"I would appreciate it if my kid's school would tell me what he was eating or if he was eating. "
A lot more effective is to teach your child to want to eat and to want to eat healthy food. You should do with a wide array of healthy food in the home including food which isn't healthy in excess.
Then after teaching your child this. You should TRUST your child. No, he isn't worthy of that trust but the times your child disobeys you and you don't know about are as crucial to his development as anything you can teach him.
Teaching your child values. Teaching your child you trust him and he can trust you. And teaching your child that it is safe to tell you when he has broken your trust. These are things that yield far greater returns than a police state.
But again there is no agreement on what is healthy or not. You aren't about to tell my male child that they can't have foods high in protein and saturated fats. Especially a teenager.
Those foods are needed for healthy growth and testosterone production and are perfectly healthy as long as they aren't eaten in combination with significant quantities of carbohydrates.
Furthermore it is abuse to force kids to engage in unhealthy practices and only allow them one meal during schooltimes. Healthy practice would be to have at least three smaller meals during the time at school.
Smaller and more frequent meals ca use a reduction in the size of the stomach and reduce hunger and the correlated overeating when the hungry individual finally gets food.
"However a 5 year old is extremely unlikely to be that restrained and will quite likely reason "I like burgers so I'll order one" every single day. "
No doubt. Where you are mistaken is in thinking the adult would do otherwise. Or in thinking the its the school rather than the parent that has the right to make this choice for the child.
No lettuce guy can't. It takes more calories to digest a head of lettuce than the head of lettuce contains. You would starve to death if you ate lettuce all day long, even if you took a daily multi-vitamin and even if you didn't move.
Fats are only bad if they are combined with a high carb intake, fats are more filling than carbs and keep you full longer and provide more energy over a longer period than even complex carbohydrates. Your body will burn carbs first though. So eat a steak or some fruit but never eat a steak AND some fruit.
Proteins have a high thermic effect and are needed, especially for males, in high quantities to achieve a natural high resting calorie burning metabolism.
We evolved as hunter/gathers, not just hunters (though primarily) and not just gatherers. But we generally didn't do both in the same day.
"And he eats a lot, almost as much as I do, and I'm a pretty big guy. Meat is limited - it's unprocessed but not good to eat in large quantity."
I'm not surprised. Meat (at least some meats) are high in fats and fats are filling. Your other unprocessed foods, especially those carb loaded fruits are high in carbohydrates. Carbs are addictive and carbs only make you want more carbs.
You don't want to eliminate carbs but moderation is needed for a healthy diet. Higher fat and protein content can easily be utilized by the body if you lower carb intake and maintain an active lifestyle and/or workout. Especially for a male, males need LOTS of protein when developing to achieve their full weight and size.
"that the vast majority, probably close to 90%, of meat eaters will say was very good and ask what was in it"
Good is not the same as 'tasted like meat'. You don't ask what is in a meat lasagna, you already know.
You can immediately discount all the smokers since they have no taste buds by definition. Any who don't fit the above simply have no palette.
I've had delicious vegetables and vegetarian dishes but I've never had a meat replacement that was edible. The fact that there are so many attempts is a slight hint that people aren't herbivores.
you are no super taster then. You are probably a smoker, which by definition is incompatible with being a super taster, smokers can't taste at all. Or smell for that matter.
I know, I used to be one. There are two important things to learn, well three if you count quite smoking but an addict won't listen to me anyway. The second is that it is fat that is filling not the meat itself. The second is that the vegetables taste MUCH better lightly cooked or raw. The fish... there is no solution to the fish really.
Its not that easy. First of all you can talk about forming habits all you want but children are calorie burning machines most of them can suck down sugar all day long without gaining weight.
Greasy is not at all as straightforward as you might think. The man and the conformists agree on this point but not all the parents might. There are very healthy individuals who live on a diet composed largely of fats. Fats are filling fats make you not want to eat more, carbs do the opposite.
Equally important, if children are drinking soda at home you aren't going to give them a drink that isn't filled with sugar and have much chance of them drinking it. The same with the food. Those kids will go without rather than eat your 'healthy' meals.
What is it with people and fluoride? The US is the only place IN THE WORLD that thinks fluoride is safe. It is a mutagen and there is no evidence to support the idea that brief contact (as opposed to the prolonged treatments at the dentist) provide any benefit to teeth.
And don't ask for citations I'm sick of providing them. The ADA are stubborn asses that won't admit conclusions they reached in the 50's are wrong and they've wasted millions on fluoridating the water. Besides that might open them liability for the health problems this has caused.
"Ask any teacher, they'll tell you which kids have eaten breakfast in the morning."
And never once discover they don't have this miraculous ability they think they have. I never ate breakfast and never disrupted class.
Tight parental control and making sure lunch money goes where they want it to might be what parents want but that doesn't automatically make it a good thing for kids.
By market stalls you mean vegetable stands, fruit stands, flee market stands, and hot dog stands/carts?
Here in the US stall refers to a tight enclosed space and all of those things are open. The most commonly encountered stalls are found in restrooms. Horses are also kept in stalls.
Not when I was in school. School lunch was a buck and nobody would pick a fight over a dollar.
But then nobody would eat the school lunches either. Schools aren't just tracking whether you bring from home or eat at school anymore. Schools have fast food vendors in the cafeterias now.
My former high school (since I left) now has mcdonalds, subway, and dominos pizza. Before they closed the campus (for student safety, though none were ever hurt) dominos would peddle personals out of a jeep next to the school and subway was within walking distance.
The schools might want to track and make sure students are using the vendors otherwise they would cut them and let someone else in.
I think we will start to see more digital 3d source content.
Not only did people see how it could be with Avatar but the consumer electronics industry is now pushing 3D in a big big way. The 3000-5000 tv's already have the high end refresh required and there are home projectors with the refresh needed for $600-$700 (course the price is closer to the tv's if you add the other components into the equation).
I've found a reliable rule of thumb to be if you see one or two high end tv's with a tech it may or may not happen. But when all of them have it, like they do 3D now, it will happen. The early adopter following are the same people who pay for theatre tickets, the same people who pay top dollar for entertainment at all levels. If they all have 3D tv's there is enough demand for high quality content it can't be ignored.
Define 3D Digital. 3D TVs are 100% digital (outside the power supply) and their 3D process is 100% digital, they just don't utilize passive glasses.
The headaches with consumer 3D display/projectors on the current crop and with a 3D digital film simply aren't present with a high refresh display. The problems seem to be related to the fact that 3D uses a frame for each side and therefore needs double the framerate to achieve an equally smooth video.
"I think the part where you get a headache would qualify as "evidence to support problems with other 3D technologies"."
That doesn't mean it causes depth perception problems in children.
Besides, there is no part where I get a headache. At least no with a high refresh rate display. What people don't realize is that 3D essentially delivers half framerate to each eye so if you don't have a double framerate screen it will cause you a headache for obvious reasons.
"aside from the fact that it's actually bad for your brains (esp. children's brains)"
This applies only to a single type of 3D technology tested by Sega involving two screens placed right on top of the eyes. There is no evidence to support problems with other 3D technologies and no particular reason to believe there might be.
True. But it can definitely enhance the experience when done right. Avatar was an okay flick but what made a good movie into an amazing movie was the 3D experience. Instead of throwing shit at you just to do it the depth completely immersed you in the experience.
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"I would appreciate it if my kid's school would tell me what he was eating or if he was eating. "
A lot more effective is to teach your child to want to eat and to want to eat healthy food. You should do with a wide array of healthy food in the home including food which isn't healthy in excess.
Then after teaching your child this. You should TRUST your child. No, he isn't worthy of that trust but the times your child disobeys you and you don't know about are as crucial to his development as anything you can teach him.
Teaching your child values. Teaching your child you trust him and he can trust you. And teaching your child that it is safe to tell you when he has broken your trust. These are things that yield far greater returns than a police state.
Perhaps we could stop coddling the little critters and go back to open campuses where the students are free to leave at lunchtime.
But again there is no agreement on what is healthy or not. You aren't about to tell my male child that they can't have foods high in protein and saturated fats. Especially a teenager.
Those foods are needed for healthy growth and testosterone production and are perfectly healthy as long as they aren't eaten in combination with significant quantities of carbohydrates.
Furthermore it is abuse to force kids to engage in unhealthy practices and only allow them one meal during schooltimes. Healthy practice would be to have at least three smaller meals during the time at school.
Smaller and more frequent meals ca
use a reduction in the size of the stomach and reduce hunger and the correlated overeating when the hungry individual finally gets food.
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"However a 5 year old is extremely unlikely to be that restrained and will quite likely reason "I like burgers so I'll order one" every single day.
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No doubt. Where you are mistaken is in thinking the adult would do otherwise. Or in thinking the its the school rather than the parent that has the right to make this choice for the child.
No lettuce guy can't. It takes more calories to digest a head of lettuce than the head of lettuce contains. You would starve to death if you ate lettuce all day long, even if you took a daily multi-vitamin and even if you didn't move.
Fats are only bad if they are combined with a high carb intake, fats are more filling than carbs and keep you full longer and provide more energy over a longer period than even complex carbohydrates. Your body will burn carbs first though. So eat a steak or some fruit but never eat a steak AND some fruit.
Proteins have a high thermic effect and are needed, especially for males, in high quantities to achieve a natural high resting calorie burning metabolism.
We evolved as hunter/gathers, not just hunters (though primarily) and not just gatherers. But we generally didn't do both in the same day.
"And he eats a lot, almost as much as I do, and I'm a pretty big guy. Meat is limited - it's unprocessed but not good to eat in large quantity."
I'm not surprised. Meat (at least some meats) are high in fats and fats are filling. Your other unprocessed foods, especially those carb loaded fruits are high in carbohydrates. Carbs are addictive and carbs only make you want more carbs.
You don't want to eliminate carbs but moderation is needed for a healthy diet. Higher fat and protein content can easily be utilized by the body if you lower carb intake and maintain an active lifestyle and/or workout. Especially for a male, males need LOTS of protein when developing to achieve their full weight and size.
See the anabolic diet for an ideal male diet http://www.google.com/search?q=bodybuilder+high+fat+diet&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&expIds=25657,25744,25901,25980,26446,26512&sugexp=ldymls&tok=kBSNp7HValSzD5PBC52yDQ&xhr=t&q=anabolic+diet&cp=11&pf=p&sclient=psy&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=vy5&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&aq=f&aqi=g4g-o1&aql=&oq=anabolic+di&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=ac120c5def92c7e3
First of all okra is delicious.
"that I like just as well as beef"
Good for you.
"that the vast majority, probably close to 90%, of meat eaters will say was very good and ask what was in it"
Good is not the same as 'tasted like meat'. You don't ask what is in a meat lasagna, you already know.
You can immediately discount all the smokers since they have no taste buds by definition. Any who don't fit the above simply have no palette.
I've had delicious vegetables and vegetarian dishes but I've never had a meat replacement that was edible. The fact that there are so many attempts is a slight hint that people aren't herbivores.
you are no super taster then. You are probably a smoker, which by definition is incompatible with being a super taster, smokers can't taste at all. Or smell for that matter.
I know, I used to be one. There are two important things to learn, well three if you count quite smoking but an addict won't listen to me anyway. The second is that it is fat that is filling not the meat itself. The second is that the vegetables taste MUCH better lightly cooked or raw. The fish... there is no solution to the fish really.
Its not that easy. First of all you can talk about forming habits all you want but children are calorie burning machines most of them can suck down sugar all day long without gaining weight.
Greasy is not at all as straightforward as you might think. The man and the conformists agree on this point but not all the parents might. There are very healthy individuals who live on a diet composed largely of fats. Fats are filling fats make you not want to eat more, carbs do the opposite.
Equally important, if children are drinking soda at home you aren't going to give them a drink that isn't filled with sugar and have much chance of them drinking it. The same with the food. Those kids will go without rather than eat your 'healthy' meals.
I'd mod you up but I've already posted.
What is it with people and fluoride? The US is the only place IN THE WORLD that thinks fluoride is safe. It is a mutagen and there is no evidence to support the idea that brief contact (as opposed to the prolonged treatments at the dentist) provide any benefit to teeth.
And don't ask for citations I'm sick of providing them. The ADA are stubborn asses that won't admit conclusions they reached in the 50's are wrong and they've wasted millions on fluoridating the water. Besides that might open them liability for the health problems this has caused.
"Ask any teacher, they'll tell you which kids have eaten breakfast in the morning."
And never once discover they don't have this miraculous ability they think they have. I never ate breakfast and never disrupted class.
Tight parental control and making sure lunch money goes where they want it to might be what parents want but that doesn't automatically make it a good thing for kids.
By market stalls you mean vegetable stands, fruit stands, flee market stands, and hot dog stands/carts?
Here in the US stall refers to a tight enclosed space and all of those things are open. The most commonly encountered stalls are found in restrooms. Horses are also kept in stalls.
You don't see being 5342345 rather than Joe Smith as dehumanizing?
Remember when 6663411 gave his speech about equality and dreams? You might know him as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Missing something eh?
No but long term studies do show that people who eat red meat were 60% more likely to die during the study period than those who didn't.
There are plenty of links between the nitrates in those hotdogs and negative health effects. And of course refined flour is basically just sugar.
The thing is the refined white flour doesn't even really taste better. There is no reason it has to be used for pizza making.
There are a attendants at the automated ones sometimes and there are higher priced ones where they hand wash.
There is also the occasional jailbait filled fundraiser by the local cheer or volleyball squad.
Not when I was in school. School lunch was a buck and nobody would pick a fight over a dollar.
But then nobody would eat the school lunches either. Schools aren't just tracking whether you bring from home or eat at school anymore. Schools have fast food vendors in the cafeterias now.
My former high school (since I left) now has mcdonalds, subway, and dominos pizza. Before they closed the campus (for student safety, though none were ever hurt) dominos would peddle personals out of a jeep next to the school and subway was within walking distance.
The schools might want to track and make sure students are using the vendors otherwise they would cut them and let someone else in.
"That is bullshit, all sources, for instance, the Bible, estimate human lifespan as being essentially the same as today."
Ever actually read the bible? I did. It estimates lifespans that are approaching 1k yrs old which is nowhere near what we have today (or ever).
I think we will start to see more digital 3d source content.
Not only did people see how it could be with Avatar but the consumer electronics industry is now pushing 3D in a big big way. The 3000-5000 tv's already have the high end refresh required and there are home projectors with the refresh needed for $600-$700 (course the price is closer to the tv's if you add the other components into the equation).
I've found a reliable rule of thumb to be if you see one or two high end tv's with a tech it may or may not happen. But when all of them have it, like they do 3D now, it will happen. The early adopter following are the same people who pay for theatre tickets, the same people who pay top dollar for entertainment at all levels. If they all have 3D tv's there is enough demand for high quality content it can't be ignored.
Define 3D Digital. 3D TVs are 100% digital (outside the power supply) and their 3D process is 100% digital, they just don't utilize passive glasses.
The headaches with consumer 3D display/projectors on the current crop and with a 3D digital film simply aren't present with a high refresh display. The problems seem to be related to the fact that 3D uses a frame for each side and therefore needs double the framerate to achieve an equally smooth video.
"I think the part where you get a headache would qualify as "evidence to support problems with other 3D technologies"."
That doesn't mean it causes depth perception problems in children.
Besides, there is no part where I get a headache. At least no with a high refresh rate display. What people don't realize is that 3D essentially delivers half framerate to each eye so if you don't have a double framerate screen it will cause you a headache for obvious reasons.
And that is relevant for the entire non-braindamaged rest of the world how?
P.S. Sorry, that must suck. It just doesn't mean anything for the rest of us.
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"aside from the fact that it's actually bad for your brains (esp. children's brains)"
This applies only to a single type of 3D technology tested by Sega involving two screens placed right on top of the eyes. There is no evidence to support problems with other 3D technologies and no particular reason to believe there might be.
True. But it can definitely enhance the experience when done right. Avatar was an okay flick but what made a good movie into an amazing movie was the 3D experience. Instead of throwing shit at you just to do it the depth completely immersed you in the experience.