'Of course, which is probably why the question mentioned nothing about worth or coder value'
And yet, you outline a system that values of coder in a given area of expertise based on the number of lines of code produced.
Even within 'a given area of expertise' the number of lines of code, or average number of lines of code produced by a developer is a meaningless number beyond determining if the developer is working at all.
An unproductive and useless developer can churn out tons of code that doesn't actually do much. A talented developer might implement that functionality in 5% of the same lines of code. Or produce 20% the number of lines with dramatically fewer bugs per line.
There are definitely plenty of paid coders on the kernel. But are they counting the kernel hackers that companies have chosen to sponsor as paid or as volunteer? Does a grass roots volunteer kernel hacker stop counting once a company sponsors him to be able to contribute full time?
'Ok, now the hubs thing. I say "hubs" for any low end consumer grade unmanaged "switch". For some manufacturers, it was a marketing ploy to say "switch", which just meant "auto speed switching", where it would handle 10baseT/100baseT/100baseTX, but was still a hub (you could see all traffic on all ports).'
Your showing your age here my friend. This hasn't been true for many years.
ASICs offload processing power from the cpu as dedicated hardware. But the PC you are running linux on likely has a CPU that is at least 10x as fast as that in the CISCO routers (and use a lot more power) so they can keep up.
This is one of those things that is as much about marketing as reality. There are no shortage of hardware appliance network boxes like BIG-IP LTM/GTM and Bluecoat ProxySG's that cost tens of thousands of dollars and are nothing more than BSD/Linux rack mounted PC's in a fancy case. These devices have no trouble handling enterprise loads (which is about the only place $50k+ pieces of equipment will be found in the racks).
The linux box does consume much more power to accomplish the task than the cisco with its ASICs but the raw power is definitely there. A more significant concern than the processing is the bus speed. I doubt that is a problem if he is concerned about an $800 software license (mentioned in a suggestion earlier) in that kind of budget range he isn't going to have links that could tax the bus.
true, but on a wireless link you can crack the encryption and sniff the traffic to find an appropriate mac. You'd need nothing more than software and the wireless adapter to do it.
On a wired link you would need to have an appropriate link before you can begin to sniff traffic
"By "properly" I mean segregation between the internal LAN, on a secured wireless link, and the open guest wireless; along with QoS prioritization of all internet traffic from the internal LAN above all internet traffic from the open wireless."
If you are interested in security, why do you have your internal lan on the wireless in the first place?
"This is not a hard problem, technologically; but it isn't something that Joe User could set up without it being largely out-of-box default."
Agreed. Most of the open hotspots aren't from generous souls. They are ignorant souls who plug in the router and use the defaults. There are quite a few networks around named "linksys".
"Suggesting that DES is not broken is very silly because "not being broken" implies on some level that it is still acceptable to use."
Your point, in summary seemed to be that saying RSA 768bit was "not being broken" was unacceptable because it implied that RSA 768bit was acceptable to use.
My point was that during any sort of sane key lifespan, RSA is proof against multiple super computers and that makes it very acceptable to use for almost any purpose.
This team cracked ONE key and it took them 3 supercomputers and 2.5yrs.
Factorization was possible before it was every actually done. Factorization of 1024bit keys is already possible even though it has not yet been.
768bit RSA is no more or less safe to use than it was yesterday. Considering the efforts it took to crack, I'd say 768bit RSA with key expiration of less than 2.5yrs is EXTREMELY safe to use.
As for the rest, all of that is limited or handicapped because of NAT. Centralized servers are required because people are not directly addressable.
The preference for DNS over directly typing in an address doesn't change with a move over to IPv6. DNS can point to big addresses on home computers as easily as short ones on a hosting provider.
'And IPV4 vs 6 has nothing to do with Doanload rates and bandwidth.'
It has everything to do with end user systems being internet routable and serving their own content. I don't recall saying anything about technology to provide bandwidth magically changing. The demand is what will change. The demand in an IPv6 world will be centered around serving your own content and removing middle men like youtube.
And nobody has any significant wealth to confiscate unless they dupe someone.
The laws a reality do no permit for every man to keep what is his. Your choices are thus, the strong can take from the weak, groups with collective strength can take from the weak, or greedy can dupe the weak into working for them. Government is by definition the second of those and everything is really some variation of the first.
Strong might refer to physical strength, military strength, political strength, financial strength, intellectual strength, or strength of will but every realistic and sustainable scenerio involves the strong using or abusing the weak.
If you think about it, the entire market and economy is nothing more than a complicated scheme to justify some people sitting on their laurels (investors) while other people perform all actual labor and production. The whole scam exists to create the illusion that a class of people who live entirely off the cream of others production are somehow contributing by 'investing' some of that cream back.
And are you required to carry an ID, file your fingerprints and DNA, do you need a license to go fishing. If you do technically need these things, is anyone enforcing them?
I have been to corrupt third world countries. For instance Guyana or Jamaica outside the tourist zone where police walk down the streets with machine guns. The government is much more corrupt and dirty, but the individual is much more free in their day to day life.
Why take a perfectly good list of government services and throw in an example of nasty government overreaching and control?
The FDA should be to drugs what the USDA is to beef. If the product is produced commercially for distribution then it must be produced safely and meet criteria but the government has no business regulating who can purchase medications or what medications they can purchase.
IPv6 means static addresses, even the possibility of porting addresses like you do phone numbers, and that means tons of benefit to consumers.
It means the end of nat which offers loads of benefits to IT.
But both of those benefits probably mean the end of the end users are downloaders and we can rape anyone who wants decent upload rates or to serve content. This is the last thing the telcos want which is the reason IPv6 hasn't come to a device near you.
There is a reason that despite no end user IPv6 rollout 80% of TLD are ready to go but only 10% of provider networks are ready. Consumer PC operating systems pretty much all support IPv6 at this point.
Something has to give soon. We are roughly 624 days away from running out of IPv4 address space.
Yes diplomats have immunity but they aren't police officers and don't work for a police organization. In fact, most lower level diplomats don't have immunity either.
"Even if heavy snowfall would mean... using double of time to travel to work by bicycle."
If you are traveling to work on a bicycle in snow, or a winter cold enough for there to be snow you have more important things to do than Slashdot. Like counseling.
"That was rather shocking to me. This idea of "us" and "them", of "real all american" and "illegals"....You do realise that once upon a time, not so long ago in the grand scheme of things, America was very different to it is now? It hasnt always been this way, like evolution, its going to keep changing, it doesnt just "stop"."
It changes, it evolves, we aren't talking about evolving American culture, we are talking about inviting extinction.
Yes it is us and them. If it weren't us and them there wouldn't be distinct terms for Mexicans and Americans.
"You do know that beneath the little terms that are thrown at them, "illegals" ARE real people too?"
That doesn't make them Americans now does it?
The law effectively IS America. It is the collective voice of the American people. The first act of illegals is to willfully break our law (despite easy legal immigration policies) so they can stay off the radar when they get here and break more of our laws.
This sort of person has nothing to offer the United States.
"Things that people who live their would have grown up with, but that I've never seen before. I'd never seen a mosque before, or been to asian markets such as the ones in the larger centres here. There are advertisements in languages I dont understand, messages signwritten onto cars."
I've spent years living in cities like you speak of and the diversity is great. But American culture IS a melting pot of diverse customs.
See how crazy you are about those other languages when your city is flooded within the span of ten to twenty years with immigrants. Your home which has been passed from family to family for generations is now located within a community in which you have no effective vote. Where local services are no longer offered in your own language.
You can't so much as use the postal service in English anymore. Service staff who are bi-lingual and speak perfect English refuse to help you because they are convinced that your home belongs to them by right.
Finally when you are forced to move from your family home because you can't even a piece of meat cut at the butcher anymore. Then, you can tell me how wonderful an idea mass immigration is.
"Doing so without any recognition of that previous legacy is pathetic."
It is recognized in the form of casinos and reservations. Or do you think the United States grants native Americans special status because we fear their wrath if we repeal the treaties?
"Probably forested most geographically hostile areas, where cameras can't easily be placed, are going to be more favored crossing points. "
Forested? Are there any forested areas on the border? I was under the impression the entire region was a desert without much vegetation beyond sage brush.
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'Of course, which is probably why the question mentioned nothing about worth or coder value'
And yet, you outline a system that values of coder in a given area of expertise based on the number of lines of code produced.
Even within 'a given area of expertise' the number of lines of code, or average number of lines of code produced by a developer is a meaningless number beyond determining if the developer is working at all.
An unproductive and useless developer can churn out tons of code that doesn't actually do much. A talented developer might implement that functionality in 5% of the same lines of code. Or produce 20% the number of lines with dramatically fewer bugs per line.
A performance is labor, as opposed to selling millions of copies of a recorded album.
There are definitely plenty of paid coders on the kernel. But are they counting the kernel hackers that companies have chosen to sponsor as paid or as volunteer? Does a grass roots volunteer kernel hacker stop counting once a company sponsors him to be able to contribute full time?
'Ok, now the hubs thing. I say "hubs" for any low end consumer grade unmanaged "switch". For some manufacturers, it was a marketing ploy to say "switch", which just meant "auto speed switching", where it would handle 10baseT/100baseT/100baseTX, but was still a hub (you could see all traffic on all ports).'
Your showing your age here my friend. This hasn't been true for many years.
ASICs offload processing power from the cpu as dedicated hardware. But the PC you are running linux on likely has a CPU that is at least 10x as fast as that in the CISCO routers (and use a lot more power) so they can keep up.
This is one of those things that is as much about marketing as reality. There are no shortage of hardware appliance network boxes like BIG-IP LTM/GTM and Bluecoat ProxySG's that cost tens of thousands of dollars and are nothing more than BSD/Linux rack mounted PC's in a fancy case. These devices have no trouble handling enterprise loads (which is about the only place $50k+ pieces of equipment will be found in the racks).
The linux box does consume much more power to accomplish the task than the cisco with its ASICs but the raw power is definitely there. A more significant concern than the processing is the bus speed. I doubt that is a problem if he is concerned about an $800 software license (mentioned in a suggestion earlier) in that kind of budget range he isn't going to have links that could tax the bus.
They have no copyright on the information so what good does the watermark do?
How exactly are people supposed to do that without reading TFA? This is slashdot after all...
If its untested then it would be a hypothesis, not a theory.
yup, besides its a stretch for your average idiot to manage to manipulate all the buttons required to join an open wifi link.
Nobody outside of the IT world is going to know how to crack WEP or anything else.
true, but on a wireless link you can crack the encryption and sniff the traffic to find an appropriate mac. You'd need nothing more than software and the wireless adapter to do it.
On a wired link you would need to have an appropriate link before you can begin to sniff traffic
That's great. But I can hack your wep from the cafe across the street. I don't need to defeat your physical security like I do your open port.
And that assumes your switch doesn't have port security enabled, in which case your foreign mac won't get a link anyway.
"By "properly" I mean segregation between the internal LAN, on a secured wireless link, and the open guest wireless; along with QoS prioritization of all internet traffic from the internal LAN above all internet traffic from the open wireless."
If you are interested in security, why do you have your internal lan on the wireless in the first place?
"This is not a hard problem, technologically; but it isn't something that Joe User could set up without it being largely out-of-box default."
Agreed. Most of the open hotspots aren't from generous souls. They are ignorant souls who plug in the router and use the defaults. There are quite a few networks around named "linksys".
True but if you just don't want everyone to take your sister for a ride then WEP is fine.
I could certainly break into your wep secured system but why would I bother? There are plenty of open ones around.
"Suggesting that DES is not broken is very silly because "not being broken" implies on some level that it is still acceptable to use."
Your point, in summary seemed to be that saying RSA 768bit was "not being broken" was unacceptable because it implied that RSA 768bit was acceptable to use.
My point was that during any sort of sane key lifespan, RSA is proof against multiple super computers and that makes it very acceptable to use for almost any purpose.
This team cracked ONE key and it took them 3 supercomputers and 2.5yrs.
Factorization was possible before it was every actually done. Factorization of 1024bit keys is already possible even though it has not yet been.
768bit RSA is no more or less safe to use than it was yesterday. Considering the efforts it took to crack, I'd say 768bit RSA with key expiration of less than 2.5yrs is EXTREMELY safe to use.
IPv4 countdown is here: http://ipv6.he.net/
As for the rest, all of that is limited or handicapped because of NAT. Centralized servers are required because people are not directly addressable.
The preference for DNS over directly typing in an address doesn't change with a move over to IPv6. DNS can point to big addresses on home computers as easily as short ones on a hosting provider.
'And IPV4 vs 6 has nothing to do with Doanload rates and bandwidth.'
It has everything to do with end user systems being internet routable and serving their own content. I don't recall saying anything about technology to provide bandwidth magically changing. The demand is what will change. The demand in an IPv6 world will be centered around serving your own content and removing middle men like youtube.
And nobody has any significant wealth to confiscate unless they dupe someone.
The laws a reality do no permit for every man to keep what is his. Your choices are thus, the strong can take from the weak, groups with collective strength can take from the weak, or greedy can dupe the weak into working for them. Government is by definition the second of those and everything is really some variation of the first.
Strong might refer to physical strength, military strength, political strength, financial strength, intellectual strength, or strength of will but every realistic and sustainable scenerio involves the strong using or abusing the weak.
If you think about it, the entire market and economy is nothing more than a complicated scheme to justify some people sitting on their laurels (investors) while other people perform all actual labor and production. The whole scam exists to create the illusion that a class of people who live entirely off the cream of others production are somehow contributing by 'investing' some of that cream back.
And are you required to carry an ID, file your fingerprints and DNA, do you need a license to go fishing. If you do technically need these things, is anyone enforcing them?
I have been to corrupt third world countries. For instance Guyana or Jamaica outside the tourist zone where police walk down the streets with machine guns. The government is much more corrupt and dirty, but the individual is much more free in their day to day life.
'the approved medicine you take'
Why take a perfectly good list of government services and throw in an example of nasty government overreaching and control?
The FDA should be to drugs what the USDA is to beef. If the product is produced commercially for distribution then it must be produced safely and meet criteria but the government has no business regulating who can purchase medications or what medications they can purchase.
IPv6 means static addresses, even the possibility of porting addresses like you do phone numbers, and that means tons of benefit to consumers.
It means the end of nat which offers loads of benefits to IT.
But both of those benefits probably mean the end of the end users are downloaders and we can rape anyone who wants decent upload rates or to serve content. This is the last thing the telcos want which is the reason IPv6 hasn't come to a device near you.
There is a reason that despite no end user IPv6 rollout 80% of TLD are ready to go but only 10% of provider networks are ready. Consumer PC operating systems pretty much all support IPv6 at this point.
Something has to give soon. We are roughly 624 days away from running out of IPv4 address space.
Yes diplomats have immunity but they aren't police officers and don't work for a police organization. In fact, most lower level diplomats don't have immunity either.
"Even if heavy snowfall would mean... using double of time to travel to work by bicycle."
If you are traveling to work on a bicycle in snow, or a winter cold enough for there to be snow you have more important things to do than Slashdot. Like counseling.
"That was rather shocking to me. This idea of "us" and "them", of "real all american" and "illegals"....You do realise that once upon a time, not so long ago in the grand scheme of things, America was very different to it is now? It hasnt always been this way, like evolution, its going to keep changing, it doesnt just "stop"."
It changes, it evolves, we aren't talking about evolving American culture, we are talking about inviting extinction.
Yes it is us and them. If it weren't us and them there wouldn't be distinct terms for Mexicans and Americans.
"You do know that beneath the little terms that are thrown at them, "illegals" ARE real people too?"
That doesn't make them Americans now does it?
The law effectively IS America. It is the collective voice of the American people. The first act of illegals is to willfully break our law (despite easy legal immigration policies) so they can stay off the radar when they get here and break more of our laws.
This sort of person has nothing to offer the United States.
"Things that people who live their would have grown up with, but that I've never seen before. I'd never seen a mosque before, or been to asian markets such as the ones in the larger centres here. There are advertisements in languages I dont understand, messages signwritten onto cars."
I've spent years living in cities like you speak of and the diversity is great. But American culture IS a melting pot of diverse customs.
See how crazy you are about those other languages when your city is flooded within the span of ten to twenty years with immigrants. Your home which has been passed from family to family for generations is now located within a community in which you have no effective vote. Where local services are no longer offered in your own language.
You can't so much as use the postal service in English anymore. Service staff who are bi-lingual and speak perfect English refuse to help you because they are convinced that your home belongs to them by right.
Finally when you are forced to move from your family home because you can't even a piece of meat cut at the butcher anymore. Then, you can tell me how wonderful an idea mass immigration is.
"Doing so without any recognition of that previous legacy is pathetic."
It is recognized in the form of casinos and reservations. Or do you think the United States grants native Americans special status because we fear their wrath if we repeal the treaties?
"Probably forested most geographically hostile areas, where cameras can't easily be placed, are going to be more favored crossing points. "
Forested? Are there any forested areas on the border? I was under the impression the entire region was a desert without much vegetation beyond sage brush.