I know it's no $20-$30k, but I wouldn't be upset over an unlocked smartphone. It's a hell of a lot better than many past employers gave me.
I would be upset. Especially since they are reportedly not allowed to sell it. I mean, they work at Google, so isn't it likely that most of them already have a phone, perhaps even a gphone, and are probably already tied into a contract. So the phone is at best useless to most of them and at worst, an additional monthly cost.
As a manager and an employee I find the idea of foisting your own wares on your employees as some sort of "gift" to be in extremely poor taste, unless the employer in question is the Federal mint.
You're not paying attention to GGP. The Total Compensation for the employee includes year end bonuses. If those go away, then Google is essentially telling the employee "for your Christmas bonus, we decided to pay you $40k less than last year. Merry Christmas."
Of course, my heart bleeds for them. My Christmas bonus this year was two candy bars in a wrapper customized with my companies name, and a coffee mug also emblazened with the same.
Of course, I'm not complaining. This is up from the nothing they gave us last year.
What is a "Censorship Minister"? Is there a "Ministry of Censorship" in Australia??
Of course not. The submitter is just manipulating your opinion by using an almost plausible sounding title to slant you toward the submitters opinion. Stephen Conroy is actually minister of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy.
You're right. Jail time is too severe. Just make the kids pay their "prank victim" five or six thousand dollars a year for the next 7 years to make up for increased insurance premiums, lost time due to court appearances and so forth, harassment from cops due to prior records and so forth.
It's interesting though that penalties are apparently tied to the car in the us, not the driver.
Yep. I once gave a car to my sister, and she got multiple parking tickets in a nearby town. When I went to apply for a mortgage, they said they would only approve me if I paid my unpaid parking tickets. Apparently, she never registered it in her name, so the tickets became my responsibility.
I've often thought if I got one of these tickets I would take it to court and ask for the right to see my accuser.
In my municipality, they charge you $55 to take your case before a judge. So when or lose, you lose.
I use only a single 20" monitor when developing on Solaris, but I need two when developing for windows. I can't put my finger on it, but somehow in Unix you can manage to get enough information at your fingertips just by opening three or four shell windows, but in Windows, that same amount of information takes much more screen space to display.
Of course, the phone company isn't liable for this...HUB is.
Nope. The person who ran up the charge is responsible. If he can't be found, then just spread the cost amongst all the thief that we HAVE caught.
If someone physically broke into HUB computer's offices, and made $52,000 of phone calls from someone's desk, would the phone company be responsible?
You are absolutely correct. I once had a 1-900 sports line bill me on my phone bill ( I don't care for sports). I called the phone company and told them that I had not made the call. They said their records indicated that I had. I told them their records were wrong. They said computers don't make mistakes. After I stopped laughing, I asked them if someone broke into my house and called the number, if I would be responsible. They said "Absolutely". I told them I would be paying all of my phone bill except the charge which I had not made. They said that would be fine, and when they did not receive the full amount that they would go ahead and cut off my line and report the defaulted amount to the credit companies and a collection agency.
And yet when it is the monopoly's fault that something went wrong, they still bill the customer. The Church across the street is undergoing construction, and the gas company had to upgrade the gas pipe in the area to accommodate. They shut off our gas with no warning, then posted a note giving us a number to call to get the gas back on. I called the number and they gave me a day three days in the future when they would come by to turn it on and I needed to be home between 8 and 5. They didn't show. I called them every 10 minutes between then and 7 (when their phone operators stopped answering) and got various responses indicating first that he was on his way, then later that he had never been on his way and that he was at another work site. And finally, just before 7, they said he would be there in ten minutes. At about 8:40, he came by to turn it on. Then they found that their meter had not been working properly and was underreporting my usage. They put in a new meter. On my next bill, it was about 10 times the normal amount because they estimated my usage that their meter failed to account for. One week later, they cut my gas off again, and left a note again, which I found at about 6 PM when I got home from work. I had plans to go out of town for the weekend. I called them up and said they needed to get their by 7 as I was going out of town. They said they were unable to do that, but would be happy to schedule someone to come out on Monday. I replied that I was going camping and would very much like to come back and have a warm shower before going to work on Monday. They said there was nothing I could do. I asked them if there was another gas company that they could put me in contact with (of course there is not). So I had to stay home from work AGAIN on that Monday, and again they showed up after 5 PM, so I could have gone in to work. As mentioned before, despite having two interruptions to my gas service, lasting approximately 20% of the month, my normal monthly "connection" fee was exactly the same, and my "usage" fee was 10 times normal.
Interestingly, the next month, it was back to it's normal rate that it was before the "broken" meter was replaced. I think it was not really broken at all, but they just believed that I could not use that small amount of gas that I do.
Another time, I had just moved to a small town. I selected AT&T as my long distance carrier. I selected a plan that was $0.10 a minute with no monthly fee and an international plan that was something like $0.16 a minute with a $4 a month fee. The next month, I got a bill for about $500, with long distance charges of $0.76 a minute and over $2 a minute for international calls. I called to inquire about this and they told me that I did not have a calling plan at all. I told them the specific name of the plan that I had been sold. They eventually found that I had requested that plan, but that it was not valid for my area, so rather than call and notify me, they just defaulted me to no plan at all. I asked them what they were going to do about the charges, and they said that all they could do was put me on this other plan, which was more expensive, and had more monthly fees and they would graciously split the difference between what I owed and what I would have owed if I had been using this new plan. I told them that what they needed to do was to go ahead and put me on the plan that I had been sold and charge me according to the rates I had been quoted. But they said they could not do that. I as a customer was responsible for their employees mistake.
Now, long distance telephone service was not a monopoly, so I could go to another carrier, however, if I didn't pay them, my phone service would be cut off, because it was billed through my local phone company, and they don't care whether you didn't pay the local or didn't pay the long distance. Either way, you didn't pay, so you are cut off.
Or the town barber is always the one with the worst haircut.
As the owner of a salon, I can vouch for this. But I can assure you it is for different reasons. The stylists pay quite a lot of attention to their hair, but it still looks horrible. I'm really surprised their customers don't run away in fear that the stylist will make them look like that too.
At least phone companies do not go out of there way to aid and abet the thieves. The cell phone companies apparently sell lists of valid phone numbers to scammer companies that slam you with text messages and automatically sign you up for daily quotes at $6 per day and that sort of thing. The cell phone companies get to keep about 1/3 of this money, so they encourage the scammers to do this.
So shoot them. I am sick of living in a society where law abiding citizens have to pay an ever higher cost in securing their homes, autos, businesses, servers, PBX systems, what have you, while low life scum out there steals from us. When something goes wrong, the business gets blamed for not having enough security on their system. That is just wrong. The person who performed the illegal act is the only one who did something wrong. The business shouldn't HAVE to secure their PBX, because no one worthy of participating in our society would ever think of breaking in and using their phone system. I shouldn't HAVE to have an alarm system on my house, because no one worthy of living in our society would ever think of breaking in and stealing the stuff that I have had to work and slave for. When things get stolen, we blame the victim for not having enough security, and then if we do happen to catch a thief, we just put them in prison for a few years, again, at law-abiding society's expense, and then let them out to steal again. We need a system where the criminals have to pay for the police service, theft insurance, IT security personnel and firewall equipment, alarm systems, door locks, and anything else that is made necessary by the existence of thieves. Since it is usually impossible to collect the money that thieves have stolen, this is impossible. So just shoot them.
I would imagine that the sharks, like me, will go out of their way to avoid the Christmas music. There is one station where I live that switches to 24/7 Christmas music starting before Thanksgiving. I can't listen to it for a full 6 weeks.
Of course, I will also avoid Christmas parties with anyone but friends and family, and yes we have the token mid 40's slightly frumpy woman at work who likes to put up all kinds of decorations and try to get us to play "Dirty Santa".
Fortunately, our Christmas party was offsite this year, and I just stayed at the office and worked.
Like most people, I think taxes for things I approve of are great, while taxes for things I don't approve of are awful. Of course, I am a hypocrite. But then so is everybody else.
Next you'll be saying to drink it from a tap.
I drink water from a tap, what's wrong with that, other than it doesn't support the bottled water companies, the plastics companies, the oil companies and the disposal companies?
Tap water in most of the U.S. is at least as safe to drink as bottled water, and is several thousand times cheaper, and doesn't leave as much of an environmental footprint.
What if the tax money was being used to torture puppies? Would it be okay to evade that?
Apparently not. Part of my tax money is used to kill babies, but I still have to pay it. I'm sure that tax money is used for a lot of things that we disagree with, but we are still required to pay them.
Hopefully you'll be rich enough to make a better looking Tornado Intercept Vehicle (TIV) than the one they use. The TIV II was better looking, but kept breaking. The first TIV looks like something I would have made.
Funny how a society that largely doesn't believe in God will suffer an insurance company to not pay because of "act of God". But that having been said, just about any act outside of a act of human, is an act of God, and insurance still covers it. Lightning strikes, ice storms, tornado, hurricane, flood, what-have-you are all covered. Granted in some places, certain types of insurance are extra cost, but that is because the insured is in the sort of place where they are exceedingly likely to be hit by such a catastrophe.
I would expect the insurance company to pay for this, though, sadly, it may take a legal battle which will serve to make the lawyers richer, the insurance company poorer than if they had just paid the claim, and possibly ruin the owner of the warehouse.
Sorry mate, but you're wrong. Statistics show that teens are several times more likely to be hurt or killed in an accident while just 'hanging out' than when they are coming back from work or an event. Statistics trumps opinion.
Now, I'm no big city nuclear engineer, but after you've gone and extracted a whole bunch of energy from the fuel, wouldn't it be LESS dangerous than it was whenever you dug it up out of the ground? If you put it back where you found it, haven't you actually improved the safety of that location by extracting a lot of the radiation out of it?
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I know it's no $20-$30k, but I wouldn't be upset over an unlocked smartphone. It's a hell of a lot better than many past employers gave me.
I would be upset. Especially since they are reportedly not allowed to sell it. I mean, they work at Google, so isn't it likely that most of them already have a phone, perhaps even a gphone, and are probably already tied into a contract. So the phone is at best useless to most of them and at worst, an additional monthly cost.
As a manager and an employee I find the idea of foisting your own wares on your employees as some sort of "gift" to be in extremely poor taste, unless the employer in question is the Federal mint.
You're not paying attention to GGP. The Total Compensation for the employee includes year end bonuses. If those go away, then Google is essentially telling the employee "for your Christmas bonus, we decided to pay you $40k less than last year. Merry Christmas."
Of course, my heart bleeds for them. My Christmas bonus this year was two candy bars in a wrapper customized with my companies name, and a coffee mug also emblazened with the same.
Of course, I'm not complaining. This is up from the nothing they gave us last year.
What is a "Censorship Minister"? Is there a "Ministry of Censorship" in Australia??
Of course not. The submitter is just manipulating your opinion by using an almost plausible sounding title to slant you toward the submitters opinion. Stephen Conroy is actually minister of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy.
You're right. Jail time is too severe. Just make the kids pay their "prank victim" five or six thousand dollars a year for the next 7 years to make up for increased insurance premiums, lost time due to court appearances and so forth, harassment from cops due to prior records and so forth.
It's interesting though that penalties are apparently tied to the car in the us, not the driver.
Yep. I once gave a car to my sister, and she got multiple parking tickets in a nearby town. When I went to apply for a mortgage, they said they would only approve me if I paid my unpaid parking tickets. Apparently, she never registered it in her name, so the tickets became my responsibility.
I've often thought if I got one of these tickets I would take it to court and ask for the right to see my accuser.
In my municipality, they charge you $55 to take your case before a judge. So when or lose, you lose.
I use only a single 20" monitor when developing on Solaris, but I need two when developing for windows. I can't put my finger on it, but somehow in Unix you can manage to get enough information at your fingertips just by opening three or four shell windows, but in Windows, that same amount of information takes much more screen space to display.
No, I want them to not make overseas calls on other peoples phone so I don't have to shoot them.
Of course, the phone company isn't liable for this...HUB is.
Nope. The person who ran up the charge is responsible. If he can't be found, then just spread the cost amongst all the thief that we HAVE caught.
If someone physically broke into HUB computer's offices, and made $52,000 of phone calls from someone's desk, would the phone company be responsible?
You are absolutely correct. I once had a 1-900 sports line bill me on my phone bill ( I don't care for sports). I called the phone company and told them that I had not made the call. They said their records indicated that I had. I told them their records were wrong. They said computers don't make mistakes. After I stopped laughing, I asked them if someone broke into my house and called the number, if I would be responsible. They said "Absolutely". I told them I would be paying all of my phone bill except the charge which I had not made. They said that would be fine, and when they did not receive the full amount that they would go ahead and cut off my line and report the defaulted amount to the credit companies and a collection agency.
How much time do you spend monitoring what is going on your PBX?
And yet when it is the monopoly's fault that something went wrong, they still bill the customer. The Church across the street is undergoing construction, and the gas company had to upgrade the gas pipe in the area to accommodate. They shut off our gas with no warning, then posted a note giving us a number to call to get the gas back on. I called the number and they gave me a day three days in the future when they would come by to turn it on and I needed to be home between 8 and 5. They didn't show. I called them every 10 minutes between then and 7 (when their phone operators stopped answering) and got various responses indicating first that he was on his way, then later that he had never been on his way and that he was at another work site. And finally, just before 7, they said he would be there in ten minutes. At about 8:40, he came by to turn it on. Then they found that their meter had not been working properly and was underreporting my usage. They put in a new meter. On my next bill, it was about 10 times the normal amount because they estimated my usage that their meter failed to account for. One week later, they cut my gas off again, and left a note again, which I found at about 6 PM when I got home from work. I had plans to go out of town for the weekend. I called them up and said they needed to get their by 7 as I was going out of town. They said they were unable to do that, but would be happy to schedule someone to come out on Monday. I replied that I was going camping and would very much like to come back and have a warm shower before going to work on Monday. They said there was nothing I could do. I asked them if there was another gas company that they could put me in contact with (of course there is not). So I had to stay home from work AGAIN on that Monday, and again they showed up after 5 PM, so I could have gone in to work. As mentioned before, despite having two interruptions to my gas service, lasting approximately 20% of the month, my normal monthly "connection" fee was exactly the same, and my "usage" fee was 10 times normal.
Interestingly, the next month, it was back to it's normal rate that it was before the "broken" meter was replaced. I think it was not really broken at all, but they just believed that I could not use that small amount of gas that I do.
Another time, I had just moved to a small town. I selected AT&T as my long distance carrier. I selected a plan that was $0.10 a minute with no monthly fee and an international plan that was something like $0.16 a minute with a $4 a month fee. The next month, I got a bill for about $500, with long distance charges of $0.76 a minute and over $2 a minute for international calls. I called to inquire about this and they told me that I did not have a calling plan at all. I told them the specific name of the plan that I had been sold. They eventually found that I had requested that plan, but that it was not valid for my area, so rather than call and notify me, they just defaulted me to no plan at all. I asked them what they were going to do about the charges, and they said that all they could do was put me on this other plan, which was more expensive, and had more monthly fees and they would graciously split the difference between what I owed and what I would have owed if I had been using this new plan. I told them that what they needed to do was to go ahead and put me on the plan that I had been sold and charge me according to the rates I had been quoted. But they said they could not do that. I as a customer was responsible for their employees mistake.
Now, long distance telephone service was not a monopoly, so I could go to another carrier, however, if I didn't pay them, my phone service would be cut off, because it was billed through my local phone company, and they don't care whether you didn't pay the local or didn't pay the long distance. Either way, you didn't pay, so you are cut off.
Or the town barber is always the one with the worst haircut.
As the owner of a salon, I can vouch for this. But I can assure you it is for different reasons. The stylists pay quite a lot of attention to their hair, but it still looks horrible. I'm really surprised their customers don't run away in fear that the stylist will make them look like that too.
At least phone companies do not go out of there way to aid and abet the thieves. The cell phone companies apparently sell lists of valid phone numbers to scammer companies that slam you with text messages and automatically sign you up for daily quotes at $6 per day and that sort of thing. The cell phone companies get to keep about 1/3 of this money, so they encourage the scammers to do this.
So shoot them. I am sick of living in a society where law abiding citizens have to pay an ever higher cost in securing their homes, autos, businesses, servers, PBX systems, what have you, while low life scum out there steals from us. When something goes wrong, the business gets blamed for not having enough security on their system. That is just wrong. The person who performed the illegal act is the only one who did something wrong. The business shouldn't HAVE to secure their PBX, because no one worthy of participating in our society would ever think of breaking in and using their phone system. I shouldn't HAVE to have an alarm system on my house, because no one worthy of living in our society would ever think of breaking in and stealing the stuff that I have had to work and slave for. When things get stolen, we blame the victim for not having enough security, and then if we do happen to catch a thief, we just put them in prison for a few years, again, at law-abiding society's expense, and then let them out to steal again. We need a system where the criminals have to pay for the police service, theft insurance, IT security personnel and firewall equipment, alarm systems, door locks, and anything else that is made necessary by the existence of thieves. Since it is usually impossible to collect the money that thieves have stolen, this is impossible. So just shoot them.
I would imagine that the sharks, like me, will go out of their way to avoid the Christmas music. There is one station where I live that switches to 24/7 Christmas music starting before Thanksgiving. I can't listen to it for a full 6 weeks.
Of course, I will also avoid Christmas parties with anyone but friends and family, and yes we have the token mid 40's slightly frumpy woman at work who likes to put up all kinds of decorations and try to get us to play "Dirty Santa".
Fortunately, our Christmas party was offsite this year, and I just stayed at the office and worked.
Like most people, I think taxes for things I approve of are great, while taxes for things I don't approve of are awful. Of course, I am a hypocrite. But then so is everybody else.
Next you'll be saying to drink it from a tap.
I drink water from a tap, what's wrong with that, other than it doesn't support the bottled water companies, the plastics companies, the oil companies and the disposal companies?
Tap water in most of the U.S. is at least as safe to drink as bottled water, and is several thousand times cheaper, and doesn't leave as much of an environmental footprint.
My guess is that would lead to everyone sitting at home waiting for their $30k check.
What if the tax money was being used to torture puppies? Would it be okay to evade that?
Apparently not. Part of my tax money is used to kill babies, but I still have to pay it. I'm sure that tax money is used for a lot of things that we disagree with, but we are still required to pay them.
Hopefully you'll be rich enough to make a better looking Tornado Intercept Vehicle (TIV) than the one they use. The TIV II was better looking, but kept breaking. The first TIV looks like something I would have made.
Odd. Frozen Bubble seems to bear a striking resemblance to Puzzle Bobble aka Bust-A-Move.
Funny how a society that largely doesn't believe in God will suffer an insurance company to not pay because of "act of God". But that having been said, just about any act outside of a act of human, is an act of God, and insurance still covers it. Lightning strikes, ice storms, tornado, hurricane, flood, what-have-you are all covered. Granted in some places, certain types of insurance are extra cost, but that is because the insured is in the sort of place where they are exceedingly likely to be hit by such a catastrophe.
I would expect the insurance company to pay for this, though, sadly, it may take a legal battle which will serve to make the lawyers richer, the insurance company poorer than if they had just paid the claim, and possibly ruin the owner of the warehouse.
Sorry mate, but you're wrong. Statistics show that teens are several times more likely to be hurt or killed in an accident while just 'hanging out' than when they are coming back from work or an event. Statistics trumps opinion.
Now, I'm no big city nuclear engineer, but after you've gone and extracted a whole bunch of energy from the fuel, wouldn't it be LESS dangerous than it was whenever you dug it up out of the ground? If you put it back where you found it, haven't you actually improved the safety of that location by extracting a lot of the radiation out of it?