Russia and China gave done it numerous times. They will be happy to lose 25% of their economy if they believe they can hurt the west. Keep in mind that from Chinese leaders pov, they are in a cold war with the west
Wrong on all accounts. When national traded are off by the amount that it is, esp when China is loaded with heavy tariffs against western nations, then it is time to stop it. Basically, China is waging economic war on.the west. Far better for the west to trade with each other as well as helping nations like Mexico.
When ever trade is more than 10% difference, the nation being hurt is allowed to put tariffs on imports from that nation. As such, W and O SHOULD have this as well but did not. Hopefully trump will do this.
Our Tesla MS is a 2013, so we do not have the hardware for AP. However, a number of other owners have told me that AP save them from crashes. Apparently with other cars, it is primitive and just does simple braking. These folks mention that it detects others coming in their lanes esp. in blindspots; warns them of going too fast; etc. These folks have sold there Mercedes, Audis, BMWs, caddies, etc. They tell me they are inferior. We are keeping our old highlander with 160k miles. Will try to keep it going until MY hits market in 2019. But wife wants to trade the MS for an MX with today's HW.
and yet, Trump is already backing off on his taking out ACA. In fact, lots of promises and statements that he made, he is backing off from.
And so many thought he was not a good GOP. I think that he is shaping to be the PERFECT GOP.
EXACTLY.
And snowden simply went too far to be a whistleblower. He should have stopped before speaking about spying on other nations and groups. He knew that NSA was legal on that.
And America has absolutely NO SAY on Assange. The only nation that is really interested in him, is Sweden.
first off, clinton did NOT lose by a whisker. She won the popular vote and lose the electoral vote (which is the REAL one). WHy did she lose? Because so many dems ASSUMED that she had already won, that they did not bother to show up.
IOW, it was not dems voting for the trump, since he got slightly less than the typical number of votes for GOP. OTOH, the number of votes for dems plummeted.
1) manning belongs in prison. He was a traitor by releasing more information than was needed to stop what he objected to.
2) Snowden deserves a medal for reporting on the spying on America by individuals, and then multiple bullets for having given out all sorts of legal stuff that the NSA did.
3) it is not our place to 'parden' assange or wikileaks. Even now, America has no rights to him. The nation that wants him is sweden. And I doubt that they will let a 2x rapists go free.
if you are paying attention, like you would have to do in a plane auto-pilot, then you simply take hold of the wheel again and avoid the truck. The problem with the Florida guy was that he was NOT paying attention. Auto-pilot in plane, ships, boats, and car means that you STILL HAVE TO WATCH.
china will NOT keep its agreement. They have made many agreements and then simply ignore them, or had them set up to cheat from the gitgo.
Japan's agreement with China on its pollution, requires that all new coal plants for the last 20 years, have pollution controls on them (scrubbers, etc). Sadly, they did not require that China have them turned on. CHina just leaves them turned off.
America's trade agreement with china is likewise a joke. They have broken nearly 100% of it. And yet, our gov does nothing.
THis is why Im hoping to get America i.e. Trump's ppl, to put a tax on ALL CONSUMED goods/services that will rise slowly. If the manufacture or the service company goes on-line to a certain site, they can list out the states and nations where the sub-parts, ingredients, services comes from. Then simply make the tax % based on where the WORST part comes from in terms of CO2. What is needed is OCO-3 for getting absolute values on CO2 flow (in and out of nations), along with smart normalization. Most push per capita but ppl do NOT make the choices. Gov and businesses do. So, we should do a % based on emissions / $GDP. It the heavy emitting states and nations knows that it will costs them exports, then and only then, will they take it down rapidly. For example, you can bet that CHina will quit building Coal plants and instead pour that money into nukes and AE.
In addition, they will quit trying to cheat since OCO-3 guarantees that they will not be able to cheat.
We bought used from a Porsche dealer. We did NOT get the training, but I heard that we can go to service station and they will do so.
When u buy from Tesla used, they treat it like new car with exception that you can pick up right away rather than having it delivered to house.
Nope. I'm American, but talk to other Tesla owners from Norway, Sweden, Estonia, Germany, france, and Spain. They all describe the same training. Basically, they drop the car off at your house and then give u 1-3 hours of training.
Right here from EIA.Likewise, if you do not want to accept those figures, then simply note the fact that Utilities are shutting down coal plants and replacing them with a mix of nat gas and wind. The reason for the wind is that it can be cheaper than nat gas depending on the area.
Hmmm. I differ with the auto pilot description. In fact, Tesla only requires hands on to avoid the legal issues. And when you are in control of the cockpit, you STILL have to pay attention to either visual or instruments even when under AP and hands are not on controls.
BUT, I do like the idea of calling this CURRENT version co-pilot. It really is not a bad way to go and does describe the sitaution better. Of course, in under another year, that will not matter.
So, does the Flight version of Autopilot. Only idiots think that it is 100% ready. More importantly, all new owners are taught about all of these issues.
The fact is, that all of the sold cars come with training. In that, they spend 1-2 hours teaching you about the car as well as going for drives and teaching the autopilot and how to use it.
When we took our 2013 tesla in for servicing, they gave us a new MS loaner. We had a 2-4 minute training on the autopilot and we were good to go. And it was just fine.
My gut says that the 2% are simply ppl trying to skew things and feigning stupidity.
Seriously, let him roll back O's regulations on coal plants. At this time, they have done NOTHING. Prior to O, we were like China and was growing our coal plants. However, it was not O's regs that have stopped this.
It was 2 things which was the Mercury regs ( while we are already way below Europe, Asia, but this will bring our mercury down to near zero) being moved to end of 2016, along with W's push for drilling and fracking. That fracking provided CHEAP CHEAP nat gas at a time when coal plants had to decide on shutting down or putting on scrubbers. As such, we went from ~60% coal (and 15% nat gas) to 27% coal and 33% nat gas at end of this year. So, our fossil fuel has converted to clean fossil, but also dropped.
So, what will happen over the next couple of years? Trump and GOP want to push both COAL AND DRILLING. If both are done, then nat gas will remain low costs, and no American utility will want coal plant. OTOH, China, japan, and south korea might pick up more, but I doubt that it will be too much. Australia is now heavily automated on their coal. So, cheap coal is going NO WHERE in America.
UN-Subsidized Wind is already cheaper than coal. Solar is more expensive, but that is the average. Solar City has the lowest installed costs and with their new plant should be cheap than coal. So, America's electricity will continue to move towards being cleaned up over time.
That leaves vehicles. Tesla's M3 will be cheaper and superior compared to its ICE competitors. Who will want to buy a BMW 300 series when they can buy a Tesla M3? Few. The fastest competitor will compete with the slowest version of the M3. That will no doubt cause buyers of some of the most polluting cars (luxury cars such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Caddy, Porsche, Lexus, Infiniti, etc) to continue losing shares. As it is, Tesla MS already sells 1/3 of the full size luxury market and should move up to about 50% by summer 2017. Tesla MX is expected to hit 33% of is market by summer 2017. Basically, Tesla will force car makers to move to DECENT EVs or die. And by decent EVs, we are not talking the leaf, bolt, I3, i5 type garbage. All of those have been gutted so that they will not compete against ICE vehicles. Tesla will force them to produce cars that compete against tesla and will destroy their own ICE.
So, for those of you concerned with where America is going, do not fret. While we will likely drop paris, we will continue to clean up regardless of what trump and his ilk do.
yeah, it is absolutely horrible bringing mexico's minimum wage up higher. And obviously, minimmum wages being raised will kill jobs. I mean thank god that we are still at.75 / hr because otherwise, we would have no jobs.
In the mean time, you might want to take up some macro economic classes.
well, go ahead. Of course, Tesla's runs out in less than 9 months. After that, it is just GM, Ford, Chrysler, Hyundai, Jaguar, Toyota, Honda, Lexus, VW, etc. etc. that have it. And with it gone, and tesla having gotten their 250,000 EV or hybrids done, they will be happy to see the others loose it.
not really. $3 / hr for manufacturing still sucks and is very low. Again, if trump is going to deal with NAFTA, they need to argue with them to bring the MINIMUM WAGE up to $3 / hr. That will bring up the manufacturing pay as well.
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Nope. That can be kept clean. It was dirty because companies cheated.
Russia and China gave done it numerous times. They will be happy to lose 25% of their economy if they believe they can hurt the west. Keep in mind that from Chinese leaders pov, they are in a cold war with the west
Wrong on all accounts. When national traded are off by the amount that it is, esp when China is loaded with heavy tariffs against western nations, then it is time to stop it. Basically, China is waging economic war on.the west. Far better for the west to trade with each other as well as helping nations like Mexico.
When ever trade is more than 10% difference, the nation being hurt is allowed to put tariffs on imports from that nation. As such, W and O SHOULD have this as well but did not. Hopefully trump will do this.
And yet, busses have a higher death rate than does Tesla on AP.
Our Tesla MS is a 2013, so we do not have the hardware for AP. However, a number of other owners have told me that AP save them from crashes. Apparently with other cars, it is primitive and just does simple braking. These folks mention that it detects others coming in their lanes esp. in blindspots; warns them of going too fast; etc. These folks have sold there Mercedes, Audis, BMWs, caddies, etc. They tell me they are inferior. We are keeping our old highlander with 160k miles. Will try to keep it going until MY hits market in 2019. But wife wants to trade the MS for an MX with today's HW.
and yet, Trump is already backing off on his taking out ACA. In fact, lots of promises and statements that he made, he is backing off from.
And so many thought he was not a good GOP. I think that he is shaping to be the PERFECT GOP.
I can and those of us either owning or buying Tesla call it such. So there.
EXACTLY.
And snowden simply went too far to be a whistleblower. He should have stopped before speaking about spying on other nations and groups. He knew that NSA was legal on that.
And America has absolutely NO SAY on Assange. The only nation that is really interested in him, is Sweden.
first off, clinton did NOT lose by a whisker. She won the popular vote and lose the electoral vote (which is the REAL one). WHy did she lose? Because so many dems ASSUMED that she had already won, that they did not bother to show up.
IOW, it was not dems voting for the trump, since he got slightly less than the typical number of votes for GOP. OTOH, the number of votes for dems plummeted.
1) manning belongs in prison. He was a traitor by releasing more information than was needed to stop what he objected to.
2) Snowden deserves a medal for reporting on the spying on America by individuals, and then multiple bullets for having given out all sorts of legal stuff that the NSA did.
3) it is not our place to 'parden' assange or wikileaks. Even now, America has no rights to him. The nation that wants him is sweden. And I doubt that they will let a 2x rapists go free.
if you are paying attention, like you would have to do in a plane auto-pilot, then you simply take hold of the wheel again and avoid the truck. The problem with the Florida guy was that he was NOT paying attention. Auto-pilot in plane, ships, boats, and car means that you STILL HAVE TO WATCH.
china will NOT keep its agreement. They have made many agreements and then simply ignore them, or had them set up to cheat from the gitgo.
Japan's agreement with China on its pollution, requires that all new coal plants for the last 20 years, have pollution controls on them (scrubbers, etc). Sadly, they did not require that China have them turned on. CHina just leaves them turned off.
America's trade agreement with china is likewise a joke. They have broken nearly 100% of it. And yet, our gov does nothing.
THis is why Im hoping to get America i.e. Trump's ppl, to put a tax on ALL CONSUMED goods/services that will rise slowly. If the manufacture or the service company goes on-line to a certain site, they can list out the states and nations where the sub-parts, ingredients, services comes from. Then simply make the tax % based on where the WORST part comes from in terms of CO2. What is needed is OCO-3 for getting absolute values on CO2 flow (in and out of nations), along with smart normalization. Most push per capita but ppl do NOT make the choices. Gov and businesses do. So, we should do a % based on emissions / $GDP. It the heavy emitting states and nations knows that it will costs them exports, then and only then, will they take it down rapidly. For example, you can bet that CHina will quit building Coal plants and instead pour that money into nukes and AE. In addition, they will quit trying to cheat since OCO-3 guarantees that they will not be able to cheat.
We bought used from a Porsche dealer. We did NOT get the training, but I heard that we can go to service station and they will do so. When u buy from Tesla used, they treat it like new car with exception that you can pick up right away rather than having it delivered to house.
Btw, Tesla is only sold online.
Nope. I'm American, but talk to other Tesla owners from Norway, Sweden, Estonia, Germany, france, and Spain. They all describe the same training. Basically, they drop the car off at your house and then give u 1-3 hours of training.
Right here from EIA.Likewise, if you do not want to accept those figures, then simply note the fact that Utilities are shutting down coal plants and replacing them with a mix of nat gas and wind. The reason for the wind is that it can be cheaper than nat gas depending on the area.
Hmmm. I differ with the auto pilot description. In fact, Tesla only requires hands on to avoid the legal issues. And when you are in control of the cockpit, you STILL have to pay attention to either visual or instruments even when under AP and hands are not on controls.
BUT, I do like the idea of calling this CURRENT version co-pilot. It really is not a bad way to go and does describe the sitaution better. Of course, in under another year, that will not matter.
So, does the Flight version of Autopilot. Only idiots think that it is 100% ready. More importantly, all new owners are taught about all of these issues.
The fact is, that all of the sold cars come with training. In that, they spend 1-2 hours teaching you about the car as well as going for drives and teaching the autopilot and how to use it.
When we took our 2013 tesla in for servicing, they gave us a new MS loaner. We had a 2-4 minute training on the autopilot and we were good to go. And it was just fine.
My gut says that the 2% are simply ppl trying to skew things and feigning stupidity.
Seriously, let him roll back O's regulations on coal plants. At this time, they have done NOTHING. Prior to O, we were like China and was growing our coal plants. However, it was not O's regs that have stopped this.
It was 2 things which was the Mercury regs ( while we are already way below Europe, Asia, but this will bring our mercury down to near zero) being moved to end of 2016, along with W's push for drilling and fracking. That fracking provided CHEAP CHEAP nat gas at a time when coal plants had to decide on shutting down or putting on scrubbers. As such, we went from ~60% coal (and 15% nat gas) to 27% coal and 33% nat gas at end of this year. So, our fossil fuel has converted to clean fossil, but also dropped.
So, what will happen over the next couple of years? Trump and GOP want to push both COAL AND DRILLING. If both are done, then nat gas will remain low costs, and no American utility will want coal plant. OTOH, China, japan, and south korea might pick up more, but I doubt that it will be too much. Australia is now heavily automated on their coal. So, cheap coal is going NO WHERE in America.
UN-Subsidized Wind is already cheaper than coal. Solar is more expensive, but that is the average. Solar City has the lowest installed costs and with their new plant should be cheap than coal. So, America's electricity will continue to move towards being cleaned up over time.
That leaves vehicles. Tesla's M3 will be cheaper and superior compared to its ICE competitors. Who will want to buy a BMW 300 series when they can buy a Tesla M3? Few. The fastest competitor will compete with the slowest version of the M3. That will no doubt cause buyers of some of the most polluting cars (luxury cars such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Caddy, Porsche, Lexus, Infiniti, etc) to continue losing shares. As it is, Tesla MS already sells 1/3 of the full size luxury market and should move up to about 50% by summer 2017. Tesla MX is expected to hit 33% of is market by summer 2017. Basically, Tesla will force car makers to move to DECENT EVs or die. And by decent EVs, we are not talking the leaf, bolt, I3, i5 type garbage. All of those have been gutted so that they will not compete against ICE vehicles. Tesla will force them to produce cars that compete against tesla and will destroy their own ICE.
So, for those of you concerned with where America is going, do not fret. While we will likely drop paris, we will continue to clean up regardless of what trump and his ilk do.
yeah, it is absolutely horrible bringing mexico's minimum wage up higher. And obviously, minimmum wages being raised will kill jobs. I mean thank god that we are still at .75 / hr because otherwise, we would have no jobs.
In the mean time, you might want to take up some macro economic classes.
well, go ahead. Of course, Tesla's runs out in less than 9 months. After that, it is just GM, Ford, Chrysler, Hyundai, Jaguar, Toyota, Honda, Lexus, VW, etc. etc. that have it. And with it gone, and tesla having gotten their 250,000 EV or hybrids done, they will be happy to see the others loose it.
how trump is going to carry out all of his promises and really help the average blue collar American worker.
not really. $3 / hr for manufacturing still sucks and is very low. Again, if trump is going to deal with NAFTA, they need to argue with them to bring the MINIMUM WAGE up to $3 / hr. That will bring up the manufacturing pay as well.