No, I would say that the sufferer is yourself.
You neo-con/tea-party type continue to push us towards the SLS as well as going to the moon, while ignoring real facts.
O has kept private space going. O did NOT come up with the asteroids, but it was NASA that came forward with the Idea. He is simply supporting it.
And why is he supporting it? Because it accomplishes multiple things. The first is how to move an asteroid that COULD be on a collision course for the earth. BUT, it can also mean moving a small-medium asteroid to earth, to enable processing of various elements.
And of course, it means surviving in BEO for sometime.
And what your type ignores is the fact that Bigelow wants to go to the moon in the smart way. Likewise, Musk wants to go to mars in the same smart way. IOW, they are trying to offer up the shovels, homes, and rides to nations, which is where the real money is.
Sadly, you neo-cons continue to destroy private space while pushing your massively expensive nightmare, without a thought of the future.
Not just SpaceX, but Bigelow and Blue Origin.
The fact is, that to get to the moon and mars, we need multiple companies that can compete but also provide redunancy.
Sadly, the GOP is intent on killing off private space. Even the tea* are allowing the neo-cons to pull this shit.
For example, Shelby is DESPERATE to kill private space. He and othe rest of the GOP would rather spend 3-4 billion / year for the next 20 years building the SLS AND SEND ANOTHER 2B TO PUTIN then invest less than 2B into American businesses to get this going.
For those of you who live in these states with these senators, please write them and tell them to stop this BS.
Seriously, what is needed is to require TIGHT regulations on companies that do this kind of BS. If they make agreements like this, then the feds should tax those companies for those areas. In fact, they should be able to limit the profits from those areas to say no more than 5%/year.
The reason is simple. With competition, each company has incentives to invest to keep customers happy. Without it, and esp. when prevented by those companies, then they have NO incentive to invest. So, by keeping profit for that region to below 5% (if not 3%)/year, then they have a strong incentive to invest to offer more amenities (i.e. more revenue to increase the profits), OR allow competition to come.
Regardless, this kind of BS is killing America. It is disgusting that companies are doing this, but understandable. What is REALLY disgusting, is that cities go along with this BS, and do not put time limits on it.
Get ppl to learn it, so that they do not have to train them.
In addition, if they give it away, but block their competitors, it means that they have a leg up.
Of course, many of their competitors are using OSS, so.....
They are developing the largest rocket on their own, called the FH. It has 3 cores similar to what delta IV has. However, they will also have x-over that gives them 33% more cargo. Nobody has done this. In addition, they are building MCT which will launch 150-200 tonnes to Leo. That will be the world's largest ever. In addition to using their X-over, they will be using the first production methane engines. Note that FH happens next year and MCT is expected around 2018.
And that is all out of their money.
So, spaceX is a welfare queen. Hmmm.
We have invested less than 1B into SpaceX via COTS. In return, America now has a launch system that is the cheapest in the world. In addition, the company now employes 3000+ ppl, and will launch the Falcon heavy in less than 12 months, and it will be the worlds largest biggest launcher (again, the cheapest).
Now, we have invested less than.5B into them for a human launcher. Note that we have already paid Russia over 1.5B to Launch to the ISS, and for the next 2 years, will pay more than.5B. IOW, we are funding Russia's space launches, while ppl like you scream that we are spending too much on our own private companies.
Finally, as to innovation, you are right that they were not innovative. However, they are the now the first group that has ever successfully brought down a stage to the earth without it being destroyed (the ocean destroyed it AFTER it 'landed'). The Dragon is loaded with a number of new innovations that go well beyond anything ever done. At this time, SpaceX is ahead of the game and now rates as one of the most innovative space groups going.
And you will note that NONE of that includes raptor or MCT, or the X-over on FH.
The interesting thing is NOT that 4 companies are building access to space.
The interesting thing is that space is doing it for a fraction of what gov does.
For example, Russia charges 70 million / seat.
But spaceX will charge 20 million.
In addition, once f9r and dragon rider are landing on land, then cost will drop to 10-15 million .
IOW, private space is making the moon and mars possible.
Can not collect it, BUT, that does not mean that it will not be owed. Basically, once a real solution (such as MTS) is sought and all can agree on, then they will have to pay it back, though I suspect without interest.
Actually, you would have about 6% of what we have and it would be so low energy that it would be pretty much safe after 200 years, rather than 20,000 years.
wow. I thought it was over 100 B? Only 25B? That sux. Still, with say 10B from it invested into MST along with reprocessing of the waste, it would enable our nuke copmpanies to not only make a profit, but remove their waste.
Considering that we have some odd 100's of billions for nuke storage (supposedly), I would say lets invest that into pushing MTS reactors. That way, less than 6% of 'waste' has to be dealt with.
Math is a sore point for America these days.
I had calculus in 9th grade, but that was in the 70s. Now, I have seen poorer school districts cut out most math beyond 6th grade to focus on teaching the illegals english. BUT, in the average k-6, we are well above other nations. Even our testing shows that, since we test EVERYBODY starting in 3rd, while most other nations only test at around 10-12th grade. Heck, China and India test less than 10% of their kids and all of those are their top students. And the kids that come here from those other nations are the BEST OF THE BEST that they have to offer. So, do not feel so bad.
Well, first off, Houston will not be first. They do not have enough military right there. BUT, they will be in the second wave and yes, the chinese WILL use multiple waves.
As to not being fond of them, well, that is why we need them. The last thing that we want to do is lower the count to say 1000 missiles, esp. since China is obviously building many more and trying to keep it quiet.
Yes, they bombed weddings and goats.
Of course, there were AQ there in all cases, though many choose to ignore the fact that AQ warriors like to surround themselves with innocent ppl and goats so as to spread the death.
Actually, nearly all can. However, when you have a 5 year slump and you go through one of hardest recessions/depression, you burn it all up in the first year or two.
Skip the focus on fucking Comp. Sci.
America has, overall, great schools in the k-6 realm. I have seen kids come from Germany, Austria, China, Sweden, Britain, Thailand, Japan, etc, and over and over, most of the K-6 are BEHIND American student. It appears that around 6-8, we are similar. It is in high school where we appear to fall behind, but not really. In all of the other nations, they spit the kids out in our high school arena. Most of them will not go to college so start working on learning simple skills such as shop, construction, home-ec, cooking, etc. America USED to be like that. We need to return to that. In those levels, teach things like how to use a 3D printer. Likewise, how to use other tools. etc.
But, Comp Sci at grade school is a waste. Far better to get kids through algebra by say 8-9th grade.
What is really needed is for the feds to spend some of that storage money on new molten thorium salt reactors that can convert nearly all of the 'waste' into fuel. In fact, I wonder if we could build a conversion unit into several rail-road cars that would allow on-site processing and then move to a new site.
Regardless, all of these short term solutions are SO wasteful, while ignoring better long-term solutions.
While I appreciate that Obama is pushing for a solution on the illegals (which if done right, will also solve the minimum wage issues), he also needs to focus on his 'all of the above' that he spoke about WRT energy.
Seriously, what matters is the relative MPG. The fact is, that the owners driving conditions will change the true MPG.
BUT, knowing that something is rated at say 30 MPG vs. 40 MPG using the same car that I would buy (i.e. nothing rigged by the makers), will make a difference.
Of course, a number of us are moving from MPG to MPC (miles per charge).
Considering that the 2707 (or SST) was based on the XB-70, which in fact, not only flew, but would have been manufactured except for the shooting down of gary powers, neither of these aircrafts would be on the worst.
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Spoken by somebody that has not a clue about exploration.
No, I would say that the sufferer is yourself.
You neo-con/tea-party type continue to push us towards the SLS as well as going to the moon, while ignoring real facts.
O has kept private space going. O did NOT come up with the asteroids, but it was NASA that came forward with the Idea. He is simply supporting it.
And why is he supporting it? Because it accomplishes multiple things. The first is how to move an asteroid that COULD be on a collision course for the earth. BUT, it can also mean moving a small-medium asteroid to earth, to enable processing of various elements.
And of course, it means surviving in BEO for sometime.
And what your type ignores is the fact that Bigelow wants to go to the moon in the smart way. Likewise, Musk wants to go to mars in the same smart way. IOW, they are trying to offer up the shovels, homes, and rides to nations, which is where the real money is.
Sadly, you neo-cons continue to destroy private space while pushing your massively expensive nightmare, without a thought of the future.
And can you quit fellating McNerney and Gass long enough to look at real facts?
Not in terms of % of world GDP. In that term, America was MUCH bigger.
Not just SpaceX, but Bigelow and Blue Origin.
The fact is, that to get to the moon and mars, we need multiple companies that can compete but also provide redunancy.
Sadly, the GOP is intent on killing off private space. Even the tea* are allowing the neo-cons to pull this shit.
For example, Shelby is DESPERATE to kill private space. He and othe rest of the GOP would rather spend 3-4 billion / year for the next 20 years building the SLS AND SEND ANOTHER 2B TO PUTIN then invest less than 2B into American businesses to get this going.
For those of you who live in these states with these senators, please write them and tell them to stop this BS.
Seriously, what is needed is to require TIGHT regulations on companies that do this kind of BS. If they make agreements like this, then the feds should tax those companies for those areas. In fact, they should be able to limit the profits from those areas to say no more than 5%/year.
The reason is simple. With competition, each company has incentives to invest to keep customers happy. Without it, and esp. when prevented by those companies, then they have NO incentive to invest. So, by keeping profit for that region to below 5% (if not 3%)/year, then they have a strong incentive to invest to offer more amenities (i.e. more revenue to increase the profits), OR allow competition to come.
Regardless, this kind of BS is killing America. It is disgusting that companies are doing this, but understandable. What is REALLY disgusting, is that cities go along with this BS, and do not put time limits on it.
Get ppl to learn it, so that they do not have to train them.
In addition, if they give it away, but block their competitors, it means that they have a leg up.
Of course, many of their competitors are using OSS, so.....
They are developing the largest rocket on their own, called the FH. It has 3 cores similar to what delta IV has. However, they will also have x-over that gives them 33% more cargo. Nobody has done this. In addition, they are building MCT which will launch 150-200 tonnes to Leo. That will be the world's largest ever. In addition to using their X-over, they will be using the first production methane engines. Note that FH happens next year and MCT is expected around 2018. And that is all out of their money.
So, spaceX is a welfare queen. Hmmm. .5B into them for a human launcher. Note that we have already paid Russia over 1.5B to Launch to the ISS, and for the next 2 years, will pay more than .5B. IOW, we are funding Russia's space launches, while ppl like you scream that we are spending too much on our own private companies.
We have invested less than 1B into SpaceX via COTS. In return, America now has a launch system that is the cheapest in the world. In addition, the company now employes 3000+ ppl, and will launch the Falcon heavy in less than 12 months, and it will be the worlds largest biggest launcher (again, the cheapest).
Now, we have invested less than
Finally, as to innovation, you are right that they were not innovative. However, they are the now the first group that has ever successfully brought down a stage to the earth without it being destroyed (the ocean destroyed it AFTER it 'landed'). The Dragon is loaded with a number of new innovations that go well beyond anything ever done. At this time, SpaceX is ahead of the game and now rates as one of the most innovative space groups going.
And you will note that NONE of that includes raptor or MCT, or the X-over on FH.
The interesting thing is NOT that 4 companies are building access to space. The interesting thing is that space is doing it for a fraction of what gov does. For example, Russia charges 70 million / seat. But spaceX will charge 20 million. In addition, once f9r and dragon rider are landing on land, then cost will drop to 10-15 million . IOW, private space is making the moon and mars possible.
Can not collect it, BUT, that does not mean that it will not be owed. Basically, once a real solution (such as MTS) is sought and all can agree on, then they will have to pay it back, though I suspect without interest.
Actually, you would have about 6% of what we have and it would be so low energy that it would be pretty much safe after 200 years, rather than 20,000 years.
wow. I thought it was over 100 B? Only 25B? That sux. Still, with say 10B from it invested into MST along with reprocessing of the waste, it would enable our nuke copmpanies to not only make a profit, but remove their waste.
Considering that we have some odd 100's of billions for nuke storage (supposedly), I would say lets invest that into pushing MTS reactors. That way, less than 6% of 'waste' has to be dealt with.
Math is a sore point for America these days.
I had calculus in 9th grade, but that was in the 70s. Now, I have seen poorer school districts cut out most math beyond 6th grade to focus on teaching the illegals english. BUT, in the average k-6, we are well above other nations. Even our testing shows that, since we test EVERYBODY starting in 3rd, while most other nations only test at around 10-12th grade. Heck, China and India test less than 10% of their kids and all of those are their top students. And the kids that come here from those other nations are the BEST OF THE BEST that they have to offer. So, do not feel so bad.
All of which a nation like CHina would want. They will not go after houston, esp. not in the first round.
Piper, plenty of dark money being spent on drones these days.
There will be a mach 10 bomber by 2025.
Well, first off, Houston will not be first. They do not have enough military right there. BUT, they will be in the second wave and yes, the chinese WILL use multiple waves.
As to not being fond of them, well, that is why we need them. The last thing that we want to do is lower the count to say 1000 missiles, esp. since China is obviously building many more and trying to keep it quiet.
Yes, they bombed weddings and goats.
Of course, there were AQ there in all cases, though many choose to ignore the fact that AQ warriors like to surround themselves with innocent ppl and goats so as to spread the death.
Well, the B1 is NOT likely going to replace the B-52. Instead, it will be hyper-sonic drones flying at mach 10 or more around 2025.
Actually, nearly all can. However, when you have a 5 year slump and you go through one of hardest recessions/depression, you burn it all up in the first year or two.
Skip the focus on fucking Comp. Sci.
America has, overall, great schools in the k-6 realm. I have seen kids come from Germany, Austria, China, Sweden, Britain, Thailand, Japan, etc, and over and over, most of the K-6 are BEHIND American student. It appears that around 6-8, we are similar. It is in high school where we appear to fall behind, but not really. In all of the other nations, they spit the kids out in our high school arena. Most of them will not go to college so start working on learning simple skills such as shop, construction, home-ec, cooking, etc. America USED to be like that. We need to return to that. In those levels, teach things like how to use a 3D printer. Likewise, how to use other tools. etc.
But, Comp Sci at grade school is a waste. Far better to get kids through algebra by say 8-9th grade.
What is really needed is for the feds to spend some of that storage money on new molten thorium salt reactors that can convert nearly all of the 'waste' into fuel. In fact, I wonder if we could build a conversion unit into several rail-road cars that would allow on-site processing and then move to a new site.
Regardless, all of these short term solutions are SO wasteful, while ignoring better long-term solutions.
While I appreciate that Obama is pushing for a solution on the illegals (which if done right, will also solve the minimum wage issues), he also needs to focus on his 'all of the above' that he spoke about WRT energy.
Seriously, what matters is the relative MPG. The fact is, that the owners driving conditions will change the true MPG.
BUT, knowing that something is rated at say 30 MPG vs. 40 MPG using the same car that I would buy (i.e. nothing rigged by the makers), will make a difference.
Of course, a number of us are moving from MPG to MPC (miles per charge).
Considering that the 2707 (or SST) was based on the XB-70, which in fact, not only flew, but would have been manufactured except for the shooting down of gary powers, neither of these aircrafts would be on the worst.