First off, The pilot, walt lux, of that was a close friends of our family. My dad and he would ssched together on the DC-10 of that time. In fact, Walt had allowed me to jump on that particular aircraft.
Secondly, the engine swap was not in the books, BUT ALL of the airlines did it that way. In fact, DC showed many of the companies how to shortcut that. American did NOT develop it.
Third, the Chinese (and other maintenance bases such as the one in Columbia) have screwed up a number of things royally. US Airways has had more than their fair share of issues from the Colombian hub.
In addition, the Chinnese themselves beat their nationalistic drums such as saying that they do not want to be dependant on ANYTHING from the west. Even to this day, unless the work is done in China, they reoutinely block every item. It is only a matter of time before China will raise the tariffs on Tesla and tell them if they will turn over a lot of IP that they will drop it.
It is sad when ppl like you are willing to scream that others are being nationalistic when the fuck-ups make the news, while you ignore and even uphold China's ability to block western goods.
Assume that it catchs fire. That is the SAME assumption that Boeing has made. That is why they not have the battery in the equivalence of a fireproof safe, where there is a value that allows for pressure to spill outwards. IOW, if it explodes or catches fire, it will be directed OUTWARD, not inward. That is safe.
You know, just about any of the commercial crafts are safe. The real issue is how are the airlines doing their maintenance. US airlines used to be the best. Now, they are offshoring and I think that they are an issue. For example, I grew up on American Airlines. BUT, they are now offshoring this to China. Recall the seats that were not fastened? That was the Chinese company. Scary. Very scary.
Give me a break. The plane is solid. And as to this battery, it is in a strong case that vents to the outside. If you are up in the air, then it will go out on its own. If down by the ground, not a problem.
Any real issues with this plane has been the fact that Boeing did NOT build it themselves..Sadly, they allowed their board to be composed of others outside of the aviation industry, who were more business idiots than engineers.
Regardless, I trust the craft, but think that it was expensive. Hopefully, next time, Boeing will revert back to how they do things.
Add the water and all of the rest to it. In addition, you now have to make a unique item per vehicle. OTOH, electric cars have the ability to have plugs outside. Putting one in a trailer hitch area makes life easy.
If you are ANY nation out there, China will spy on you. If you are aligned with China, the west is going to spy on you. If you are a western nation, we tend to not spy on each other (that is not quite accurate either, but close enough).
No, it is not a fuel cell. In this case, it is a CHEMICAL REACTION of water with aluminum. A fuel cell is basically, a catalysts for a fuel and oxidizer. IOW, with a fuel cell, you can continue to run it by inputting fuel/oxidizer. This is not the case.
Seriously, this looks like a great way to range extend electric cars by putting it on a small tow-able trailer, or something that plugs into the rear similar to the trailer hitch carriers.
It is should the WEST limit it? The answer is yes.
It is insane to allow a nation that is undergoing the world's largest military build-up ever seen in history, and who is forcing all of the prices to be artificially low, along with massive tariffs, to put their compromised systems into the West. Heck, even China is bright enough to say no to Western goods into their systems.
Though to be fair, it was L-mart that claimed that 2 orions could go to mars and back. I note that Boeing pushes a new vehicle called the MTV. Basically, their idea of what would be in place of Bigelow's unit.
Sigh.
So, when you have nothing to say intelligently, you resort to trying to put-downs. Okay.
First off, what engineering issues are there with SpaceX vs. say Ares I or Atlas V?
One thing that you should realize is that hand production makes for issues with quality. OTOH, mass production on very accurate automated equipment means reproducability.
Sadly, your own fanbozism is getting in the way of clear thought on this. SpaceX's record is actually not that much different than any others. Yes, they had issues with F1. Of course, that last decade and last rocket, not this decade or this rocket. And most of the issues on F9/Dragon have not been quality or designs, but software. BUT, you will find that Atlas and Delta actually had a number of small issues. At least, I know that the Atlas did. I have friends that worked on it here in Colorado. And they will tell you that they required 3 launches to get it right (and even then they had an issue later on due to too much hand manufacturing). The biggest issue that SpaceX has now, is getting a single stable launcher that has only bug fixes. Supposedly, that is F9 V1.1, but I worry that they will change that after FH. We will see. BUT, the only way to make this work CORRECTLY, is to have a single well tested, well known system without part changes (or at least fully tested part changes). Simple as that.
How is the dragon optimized for LEO? It has the same PICA heat shielding. It has the same large trunk. It does have only 10 m^3, but this was not designed to got to mars on its own. It is designed to hook up with a BA unit or other transhab type item for living in. Its walls are as thick as Orions, with similar composition. Likewise, similar lifesupport. The real issue is consumables, which would be in the BA unit.
OTOH, those like you who push the Orion fail to note that 2 orions going to mars would have less than 40 m^3 of pressurized space, and far too little for 2 ppl to spend 6 months, let alone 12-15 months. They would be at each others throats by the time the mission was done.
As somebody else said, the orion to dragon is ford expedition to a ford explorer comparison. Pretty much the same vehicle, but one is larger. The difference is that the dragon never intended to go it alone, but add 180 m^3 (sundancer) extra space.
So, why do you declare otherwise, when NASA says that this is the case? What do you base it on?
it is a pension plan because most of the money came from Social Security taxes, etc.
What is needed is to return our taxes to sanity and make some other cuts, while doing some smart investments.
That stuff is total BS. The truth is that nations like China and Russia do NOT tell their full budget. In addition, it is already known that China is outspending us in terms of buying ability. Hell, even in terms of their % of GDP. And we had 2 wars going when they passed us in 2005.
Actually, there is very little that is commodity grade hardware with them. They use the same equipment in terms of strength, etc that NASA, L-MART, etc. use. They use the same Al-Li tanks, frames, etc. As far as that go, the dragon and the rest of their system is equal OR BETTER than anything coming our of L-Mart, Boeing, etc.
And in fact, it makes perfectly GOOD sense to take the dragon, make a solid bus internally for equipment to hook to, add antenna on the outside, provide various forms of power (solar and nukes), and then you have a solid system to send to various destinations. They can send to Mars, or Europa. Heck, they can use this for a satellite to send to Jupiter, Saturn, etc. All on the cheap.
And a CHEAP drilling from red dragon is simply a small heated ball using radiation for heat. Then have a FEW small experiments on board (ph; temp; salt; etc). As it drops, it sends a signal back to dragon that relays it back to home or clipper. Regardless, this would be relatively cheap to do. Note that the dragon could take samples above and do a lot more experiments on the ice/ground that it finds. The ball by sending back the small info would then confirm that it is similar composition or something different. Finally, it tells us how far we need to drill.
Red dragon FLOATs. Send it to europa, along with the clipper. Once on the surface a number of experiments can be done and the data sent to clipper or home.
They steal it out in the open. China does it quietly, and refuses to be open about it. BUT, India lets it be known that they will steal and sell it around the world. At this time, all drugs and chemicals should be stopped from nations like China and India. In both cases, they steal patents and then use the manufacturing to create new companies and lower the prices. Then they can dump on the world market.
Yeah, except for the fact that when we IDed a number of bank accounts, China refused to freeze them. So, they agreed with the UN, BUT they have ZERO intentions of keeping their word. That is no different than what they have done for the last 50 years.
Gartner's reports have always been useless. recall back in 94 when they produced a report that said Linux would be at least 2% of all internet servers by the end of the decade when it was already over 25%? It made it look like Linux would never threaten Windows, when in fact, they were already a massive threat.
Basically Gartner will do reports to make things look like however some large company wants. Even now, this is likely meant to slow down MarketBot and other's inroad into corporate desktop while some company like HP, IBM, or MS continue to develop their own printers.
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First off, The pilot, walt lux, of that was a close friends of our family. My dad and he would ssched together on the DC-10 of that time. In fact, Walt had allowed me to jump on that particular aircraft.
Secondly, the engine swap was not in the books, BUT ALL of the airlines did it that way. In fact, DC showed many of the companies how to shortcut that. American did NOT develop it.
Third, the Chinese (and other maintenance bases such as the one in Columbia) have screwed up a number of things royally. US Airways has had more than their fair share of issues from the Colombian hub.
In addition, the Chinnese themselves beat their nationalistic drums such as saying that they do not want to be dependant on ANYTHING from the west. Even to this day, unless the work is done in China, they reoutinely block every item. It is only a matter of time before China will raise the tariffs on Tesla and tell them if they will turn over a lot of IP that they will drop it.
It is sad when ppl like you are willing to scream that others are being nationalistic when the fuck-ups make the news, while you ignore and even uphold China's ability to block western goods.
Assume that it catchs fire. That is the SAME assumption that Boeing has made. That is why they not have the battery in the equivalence of a fireproof safe, where there is a value that allows for pressure to spill outwards. IOW, if it explodes or catches fire, it will be directed OUTWARD, not inward. That is safe.
You know, just about any of the commercial crafts are safe. The real issue is how are the airlines doing their maintenance. US airlines used to be the best. Now, they are offshoring and I think that they are an issue. For example, I grew up on American Airlines. BUT, they are now offshoring this to China. Recall the seats that were not fastened? That was the Chinese company. Scary. Very scary.
Give me a break. The plane is solid. And as to this battery, it is in a strong case that vents to the outside. If you are up in the air, then it will go out on its own. If down by the ground, not a problem.
.Sadly, they allowed their board to be composed of others outside of the aviation industry, who were more business idiots than engineers.
Any real issues with this plane has been the fact that Boeing did NOT build it themselves.
Regardless, I trust the craft, but think that it was expensive. Hopefully, next time, Boeing will revert back to how they do things.
Seriously, Tesla would be smart to get their work FAA certed so that other aircrafts, possibly 787, can install it and count that it will be solid.
Both parties about nothing but bread and circus.
Add the water and all of the rest to it. In addition, you now have to make a unique item per vehicle. OTOH, electric cars have the ability to have plugs outside. Putting one in a trailer hitch area makes life easy.
false. It will NOT abolish it. It will not be used against nations from the EU, but, it allows us to keep using it.
If you are ANY nation out there, China will spy on you. If you are aligned with China, the west is going to spy on you. If you are a western nation, we tend to not spy on each other (that is not quite accurate either, but close enough).
No, it is not a fuel cell. In this case, it is a CHEMICAL REACTION of water with aluminum. A fuel cell is basically, a catalysts for a fuel and oxidizer. IOW, with a fuel cell, you can continue to run it by inputting fuel/oxidizer. This is not the case.
Seriously, this looks like a great way to range extend electric cars by putting it on a small tow-able trailer, or something that plugs into the rear similar to the trailer hitch carriers.
It is should the WEST limit it? The answer is yes.
It is insane to allow a nation that is undergoing the world's largest military build-up ever seen in history, and who is forcing all of the prices to be artificially low, along with massive tariffs, to put their compromised systems into the West.
Heck, even China is bright enough to say no to Western goods into their systems.
Though to be fair, it was L-mart that claimed that 2 orions could go to mars and back. I note that Boeing pushes a new vehicle called the MTV. Basically, their idea of what would be in place of Bigelow's unit.
Sigh.
So, when you have nothing to say intelligently, you resort to trying to put-downs. Okay.
First off, what engineering issues are there with SpaceX vs. say Ares I or Atlas V?
One thing that you should realize is that hand production makes for issues with quality. OTOH, mass production on very accurate automated equipment means reproducability.
Sadly, your own fanbozism is getting in the way of clear thought on this. SpaceX's record is actually not that much different than any others. Yes, they had issues with F1. Of course, that last decade and last rocket, not this decade or this rocket. And most of the issues on F9/Dragon have not been quality or designs, but software. BUT, you will find that Atlas and Delta actually had a number of small issues. At least, I know that the Atlas did. I have friends that worked on it here in Colorado. And they will tell you that they required 3 launches to get it right (and even then they had an issue later on due to too much hand manufacturing). The biggest issue that SpaceX has now, is getting a single stable launcher that has only bug fixes. Supposedly, that is F9 V1.1, but I worry that they will change that after FH. We will see. BUT, the only way to make this work CORRECTLY, is to have a single well tested, well known system without part changes (or at least fully tested part changes). Simple as that.
How is the dragon optimized for LEO? It has the same PICA heat shielding. It has the same large trunk. It does have only 10 m^3, but this was not designed to got to mars on its own. It is designed to hook up with a BA unit or other transhab type item for living in. Its walls are as thick as Orions, with similar composition. Likewise, similar lifesupport. The real issue is consumables, which would be in the BA unit.
OTOH, those like you who push the Orion fail to note that 2 orions going to mars would have less than 40 m^3 of pressurized space, and far too little for 2 ppl to spend 6 months, let alone 12-15 months. They would be at each others throats by the time the mission was done.
As somebody else said, the orion to dragon is ford expedition to a ford explorer comparison. Pretty much the same vehicle, but one is larger. The difference is that the dragon never intended to go it alone, but add 180 m^3 (sundancer) extra space.
So, why do you declare otherwise, when NASA says that this is the case? What do you base it on?
it is a pension plan because most of the money came from Social Security taxes, etc.
What is needed is to return our taxes to sanity and make some other cuts, while doing some smart investments.
That stuff is total BS. The truth is that nations like China and Russia do NOT tell their full budget. In addition, it is already known that China is outspending us in terms of buying ability. Hell, even in terms of their % of GDP. And we had 2 wars going when they passed us in 2005.
Actually, there is very little that is commodity grade hardware with them. They use the same equipment in terms of strength, etc that NASA, L-MART, etc. use. They use the same Al-Li tanks, frames, etc. As far as that go, the dragon and the rest of their system is equal OR BETTER than anything coming our of L-Mart, Boeing, etc. And in fact, it makes perfectly GOOD sense to take the dragon, make a solid bus internally for equipment to hook to, add antenna on the outside, provide various forms of power (solar and nukes), and then you have a solid system to send to various destinations. They can send to Mars, or Europa. Heck, they can use this for a satellite to send to Jupiter, Saturn, etc. All on the cheap.
Look up Red Dragon.
And a CHEAP drilling from red dragon is simply a small heated ball using radiation for heat. Then have a FEW small experiments on board (ph; temp; salt; etc). As it drops, it sends a signal back to dragon that relays it back to home or clipper. Regardless, this would be relatively cheap to do. Note that the dragon could take samples above and do a lot more experiments on the ice/ground that it finds. The ball by sending back the small info would then confirm that it is similar composition or something different. Finally, it tells us how far we need to drill.
Red dragon FLOATs. Send it to europa, along with the clipper. Once on the surface a number of experiments can be done and the data sent to clipper or home.
It makes far more sense to send the red dragon. It can do it for a fraction of the price.
They steal it out in the open. China does it quietly, and refuses to be open about it. BUT, India lets it be known that they will steal and sell it around the world. At this time, all drugs and chemicals should be stopped from nations like China and India. In both cases, they steal patents and then use the manufacturing to create new companies and lower the prices. Then they can dump on the world market.
Change the names of the current ipad mini to ipad. Then call the original one, maxi ipad. That will take care of the issues.
Yeah, except for the fact that when we IDed a number of bank accounts, China refused to freeze them. So, they agreed with the UN, BUT they have ZERO intentions of keeping their word. That is no different than what they have done for the last 50 years.
Gartner's reports have always been useless. recall back in 94 when they produced a report that said Linux would be at least 2% of all internet servers by the end of the decade when it was already over 25%? It made it look like Linux would never threaten Windows, when in fact, they were already a massive threat.
Basically Gartner will do reports to make things look like however some large company wants. Even now, this is likely meant to slow down MarketBot and other's inroad into corporate desktop while some company like HP, IBM, or MS continue to develop their own printers.