what writeoffs and deals did they get from KCK/KCMO?
Also, I suspect that Google has bought LOADS of dark fiber all over the USA.
And what basis do you have for saying that they are here to screw over others? I do not buy it. I think that they are trying to keep from getting screwed by ATT, verizon, etc.
You obviously never worked in the industry or for qwest. Google for 'ATT Verizon qwest telecom goverment contract'. There is a GOOD reason why they got the contracts. Now, had you read the story in the DP AND knew what was going on, then you would know that Qwest denied the FBI the ability to look up from a person to a line without a warrant. IOW, this was ONLY about the FBI and only in one direction.
This is similar to why Google was booted from China, while MS and Yahoo, and Apple are VERY welcomed there, by the Chinese Communist Gov. Google has refused over and over and over to give up our information to the govs. without proper warrents, etc. Hell, you can not even buy from Google YOUR infomation. BUT, I CAN buy it from MS or Apple assuming that you use a windows or apple box.
Google has loads of money. However, they are threatened by EVERYBODY. Every nation wants a BIG cut of them. They all want taxes. Likewise, server hosters want Google to pay them to access those boxes. ISPs esp. ATT and Comcast have threatened to charge Google money to allow users to access Google. All in all, You have everybody wanting to pull the profits out of Google and is being aided by govs.
So, what they are doing is investing those profits back into fibers. They fully intend to continue this. Many many ppl are going to put servers on the net. Watch Austin carefully. My guess is that the next place will be Boulder Co/Denver Basin, Mass, or possibly San Fran.
Google is looking long-term at their profits and is making a VERY smart move. This is not about getting ISPs to upgrade. It is about getting them out of the way or at the very least, being able to keep them from cutting them out.
Google has some of the brightest ppl going, and it continues to show.
Pretty much any that doesn't involve government-enforced monopolies. Just imagine how much worse buying gasoline would be if certain companies purchased rights to supply all gasoline to individual cities, locking out competition.
Got news for you. what is going on is an Oligarchy spread across the world and even in America. You need a refinery. Well, those are controlled by a surprisingly small number of companies. In addition, Exon and other buy up drilling bids and then sit on them for decades. Why? Because they are blocking out the competition. You will note that Natural Gas is DIRT cheap. Why? Because very little processing and unable to be controlled by the big players. As such, NG costs 1/10 the price of gas/diesel per MMBTU.
You will also note that it was the neo-cons that killed the bill that would have encourage truckers and cars to move to NG. Even now, the republican leaders are hopping mad at states that are pushing NG. Yet, from a national POV (trade deficits; lowering prices; etc), and cleaning up emission(NG has a fraction of the pollution of gas or diesel), that bill made sense.
Actually, we do. BUT, it is duplicated in places like China, and as long as China is allowed to manipulate their money and defy all of the WTO and USA-China treaty, then it will continue to be duplicated or moved to China.
Our executives have been offshoring all of our technology. As such, all we did was move this company over to China who using our technology, some stolen, but far too much was given. Just for a few dollars.
Before the GD, we allowed executives to own stock. As such, many of our companies were short-sighted and we had crashed every 20 years or so. Since 1933 when the no-executive-own-stock was put in place, the companies switched to long-term focus and we had massive economic expansion. It was after reagan rolled that EO out and allowed executives to own stock that we have seen nothing but short-term focus. It has nothing to do with profits. It all has to do with stock manipulations. Look at GE, IBM, and HP. They have done massive damage to themselves via CEOs that look short-term. Heck, an even better example is American Airliens. They did great under Bob Crandall. Under the next 2 CEOs, the companies was bankrupted. Why? Because the executives had loads of stock and pushed for short-term manipulation that ran up the stock price at which point the executive sold much of their stocks, while waiting for more.
What is needed is for an EMPLOYEE STOCK. One that is tied to profits, and is not allowed to be sold on the open markets. Yes, basically, an ESOP. However, they need to make it so that NO employee is allowed to own any public stock in the industry.
So many of american companies scream free enterprise, but rarely take notice of the fact that other companies are nationalistic or simply in control of their future. For american executives, it is all about short-term profits since they own stock.
I will pay u (sic) a dime for every system that currently has 4t&q for password, if u (sic) pay me a penny for those with 1234 password.
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I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
You seem to prefer the "u" in other places as well.
LOL. I was on a smart phone for that one, and wanted to type in as little as possible, but good point.
Uhm. No. This is not designed to blind them. Get hit in the head by it and blinding is not a problem. And both Russia and China currently run lasers on various equipment and the ground.
Add in some small railguns. The navy is working on making the projectiles be smart rather than dumb.That would allow each projectile to target a different boat/plane.
They need to put in place a 8-16 Mjoules railgun on the destroyers. It does not need to go far. This would only do about 5-10 miles or so.
HOWEVER, it can be used against approaching boats, planes, etc. And with Iran's developments, they are working towards a multiple strategy on attacks. In particular, small fast boats will allow them to get in close, if the ship is busy with planes, missiles, rockets, etc. And with a small railgun, they can test high-speed production on it. Heck, if they get a small one with say 4-8 MJoules, then it would be possible for the Army to mount it on a M1A1 and replace the main gun.
447 was so many factors were EVERYTHING went wrong. Tired captain that was just woke up right at the tail-end of issues. You had a junior FO along with an even more junior IO (weird that AF allows such junior pilots on international routes rather than keeping them domestic in Europe). Then you had no feedback going to the FO so that the IO who was losing it was actually killing the speed. That downage was a case of so many thing that could wrong, and they did. Sad.
Yes, but is not Airbus's outsourcing mostly in Europe or is it global?
And yeah, Boeing's 'outsourcing' to date was just local companies, not the BS that price was trying to claim. But it would be to Boeing's benefit to focus on automating production rather than on outsourcing like they have. Sadly, the Boeing execs were horrible over the last decade. Even now, the same set of bozo's are missing the boat with private space.
And yet, all of those issues were from the 50-70's design: the early days of pressurized commercial aircraft. The only aircraft that has had a real issue since then, has been Airbus with their lack of feedback to the pilots. They do not know what the other or the CPU is doing with it. That is why American grounded their Airbus A300's. Even now, American is apparently in discussions with Airbus on getting pilot feedback, but they want it for free. Airbus is saying otherwise, so it remains to be see what is going to happen. Considering that AA is coming out of a bankruptcy and this being funded freely by Europe govs (weird), I suspect that Parker will let it go through.
Nope. First off, the design was NOT outsourced. Only manufacturing. Secondly, the 'blueprints' used by Boeing is Catia. That can do conversions, etc. Third, Boeing wanted LOADS of oversights. There was a battle within the company as well as 'partners' over this. Boeing is one for maintaining STRICT oversight. All of their local partners in Seattle (and in America) have Boeing with loads of oversight. They check EVERYTHING. That is why Boeing's have a top reputation. The 787 is...... well, like a GE lightbulb, it has their name on it. I doubt that Boeing will EVER do this much outsourcing ever again. But that will depend on how much pressure Airbus puts on them by outsourcing as well. Apparently, Airbus wants to follow this pattern so as to sell more of their 350s. I think that are crazy if they go down that path, but that is their choice.
Total BS.
The way Boeing aircraft design has always worked is that engineers come up with CATIA designs that craftsman start implementing. As this is put together, the engineers crawl in and amongst the air frame and checks how things will go. I assume that Airbus does the same. Many times, parts get re-engineered as the engineers play with them and see what happens. In this case, it was because of the outsourcing that they could NOT do things that way. It was basically, a waterfall approach to design rather than iterative approach.
Now, who forced this? The executives who outsource 50% of the aircraft. How much is normally outsourced? Less than 10% of a Boeing aircraft is outsourced beyond the plant and the local companies. And when it came to the airframe, NONE of it was outsourced in the past (save fasteners and metal, but all was local production so that Boeing could keep control of it). This was the FIRST time that Boeing has outsourced anything out of their control WRT airframe. The problem was NOT that the fasteners were not aircraft grade. The outsourcing was.
The issue was that Boeing's engineers were used to their mechanics BUT, they were dealing with mechanics in China, japan, etc. And over there, they did NOT understand how to do countersunk on specific dimensions by the instructions that the engineers gave them. Basically, the engineer and mechanics at Boeing had worked together for so long, that it showed a weakness in how information is passed. So, correct fasteners, BUT, the holes were every so slighting mis-aligned due to inferior craftsmanship overseas.
You mention the electrical panel fire which would be the P100. That was a piece that was outsourced to a subsidiary of EADS. They left a wrench inside that caused the fire when it shorted.
The side of body issue with a problem with Fuju heavy's inability to do the work in the same way that Boeing was used to. So now, when the stringers come in from fuji, sections are cut away by Boeing, with the exception of one stringer. In that case, it is carrying an extra 25-50 some odd kgs. Does not sound like Much, but Boeing (and companies like Airbus) work on getting kgs knocked off.
Basically, EVERY major issue was an outsource issue. It had to do with a lack of communication, combined with a different level of craftsmanship, and carefulness. Now, you appear to not want to look at facts, and that is fine. However, you have no rights to make up stuff that you obvious do NOT know.
They found out. What is being looked at, is how to address it quickly, while they work on the long term solution. FAA is a BITCH to get things through. It can take years for changes. As such, what is needed is a re-working of the battery system with loads of testing. The patch that went in, pretty much guarentees that if ANYTHING goes wrong with this battery, the plane is safe. Ideally, it would be used even with say a tesla battery system.
Exactly. Basically, the battery is now in a fireproof box with a door that opens to the outside. IOW, any explosion will send it OUT of the plane, not inside. What is interesting is that the normal way for a pressured aircraft's door open is INWARD. That way, the door is secured and incapable of opening when under pressure. THis door opens outwards. If pressure builds up, their is a check value to vent it to the outside. If it explodes, then the blast blows the door and the energy is directed outward.
Exactly. In fact, where American went to, is the same place that most of the Chinese national airlines, ESP. CHINA AIRLINES (worst record GOING) use. They have had issue after issue after issue. And with those seats, Horton was busy blaming the unions and then it turned out that it was the Chinese group.
This is no different than the AA flights that fly the Latin American routes, Either Carty or Aprey had started using the Colombian base for those aircraft's. Then they have seen a rash of accidents that was attributed to the pilots. Consider AA's rigorous flight training (unless they have changed that over the last 20 years), I seriously doubt that it was pilot error.
I know that US Airways uses the Colombian base as well, BUT, I am hopeful that Parker will move from the Chinese maintenance to Colombian, or better yet, bring back the base that was just shut down in Sept. Heck, Parker learned under Crandal so it would be nice if he takes it back to how he ran the airline. Heck, he would be smart to create an airline that is nothing but a single class of business class and run it on the profitable routes that has plenty of traffic. Then convert the first class on all of the domestics to have the same seats and fringes as that airline has. With such an approach, I think that they could capture what AA (and other US national airlines) was.
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what writeoffs and deals did they get from KCK/KCMO?
Also, I suspect that Google has bought LOADS of dark fiber all over the USA.
And what basis do you have for saying that they are here to screw over others? I do not buy it. I think that they are trying to keep from getting screwed by ATT, verizon, etc.
You obviously never worked in the industry or for qwest. Google for 'ATT Verizon qwest telecom goverment contract'. There is a GOOD reason why they got the contracts. Now, had you read the story in the DP AND knew what was going on, then you would know that Qwest denied the FBI the ability to look up from a person to a line without a warrant. IOW, this was ONLY about the FBI and only in one direction.
This is similar to why Google was booted from China, while MS and Yahoo, and Apple are VERY welcomed there, by the Chinese Communist Gov. Google has refused over and over and over to give up our information to the govs. without proper warrents, etc. Hell, you can not even buy from Google YOUR infomation. BUT, I CAN buy it from MS or Apple assuming that you use a windows or apple box.
Google has loads of money. However, they are threatened by EVERYBODY. Every nation wants a BIG cut of them. They all want taxes. Likewise, server hosters want Google to pay them to access those boxes. ISPs esp. ATT and Comcast have threatened to charge Google money to allow users to access Google. All in all, You have everybody wanting to pull the profits out of Google and is being aided by govs.
So, what they are doing is investing those profits back into fibers. They fully intend to continue this. Many many ppl are going to put servers on the net. Watch Austin carefully. My guess is that the next place will be Boulder Co/Denver Basin, Mass, or possibly San Fran.
Google is looking long-term at their profits and is making a VERY smart move. This is not about getting ISPs to upgrade. It is about getting them out of the way or at the very least, being able to keep them from cutting them out.
Google has some of the brightest ppl going, and it continues to show.
Pretty much any that doesn't involve government-enforced monopolies. Just imagine how much worse buying gasoline would be if certain companies purchased rights to supply all gasoline to individual cities, locking out competition.
Got news for you. what is going on is an Oligarchy spread across the world and even in America. You need a refinery. Well, those are controlled by a surprisingly small number of companies. In addition, Exon and other buy up drilling bids and then sit on them for decades. Why? Because they are blocking out the competition.
You will note that Natural Gas is DIRT cheap. Why? Because very little processing and unable to be controlled by the big players. As such, NG costs 1/10 the price of gas/diesel per MMBTU.
You will also note that it was the neo-cons that killed the bill that would have encourage truckers and cars to move to NG. Even now, the republican leaders are hopping mad at states that are pushing NG. Yet, from a national POV (trade deficits; lowering prices; etc), and cleaning up emission(NG has a fraction of the pollution of gas or diesel), that bill made sense.
LOL; I showed American Basketball League.
Instead, google for 'ABL YAL-1.'
It did not used to be that way at HP. We were focused on long-term operations. From what I hear, what you describe is exactly where they are now.
Actually, we do. BUT, it is duplicated in places like China, and as long as China is allowed to manipulate their money and defy all of the WTO and USA-China treaty, then it will continue to be duplicated or moved to China.
Sometimes, those who lose, will come back to defeat you. Ask Europe how that works out.
Our executives have been offshoring all of our technology. As such, all we did was move this company over to China who using our technology, some stolen, but far too much was given. Just for a few dollars.
Bring on the ABL and take it out.
Likewise, we should launch our minuteman III next day.
Before the GD, we allowed executives to own stock. As such, many of our companies were short-sighted and we had crashed every 20 years or so. Since 1933 when the no-executive-own-stock was put in place, the companies switched to long-term focus and we had massive economic expansion. It was after reagan rolled that EO out and allowed executives to own stock that we have seen nothing but short-term focus. It has nothing to do with profits. It all has to do with stock manipulations. Look at GE, IBM, and HP. They have done massive damage to themselves via CEOs that look short-term. Heck, an even better example is American Airliens. They did great under Bob Crandall. Under the next 2 CEOs, the companies was bankrupted. Why? Because the executives had loads of stock and pushed for short-term manipulation that ran up the stock price at which point the executive sold much of their stocks, while waiting for more.
What is needed is for an EMPLOYEE STOCK. One that is tied to profits, and is not allowed to be sold on the open markets. Yes, basically, an ESOP. However, they need to make it so that NO employee is allowed to own any public stock in the industry.
So many of american companies scream free enterprise, but rarely take notice of the fact that other companies are nationalistic or simply in control of their future. For american executives, it is all about short-term profits since they own stock.
I will pay u (sic) a dime for every system that currently has 4t&q for password, if u (sic) pay me a penny for those with 1234 password. -- I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
You seem to prefer the "u" in other places as well.
LOL. I was on a smart phone for that one, and wanted to type in as little as possible, but good point.
I will pay u a dime for every system that currently has 4t&q for password, if u pay me a penny for those with 1234 password. Deal?
Uhm. No. This is not designed to blind them. Get hit in the head by it and blinding is not a problem. And both Russia and China currently run lasers on various equipment and the ground.
Add in some small railguns. The navy is working on making the projectiles be smart rather than dumb.That would allow each projectile to target a different boat/plane.
They need to put in place a 8-16 Mjoules railgun on the destroyers. It does not need to go far. This would only do about 5-10 miles or so.
HOWEVER, it can be used against approaching boats, planes, etc. And with Iran's developments, they are working towards a multiple strategy on attacks. In particular, small fast boats will allow them to get in close, if the ship is busy with planes, missiles, rockets, etc. And with a small railgun, they can test high-speed production on it. Heck, if they get a small one with say 4-8 MJoules, then it would be possible for the Army to mount it on a M1A1 and replace the main gun.
447 was so many factors were EVERYTHING went wrong. Tired captain that was just woke up right at the tail-end of issues. You had a junior FO along with an even more junior IO (weird that AF allows such junior pilots on international routes rather than keeping them domestic in Europe). Then you had no feedback going to the FO so that the IO who was losing it was actually killing the speed. That downage was a case of so many thing that could wrong, and they did. Sad.
Yes, but is not Airbus's outsourcing mostly in Europe or is it global?
And yeah, Boeing's 'outsourcing' to date was just local companies, not the BS that price was trying to claim. But it would be to Boeing's benefit to focus on automating production rather than on outsourcing like they have. Sadly, the Boeing execs were horrible over the last decade. Even now, the same set of bozo's are missing the boat with private space.
And yet, all of those issues were from the 50-70's design: the early days of pressurized commercial aircraft. The only aircraft that has had a real issue since then, has been Airbus with their lack of feedback to the pilots. They do not know what the other or the CPU is doing with it. That is why American grounded their Airbus A300's. Even now, American is apparently in discussions with Airbus on getting pilot feedback, but they want it for free. Airbus is saying otherwise, so it remains to be see what is going to happen. Considering that AA is coming out of a bankruptcy and this being funded freely by Europe govs (weird), I suspect that Parker will let it go through.
Nope. First off, the design was NOT outsourced. Only manufacturing. Secondly, the 'blueprints' used by Boeing is Catia. That can do conversions, etc. Third, Boeing wanted LOADS of oversights. There was a battle within the company as well as 'partners' over this. Boeing is one for maintaining STRICT oversight. All of their local partners in Seattle (and in America) have Boeing with loads of oversight. They check EVERYTHING. That is why Boeing's have a top reputation. The 787 is ...... well, like a GE lightbulb, it has their name on it. I doubt that Boeing will EVER do this much outsourcing ever again. But that will depend on how much pressure Airbus puts on them by outsourcing as well. Apparently, Airbus wants to follow this pattern so as to sell more of their 350s. I think that are crazy if they go down that path, but that is their choice.
Total BS.
The way Boeing aircraft design has always worked is that engineers come up with CATIA designs that craftsman start implementing. As this is put together, the engineers crawl in and amongst the air frame and checks how things will go. I assume that Airbus does the same. Many times, parts get re-engineered as the engineers play with them and see what happens. In this case, it was because of the outsourcing that they could NOT do things that way. It was basically, a waterfall approach to design rather than iterative approach.
Now, who forced this? The executives who outsource 50% of the aircraft. How much is normally outsourced? Less than 10% of a Boeing aircraft is outsourced beyond the plant and the local companies. And when it came to the airframe, NONE of it was outsourced in the past (save fasteners and metal, but all was local production so that Boeing could keep control of it). This was the FIRST time that Boeing has outsourced anything out of their control WRT airframe. The problem was NOT that the fasteners were not aircraft grade. The outsourcing was.
The issue was that Boeing's engineers were used to their mechanics BUT, they were dealing with mechanics in China, japan, etc. And over there, they did NOT understand how to do countersunk on specific dimensions by the instructions that the engineers gave them. Basically, the engineer and mechanics at Boeing had worked together for so long, that it showed a weakness in how information is passed. So, correct fasteners, BUT, the holes were every so slighting mis-aligned due to inferior craftsmanship overseas.
You mention the electrical panel fire which would be the P100. That was a piece that was outsourced to a subsidiary of EADS. They left a wrench inside that caused the fire when it shorted.
The side of body issue with a problem with Fuju heavy's inability to do the work in the same way that Boeing was used to. So now, when the stringers come in from fuji, sections are cut away by Boeing, with the exception of one stringer. In that case, it is carrying an extra 25-50 some odd kgs. Does not sound like Much, but Boeing (and companies like Airbus) work on getting kgs knocked off.
Basically, EVERY major issue was an outsource issue. It had to do with a lack of communication, combined with a different level of craftsmanship, and carefulness. Now, you appear to not want to look at facts, and that is fine. However, you have no rights to make up stuff that you obvious do NOT know.
They found out. What is being looked at, is how to address it quickly, while they work on the long term solution. FAA is a BITCH to get things through. It can take years for changes. As such, what is needed is a re-working of the battery system with loads of testing. The patch that went in, pretty much guarentees that if ANYTHING goes wrong with this battery, the plane is safe. Ideally, it would be used even with say a tesla battery system.
Exactly. Basically, the battery is now in a fireproof box with a door that opens to the outside. IOW, any explosion will send it OUT of the plane, not inside. What is interesting is that the normal way for a pressured aircraft's door open is INWARD. That way, the door is secured and incapable of opening when under pressure. THis door opens outwards. If pressure builds up, their is a check value to vent it to the outside. If it explodes, then the blast blows the door and the energy is directed outward.
Exactly. In fact, where American went to, is the same place that most of the Chinese national airlines, ESP. CHINA AIRLINES (worst record GOING) use. They have had issue after issue after issue. And with those seats, Horton was busy blaming the unions and then it turned out that it was the Chinese group.
This is no different than the AA flights that fly the Latin American routes, Either Carty or Aprey had started using the Colombian base for those aircraft's. Then they have seen a rash of accidents that was attributed to the pilots. Consider AA's rigorous flight training (unless they have changed that over the last 20 years), I seriously doubt that it was pilot error.
I know that US Airways uses the Colombian base as well, BUT, I am hopeful that Parker will move from the Chinese maintenance to Colombian, or better yet, bring back the base that was just shut down in Sept. Heck, Parker learned under Crandal so it would be nice if he takes it back to how he ran the airline. Heck, he would be smart to create an airline that is nothing but a single class of business class and run it on the profitable routes that has plenty of traffic. Then convert the first class on all of the domestics to have the same seats and fringes as that airline has. With such an approach, I think that they could capture what AA (and other US national airlines) was.