The first ime I saw the Work Place Shell. It was work of art when compared to that monstrosity called PROGMAN that Win 3.1 had. I still think that Win9x/XP's shell is not as good. Even the simple Eye candy stuff like transparent background on ICON text.
The first time I used PMMAIL for OS/2. Still a great e-mail app and the only shareware I have EVER resgisterd... I still use the windows version of PMMAIL, it is showing its age but it is great. http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com
The first time the Single Input Que was completly SMASHED beyond recovery, and the many many other times after that. Sure the system was still running, my downloads continued, apps kept grinding away ok, just couldn't do a thing with the computer (this had a 'bandaid' fix in version 4, but it dodn't work very well).
The first time I realized how many webapges had converted to FRAMES, which IBM's Webexplorer did not support. I kept wondering why so many pages looked like trash.
When winnuke was making the rounds a lot of cheating Quake players would try to 'nuke' my machine to make me lose. Too bad I was playing Quake under OS/2. That pirated/leaked/whatever copy of QUAKE/2 was faster than the native DOS version and the Win32 version on my machine.
What killed OS/2? In my opinion...
1 - The lack of a good browser, IBM's webexplorer blew chunks, Netscape OS/2 version were old and unstable.
2 - That GD Single Input Que. Not problem with if the apps being use are well written and 'bullet proof'. But there wasn't much choice for apps in the OS/2 world.
3 - No games. Thats why I changed. Online gaming was adictive. It was the oonly reason I turned on my computer for about a year or so.
4 - Marketing. Who gives a flip if some italian/spanish/portugues/whatever nun is using Warp? Good grief! lots of their commercials were in FORIEGN languages with subtitles. That alone excludes the majority of windoze lusers that are too lazy to read!
5 - It did not grow with hardware. Good luck getting almost any new soundcard, modem or video card working under OS/2. Have a large hard drive? Anything over 4.3GB is going to require some updates. Want to use any USB devices? Have fun writing them.
That said. I miss OS/2. I think I might keep an eye out for a low end P2 system to install it on just for old times sake. There are a lot of open source linux apps ported over now... sure it seems illogical to install warp just to use ported linux apps that are allready installed on my Win2k or Mandrak machine, but who said geeks are logical?
You can buy PC's only from government monopolies...
Hey wait a sec! Won't shifting the burden to PC makers weed out the small fries, and even many medium sized companies? Leaving only the large companies that already have the infrastructure in place for such a program? Dang. No wonder HP is backing the bill. Why fight clones if you can get the government to do it in of the name of the enviroment?
I think most if not all mega corporation would build PC's out of ivory and dolphin skin if the materials where cheap enough and public opinion didn't hurt sales.
(Frustration and PAIN from MS) - ($ Earned at MS) = INSANITY
I finaly gave up on Mandrake and reinstalled Win2k w/OO, not that Win2k is better, it's just that I am a lazy BASTARD!... Oh wait, I already mentioned having worked for MS.
Does this happen often to you? I just switched to Phoenix from Mozilla because Mozilla's bookmarks and preferences would get destroyed at least once a week (with version 1.0.x to 1.2b). Seems scandisk just loves to gooble down those files!
This morning the same thing happened to Phoenix so I decided to convert from FAT32 to NTFS to hopefully fix the problem. I sure hope that works. I figured it was a problem with my FAT32 partition because other than this post I have heard no mention of this problem ANYWHERE.
I grab all sorts of junk from Kazaa. New release Movies and DVD's, music, eBooks, TV shows EVERYTHING.
Why would I go buy this stuff? Most of it is CRAP. It's almost like a game for me, get as much CRAP as I can and then share it and see how fast my status can rise to 'Guru' or 'Diety'.
Actualy it is even worse than that, I use Kazaa Lite so I don't get all those annoying ads popping up all the time. Not only am I stealing from the Media giants aI am stealing from Sharman/Kazaa.
Humm.. I wonder if slash posts are admissable in court?
PROBES? Why would they have needed probes? The moon landings where broadcast live right? If that signal was actualy coming from some remote Arizona/Nevada/Utah desert location I'd think the USSR, China and thousands of private citizens would have screamed foul.
I think that 256MB would be overkill.
I tried out ViaVoice when it came with OS/2 Warp 4. The first time I installed it I trained it for about 60 minutes. My thinking was that if 10 minutes is good then 60 minutes would be even better.
Training it for 60 minutes made a large 'dictionary' that slowed the app down so much it was virtualy useless, so I deleted it.
A few months later I installed it again but only trained ot for 10 minutes. It worked very well with the smaller voice 'dictionary'. I later found out that if the voice dictionary is too large it just confused the software. I guess I should have read the intructions!
Keep in mind this was an old Cyrix-P150 with 32MB of RAM and a variety of other trash hardware. I think one of those Xscale might hande it. BUT, I would think the FPU on those are pretty poor, if I where designing a cheap, low voltage, small, cool running CPU thats main function would be a contact list, scheduling, note taking, and silly games I would kill or cripple the FPU portion... then again if I were designing chips people would probably prefer a small notepad and pencil to a PDA.
~Zilch
Gillette? The Razor people? Scrud! Alien Technology should sell them the receiver units real cheap and then charge $5.00 for those $.10 tags!
I sure wish those Mach 3 Ultras weren't so expensive, everything else seems like broken glass bits on the end of a stick now:(
~Zilch
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I loved OS/2 Warp
So many great memories.
The first ime I saw the Work Place Shell. It was work of art when compared to that monstrosity called PROGMAN that Win 3.1 had. I still think that Win9x/XP's shell is not as good. Even the simple Eye candy stuff like transparent background on ICON text.
The first time I used PMMAIL for OS/2. Still a great e-mail app and the only shareware I have EVER resgisterd... I still use the windows version of PMMAIL, it is showing its age but it is great. http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com
The first time the Single Input Que was completly SMASHED beyond recovery, and the many many other times after that. Sure the system was still running, my downloads continued, apps kept grinding away ok, just couldn't do a thing with the computer (this had a 'bandaid' fix in version 4, but it dodn't work very well).
The first time I realized how many webapges had converted to FRAMES, which IBM's Webexplorer did not support. I kept wondering why so many pages looked like trash.
When winnuke was making the rounds a lot of cheating Quake players would try to 'nuke' my machine to make me lose. Too bad I was playing Quake under OS/2. That pirated/leaked/whatever copy of QUAKE/2 was faster than the native DOS version and the Win32 version on my machine.
What killed OS/2? In my opinion...
1 - The lack of a good browser, IBM's webexplorer blew chunks, Netscape OS/2 version were old and unstable.
2 - That GD Single Input Que. Not problem with if the apps being use are well written and 'bullet proof'. But there wasn't much choice for apps in the OS/2 world.
3 - No games. Thats why I changed. Online gaming was adictive. It was the oonly reason I turned on my computer for about a year or so.
4 - Marketing. Who gives a flip if some italian/spanish/portugues/whatever nun is using Warp? Good grief! lots of their commercials were in FORIEGN languages with subtitles. That alone excludes the majority of windoze lusers that are too lazy to read!
5 - It did not grow with hardware. Good luck getting almost any new soundcard, modem or video card working under OS/2. Have a large hard drive? Anything over 4.3GB is going to require some updates. Want to use any USB devices? Have fun writing them.
That said. I miss OS/2. I think I might keep an eye out for a low end P2 system to install it on just for old times sake. There are a lot of open source linux apps ported over now... sure it seems illogical to install warp just to use ported linux apps that are allready installed on my Win2k or Mandrak machine, but who said geeks are logical?
~Z
I agree!
Somethings are better left ALONE.
I didn't even bother seeing all of "Batman and Robin", or "The Scorpion King". What consumer trash. Will it ever end?
I wonder how much Wal-MArt will be selling the Max Action figure for? I hope there will be a set complete with fruturistic retro car.
Polsihing Script = "Insert expensive digital eye candy where creative writing should be"
> Maybe HP realizes they can do this in other
> businesses, why not computers?
Or you could ask WHY do this to computers? HP is a company, other than sprucing up their corporate image they must have a financial insentive.
I wonder if they found some nifty process that they have a patent on?
~Z
You can buy PC's only from government monopolies...
Hey wait a sec! Won't shifting the burden to PC makers weed out the small fries, and even many medium sized companies? Leaving only the large companies that already have the infrastructure in place for such a program? Dang. No wonder HP is backing the bill. Why fight clones if you can get the government to do it in of the name of the enviroment?
I think most if not all mega corporation would build PC's out of ivory and dolphin skin if the materials where cheap enough and public opinion didn't hurt sales.
~Z
(Employee copy of Win2k) + (Enmployee Overtime Bonus Office 2K Pro) = FREE
(Download of Mandrake) + (Open Office) = FREE
(Frustration and PAIN from MS) - ($ Earned at MS) = INSANITY
I finaly gave up on Mandrake and reinstalled Win2k w/OO, not that Win2k is better, it's just that I am a lazy BASTARD!... Oh wait, I already mentioned having worked for MS.
~Z
Does this happen often to you? I just switched to Phoenix from Mozilla because Mozilla's bookmarks and preferences would get destroyed at least once a week (with version 1.0.x to 1.2b). Seems scandisk just loves to gooble down those files!
This morning the same thing happened to Phoenix so I decided to convert from FAT32 to NTFS to hopefully fix the problem. I sure hope that works. I figured it was a problem with my FAT32 partition because other than this post I have heard no mention of this problem ANYWHERE.
Z
I grab all sorts of junk from Kazaa. New release Movies and DVD's, music, eBooks, TV shows EVERYTHING.
Why would I go buy this stuff? Most of it is CRAP. It's almost like a game for me, get as much CRAP as I can and then share it and see how fast my status can rise to 'Guru' or 'Diety'.
Actualy it is even worse than that, I use Kazaa Lite so I don't get all those annoying ads popping up all the time. Not only am I stealing from the Media giants aI am stealing from Sharman/Kazaa.
Humm.. I wonder if slash posts are admissable in court?
PROBES? Why would they have needed probes? The moon landings where broadcast live right? If that signal was actualy coming from some remote Arizona/Nevada/Utah desert location I'd think the USSR, China and thousands of private citizens would have screamed foul.
I think that 256MB would be overkill. I tried out ViaVoice when it came with OS/2 Warp 4. The first time I installed it I trained it for about 60 minutes. My thinking was that if 10 minutes is good then 60 minutes would be even better. Training it for 60 minutes made a large 'dictionary' that slowed the app down so much it was virtualy useless, so I deleted it. A few months later I installed it again but only trained ot for 10 minutes. It worked very well with the smaller voice 'dictionary'. I later found out that if the voice dictionary is too large it just confused the software. I guess I should have read the intructions! Keep in mind this was an old Cyrix-P150 with 32MB of RAM and a variety of other trash hardware. I think one of those Xscale might hande it. BUT, I would think the FPU on those are pretty poor, if I where designing a cheap, low voltage, small, cool running CPU thats main function would be a contact list, scheduling, note taking, and silly games I would kill or cripple the FPU portion... then again if I were designing chips people would probably prefer a small notepad and pencil to a PDA. ~Zilch
Gillette? The Razor people? Scrud! Alien Technology should sell them the receiver units real cheap and then charge $5.00 for those $.10 tags! I sure wish those Mach 3 Ultras weren't so expensive, everything else seems like broken glass bits on the end of a stick now :(
~Zilch