I am a touch typist and type around 70-90 WPM on a qwerty keyboard. I hadn't improved in years (even though I trained using typing programs). So I figured I'd give Dvorak a try.
After about 6 weeks I was up to around 75 WPM on Dvorak, but I stopped improving after that. I kept at it for another month or two, but never got back to my old qwerty speed.
Furthermore, the worst thing was that I started to get RSI like symptoms in my right hand from the Dvorak setup, something which I never ever had before, even with very extended periods of very intensive qwerty keyboard usage. So I switched back. Fortunately it took hardly any effort to get back to my old speed and the RSI symptoms disappeared.
If you really want to share a file, just go buy the CD, rip it, and put it online.
Futhermore I seriously doubt most people who buy music at the iTunes store 1) are going to know that this software exists 2) are going to care that this software exists 3) are going to run this software so they can share their music
Finally, Apple could easily (and might already) use digital watermarking to add personal information to the music file, which is a lot harder to remove (no I did not say impossible).
Basically, if they can make sharing iTunes files a bigger hassle than buying/ripping a physical CD and publishing that, the DRM is still effective.
That said, this software does matter for iTunes users. If you lose your iPod or your machine gets p4wned and your files get shared without you knowing, at least this software can make sure your name is not in the files in an easily readable format anymore.
What is the point of an observer with a black box voting machine?
Will the observer get to see the source? Will the observer understand the source? Can the observer verify that the specified source is actually running on the voting machine? How will the observer see if the computer malfunctions in any way causing incorrect counts? Checking the seals is pretty pointless as well, even assuming they are unforgeable and unbreakable, how do we know nobody who places the seals was bribed and changes were made before the seal was placed?
With proper elections the observer can actually OBSERVE stuff:
beforehand: - is the box empty when the elections start - is it a normal, intact box?
while voting is taking place: - is the person on the voting list? - is the person who he/she claims to be? - is everybody putting exactly one ballot into the box?
while counting ON SITE: - is every ballot being counted? - is the box empty when counting starts? (i.e., is EVERY ballot being counted) - are the counters counting properly?
after counting: - are all the ballots put back into the box? - is the box properly sealed? - are the correct counts made public?
I like to decide things based on facts and practical considerations. Pros and cons. It makes for better decisions. Try it out sometime.
I don't see any request anywhere in your reply. Instead I see sarcasm, and lots of it. Nor do I see much reason and thought in your posts either. Frankly I think you are rather arrogant and a troll. This discussion (actually you can hardly call it that) is completely pointless with you. I don't know why I'm still bothering to write this reply, but it is definately my last.
I still thing the scope of for example Google is much larger than an insurance company or bank or hospital. For one, if I had to think about which information was the most personal to me out of for example financial records, medical files, or insurance claims versus my google search history, my email history, and my chat history, then for me it's most certainly the last three.
Personally I always delete cookies at the end of every browser session, I don't use gmail, and I tell google to explicitly not store my Google Talk logs. However I can't hide my IP address and short of not using Google they have a lot of information on me. To make matters even worse, I'm not even an American citizen, I live in the Netherlands. I think the privacy issues are very real and very urgent, and I don't like governments just subpoenaing all sorts stuff like this.
Finally, yes I think it's scary. And you can go right ahead and be all nice and optimistic about everything and hope that you can do something to change the way it is. But as far as I can see the reality is very clearly not so optimistic. More and more information about individuals is becoming available to certain people and privacy is definately being lost. I don't think that I'm being very pessimistic when I say that some parts of modern society have alarming parallels to the society of George Orwell's 1984.
Anyway, hope you guys stick up for your rights and do something about it, I can't help ya!
As far as I can see, the internet actually *DID* change that; at least in scope. Instead of the private information of one targetted individual being requested, suddenly private information of an enormous number of people is requested. And instead of the targetted individual receiving the subpoena it's a company; the many indirectly targetted individuals will never know what information about them specifically is handed over.
I don't know if the law was ever intended to be used in this way, but either way it's scary...
I look at a hard drive like most people look at a roll of toilet paper. I use it, it serves its purpose, it gets discarded. The data on it, however, is nearly sacred, and I take every precaution I can afford to protect mine.
Analogies are fun. What exactly is analogous to the data on your hard drive in this one?;-)
One time I when I was really really tired late at night I wanted to rm something in/var/log. So I start typing:
rm -rf/
with var/log/... to be next.
Then I figured I didn't need the -rf, that was just a sleepy mistake, so I decided to get rid of it (don't know why), and pressed backspace...
Or so I thought....
It took me about 30 seconds to realize what happened (I was sleepy remember), by that time my machine was thoroughly screwed. Fortunately I still had my user data when I pressed ^C.
Before this, I'd have never believed it to be possible to accidently type rm -rf / as root!
The point is that the spyware/malware can control what you see. That is, every time you are making a transaction, it can do its own stuff in the background and ask you to verify any kind of challenge the bank gives you.
To make my point extra clear:
1) You want to pay $10 to your friend, so your enter this transaction into your webbrowser which is pointed at your banking site. 2) The program which sits in your computer intercepts this transaction (no need to hack SSL, because the interception occurs BEFORE SSL encryption is done) and sends a transaction to your bank for $10000 to acount X. It receives a number from the bank which you must enter into your calculator device. Now it shows you YOUR transaction and the supplied number from the bank. 3) You think everything is hunky dory, enter the number in your calculator device, type your PIN. The device gives you a number to enter on the web page, which you do. 4) The malware uses this number you just typed to complete the $10000 transaction takes the response from the bank and tells you everything went well and you just booked $10 to your friend.
True. However, he will have to do it while the session is active, which makes it quite easy to trace him to the exact cybercafé where it happened. With more passive approaches, a thief could use sniffed codes a while later, making it lots harder to find out which of the many cybercafés from which you browsed your bank accounts when holiday sniffed your numbers.
Actually, all you have to do is install a program that replaces transactions automatically whenever you are using your bank account. This falls into the same category as regular spyware, i.e., it can happen anywhere, anytime, even on your own computer, and the thief does not need to be anywhere near the target computer.
Furthermore, it's easy to replace a transaction and modify the display. For example, the user wishes to make two transactions A, and B. He enters them and then sends them to his bank. Underwater, the malicious program changed these transactions, but does not show the user. It remembers the id's of these transactions and shows the original intended transactions whenever they come up on the user's screen.
This kind of replacement attacks can go on for a long time before they are noticed (until you check your account on an uninfected PC, check the paper trail sent to you by your bank, or get complaints from someone thought claim you paid).
Well, one way to do this is to turn of the "boot from CD" option in the BIOS (which in many cases the spyware could easily do). Or in many cases (especially internet cafe's etc), this is already the case. Then the hard disk is booted (which is infected with spyware/malware) which then sees that the Knoppix (or other CD) is in the CD drive, and then boots it instead of booting the operating system on the hard drive.
I'm not saying this is easy, and I'm not saying the CD solution is not 100 times better than the current state. What I'm saying is that when your computer is compromised, you should be REALLY REALLY careful.
First of all, it is only usable on computers which even boot CD's from the BIOS. If the CD boot option is disabled, it's not much use.
Even worse is when add/spyware gets between the boot process on such a PC. The PC boots the harddisk, the spyware detects the Knoppix Banking CD, then it puts itself in memory and boots the CD. You'll never know, and there will STILL be an untrusted program logging everything you are doing.
Of course this solution is MORE secure than just doing your banking on an untrusted PC under Windows (it takes quite some work to implement the above hack), but in the end, an untrusted PC is an untrusted PC.
Doing anything on an untrusted console is NEVER secure, not even with all these measures. It's very easy for spyware/malware to do a man in the middle attack and insert any number of transactions which it will hide from you by sitting between you, your browser and your bank. You will then happily verify everything with your PIN code, calculator device, whatever, and end up sending money to somebody else. Since the programs are running on the endpoint of the SSL connection, SSL is not going to help you either.
Nope, I was not aware of that. On FreeBSD at least it doesn't, and I'm glad of it. Anyway, it's still third party software, though maybe it's bundled in with the main application. I think it's a bad choice to bundle it (I mean how hard is it to click "Install Plugin" anyway?), because you get exactly this situation: people blaming Firefox for bad design in another application. And I have to agree, if they bundle it, then the blame *is* partly theirs.
Actually it's not Firefox that allows it, but it's a third party plugin you yourself installed.
How the hell can you expect Firefox to block code that you yourself CHOSE to install, code that is provided by a third part??
On the bright side, Firefox DOES have mechanisms for blocking this stuff in this case: just use the adblock plugin.
The only proper way to solve this problem is to complain to MacroMedia, whose software you chose to run even though it allows this kind of "absolutely insane shit", (or even better, deinstall their evil software).
I switched to Dvorak for fun a while back to test it's claims about speed. I type 75 WPM average on a QWERTY keyboard, and wanted to improve on that. I spent about 3 month typing on DVORAK before I hit the speed barrier (wasn't improving anymore), and:
1) I was slower (50 WPM average)
2) It really hurt my right hand, I started getting RSI like symptoms. It made me use my right pinky and ring finger too frequently too quickly in succession. With QUERTY I have the feeling that most of the typing is concentrated on the pointing in middle fingers.
3) Programming was REALLY hopeless... All the frequently used symbols where in the most inconvenient positions.
4) It's a REAL pain when every other computer you sit at has a different keyboard layout from the one you use, and you constantly have to switch it. This is also a pain for other people when you forget to switch it back.
After 4 months I switched back. Took me another month to stop typing the wrong letters in QWERTY but now I'm back at my old speed and my RSI symptoms are gone again...
Greetings, Seb*
P.S.: This is not a scientific test disproving claims about DVORAK keyboards, it's just my personal experience.
They should make file SHARING (thus not reselling) 100% legal. This has many advantages.
First of all, there is nothing anyone can do to stop it. Peer to peer networks will get better and more secure, up to the point that nobody knows what anybody is sharing or downloading.
Secondly it won't stop people from going to movies or buying stuff... I still like going to a movie because it's just a different experience than seeing a movie at home. So is a concert. And sometimes when you really like something very much you just feel better buying it knowing you support the artists that created it. I know I'm not the only one that feels that way. (This way making lousy holywood movies might actually be BAD for business too...)
There are plenty of alternate opportunities to make money. I would love to buy stuff online if I would know it's just good quality with no hassles, and the prices were decent.
Finally, the current business model is outdated... legalizing the sharing of copyrighted material will get the companies looking for new ways to do business NOW, and will give the greatest benefit to the consumers. In the end they'll have to do that anyway (due to the first reason).
And as an extra bonus, the crime rate in almost every country would go down immensly (no more illegal file sharers! YAY!):-)
Servoy requires only the Java JDK on the client side. Install and upgrade of the client are a simple matter of a click. This could be the reason it was slow the first time you started it, because it needs to download the client software into webstart (this is a couple of megabytes). Once this is done however, it starts relatively quickly. Furthermore, even solutions are cached client side, so that startup is actually quite fast.
The statement "Servoy is so slow" is a bit off I think... Considering you don't need to go by 100 computers with a CD-ROM to install or upgrade each and every install Servoy Client, it's actually FASTER than FileMaker in this case. Also you'll find that it performs quite well even over IDSN, thus both the "install" performance and "run time" performance are excellent.
You should also try the download of the Servoy Developer to get a good feeling for how Servoy works. The Java GUI is a bit slower than some native GUI's but it's not a real big difference.
There's a bit of a learning curve when learning Servoy, especially from a FileMaker perspective, but there are a large number of documents and tutorials to help.
Greetings, Sebastiaan van Erk (Part of the Servoy team (just so you know))
This is a totally easy problem to solve. Just ask the ISP to up your limit (or even remove it).
Thus: ISP blocks port 25 outgoing except to their own mailservers, ISP allows 50 mails per hour. If you want to run your own mail server or need to send more mail per hour, you ask your ISP to unblock port 25 or up the limit. ISP complies, and as long as their are no complaints there are no problems.
99% of the poeple won't ask to up the limit because they won't need it. Those who do will generally know a bit more about computers than those who don't and are bit less likely to be spambots. A computer which can only send 50 mails per hour is not a very effective spam bot.
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I am a touch typist and type around 70-90 WPM on a qwerty keyboard. I hadn't improved in years (even though I trained using typing programs). So I figured I'd give Dvorak a try.
After about 6 weeks I was up to around 75 WPM on Dvorak, but I stopped improving after that. I kept at it for another month or two, but never got back to my old qwerty speed.
Furthermore, the worst thing was that I started to get RSI like symptoms in my right hand from the Dvorak setup, something which I never ever had before, even with very extended periods of very intensive qwerty keyboard usage. So I switched back. Fortunately it took hardly any effort to get back to my old speed and the RSI symptoms disappeared.
If you really want to share a file, just go buy the CD, rip it, and put it online.
Futhermore I seriously doubt most people who buy music at the iTunes store
1) are going to know that this software exists
2) are going to care that this software exists
3) are going to run this software so they can share their music
Finally, Apple could easily (and might already) use digital watermarking to add personal information to the music file, which is a lot harder to remove (no I did not say impossible).
Basically, if they can make sharing iTunes files a bigger hassle than buying/ripping a physical CD and publishing that, the DRM is still effective.
That said, this software does matter for iTunes users. If you lose your iPod or your machine gets p4wned and your files get shared without you knowing, at least this software can make sure your name is not in the files in an easily readable format anymore.
Jeps, I've got me one of those as well, and I'm measuring 4.8 volts.
Won't be shocking me any time soon...
What is the point of an observer with a black box voting machine?
Will the observer get to see the source? Will the observer understand the source? Can the observer verify that the specified source is actually running on the voting machine? How will the observer see if the computer malfunctions in any way causing incorrect counts? Checking the seals is pretty pointless as well, even assuming they are unforgeable and unbreakable, how do we know nobody who places the seals was bribed and changes were made before the seal was placed?
With proper elections the observer can actually OBSERVE stuff:
beforehand:
- is the box empty when the elections start
- is it a normal, intact box?
while voting is taking place:
- is the person on the voting list?
- is the person who he/she claims to be?
- is everybody putting exactly one ballot into the box?
while counting ON SITE:
- is every ballot being counted?
- is the box empty when counting starts? (i.e., is EVERY ballot being counted)
- are the counters counting properly?
after counting:
- are all the ballots put back into the box?
- is the box properly sealed?
- are the correct counts made public?
I like to decide things based on facts and practical considerations. Pros and cons. It makes for better decisions. Try it out sometime.
I don't see any request anywhere in your reply. Instead I see sarcasm, and lots of it. Nor do I see much reason and thought in your posts either. Frankly I think you are rather arrogant and a troll. This discussion (actually you can hardly call it that) is completely pointless with you. I don't know why I'm still bothering to write this reply, but it is definately my last.
This looks more like an ad hominem than an argument full of factual information to me.
I still thing the scope of for example Google is much larger than an insurance company or bank or hospital. For one, if I had to think about which information was the most personal to me out of for example financial records, medical files, or insurance claims versus my google search history, my email history, and my chat history, then for me it's most certainly the last three.
Personally I always delete cookies at the end of every browser session, I don't use gmail, and I tell google to explicitly not store my Google Talk logs. However I can't hide my IP address and short of not using Google they have a lot of information on me. To make matters even worse, I'm not even an American citizen, I live in the Netherlands. I think the privacy issues are very real and very urgent, and I don't like governments just subpoenaing all sorts stuff like this.
Finally, yes I think it's scary. And you can go right ahead and be all nice and optimistic about everything and hope that you can do something to change the way it is. But as far as I can see the reality is very clearly not so optimistic. More and more information about individuals is becoming available to certain people and privacy is definately being lost. I don't think that I'm being very pessimistic when I say that some parts of modern society have alarming parallels to the society of George Orwell's 1984.
Anyway, hope you guys stick up for your rights and do something about it, I can't help ya!
As far as I can see, the internet actually *DID* change that; at least in scope. Instead of the private information of one targetted individual being requested, suddenly private information of an enormous number of people is requested. And instead of the targetted individual receiving the subpoena it's a company; the many indirectly targetted individuals will never know what information about them specifically is handed over.
I don't know if the law was ever intended to be used in this way, but either way it's scary...
I look at a hard drive like most people look at a roll of toilet paper. I use it, it serves its purpose, it gets discarded. The data on it, however, is nearly sacred, and I take every precaution I can afford to protect mine.
;-)
Analogies are fun. What exactly is analogous to the data on your hard drive in this one?
In fact, a broken clock is right more often than a clock that is running 1 minute fast! :-)
One time I when I was really really tired late at night I wanted to rm something in /var/log. So I start typing:
/
rm -rf
with var/log/... to be next.
Then I figured I didn't need the -rf, that was just a sleepy mistake, so I decided to get rid of it (don't know why), and pressed backspace...
Or so I thought....
It took me about 30 seconds to realize what happened (I was sleepy remember), by that time my machine was thoroughly screwed. Fortunately I still had my user data when I pressed ^C.
Before this, I'd have never believed it to be possible to accidently type rm -rf / as root!
Greetz,
Seb*
You are missing the point.
The point is that the spyware/malware can control what you see. That is, every time you are making a transaction, it can do its own stuff in the background and ask you to verify any kind of challenge the bank gives you.
To make my point extra clear:
1) You want to pay $10 to your friend, so your enter this transaction into your webbrowser which is pointed at your banking site.
2) The program which sits in your computer intercepts this transaction (no need to hack SSL, because the interception occurs BEFORE SSL encryption is done) and sends a transaction to your bank for $10000 to acount X. It receives a number from the bank which you must enter into your calculator device. Now it shows you YOUR transaction and the supplied number from the bank.
3) You think everything is hunky dory, enter the number in your calculator device, type your PIN. The device gives you a number to enter on the web page, which you do.
4) The malware uses this number you just typed to complete the $10000 transaction takes the response from the bank and tells you everything went well and you just booked $10 to your friend.
True. However, he will have to do it while the session is active, which makes it quite easy to trace him to the exact cybercafé where it happened. With more passive approaches, a thief could use sniffed codes a while later, making it lots harder to find out which of the many cybercafés from which you browsed your bank accounts when holiday sniffed your numbers.
Actually, all you have to do is install a program that replaces transactions automatically whenever you are using your bank account. This falls into the same category as regular spyware, i.e., it can happen anywhere, anytime, even on your own computer, and the thief does not need to be anywhere near the target computer.
Furthermore, it's easy to replace a transaction and modify the display. For example, the user wishes to make two transactions A, and B. He enters them and then sends them to his bank. Underwater, the malicious program changed these transactions, but does not show the user. It remembers the id's of these transactions and shows the original intended transactions whenever they come up on the user's screen.
This kind of replacement attacks can go on for a long time before they are noticed (until you check your account on an uninfected PC, check the paper trail sent to you by your bank, or get complaints from someone thought claim you paid).
Well, one way to do this is to turn of the "boot from CD" option in the BIOS (which in many cases the spyware could easily do). Or in many cases (especially internet cafe's etc), this is already the case. Then the hard disk is booted (which is infected with spyware/malware) which then sees that the Knoppix (or other CD) is in the CD drive, and then boots it instead of booting the operating system on the hard drive.
I'm not saying this is easy, and I'm not saying the CD solution is not 100 times better than the current state. What I'm saying is that when your computer is compromised, you should be REALLY REALLY careful.
There are some other serious caveats as well.
First of all, it is only usable on computers which even boot CD's from the BIOS. If the CD boot option is disabled, it's not much use.
Even worse is when add/spyware gets between the boot process on such a PC. The PC boots the harddisk, the spyware detects the Knoppix Banking CD, then it puts itself in memory and boots the CD. You'll never know, and there will STILL be an untrusted program logging everything you are doing.
Of course this solution is MORE secure than just doing your banking on an untrusted PC under Windows (it takes quite some work to implement the above hack), but in the end, an untrusted PC is an untrusted PC.
Doing anything on an untrusted console is NEVER secure, not even with all these measures. It's very easy for spyware/malware to do a man in the middle attack and insert any number of transactions which it will hide from you by sitting between you, your browser and your bank. You will then happily verify everything with your PIN code, calculator device, whatever, and end up sending money to somebody else.
Since the programs are running on the endpoint of the SSL connection, SSL is not going to help you either.
Nope, I was not aware of that. On FreeBSD at least it doesn't, and I'm glad of it. Anyway, it's still third party software, though maybe it's bundled in with the main application. I think it's a bad choice to bundle it (I mean how hard is it to click "Install Plugin" anyway?), because you get exactly this situation: people blaming Firefox for bad design in another application. And I have to agree, if they bundle it, then the blame *is* partly theirs.
Actually it's not Firefox that allows it, but it's a third party plugin you yourself installed.
How the hell can you expect Firefox to block code that you yourself CHOSE to install, code that is provided by a third part??
On the bright side, Firefox DOES have mechanisms for blocking this stuff in this case: just use the adblock plugin.
The only proper way to solve this problem is to complain to MacroMedia, whose software you chose to run even though it allows this kind of "absolutely insane shit", (or even better, deinstall their evil software).
I switched to Dvorak for fun a while back to test it's claims about speed. I type 75 WPM average on a QWERTY keyboard, and wanted to improve on that.
I spent about 3 month typing on DVORAK before I hit the speed barrier (wasn't improving anymore), and:
1) I was slower (50 WPM average)
2) It really hurt my right hand, I started getting RSI like symptoms. It made me use my right pinky and ring finger too frequently too quickly in succession. With QUERTY I have the feeling that most of the typing is concentrated on the pointing in middle fingers.
3) Programming was REALLY hopeless... All the frequently used symbols where in the most inconvenient positions.
4) It's a REAL pain when every other computer you sit at has a different keyboard layout from the one you use, and you constantly have to switch it. This is also a pain for other people when you forget to switch it back.
After 4 months I switched back. Took me another month to stop typing the wrong letters in QWERTY but now I'm back at my old speed and my RSI symptoms are gone again...
Greetings,
Seb*
P.S.: This is not a scientific test disproving claims about DVORAK keyboards, it's just my personal experience.
They should make file SHARING (thus not reselling) 100% legal. This has many advantages.
:-)
First of all, there is nothing anyone can do to stop it. Peer to peer networks will get better and more secure, up to the point that nobody knows what anybody is sharing or downloading.
Secondly it won't stop people from going to movies or buying stuff... I still like going to a movie because it's just a different experience than seeing a movie at home. So is a concert. And sometimes when you really like something very much you just feel better buying it knowing you support the artists that created it. I know I'm not the only one that feels that way. (This way making lousy holywood movies might actually be BAD for business too...)
There are plenty of alternate opportunities to make money. I would love to buy stuff online if I would know it's just good quality with no hassles, and the prices were decent.
Finally, the current business model is outdated... legalizing the sharing of copyrighted material will get the companies looking for new ways to do business NOW, and will give the greatest benefit to the consumers. In the end they'll have to do that anyway (due to the first reason).
And as an extra bonus, the crime rate in almost every country would go down immensly (no more illegal file sharers! YAY!)
Servoy requires only the Java JDK on the client side. Install and upgrade of the client are a simple matter of a click. This could be the reason it was slow the first time you started it, because it needs to download the client software into webstart (this is a couple of megabytes). Once this is done however, it starts relatively quickly. Furthermore, even solutions are cached client side, so that startup is actually quite fast.
The statement "Servoy is so slow" is a bit off I think... Considering you don't need to go by 100 computers with a CD-ROM to install or upgrade each and every install Servoy Client, it's actually FASTER than FileMaker in this case. Also you'll find that it performs quite well even over IDSN, thus both the "install" performance and "run time" performance are excellent.
You should also try the download of the Servoy Developer to get a good feeling for how Servoy works. The Java GUI is a bit slower than some native GUI's but it's not a real big difference.
There's a bit of a learning curve when learning Servoy, especially from a FileMaker perspective, but there are a large number of documents and tutorials to help.
Greetings,
Sebastiaan van Erk
(Part of the Servoy team (just so you know))
Maps perfectly to the real world:
;-) If that doesn't give you the information you needed, you asked the wrong question.
1) You actually did beat your wife and have stopped doing so... answer the question with a YES.
2) You actually did beat your wife and still doe, so you didn't stop beating your wife... the answer is NO.
3) Any other case (like you don't have a wife, or never STARTED beating her, so you can't possibly stop), the answer must be NO.
In my case, I'd have to answer with a NO
Greetings,
Sebster
This is a totally easy problem to solve. Just ask the ISP to up your limit (or even remove it).
Thus: ISP blocks port 25 outgoing except to their own mailservers, ISP allows 50 mails per hour. If you want to run your own mail server or need to send more mail per hour, you ask your ISP to unblock port 25 or up the limit. ISP complies, and as long as their are no complaints there are no problems.
99% of the poeple won't ask to up the limit because they won't need it. Those who do will generally know a bit more about computers than those who don't and are bit less likely to be spambots. A computer which can only send 50 mails per hour is not a very effective spam bot.
Greetz,
Seb*
FreeBSD rules:
:) :)
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