target, such as the smartphone market. And in the Android market it's not 23 misses and one good phone. It's a couple awesome phones, a bunch of varying good phones and a couple shitty phones. A good healthy bell curve to satisfy more market space.
How do those mediocre and shitty phones benefit the customers who have the misfortune of getting when they renew their contracts for another two years?
Problem is that applying this update for something that is not likely exploited in the wild will hose your Unteathered Jailbreak. Reports on twitter are that redsn0w pointed at 4.3.4 (or 4.2.9) will work for getting a tethered Jailbreak. Many jailbreakers likely wont bother.
Wonder if someone will patch this like they did the PDF exploit and put it on Cydia.
Sorry but I don't see the problem here. If you are concerned about security in the first place then you should not jailbreak. What exactly do you think a jailbreak is anyway? You are basically stripping the check for code signing and shutting down the BSD jail sandbox mechanism for the OS so that you can run unsigned code but that also means that someone can setup a repo and trick people to download and install malware onto their iPhone. On a jailbroken iPhone, code can access any part of the filesystem without restriction whereas a stock iOS install will prevent that from happening.
Geeks should not be encouraging their grandmas or other noobs to jailbreak/root their phones because they are then leaving those phones wide open to attack.