Yes, he should. Because the original gallon that was stolen would have been sold to someone else, thus causing the the store a loss of the cost of that gallon of milk. The store probably has to sell 25 gallons of milk to cover the cost of the one gallon, so the two friends of the perpetrator does not make up for the loss, and further, the store is under no obligation to account for any gain that may have been done by the stealing of the milk.
It's even worse than this. The subjects don't even have to be under age. They just have to look underage (whatever that means).
It's even worse than this. The subjects don't even have to exist. Drawings of human beings, whether based on an existing person or not, who appear to be under the age of 18 can also be considered child pornography.
So if a guy walks into a store and steals a gallon of milk, and then two of his friends see his gallon of milk and decide to go buy some from your store, then should the shoplifter be prosecuted?
The law was still broken, regardless of the net benefit to the shop owner.
The big 3 would do a lot better if they would stop paying people the same amount to turn screws as most tech companies do for an IT director with a master's degree. When the GM plant closed near us, there were people who continued to get paid close to $80k a year to do nothing or go to career training for another line of work. Meanwhile, I barely get that for an engineering degree and 20 years of experience. Talk about choosing the wrong line of work. I should have dropped out of high school.
Awesome. My three month old Toyota van only gets 17 MPG average. The sticker said 17/23, and more than half the miles are highway. I remember back in the '80s when you could actually expect to obtain the reported mileage. My '88 MR-2 claimed 26/31 and I would regularly see 32 OVERALL.
Agreed. If this bill was really about the environment, then they would give you a $5,000 voucher if you turn in your used car and buy a new one, but would give you $10,000 if you turned in your old car and DID NOT buy a new one.
That sounds like Netzero. They started out offering free internet that was ad-supported. Hence the name. Then they discovered they couldn't make money that way, and eventually ended up charging about the same as all the other ISPs. They look pretty stupid calling themselves NetZero now. And when they come on their commercials and say "we started Netzero to provide low cost internet..." I have to restrain myself from arguing with the guy on the ad.
...or at least crankiness. I know that I have gotten snippy with people during or immediately after playing a particularly challenging game, especially if I didn't do well. I have witnessed other members of my family doing the same thing. One of my daughters was getting frustrated with playing Wii sports and every time she made a bad move, she would yell at her sisters, who were just sitting there, not doing anything.
This is not even just a video game thing. I have seen fights break out at basketball games, even Church games! I have seen fans throw bottles, bricks and worse at football games.
It is not just a video game issue. It is games in general which seem to raise emotions high and can end in violence.
I used to spend hours in the storefront of our local Radio Shack playing Flight Simulator. They let me play because people would become interested in the computer and/or the game. I would also write basic programs on their computers to make rain storms complete with lightning, thunder and tornadoes.
I've still got two CoCos in a box in the garage. I'll bet you they'll fire up and work if I plugged them in, too.
The employees at my local Radio Shack were required to have college degrees. Several of them were working there while getting their Master's.
I should point out that the margins in large electronics like TVs is such that ordering 1000 doesn't get you a much better deal than ordering one. The big national chains can get a slightly better unit cost than the mom and pop, but not by a large margin. The biggest hindrance to the mom and pop is the higher salaries. Then you have lower volume of customers, more cost per square foot for retail space, etc.
Wow, synchronicity. I was looking for an IDE to SATA adaptor yesterday. I tried Best Buy and got basically the response above, until a third salesperson was able to direct me to the SATA cables, of which there were no power adaptors. I mean, I bought the SATA drive there, you would think they would stock the likely accessories needed. Helpfully, the salesperson recommended a small area computer shop that I had previously not been aware of. They were closed at that time, so I went to Radio Shack, where the salesperson was even more clueless than the BB ones. Today, I went and picked one up effortlessly from the local computer store recommended by the semi-clued BB salesman.
I went when the prices were marked as "Everything 40-60% off". They still had quite a lot of merchandise, including some large TVs which I happened to be in the market for. Unfortunately, at 40-60% off, they were still about 25% higher than the competition. I decided to wait, and sure enough a few weeks later they had it up to 80-90% off everything. I went in and everything was gone. Apparently the sheeple are happy to pay 25% more than they should for the pleasure of "saving" 70%.
Good car analogy, at least in the U.S. Because here in the U.S. many people are probably unaware that there is an alternative to automatic transmissions given that 95% or better of cars out there are automatics. So, if this woman ordered a car, and received a car with a manual transmission and couldn't get it to work, yes I think she has a legitimate complaint. Because of the rarity of manual transmissions, and linux home users, manufacturers need to be careful to make sure that people are aware of what they are getting.
Give me a break. The average person doesn't know what an OS is, so wouldn't be any more surprised finding the word Ubuntu in there than they would to find the word SATA. To the masses, a PC is a PC, and they probably expect when ordering something from Dell that it will be ready for them to plug in and it works. Why? Because that is the way it has been for 20 years. Now, we have manufacturers shipping linux on PCs to unsuspecting customers and not surprisingly, they can't figure out how to make it work. I personally don't think we need everyone who is going to have a PC be smart enough to run linux. Maybe linux needs to be simple enough that anybody that owns a PC can use it. But that is not necessary, because we have Windows.
Mod parent up, "under god" WAS added in the 50's and it is a blatant violation of the seperation of church and state.
Ok, then when was separation of Church and State added to the constitution? I can't find it in there anywhere. Perhaps you think the part where they say that congress can't make any law establishing a State religion somehow means separation of Church and State.
Besides, what is this coming out of left field blaming Religion for this bill? Who says it was proposed by religious people? Most of the people in my office are Christians, and most of them use profanity regularly. Of course my work environment has driven several to start smoking, so it is pretty stressful.
Anyway, perhaps it was just a bunch of stuffy old guys who are sick and tired of hearing f-bombs every other word from people who are so inarticulate that they can't get their point across without resorting to profanity. Now, don't think I'm in favor of the bill. I think it should be unnecessary, just as a law against yelling "fire" in a theater should be unnecessary. People should just know better.
TEN days, which arse-backwards African country are you living in?
It's a third world country called the United States. I only have 20 years of experience, so I only get 10 days a year. But it doesn't matter if they gave me 100. As a former manager put it: "You can have as many vacation days as you can get away with." This turns out to be less than 10 per year.
Agreed. In my next house, I'm leaving the gas dryer behind for somebody else to deal with. Gas costs more than electric and it takes twice as long to get the clothes still-not-quite-dry. If I knew then what I know now, I would never have bought a gas dryer.
Luckily for me I live in opposite land of wherever you live, because where I live natural gas is much cheaper than electricity, and gas dryers take half as long as electric dryers to get the clothes dry.
Of course, the drawback to living in opposite land to everyone else is that my CFL bulbs don't last as long as regular incandescents and don't seem to save any discernable amount on my electric bill.
when they started requiring us to use or lose our vacation every year rather than carrying it over
This is where we need to introduce new laws. Companys can not entice you to work there by offering vacation, and then not allow one of the following options 1) take a vacation 2) pay you for the time or 3) roll it over. I have only two weeks of vacation a year, but it is pretty well impossible to take that much vacation time given that I am in operations, and there are some problems that only I can fix and those problems are not always respectful of vacation. I managed a week last year, and my company is starting to cast an eye toward not allowing rollovers. Well, they had better pay me for it or find a way to allow me to take it, because otherwise they are in violation of their employment offer.
any money you earn over that $102,000 up to $164,550 is being effectively taxed at 6.2% less than the $78,850 to $102,000 earned
Which is why I encourage my employer to pay me more than $102,000. Not only do I get taxed less, but so does my employer. Alas, they didn't see the logic in my argument, nor in the charts which showed the average person with my experience in my position earning $120k in my locale.
To be strictly literal, the original question asked "did you ever TELL a lie". Which you would still have to answer Yes if you consider answering "how are you" with "fine" as a lie, then everybody lies.
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Yes, he should. Because the original gallon that was stolen would have been sold to someone else, thus causing the the store a loss of the cost of that gallon of milk. The store probably has to sell 25 gallons of milk to cover the cost of the one gallon, so the two friends of the perpetrator does not make up for the loss, and further, the store is under no obligation to account for any gain that may have been done by the stealing of the milk.
Yes, and the incidence of rape in those countries compared to western countries shows that head to toe covering is not an inhibitor.
It's even worse than this. The subjects don't even have to be under age. They just have to look underage (whatever that means).
It's even worse than this. The subjects don't even have to exist. Drawings of human beings, whether based on an existing person or not, who appear to be under the age of 18 can also be considered child pornography.
So if a guy walks into a store and steals a gallon of milk, and then two of his friends see his gallon of milk and decide to go buy some from your store, then should the shoplifter be prosecuted?
The law was still broken, regardless of the net benefit to the shop owner.
It has to be a running vehicle. A typical redneck vehicle not only doesn't run, but doesn't even have tires. Only redneck houses have tires.
Ah, but with the voucher system in place, the price of a $100 junker will rise up so close to $1200, that it wouldn't be worthwhile to do the deal.
The big 3 would do a lot better if they would stop paying people the same amount to turn screws as most tech companies do for an IT director with a master's degree. When the GM plant closed near us, there were people who continued to get paid close to $80k a year to do nothing or go to career training for another line of work. Meanwhile, I barely get that for an engineering degree and 20 years of experience. Talk about choosing the wrong line of work. I should have dropped out of high school.
Awesome. My three month old Toyota van only gets 17 MPG average. The sticker said 17/23, and more than half the miles are highway. I remember back in the '80s when you could actually expect to obtain the reported mileage. My '88 MR-2 claimed 26/31 and I would regularly see 32 OVERALL.
Agreed. If this bill was really about the environment, then they would give you a $5,000 voucher if you turn in your used car and buy a new one, but would give you $10,000 if you turned in your old car and DID NOT buy a new one.
That sounds like Netzero. They started out offering free internet that was ad-supported. Hence the name. Then they discovered they couldn't make money that way, and eventually ended up charging about the same as all the other ISPs. They look pretty stupid calling themselves NetZero now. And when they come on their commercials and say "we started Netzero to provide low cost internet..." I have to restrain myself from arguing with the guy on the ad.
...or at least crankiness. I know that I have gotten snippy with people during or immediately after playing a particularly challenging game, especially if I didn't do well. I have witnessed other members of my family doing the same thing. One of my daughters was getting frustrated with playing Wii sports and every time she made a bad move, she would yell at her sisters, who were just sitting there, not doing anything.
This is not even just a video game thing. I have seen fights break out at basketball games, even Church games! I have seen fans throw bottles, bricks and worse at football games.
It is not just a video game issue. It is games in general which seem to raise emotions high and can end in violence.
I used to spend hours in the storefront of our local Radio Shack playing Flight Simulator. They let me play because people would become interested in the computer and/or the game. I would also write basic programs on their computers to make rain storms complete with lightning, thunder and tornadoes.
I've still got two CoCos in a box in the garage. I'll bet you they'll fire up and work if I plugged them in, too.
The employees at my local Radio Shack were required to have college degrees. Several of them were working there while getting their Master's.
I should point out that the margins in large electronics like TVs is such that ordering 1000 doesn't get you a much better deal than ordering one. The big national chains can get a slightly better unit cost than the mom and pop, but not by a large margin. The biggest hindrance to the mom and pop is the higher salaries. Then you have lower volume of customers, more cost per square foot for retail space, etc.
Wow, synchronicity. I was looking for an IDE to SATA adaptor yesterday. I tried Best Buy and got basically the response above, until a third salesperson was able to direct me to the SATA cables, of which there were no power adaptors. I mean, I bought the SATA drive there, you would think they would stock the likely accessories needed. Helpfully, the salesperson recommended a small area computer shop that I had previously not been aware of. They were closed at that time, so I went to Radio Shack, where the salesperson was even more clueless than the BB ones. Today, I went and picked one up effortlessly from the local computer store recommended by the semi-clued BB salesman.
I went when the prices were marked as "Everything 40-60% off". They still had quite a lot of merchandise, including some large TVs which I happened to be in the market for. Unfortunately, at 40-60% off, they were still about 25% higher than the competition. I decided to wait, and sure enough a few weeks later they had it up to 80-90% off everything. I went in and everything was gone. Apparently the sheeple are happy to pay 25% more than they should for the pleasure of "saving" 70%.
Good car analogy, at least in the U.S. Because here in the U.S. many people are probably unaware that there is an alternative to automatic transmissions given that 95% or better of cars out there are automatics. So, if this woman ordered a car, and received a car with a manual transmission and couldn't get it to work, yes I think she has a legitimate complaint. Because of the rarity of manual transmissions, and linux home users, manufacturers need to be careful to make sure that people are aware of what they are getting.
Give me a break. The average person doesn't know what an OS is, so wouldn't be any more surprised finding the word Ubuntu in there than they would to find the word SATA. To the masses, a PC is a PC, and they probably expect when ordering something from Dell that it will be ready for them to plug in and it works. Why? Because that is the way it has been for 20 years. Now, we have manufacturers shipping linux on PCs to unsuspecting customers and not surprisingly, they can't figure out how to make it work. I personally don't think we need everyone who is going to have a PC be smart enough to run linux. Maybe linux needs to be simple enough that anybody that owns a PC can use it. But that is not necessary, because we have Windows.
Mod parent up, "under god" WAS added in the 50's and it is a blatant violation of the seperation of church and state.
Ok, then when was separation of Church and State added to the constitution? I can't find it in there anywhere. Perhaps you think the part where they say that congress can't make any law establishing a State religion somehow means separation of Church and State.
Besides, what is this coming out of left field blaming Religion for this bill? Who says it was proposed by religious people? Most of the people in my office are Christians, and most of them use profanity regularly. Of course my work environment has driven several to start smoking, so it is pretty stressful.
Anyway, perhaps it was just a bunch of stuffy old guys who are sick and tired of hearing f-bombs every other word from people who are so inarticulate that they can't get their point across without resorting to profanity. Now, don't think I'm in favor of the bill. I think it should be unnecessary, just as a law against yelling "fire" in a theater should be unnecessary. People should just know better.
...Same as the old boss.
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TEN days, which arse-backwards African country are you living in?
It's a third world country called the United States. I only have 20 years of experience, so I only get 10 days a year. But it doesn't matter if they gave me 100. As a former manager put it: "You can have as many vacation days as you can get away with." This turns out to be less than 10 per year.
Agreed. In my next house, I'm leaving the gas dryer behind for somebody else to deal with. Gas costs more than electric and it takes twice as long to get the clothes still-not-quite-dry. If I knew then what I know now, I would never have bought a gas dryer.
Luckily for me I live in opposite land of wherever you live, because where I live natural gas is much cheaper than electricity, and gas dryers take half as long as electric dryers to get the clothes dry.
Of course, the drawback to living in opposite land to everyone else is that my CFL bulbs don't last as long as regular incandescents and don't seem to save any discernable amount on my electric bill.
when they started requiring us to use or lose our vacation every year rather than carrying it over
This is where we need to introduce new laws. Companys can not entice you to work there by offering vacation, and then not allow one of the following options 1) take a vacation 2) pay you for the time or 3) roll it over. I have only two weeks of vacation a year, but it is pretty well impossible to take that much vacation time given that I am in operations, and there are some problems that only I can fix and those problems are not always respectful of vacation. I managed a week last year, and my company is starting to cast an eye toward not allowing rollovers. Well, they had better pay me for it or find a way to allow me to take it, because otherwise they are in violation of their employment offer.
any money you earn over that $102,000 up to $164,550 is being effectively taxed at 6.2% less than the $78,850 to $102,000 earned
Which is why I encourage my employer to pay me more than $102,000. Not only do I get taxed less, but so does my employer. Alas, they didn't see the logic in my argument, nor in the charts which showed the average person with my experience in my position earning $120k in my locale.
A test is cold, impersonal and degrading. An interview implies they at least care enough about you to show up.
To be strictly literal, the original question asked "did you ever TELL a lie". Which you would still have to answer Yes if you consider answering "how are you" with "fine" as a lie, then everybody lies.