"So such a label could be required- but we'd also have to label Occam's Razor and the scientific method itself the same."
Occam's Razor is false logic; always has been. The scientific method is not. If you had followed my posts over my slashdot history you would find that I have debated extensively with everyone from script kiddies to NASA rocket scientists over the merits of Occam's Razor.
Even that is ignoring the biggest flaw in the popularity argument. While windows systems are the most numerous, the most desirable targets for crackers are almost universally using non-microsoft applications.
Lets see, you could get access to my $200 visa on a windows box, or you could gain access to 5,000,000 $200 visa's by cracking a *nix box: which is the common hacker more likely to target again?
I do think there should be a note mentioning it as one of those beliefs commonly accepted in the dark ages that has no place in an enlightened modern society that bases belief in fact rather than picking random mythical figures for which there is no evidence and believing in them because someone told us we "just have to believe".
"But even with this admittedly human failing, the scientific demand for reproducibiity has a much better record than any legal investigations, both in discovering incorrect results and in teaching, punishing or rehabilitating the errant researcher."
The thing to bear in mind here is that this point cannot be validated. You see, there is simply no way of knowing how many invalid results have never been discovered precisely BECAUSE they have never been discovered. The same is true of perfect crimes and convicted innocents.
"Yeah, I didn't think so; this is Slashdot, after all."
That is true. Slashdot is a place for casual discussion and english lessons are offtopic.
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"there is no case where you can say something about religion that you can't say about supposedly non-religious social structures."
That is exactly the conclusion this solid line of logic leads to.
"public schools become religious institutions where students are indoctrinated for 12+ years into a certain model of seeing and thinking about the world"
Interesting observation.
I agree with you completely and have no intention of retracting my statements or qualifying them to limit scope.
There is one very important difference between religious structures and present day social structures. Present day social structures only claim they are telling you what to do because you are incompetent in the game of life. Religious structures include the afterlife in that and tend to further mock by acting as if you would believe in sea creatures and all seeing all powerful invisible men who can't be tested or questioned.
I know that in criminal cases the jury is empowered by the constitution to judge the merit of facts AND the merits of the relevant laws in their decisions. The supreme court has ruled on this matter as well, determining that judges have no obligation to inform juries of this right but also that juries have it. Judges use this to justify instructing juries that they must rule according to the letter of the law.
"The problem is there is far more fraud in religion than in science."
Yup. Regligion itself is the biggest fraud in religion. Religion was developed by primative societies as a way of controling the citizens. Today it remains a way for societies to control ignorant citizens.
"In some cases, you find that a particular lab's results have always been easily reproducible, so you start accepting them before they've been independently tested. But that should be the special case. The default should be that everything is considered tentative until independently verified."
No, there should not be ANY special cases like you mention. A past history of reproducibility is not a valid indicator of the reproducability of new results. You have no way of knowing if the lab made a mistake or changed staff (after all, the respected names are often individuals who take credit for the results of talented staff).
Every result needs to be independently verified if possible, not merely by default, but in every instance.
It is bad enough we attribute these baseless sentimentalities to human life. Let's not extend it to clones as well. If you harvest a defective clone you simply destroy it and recycle the protein to use to nourish a new one.
You seem to know alot about the physical composition of discs. That or are a high enough quality bs artist that I'll go with it. Is the same true for DVD+/- R and RW discs? Can we expect to see the same problems mentioned in this article?
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"Don't get this game expecting to solo. A lot of folks have pissed and moaned about that, but they are trying to be pretty true to the Pen and Paper (PnP) rules and designs. You almost never see a DM spend all this time to create a world, dungeons, and the like, and then have them sit down at a table with a lone player with a lone character. Get over your wish to solo. It's a MMO. You are supposed to be grouping!"
You must have played 2nd edition or higher. Somewhere they got obsessed with charts, rolls, and complex design and lost focus on gameplay. We always played with a combination of 1st and 2nd edition rules (mostly 1st ed) that allowed for simplified gameplay. If someone had a quest prepared then great, otherwise whoever felt like it would be the DM and approve characters of the level he felt like dming. Then he would game by the seat of his pants.
We could never play those stupid box sets right because they limited actions that could be taken.
I dunno. The perfect ruleset always seem to be a combination of 1st and 2nd Edition rules, most things went downhill in 2nd Ed. and continued to go downhill from there.
Some people prefer the social interaction to occur outside of combat and combat to be solo. At the very least they want to be able to play for a bit when there is nobody they can group with. let's also not forget taht in every mmorpg there are classes that can get groups anytime and classes that are only picked if there is nobody else on. In this game there appears to be no social interaction outside of combat so that does knock out one of these reasons for soloing.
While that is certainly true. Sun does not have Microsoft's notorious history. Clearly, at this point, Microsoft has proven itself to be the least trustworthy of technology companies where compatibility is concerned.
Quite simply, no company has as large a history of trying to trap competitors with illusory compatibility. Publishing a full spec and then clenching down on the patents after significant adoption is one way to do this.
Since when does anyone EVER conciously buy anything from ads? Advertising is most effective by causing brand recognition and making you aware of products. Later when you hit a store you see x product and think you might need it. Your brain automatically associates product x with the brand you saw advertised on a sub-concious or concious level. If you saw the ad, it has already done its job.
I prefer journals the present the articles and leave it to me to decide if the information contained in them is valid. "Mainstream" journals do not print extreme material, it has to start somewhere.
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"What are we supposed to do now? Switch to CUPS?"
Simply because it has been the de facto standard for a decade? Of course not.
"So such a label could be required- but we'd also have to label Occam's Razor and the scientific method itself the same."
Occam's Razor is false logic; always has been. The scientific method is not. If you had followed my posts over my slashdot history you would find that I have debated extensively with everyone from script kiddies to NASA rocket scientists over the merits of Occam's Razor.
Even that is ignoring the biggest flaw in the popularity argument. While windows systems are the most numerous, the most desirable targets for crackers are almost universally using non-microsoft applications.
Lets see, you could get access to my $200 visa on a windows box, or you could gain access to 5,000,000 $200 visa's by cracking a *nix box: which is the common hacker more likely to target again?
DRM is like Thermal Nuclear War. The only way to win is not to play at all.
I do think there should be a note mentioning it as one of those beliefs commonly accepted in the dark ages that has no place in an enlightened modern society that bases belief in fact rather than picking random mythical figures for which there is no evidence and believing in them because someone told us we "just have to believe".
"But even with this admittedly human failing, the scientific demand for reproducibiity has a much better record than any legal investigations, both in discovering incorrect results and in teaching, punishing or rehabilitating the errant researcher."
The thing to bear in mind here is that this point cannot be validated. You see, there is simply no way of knowing how many invalid results have never been discovered precisely BECAUSE they have never been discovered. The same is true of perfect crimes and convicted innocents.
"Yeah, I didn't think so; this is Slashdot, after all."
That is true. Slashdot is a place for casual discussion and english lessons are offtopic.
Also...
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"there is no case where you can say something about religion that you can't say about supposedly non-religious social structures."
That is exactly the conclusion this solid line of logic leads to.
"public schools become religious institutions where students are indoctrinated for 12+ years into a certain model of seeing and thinking about the world"
Interesting observation.
I agree with you completely and have no intention of retracting my statements or qualifying them to limit scope.
There is one very important difference between religious structures and present day social structures. Present day social structures only claim they are telling you what to do because you are incompetent in the game of life. Religious structures include the afterlife in that and tend to further mock by acting as if you would believe in sea creatures and all seeing all powerful invisible men who can't be tested or questioned.
I know that in criminal cases the jury is empowered by the constitution to judge the merit of facts AND the merits of the relevant laws in their decisions. The supreme court has ruled on this matter as well, determining that judges have no obligation to inform juries of this right but also that juries have it. Judges use this to justify instructing juries that they must rule according to the letter of the law.
This may be different for civil cases.
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"The problem is there is far more fraud in religion than in science."
Yup. Regligion itself is the biggest fraud in religion. Religion was developed by primative societies as a way of controling the citizens. Today it remains a way for societies to control ignorant citizens.
"In some cases, you find that a particular lab's results have always been easily reproducible, so you start accepting them before they've been independently tested. But that should be the special case. The default should be that everything is considered tentative until independently verified."
No, there should not be ANY special cases like you mention. A past history of reproducibility is not a valid indicator of the reproducability of new results. You have no way of knowing if the lab made a mistake or changed staff (after all, the respected names are often individuals who take credit for the results of talented staff).
Every result needs to be independently verified if possible, not merely by default, but in every instance.
It is bad enough we attribute these baseless sentimentalities to human life. Let's not extend it to clones as well. If you harvest a defective clone you simply destroy it and recycle the protein to use to nourish a new one.
You seem to know alot about the physical composition of discs. That or are a high enough quality bs artist that I'll go with it. Is the same true for DVD+/- R and RW discs? Can we expect to see the same problems mentioned in this article?
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According to TFA none of these things exist in this game. There is no social interaction outside of dungeons, no pvp, and no trade either.
"Don't get this game expecting to solo. A lot of folks have pissed and moaned about that, but they are trying to be pretty true to the Pen and Paper (PnP) rules and designs. You almost never see a DM spend all this time to create a world, dungeons, and the like, and then have them sit down at a table with a lone player with a lone character. Get over your wish to solo. It's a MMO. You are supposed to be grouping!"
You must have played 2nd edition or higher. Somewhere they got obsessed with charts, rolls, and complex design and lost focus on gameplay. We always played with a combination of 1st and 2nd edition rules (mostly 1st ed) that allowed for simplified gameplay. If someone had a quest prepared then great, otherwise whoever felt like it would be the DM and approve characters of the level he felt like dming. Then he would game by the seat of his pants.
We could never play those stupid box sets right because they limited actions that could be taken.
I dunno. The perfect ruleset always seem to be a combination of 1st and 2nd Edition rules, most things went downhill in 2nd Ed. and continued to go downhill from there.
Some people prefer the social interaction to occur outside of combat and combat to be solo. At the very least they want to be able to play for a bit when there is nobody they can group with. let's also not forget taht in every mmorpg there are classes that can get groups anytime and classes that are only picked if there is nobody else on. In this game there appears to be no social interaction outside of combat so that does knock out one of these reasons for soloing.
While that is certainly true. Sun does not have Microsoft's notorious history. Clearly, at this point, Microsoft has proven itself to be the least trustworthy of technology companies where compatibility is concerned.
Quite simply, no company has as large a history of trying to trap competitors with illusory compatibility. Publishing a full spec and then clenching down on the patents after significant adoption is one way to do this.
"and I'm not buying anything from the ads"
Since when does anyone EVER conciously buy anything from ads? Advertising is most effective by causing brand recognition and making you aware of products. Later when you hit a store you see x product and think you might need it. Your brain automatically associates product x with the brand you saw advertised on a sub-concious or concious level. If you saw the ad, it has already done its job.
Yes, thankyou.
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I prefer journals the present the articles and leave it to me to decide if the information contained in them is valid. "Mainstream" journals do not print extreme material, it has to start somewhere.
Yes and presumably the rain that would have fallen anyway was red because it had picked up material in the atmosphere from the tail of the meteor.