The database really isn't that important. It only becomes important once a DBA gets their hands on it and starts implementing LOGIC at the database instead of doing the logic in the application and fast, dumb, simple queries at the database.
I don't know what he's saying but I'm saying that I am sick of postgresql fanboys chiming in on every MySQL story. Postgresql is not some long lost secret, everyone using MySQL knows about it and they all have chosen not to use it. They are both fine solutions with strengths and weaknesses that don't really need to be debated yet again.
There certainly isn't anything to be gained by scrolling down and responding to every "I don't use Postgresql because..." because nobody is being converted.
I'm sorry but this crap is extremely annoying. Every MySQL story brings out hundreds of trolls saying we should all use Postgresql and there are another million trolls with mod points to mod them up.
Every "use postgresql" comment has deserved -1 redundant for the past several years. Some people actually prefer MySQL and anyone who knows about MySQL also knows about postgresql so stfu already.
This an American site, a story on American rockets, and a thread about American bulls. American-English prevails. Now go fetch me some chips and if you don't show up with thin fried slices of potato we will fill you with lead.
Pretty sure he is referring to data transfer caps and not actual speed capping. I think we'd all be happy if comcast gave us 20 Mbps pipes. A 20 Mbps pipe is 51,840 Gbps transfer, per direction, every 30 days. Comcast will cut you off if you use 250 Gbps total transfer in 30 days.
If the service is still going to be needed after the government stops providing it then it amounts to the same thing. Generally things being provided by government require large capital outlay meaning a large corp running them and if they don't, the nature of capitalism guarantees that it is just a matter of time before one or a small number of large megacorps dominate the area.
Mostly it is all just a bunch of excuses around the conversation. Most people making this argument really just want to be able to profit to the tune of the output of multiple people while only paying a tax share equal to one of those people. Unfortunately that profit had to be produced somewhere and the people who produced it are out the difference but need the same level of services.
You need some context for this. Those crying out about government inefficiency (daily rapers) usually want to outsource its functions to the slow fat corporations aka private industry (10x a day rapers).
I'm sure we'd all prefer to not be raped at all but we shouldn't use that an excuse to dismiss the argument that 1/day rape is better or at least not worse than 10x a day rape!
"In other words, public entities usually aren't much more inefficient than the fattest, slowest, most entrenched corporations out there. That sets the bar pretty high."
If someone wants to privatize it is those fat entrenched slow corporations that they generally would be privatizing to. They are at least as inefficient as government.
I actually agree. ANY large entity is inefficient be it private or public.
For instance, in IT we often see large corporate branch offices. They'll have a cisco router and switch $5k and a T1 $600/mo with $1k installation in a branch office with three staff members. They'll have exacting standards for how they want this gear configured, port numbering, vlans, etc and they'll have higher level central IT staff configure the gear ($120) and then have some local contractor deploy it ($65). That is about $7k to get started and at least $600/mo after that.
In a small company that same office won't have an expensive cisco or juniper logo anywhere in sight. Their router and switch is one consumer level box that is more than adequate for an office that size ($100) and they will call that same local contractor to both set it up and install ($65) which will still take only one hour because of the simple configuration. It will use local broadband, they probably won't pay extra to have it called "business class" because they don't need the static addresses so $45/mo with no installation. So about $200 to get going and under $50/mo after that and MUCH faster internet.
Despite industry myths, both will have solid up time and downtime is pretty much never as expensive as its hyped to be anyway. When a branch office goes down almost everything can simply be caught up later.
The second time around they get the benefit of the technology they've already developed and the proven staff. So it sounds a bit optimistic but certainly within the realm of reason. If it cost them the same amount and took just as long to repeat the feat a second time it would be kind of sad. It's basically the same project but going a little further, which just means waiting longer for it to arrive when talking about space.
I highly doubt the missile systems are tied to any sort of network. Either way toss up a guest wifi net and leave them alone. Believe me, there are worse ways for people with missile keys and too much time of their hands to vent their slowly building frustrations.
There is also nothing about a porn site that makes it more likely to harbor malware. Most of the infections I've seen came from financial sites.
Not that this is really news worthy but who cares if they are watching porn? This is a legitimate job that has to be staffed 24/7 and probably requires about 20min worth of total combined labor in a typical year. Being the military that is increased to maybe a few days labor worth of redundant checklists over the course of the year.
Stop giving special treatment to your friends NASA and set a list of milestones with bounties attached and reward the company that reaches that milestone first period. There is no reason to limit the competitors to three companies.
I can't say I've never encountered a virus/trojan/worm in downloads. I've seen all of the above. For every one of them there are dozens of false positives from free anti-virus software.
Actually it suggests to me you need a better anti-virus. The freebies generate false positives left and right and every day people think they are being saved from viruses that weren't really in downloads.
"Try walking down the street and picking random cars then start changing their tires."
I assume that was intended as an analogy but I can't come up with any link between that and what we are talking about... not even from your side of the discussion. We aren't talking about random objects, or objects belonging to third parties. Maybe you meant something like getting an oil change for your company issued vehicle before turning it back in? That fits, the vehicle is designated for your use but owned by the company (of which you are part, not a distinct separate party), you are performing a normal maintenance operation on that vehicle that improves rather than degrades its function.
"Ever try to go back and prove what work you did on a case file from several years ago when all references of your work outside of time tracking is missing?"
That sounds like a very poorly structured work place data infrastructure. There shouldn't be any important data on desktops and workstations in the first place. E-mails, IM's, documents, calendars, issue tracking and updates, all of it should be mandatory, integrated into the employee daily workflow, and server based. Staff of all levels in all departments should be tracking and documenting everything in ticket systems. Everything done every day should be tracked as it happens and stored server side.
Employee issued systems can't be trusted with any data of significance and as such it shouldn't be significant if one is lost. Systems get corrupted and wiped routinely in normal operations so it shouldn't matter if an employee wipes a system. Your security policy should work from the assumption that employee systems are untrusted and implement infrastructure level controls that don't depend on software on that system or preventing local administrative access to the employee. Anything else is both naive AND unreasonably restricts staff, your attitude sounds openly hostile toward staff. I know first hand of friends and associates who have wiped their company issue both during use and after they are done with it at eight fortune 100 companies. In none of those locations did this merit any response. In fact, IT usually provided the disks.
A man named Gutmann showed us that you can use what is essentially an analog ghost of the previous information. Our digital 1 or 0 is actually represented by ranges of analog values not exact fixed voltage levels. If the previous value was a 1 and you write a 1 the resulting ANALOG value will be greater than if the previous value was a 0. If you use the same value or a predictable set of values of overwrite the drive it is easier deduce the previous values. This task becomes more difficult with multiple passes as each write will make the previous ghost more faint and add a new one. If you are writing a fixed pattern it is easier to filter out that pattern to detect the data you are really looking for.
People will be quick to point out how up to date they are and tell you that with modern drive densities this type of recovery isn't possible. If you are willing to trust that advancing technology had only applied to the drives and not the equipment you use to perform this operation be my guest. But SSDs are becoming common and they leave a much stronger analog residue that makes this old security precaution necessary again.
Gutmann found that 30 passes was needed to completely obliterate the traces on old drive technology. A two pass write with random data is a strong standard practice for modern drives.
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where is this common? certainly not here in the US.
The database really isn't that important. It only becomes important once a DBA gets their hands on it and starts implementing LOGIC at the database instead of doing the logic in the application and fast, dumb, simple queries at the database.
I don't know what he's saying but I'm saying that I am sick of postgresql fanboys chiming in on every MySQL story. Postgresql is not some long lost secret, everyone using MySQL knows about it and they all have chosen not to use it. They are both fine solutions with strengths and weaknesses that don't really need to be debated yet again.
There certainly isn't anything to be gained by scrolling down and responding to every "I don't use Postgresql because..." because nobody is being converted.
I'm sorry but this crap is extremely annoying. Every MySQL story brings out hundreds of trolls saying we should all use Postgresql and there are another million trolls with mod points to mod them up.
Every "use postgresql" comment has deserved -1 redundant for the past several years. Some people actually prefer MySQL and anyone who knows about MySQL also knows about postgresql so stfu already.
The mass public outcry over what GNOME has done constitutes a community, the small minority who are happy are expressing personal opinions.
This an American site, a story on American rockets, and a thread about American bulls. American-English prevails. Now go fetch me some chips and if you don't show up with thin fried slices of potato we will fill you with lead.
I hate to break it to you but you aren't sucking on the bull's eye.
Remind me which of the contractors who pocketed those billions gets fired if it doesn't work? Lockheed maybe? YEEAAHHH RIGHT.
Pretty sure he is referring to data transfer caps and not actual speed capping. I think we'd all be happy if comcast gave us 20 Mbps pipes. A 20 Mbps pipe is 51,840 Gbps transfer, per direction, every 30 days. Comcast will cut you off if you use 250 Gbps total transfer in 30 days.
Actually he is referring to computer hacking, you are referring to computer cracking or penetration.
Has Slashdot really devolved to the point where nobody even bothers correcting misuse of the word "hacker" anymore?
While I might love hacking a mars rover. That has no relation to breaking anyone's security.
It also doesn't make sense. 140 million dollars USD brought to you by the department of redundancy department.
Second is borrowed by the socialists, we americans invented it! Furlongs, fortnights, and stones aren't used in the USA.
If the service is still going to be needed after the government stops providing it then it amounts to the same thing. Generally things being provided by government require large capital outlay meaning a large corp running them and if they don't, the nature of capitalism guarantees that it is just a matter of time before one or a small number of large megacorps dominate the area.
Mostly it is all just a bunch of excuses around the conversation. Most people making this argument really just want to be able to profit to the tune of the output of multiple people while only paying a tax share equal to one of those people. Unfortunately that profit had to be produced somewhere and the people who produced it are out the difference but need the same level of services.
You need some context for this. Those crying out about government inefficiency (daily rapers) usually want to outsource its functions to the slow fat corporations aka private industry (10x a day rapers).
I'm sure we'd all prefer to not be raped at all but we shouldn't use that an excuse to dismiss the argument that 1/day rape is better or at least not worse than 10x a day rape!
"In other words, public entities usually aren't much more inefficient than the fattest, slowest, most entrenched corporations out there. That sets the bar pretty high."
If someone wants to privatize it is those fat entrenched slow corporations that they generally would be privatizing to. They are at least as inefficient as government.
I actually agree. ANY large entity is inefficient be it private or public.
For instance, in IT we often see large corporate branch offices. They'll have a cisco router and switch $5k and a T1 $600/mo with $1k installation in a branch office with three staff members. They'll have exacting standards for how they want this gear configured, port numbering, vlans, etc and they'll have higher level central IT staff configure the gear ($120) and then have some local contractor deploy it ($65). That is about $7k to get started and at least $600/mo after that.
In a small company that same office won't have an expensive cisco or juniper logo anywhere in sight. Their router and switch is one consumer level box that is more than adequate for an office that size ($100) and they will call that same local contractor to both set it up and install ($65) which will still take only one hour because of the simple configuration. It will use local broadband, they probably won't pay extra to have it called "business class" because they don't need the static addresses so $45/mo with no installation. So about $200 to get going and under $50/mo after that and MUCH faster internet.
Despite industry myths, both will have solid up time and downtime is pretty much never as expensive as its hyped to be anyway. When a branch office goes down almost everything can simply be caught up later.
The second time around they get the benefit of the technology they've already developed and the proven staff. So it sounds a bit optimistic but certainly within the realm of reason. If it cost them the same amount and took just as long to repeat the feat a second time it would be kind of sad. It's basically the same project but going a little further, which just means waiting longer for it to arrive when talking about space.
I highly doubt the missile systems are tied to any sort of network. Either way toss up a guest wifi net and leave them alone. Believe me, there are worse ways for people with missile keys and too much time of their hands to vent their slowly building frustrations.
There is also nothing about a porn site that makes it more likely to harbor malware. Most of the infections I've seen came from financial sites.
Not that this is really news worthy but who cares if they are watching porn? This is a legitimate job that has to be staffed 24/7 and probably requires about 20min worth of total combined labor in a typical year. Being the military that is increased to maybe a few days labor worth of redundant checklists over the course of the year.
Stop giving special treatment to your friends NASA and set a list of milestones with bounties attached and reward the company that reaches that milestone first period. There is no reason to limit the competitors to three companies.
I can't say I've never encountered a virus/trojan/worm in downloads. I've seen all of the above. For every one of them there are dozens of false positives from free anti-virus software.
Actually it suggests to me you need a better anti-virus. The freebies generate false positives left and right and every day people think they are being saved from viruses that weren't really in downloads.
"Try walking down the street and picking random cars then start changing their tires."
I assume that was intended as an analogy but I can't come up with any link between that and what we are talking about... not even from your side of the discussion. We aren't talking about random objects, or objects belonging to third parties. Maybe you meant something like getting an oil change for your company issued vehicle before turning it back in? That fits, the vehicle is designated for your use but owned by the company (of which you are part, not a distinct separate party), you are performing a normal maintenance operation on that vehicle that improves rather than degrades its function.
"Ever try to go back and prove what work you did on a case file from several years ago when all references of your work outside of time tracking is missing?"
That sounds like a very poorly structured work place data infrastructure. There shouldn't be any important data on desktops and workstations in the first place. E-mails, IM's, documents, calendars, issue tracking and updates, all of it should be mandatory, integrated into the employee daily workflow, and server based. Staff of all levels in all departments should be tracking and documenting everything in ticket systems. Everything done every day should be tracked as it happens and stored server side.
Employee issued systems can't be trusted with any data of significance and as such it shouldn't be significant if one is lost. Systems get corrupted and wiped routinely in normal operations so it shouldn't matter if an employee wipes a system. Your security policy should work from the assumption that employee systems are untrusted and implement infrastructure level controls that don't depend on software on that system or preventing local administrative access to the employee. Anything else is both naive AND unreasonably restricts staff, your attitude sounds openly hostile toward staff. I know first hand of friends and associates who have wiped their company issue both during use and after they are done with it at eight fortune 100 companies. In none of those locations did this merit any response. In fact, IT usually provided the disks.
A man named Gutmann showed us that you can use what is essentially an analog ghost of the previous information. Our digital 1 or 0 is actually represented by ranges of analog values not exact fixed voltage levels. If the previous value was a 1 and you write a 1 the resulting ANALOG value will be greater than if the previous value was a 0. If you use the same value or a predictable set of values of overwrite the drive it is easier deduce the previous values. This task becomes more difficult with multiple passes as each write will make the previous ghost more faint and add a new one. If you are writing a fixed pattern it is easier to filter out that pattern to detect the data you are really looking for.
People will be quick to point out how up to date they are and tell you that with modern drive densities this type of recovery isn't possible. If you are willing to trust that advancing technology had only applied to the drives and not the equipment you use to perform this operation be my guest. But SSDs are becoming common and they leave a much stronger analog residue that makes this old security precaution necessary again.
Gutmann found that 30 passes was needed to completely obliterate the traces on old drive technology. A two pass write with random data is a strong standard practice for modern drives.
You could read the paper:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html
But the technical overview on wikipedia will suffice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutmann_method