I'll second that. I'm running 1.1 with no problems, and I wasn't at all interested in 1.2. I decided to wait at least until 1.6 or higher, unless something really kick-ass got added before then.
actually, hte first thing I did was go back to the link and open in a new tab, and it was still blocked. Thing is, the referrer still gets sent because it's still valid, doesn't matter if you're opening a new window or not. I wonder how it is that you've been circumventing this stuff with Mozilla, when quite clearly for me for the last year I've been using it (starting with 0.9.8) the referrer is still being sent.
I'll run some tests and see what happens though, I'm interested in nailing this down.
Speaking as an OSS zealot myself, I have to agree with the basic logic of your statement. It would be better for us, I think, if we just handled the bugs better than MS (not hard, just fix 'em quickly and move on) and demonstrated our superior capabilities constructively, rather than generating FUD that would make MS' collective dick hard.
That could be a limitation caused by the cross-platform nature of the application. In wxWindows, a textbox widget can only store about 4000 bytes, but a richtext widget can store a lot more. Problem is, richtext isn't available for GNU/Linux, it's only for windows. I'd like to see it dealt with too, though, just because that's an irritating bug to have.
heh, didn't go out of my way, I was wondering if the earlier you post the higher your moderation can go. And I was a little peeved at all the trolls talking about Windows.
Consider this, though. Retarded means (based on the italian root, or latin, whatever) "slower". So, to describe someone as Retarded means you're probably describing them in relation to yourself. Since the average windows user is "slower" than the average slashdot reader, it's safe to say that Windows lusers are retarded in a slashdot forum.
Interesting that every couple of months when Mozilla has a bug or exploit or something people talk all kinds of trash, but forget about other competitors (IE) that have new exploits almost daily.
All in all, bug for bug, line by line, even accounting for the massive differences in complexity (mozilla is by far a more complex project that IE ever wanted to be), I'd have to say that Mozilla has less show-stopping bugs and fewer exploits than IE.
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Actually it's not a rationalization for theft, since I've always stolen music. When I was a kid, it was explained to me (and I did thoroughly research the issue in the late 80's and early 90's) that you are *not* stealing copyrighted material if you don't pay for it. You are stealing it when you pay someone other than the people authorized by the copyright owners to collect payment. For example, if you copy me a CD, that's ok. But if I give you $10 for it, *that* is piracy. Fair use includes the right to redistribute the works and to collect a fee up to the cost of materials. Anything higher than that is not covered by fair use anymore. The EULA's that have been printed on CD's for years are themselves illegal (or were 10 years ago) and FUD all the same.
Let's educate the up-and-coming bands by showing them ourselves what we want them to do. You don't get people to do what you want if you don't do it yourself. Lead them, and they will follow.
And as far as the bands we know and love that are now incredibly rich, let me direct your attention to Metallica. Need I say more?
In their early days, Metallica encouraged people to pirate their music, record it at shows and give it to their friends, buy the albums and copy them for all their friends. They even set aside SPACE at the show so people could get the best quality bootleg recordings possible! I joined up with them during this time, and when they got rich and successful and subsequently started sticking a knife in the collective back of their fans, I dropped 'em.
In spite of their ultimate hypocrisy, Metallica got rich and famous because they toured a LOT, and they encouraged PIRACY. Talent, as usual, had nothing to do with it.:)
heh, I'll bet if you point out the episodes I"ll say something like "But that's after Gene Roddenberry died! I quit watching then." Of course, I was graduating from high school then, kid.:)
But I"ll have to take your word for it, because it's been years since I've seen many TNG episodes. And I only recently got caught up with movies again, and they're about to release another one.
Kirk could kick Picard's ass on any planet. Just thought I'd mention that.
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For the people altogether too stupid to make the connection between purchasing music and supporting the bands they like, well... I guess maybe they'll get it once there aren't any new songs to download. emphasis mine
Read this. Fact is, when you buy a CD you might be hurting the band. Boycott the RIAA-protected labels, and let the musicians know that if they want you to listen to their music, they'll have to use channels you like, such as P2P.:)
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Well, I'm 28 and I grew up not paying for music too. It was called cassettes.
Conversely, I've pumped quite a chunk of change into the record companies. I've probly replaced my original pirated collectins 4 times, and I still don't have it anymore (except I have the original copied cassettes, but no tape deck). That comes out to around 1000 CDs that I've bought over my lifetime.
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Hey, uh, I just finished watching this episode, and I could SWEAR that guy said "STOKE me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast." Of course, there's also an episode called "stoke me a kipper", so I could be biased.
(Unfortunately it is free-beer, as the source is not available. Hmmmm, I guess rms should target God as the largest producer of closed-source software in the Universe?)
Actually, he has. He has this habit of telling people "I'm sorry to be the one to have to tell you this, but God doesn't exist."
actually, you still have to reverse-engineer your car when you pop the hood.
The difference between this and proprietary software is that you didn't sign a contract when you drove your car for the first time after buying it saying you wouldn't do it.
hey, since when does your APPEARANCE signify the quality of your work?
HUH?
I have a damn strong work ethic, and I generally don't dress up at all. Scientists in general work damn hard trying to reverse-engineer the world for us, and for the most part are trying to improve our lives by doing so.
CUT HER SOME FUCKING SLACK. And show some respect. Clothes do NOT earn respect, but hard work does.
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I'll second that. I'm running 1.1 with no problems, and I wasn't at all interested in 1.2. I decided to wait at least until 1.6 or higher, unless something really kick-ass got added before then.
I'll run some tests and see what happens though, I'm interested in nailing this down.
Maybe using the Mozilla ActiveX control will do it, I don't know.
Speaking as an OSS zealot myself, I have to agree with the basic logic of your statement. It would be better for us, I think, if we just handled the bugs better than MS (not hard, just fix 'em quickly and move on) and demonstrated our superior capabilities constructively, rather than generating FUD that would make MS' collective dick hard.
That could be a limitation caused by the cross-platform nature of the application. In wxWindows, a textbox widget can only store about 4000 bytes, but a richtext widget can store a lot more. Problem is, richtext isn't available for GNU/Linux, it's only for windows. I'd like to see it dealt with too, though, just because that's an irritating bug to have.
Consider this, though. Retarded means (based on the italian root, or latin, whatever) "slower". So, to describe someone as Retarded means you're probably describing them in relation to yourself. Since the average windows user is "slower" than the average slashdot reader, it's safe to say that Windows lusers are retarded in a slashdot forum.
uhhhhhh.... links to bugzilla from slashdot are disabled. :)
All in all, bug for bug, line by line, even accounting for the massive differences in complexity (mozilla is by far a more complex project that IE ever wanted to be), I'd have to say that Mozilla has less show-stopping bugs and fewer exploits than IE.
Actually it's not a rationalization for theft, since I've always stolen music. When I was a kid, it was explained to me (and I did thoroughly research the issue in the late 80's and early 90's) that you are *not* stealing copyrighted material if you don't pay for it. You are stealing it when you pay someone other than the people authorized by the copyright owners to collect payment. For example, if you copy me a CD, that's ok. But if I give you $10 for it, *that* is piracy. Fair use includes the right to redistribute the works and to collect a fee up to the cost of materials. Anything higher than that is not covered by fair use anymore. The EULA's that have been printed on CD's for years are themselves illegal (or were 10 years ago) and FUD all the same.
Let's educate the up-and-coming bands by showing them ourselves what we want them to do. You don't get people to do what you want if you don't do it yourself. Lead them, and they will follow.
And as far as the bands we know and love that are now incredibly rich, let me direct your attention to Metallica. Need I say more?
In their early days, Metallica encouraged people to pirate their music, record it at shows and give it to their friends, buy the albums and copy them for all their friends. They even set aside SPACE at the show so people could get the best quality bootleg recordings possible! I joined up with them during this time, and when they got rich and successful and subsequently started sticking a knife in the collective back of their fans, I dropped 'em.
In spite of their ultimate hypocrisy, Metallica got rich and famous because they toured a LOT, and they encouraged PIRACY. Talent, as usual, had nothing to do with it. :)
But I"ll have to take your word for it, because it's been years since I've seen many TNG episodes. And I only recently got caught up with movies again, and they're about to release another one.
Kirk could kick Picard's ass on any planet. Just thought I'd mention that.
For the people altogether too stupid to make the connection between purchasing music and supporting the bands they like, well... I guess maybe they'll get it once there aren't any new songs to download. emphasis mine
Read this. Fact is, when you buy a CD you might be hurting the band. Boycott the RIAA-protected labels, and let the musicians know that if they want you to listen to their music, they'll have to use channels you like, such as P2P. :)
Well, I'm 28 and I grew up not paying for music too. It was called cassettes.
Conversely, I've pumped quite a chunk of change into the record companies. I've probly replaced my original pirated collectins 4 times, and I still don't have it anymore (except I have the original copied cassettes, but no tape deck). That comes out to around 1000 CDs that I've bought over my lifetime.
ANd I grew up not paying for music.
that's because they didn't make it up until after the episodes were over. :)
" -- Smoke Me A Kipper I'll Be Back For Breakfast - Ace Rimmer " Hey, uh, I just finished watching this episode, and I could SWEAR that guy said "STOKE me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast." Of course, there's also an episode called "stoke me a kipper", so I could be biased.
God's a geek? Suddenly the world makes less sense than it did before....
Of course, that does make a few things make more sense. For example, the duck-billed platypus is obvioiusly the predecessor to the IT professional.
Actually, he has. He has this habit of telling people "I'm sorry to be the one to have to tell you this, but God doesn't exist."
And they're just now discovering it? Did the reporter read a man page or something?
The difference between this and proprietary software is that you didn't sign a contract when you drove your car for the first time after buying it saying you wouldn't do it.
hey, since when does your APPEARANCE signify the quality of your work? HUH? I have a damn strong work ethic, and I generally don't dress up at all. Scientists in general work damn hard trying to reverse-engineer the world for us, and for the most part are trying to improve our lives by doing so. CUT HER SOME FUCKING SLACK. And show some respect. Clothes do NOT earn respect, but hard work does.
that's a great idea. While we're zapping them to rid them of memories, let's , well, nevermind.
hehe! Too bad searches for gnu or free software aren't coming to the top yet. YET.