Right now, most of all the western electronics come from China. As such, it makes it trivial for the CHinese gov. to do whatever they like.
It is long past time for these western companies to bring back production.
At the same time, they need to OSS the firmware so that others will feel comfortable with buying these, knowing that they can get true secured systems.
And yet, this is made in China, by chinese ownership, without other companies knowing about it.
Are you really claiming that Chinese gov. is helping NSA spy?
Not bloody likely.
We really do not have that option.
The problem in America is that we USED to have 3rd parties that at least put pressures on the pubs/dems to keep them moderates.
However, when Poppa Bush lost due to Perot, the GOP announced that they would no longer allow 3rd parties to debate, and they would no longer use the league of women voters. Sadly, the fucking dems went along with the fascists.
So, now America has either idiots with the dems, or fascists with the gop.
LOL. under dem presidents, deficits always drop, since Johnson. OTOH, every GOP (republicans and neo-cons alike) president starting with nixon, has caused massive deficits that increase every year.
Apparently, you neo-cons/tea* are not capable of math or facts.
Actually, we are getting ready to buy a tesla, and we have solar solar city. We will use the SC to run the house and charge the car. When the net drops, not an issue. It makes for a wonderful back-up generator.
Look, these MBA's always chase the sure short-term dollar for a tactical idea, that leaves them with plenty of money, while disregarding long-term strategies. AE is a utilities best friend. Instead, utilities should be pushing to have a clean separation of power vs. grid. In addition, they themselves should focus on storing the energy and selling it back.
Finally, if these utilities Executives had HALF a brain, they would realize that electric cars are about to come and they can make a killing on these since the majority will charge at night. As such, they can drop the expensive on-demand systems, and focus on lowering their costs to generation.
Hmmm. Just found the answer. it is landing 200 KM east, and 500 KM south, which would make it the blake plateau. I do have to say that while the blake is relatively shallow (500 M), I do not think that we have old rigs there. The rigs that are off the florida shore were done in the 60-80 and I believe remained on the shelf, which stops at around 100 KM.
And you are correct. If they have to reverse the direction, then it might be better to come back to land.
OTOH, once texas is a launch site, it might make a lot of sense to use the old rigs in the gulf. Plenty of them.
Normally, I scream about the neo-cons/tea*. BUT, to be fair, it is the house republican party that is causing the issues. Interestingly, the tea* speaks for private space, but they continue to support the SLS and taking money from private space.
And Dana, Like Dr. Griffin, has done wonders for private space. He would be a strong supporter of it even if it was not in his district.
And Giffords, along with the dem from Maryland that pushes the NGT, Have been the only 2 dems that have been hostile towards private space. In general, dems have supported BOTH SLS and Private space. Now, to be honest, I view the neo-cons/tea* as being the worst approach for trying to kill off private space, BUT, the dems are just wasting money and are gutless wonders. Make no mistake. Just because I speak out against neo-cons/tea*, does not mean that I support the idiot dems.
And sald, private spaceflight is our best way to not only drop the price of cost to space, but also to turn space into a money maker. That is why I continue to push for federal support of Bigelow Aerospace. They can build a space station in LEO with say 6-8 ppl on-board (ideally, NASA will have 2 ppl on it), and then land a base on the moon by 2020. I have NO DOUBT that if we have a base on the moon in which just about any nation will be allowed there, then private space will make a tonne of money. Just about every nation will want to spend the 50-100 million to put one of their own on the moon for say 2-4 months.
I had not thought about it, but you are right. Dragon is really at the same place that the first flight of the shuttle was. Yeah, some changes have to be made, but nothing major. Great point. Glad somebody modded you up
Now, if the house pubs would quit spending billions on the Russians and would instead support American businesses, SpaceX could be not just ready in under 6 months, but the safest craft to have ever launched.
The orbiters around sat, cassini, was launched in late 90's. The mission to pluto was launched in 2006. Curiosity it about the size of a VW bug, not an SUV.
BUT, these have costs BILLIONS. In order to sustain our exploration, we must lower the costs of this. SpaceX is about to do that. For example, red dragon will make it possible to put the largest lander on the planet, loaded with instruments.
Well, SPaceX's F9 currently has the world's best record of 100% success (though one 2nd ary payload failed, but that was due to NASA not allowing a longer burn time). As such, I know that I would be happy to ride F9 up.
Heck, by the time that dragon rider launches next year with humans, F9 will have gone up more than 20 x. I think that it more then enough.
Hmmm. in the next 12 months, SpaceX will have the world's largest launcher. They will launch 54 tonnes to LEO for less than 150 million. NO other launcher that carries more than 10 tonnes to LEO, costs under 200 million. AND, the next largest one, is Delta IV with less than 23 tonnes. In fact, it will be the world's 4th largest lifter.
In addition, SpaceX will also be launching 7 ppl into space, for less than what Russia charges to send 2 ppl.
SpaceX will in less than 2 years, be able to drop their prices by more than 1/3, which will stimulate their launch business by an easy doubling.
Finally, SpaceX has MCT being worked on, which according to them, will send up 150-200 tonnes to LEO for less than.5B, or less than what SLS costs.
Well, it's theoretically less expensive, but not yet. If you extrapolate out 50 missions, you start seeing SpaceX making an actual profit instead of a projected profit based on a fee stream.
Hmmm. Russia would charge us 200 million to launch progress to the ISS with 2.3 tonnes and no return.
SpaceX charges us 120 million to launch dragon with 3.3 tonnes up and 2.5 tonnes back.
And Russia WAS the cheapest going.
So, yeah, I would say that it is in fact, less expensive.
Actually, as long as you are willing to skip the launch abort system, dragon rider would be ready within 1-2 months to launch humans. In addition, in under 2 months, they could put a craft up to the ISS and return westerners if Russia were to strand us.
And if the house republicans will quit trying to gut CCxDev, SpaceX will launch humans within 12 months.
Well, obviously, u are moderating, and are afraid to put your real name down, but I would have to say that the original poster was spot on, since that is exactly what has been going on. The house republicans have worked to gut American human launch.
Keep in mind that Griffin persuaded a republican congress to support COTS for cargo delivery. Now, it was O that keeps this, along with human launch systems, going, though house republicans are working to kill off the HUMAN LAUNCH portion, not the cargo.
Yes, the house republicans have had NO ISSUES with send 2B to Russia to launch humans, but they object to spending 1B to create 3 American companies that can/will launch humans. Why? Because it will compete against their SLS.
What is amazing is that the house republicans would support Communists and invasions of other nations, then to support our own American companies.
Why do you neo-cons scream against private space when it is not in your district, and this is a fraction of the costs of your SLS solution?
You scream about the profits on this, and yet, $/KG is less than what Russia, OSC, Shuttle, SLS, Atlas, Delta, Ariane 5, China, etc would charge. IOW, this is working the way it is supposed to by lowering the costs of space travel.
So, what do you neo-cons/tea* types have against private space? Seriously.
That is just one of the issues. The real issue is that the barge would be worthless in the conditions that they just had. In fact, with 5' swells, nearly all barges would be worthless.
BUT, a fix platform like one of the old oil rigs would do JUST fine. First, they are fixed,. Secondly, most will be able to withstand the load of an empty falcon 9 first stage (most weight was the fuel combined with the second stage and payload ).
Really? what algorithms did we develop for landing on either a platform or land that deals with say 100 MPH winds, and dealing with 1G? And if developed in the 50's, then why did the lunar landings not use them? Likewise, why bother with having these competition here on earth for landing? Seems to me that the simple physics equations for dealing with gravity, are well known, but controlling a lander while dealing with wind, rain, storms, etc is quite a different thing. And yes, landing on the moon is VERY easy. BUT, landing on mars, earth, venus, or any planet or moon will be difficult due to side issues, and dealing with it.
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These should not be associated with Comp. Sci programs, but with engineering, and start-up programs. There are ways to make this happen in schools.
If you are working for a wage or salary in a company that is not an ESOP, or is ran by an MBA known for outsourcing, you're losing at capitalism.
Right now, most of all the western electronics come from China. As such, it makes it trivial for the CHinese gov. to do whatever they like.
It is long past time for these western companies to bring back production.
At the same time, they need to OSS the firmware so that others will feel comfortable with buying these, knowing that they can get true secured systems.
And for the Chinese gov. who almost certainly knew about it.
And yet, this is made in China, by chinese ownership, without other companies knowing about it.
Are you really claiming that Chinese gov. is helping NSA spy?
Not bloody likely.
We really do not have that option.
The problem in America is that we USED to have 3rd parties that at least put pressures on the pubs/dems to keep them moderates.
However, when Poppa Bush lost due to Perot, the GOP announced that they would no longer allow 3rd parties to debate, and they would no longer use the league of women voters. Sadly, the fucking dems went along with the fascists.
So, now America has either idiots with the dems, or fascists with the gop.
LOL. under dem presidents, deficits always drop, since Johnson. OTOH, every GOP (republicans and neo-cons alike) president starting with nixon, has caused massive deficits that increase every year.
Apparently, you neo-cons/tea* are not capable of math or facts.
Actually, we are getting ready to buy a tesla, and we have solar solar city. We will use the SC to run the house and charge the car. When the net drops, not an issue. It makes for a wonderful back-up generator.
Actually, that was the CA solution. And then the texans, found out how to do texas-style accounting, and manipulation of the markets.
Look, these MBA's always chase the sure short-term dollar for a tactical idea, that leaves them with plenty of money, while disregarding long-term strategies.
AE is a utilities best friend. Instead, utilities should be pushing to have a clean separation of power vs. grid. In addition, they themselves should focus on storing the energy and selling it back.
Finally, if these utilities Executives had HALF a brain, they would realize that electric cars are about to come and they can make a killing on these since the majority will charge at night. As such, they can drop the expensive on-demand systems, and focus on lowering their costs to generation.
Hmmm. Just found the answer. it is landing 200 KM east, and 500 KM south, which would make it the blake plateau. I do have to say that while the blake is relatively shallow (500 M), I do not think that we have old rigs there. The rigs that are off the florida shore were done in the 60-80 and I believe remained on the shelf, which stops at around 100 KM.
And you are correct. If they have to reverse the direction, then it might be better to come back to land.
OTOH, once texas is a launch site, it might make a lot of sense to use the old rigs in the gulf. Plenty of them.
Normally, I scream about the neo-cons/tea*. BUT, to be fair, it is the house republican party that is causing the issues. Interestingly, the tea* speaks for private space, but they continue to support the SLS and taking money from private space.
And Dana, Like Dr. Griffin, has done wonders for private space. He would be a strong supporter of it even if it was not in his district.
And Giffords, along with the dem from Maryland that pushes the NGT, Have been the only 2 dems that have been hostile towards private space. In general, dems have supported BOTH SLS and Private space. Now, to be honest, I view the neo-cons/tea* as being the worst approach for trying to kill off private space, BUT, the dems are just wasting money and are gutless wonders. Make no mistake. Just because I speak out against neo-cons/tea*, does not mean that I support the idiot dems.
And sald, private spaceflight is our best way to not only drop the price of cost to space, but also to turn space into a money maker. That is why I continue to push for federal support of Bigelow Aerospace. They can build a space station in LEO with say 6-8 ppl on-board (ideally, NASA will have 2 ppl on it), and then land a base on the moon by 2020. I have NO DOUBT that if we have a base on the moon in which just about any nation will be allowed there, then private space will make a tonne of money. Just about every nation will want to spend the 50-100 million to put one of their own on the moon for say 2-4 months.
I had not thought about it, but you are right. Dragon is really at the same place that the first flight of the shuttle was. Yeah, some changes have to be made, but nothing major. Great point. Glad somebody modded you up
Now, if the house pubs would quit spending billions on the Russians and would instead support American businesses, SpaceX could be not just ready in under 6 months, but the safest craft to have ever launched.
why be sarcastic when the gnat was spot on? No reason to be.
The orbiters around sat, cassini, was launched in late 90's. The mission to pluto was launched in 2006. Curiosity it about the size of a VW bug, not an SUV.
BUT, these have costs BILLIONS. In order to sustain our exploration, we must lower the costs of this. SpaceX is about to do that. For example, red dragon will make it possible to put the largest lander on the planet, loaded with instruments.
Well, SPaceX's F9 currently has the world's best record of 100% success (though one 2nd ary payload failed, but that was due to NASA not allowing a longer burn time). As such, I know that I would be happy to ride F9 up.
Heck, by the time that dragon rider launches next year with humans, F9 will have gone up more than 20 x. I think that it more then enough.
Hmmm. in the next 12 months, SpaceX will have the world's largest launcher. They will launch 54 tonnes to LEO for less than 150 million. NO other launcher that carries more than 10 tonnes to LEO, costs under 200 million. AND, the next largest one, is Delta IV with less than 23 tonnes. In fact, it will be the world's 4th largest lifter.
.5B, or less than what SLS costs.
In addition, SpaceX will also be launching 7 ppl into space, for less than what Russia charges to send 2 ppl.
SpaceX will in less than 2 years, be able to drop their prices by more than 1/3, which will stimulate their launch business by an easy doubling.
Finally, SpaceX has MCT being worked on, which according to them, will send up 150-200 tonnes to LEO for less than
And you do not think that is exciting. Really?
Well, it's theoretically less expensive, but not yet. If you extrapolate out 50 missions, you start seeing SpaceX making an actual profit instead of a projected profit based on a fee stream.
Hmmm. Russia would charge us 200 million to launch progress to the ISS with 2.3 tonnes and no return.
SpaceX charges us 120 million to launch dragon with 3.3 tonnes up and 2.5 tonnes back.
And Russia WAS the cheapest going.
So, yeah, I would say that it is in fact, less expensive.
This is 100% correct. The vast majority of ISS, shuttle, etc. was in fact done by NASA. Of course, that left the hard work to the private industry.
Actually, as long as you are willing to skip the launch abort system, dragon rider would be ready within 1-2 months to launch humans. In addition, in under 2 months, they could put a craft up to the ISS and return westerners if Russia were to strand us.
And if the house republicans will quit trying to gut CCxDev, SpaceX will launch humans within 12 months.
Well, obviously, u are moderating, and are afraid to put your real name down, but I would have to say that the original poster was spot on, since that is exactly what has been going on. The house republicans have worked to gut American human launch.
Keep in mind that Griffin persuaded a republican congress to support COTS for cargo delivery. Now, it was O that keeps this, along with human launch systems, going, though house republicans are working to kill off the HUMAN LAUNCH portion, not the cargo.
Yes, the house republicans have had NO ISSUES with send 2B to Russia to launch humans, but they object to spending 1B to create 3 American companies that can/will launch humans. Why? Because it will compete against their SLS.
What is amazing is that the house republicans would support Communists and invasions of other nations, then to support our own American companies.
Why do you neo-cons scream against private space when it is not in your district, and this is a fraction of the costs of your SLS solution?
You scream about the profits on this, and yet, $/KG is less than what Russia, OSC, Shuttle, SLS, Atlas, Delta, Ariane 5, China, etc would charge. IOW, this is working the way it is supposed to by lowering the costs of space travel.
So, what do you neo-cons/tea* types have against private space? Seriously.
That is just one of the issues. The real issue is that the barge would be worthless in the conditions that they just had. In fact, with 5' swells, nearly all barges would be worthless.
BUT, a fix platform like one of the old oil rigs would do JUST fine. First, they are fixed,. Secondly, most will be able to withstand the load of an empty falcon 9 first stage (most weight was the fuel combined with the second stage and payload ).
Really? what algorithms did we develop for landing on either a platform or land that deals with say 100 MPH winds, and dealing with 1G? And if developed in the 50's, then why did the lunar landings not use them? Likewise, why bother with having these competition here on earth for landing? Seems to me that the simple physics equations for dealing with gravity, are well known, but controlling a lander while dealing with wind, rain, storms, etc is quite a different thing. And yes, landing on the moon is VERY easy. BUT, landing on mars, earth, venus, or any planet or moon will be difficult due to side issues, and dealing with it.