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North Korean Missile Raised To Firing Position, Says US Official
An anonymous reader writes with this snippet from CNN: "North Korea has raised at least one missile into its upright firing position, feeding concerns that a launch is imminent, a U.S. official told CNN Thursday. This comes as the world continued to keep watch for a possible missile launch by the secretive government, and a day before U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is expected to arrive in the region. In the latest daily tough talk from the North, a government agency is quoted by the state-run media as saying that 'war can break out any moment.'"
Sounds like a perfect excuse for a preemptive strike
'nuff said.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
So if this missile strikes, or is believed to strike the US or one of our allies before being intercepted, does this constitute an act of war? If North Korea indicates the original trajectory was not intended to strike the US or one of our allies, but an unfortunate flaw diverted the course, do we still retaliate?
News for Nerds. Missiles and "Wargames"-like situations fit the bill for me.
UID nearly 3 million... you're probably mistaken. "News for nerds, stuff that matters". Take a look at the history of the site. It's been around for a long time and covered a lot of ground.
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I believe this would fall under the "stuff that matters" part of the slogan.
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While this may not be tech-related, it's good to have this kind of news up on everyone's radar, just in case (no pun intended).
shit or get off the pot.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
It's "stuff that matters".
Slashdot is news for nerds. Nerds care about just about anything remotely tech or science related as well as any major news story like this even if not tech related.
Its actually not much different than a normal news site except for most of the "celebrity" gossip and reality TV crap is filtered out - unless it has some technology tie-in.
"People who think they know everything are very annoying to those of us who do."-Mark Twain
NK is playing it's part as the world's bad guy, for which they'll be paid with loans, aid, and concessions.
I'm already bored with this show. Wake me up if anything actually happens.
"Bombs over Pyongyang" does have kind of a nice ring to it...
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
And what would you chest-thumping neocon thugs offer as an alternative? Remember, they don't have any oil, so "ten year invasion" isn't really a good answer.
Or am I mistaken?
Good point. If you, personally, the user "coffee-breaks", were killed in an airstrike, that wouldn't count as "Stuff That Matters", either. To anybody.
Last year my friends and I started a "North Korea bombing someone" pool, given they did it every five years or so... And I got week of anniversary of North Korea for $30....
I really don't want anything to happen though, that would be the most guilt ridden six hundred bucks I've ever received.
Isn't a North Korean rocket the ballistic equivalent of an American geography lesson?
And where do you think many computer components are made? I'll give you a hint: it goes by the initials ROK, and happens to still technically be in a state of war with North Korea.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
The missile OS is linux.
Here's the paragraphs further down the page - "After the raising of the missile Wednesday, it was not clear to U.S. officials why the North Korean government did not proceed with the firing. The U.S. official cautioned that the raising of the missile could have been just a trial run to ensure the equipment works or an effort to "mess" with the United States and the allies that are watching for a launch at any time." This happened yesterday. If it was important there would have been at least 1 big explosion by now.
"...stuff that matters."
Or am I mistaken?
Where do you think a large amount of your computer/television... components come from?
Yeah that would be South Korea
Is mostly ignore them, set up a bunch of anti-missile systems. Have the missile successfully shot down over NK territory before it even enters S. Korea.
Then sell lots of anti-missile systems to Europe, Asia and the rest of the world.
Excellent. The North Koreans should launch the missile and go away. Chances are that it will either explode during launch or land in the Sea of Japan.
Five days ago North Korea was moving their missiles and they're only now getting them in firing position? How long does it take to ready a missile? Seems like the US had patriot missiles halfway across the world in South Korea in less time than it's taken the North thus far.
You're mistaken. I'm glad to have cleared that up for you.
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China has been growing in economic and military influence, and seems to want to be taken seriously. If that is the case, this is their moment. They could put an end to this nonsense in a minute. They need to understand that it would be in their own national interest to smack this puppy on the snout, fast and sharp. If they just let it fester, and it leads to armed conflict, they will lose face.
There are just so many ways that this can go wrong...
misses the Pacific Ocean.
James Bond will step in any minute to save us... any minute now...
Isn't it awesome that we have entire news stories telling us we're on the precipice of war - without one single person quoted? CNN doesn't even bother to include a tag like "quoted on condition of anonymity" anymore - they just take their directions from the White House press office and fill in "official" wherever it would have made sense to have a real person substantiating a dubious claim.
Its like they want to be bombed back to the stone age just to see what it would be like. Korea's like a retarded kid poking a bully with a stick to see what would happen.
OR put in automotive terms its a D-bag in a souped up golf cart revving the cart in neutral next to an 400hp arial atom because he doesn't realize how massively outclassed they are.
The US has issues dealin with targets moving in the shadows. But give the combined might of the US Army-Navy-Airforce-and-Marines a fixed target with borders and a Flag and the US ambassador will be busy ignoring a UN resolution against reducing a country to glow-in-the-dark rubble before breakfast. N-K has a huge army. I think like 4th or 5th largest. I feel a great swell of pity for the families of the members of the North Korean army.
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Whenever a player quits EVE to go play WoW, the Average IQ of both games increase.
What a bunch of seoulless, warmongering scum.
Just knowing that someone is watching my missile move into an upright position would be enough to piss me off.
I want doomsday. Launch the fucking missile and let chaos rain !
"News for nerds" is just a slogan, it doesn't really mean anything.
Think of it like a good newspaper. Techy stuff, plus only the most important of the most important world news.
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...t was not clear to U.S. officials why the North Korean government did not proceed with the firing.
Because N. Korea will then "negotiate" for some "aid" from the US and they'll lower the missile - blackmail just like Dad.
The Chinese are probably thinking, "Fuck! We should have let MacArthur do his thing!"
Or am I mistaken?
A North Korean missile launch would alter the world's political, economic, and military landscape beyond recognition. But I would expect it to be a very intense, very dangerous, environment for the nerd and the geek.
ten-year, $3 trillion invasion, you mean.
But we can't pay for social services! In our own country at least.
No, no, approaching with your gun ports open is a sign of respect!
More likely Windows CE.
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That totally makes sense now. Back in the 80s we must have allowed the North Koreans to "steal" our computer technology...the thing is we allowed them to steal the plans to the WOPR.
And where do you think many computer components are made?
*cough*
That's where they're designed. They're made just over the border where the labour is really cheap. At least they were intil NK closed the business park to the south last week.
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If Kim had a shotgun and behaved like this in L.A., LAPD would have plugged him about 40 times by now.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
All of our stuff is made in areas that NoKo could realistically harm. Good tablets and phones come out of SoKo. Good cameras are made in Japan. Just about everything else is made in China. It'll matter when you can't get a new phone.
The invasion of Iraq took a couple weeks. The occupation and nation-building was what drug on for 10 years. In the case of NK we could probably go in wreck a bunch of stuff then leave and let China or SK move in and do all the hard work.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get out of range of North Korea's Missiles...
Which is different in what way exactly from how the past two administrations dealt with NK?
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Shouldn't it read: North Korean Missile Raised to Failing Position, Says US Official
I browse on +1 so AC's need not respond, I won't see it.
They want to be provoked or attacked. I'd like to believe they wouldn't be stupid enough to pull the trigger, but this is the closest they've ever gotten.
The other thing that confuses the hell out of me is that we are so bent on preventing Iran from getting nuclear weapons yet, NK has been working on this since the beginning of the Bush (duh-bya) terms and we have YET to take them very seriously. We are sort of taking them seriously but it's still nothing like what we do with Iran.
So, is it that we don't think they'll do it OR do we think they will and we can go in and flatten them and setup right next to China? But, isn't SK close enough for us?
Now to the paranoid stuff... Who's behind this? Is it an attempt to get another war started? We have a LOT of interest in that area, Japan, SK, Malaysia, Philippines, etc. What is the point of this for NK to do this? and why aren't we taking this as seriously as we do Iran?
We have seen in the media that NK is portrayed a whining baby with dangerous toys.
China probably doesn't want to do anything because they are so close but if they felt threatened they could just run over them and be that much closer to SK.
So again, what is the deal with this? I hope that it's just saber rattling and NK will back down but they've done it enough that if they back down again it will only prove to most of the other nations they are a joke.
Oh and another thought occurs, is this a diversion? Could they be in league with Iran and/or Syria? I know we as Americans tend to have the attention span of a goldfish but still... This is really a threat we shouldn't be totally scoffing at.
I know this didn't come out exactly as I intended but it's the culmination of a lot of thoughts I've been "noodling" around for a while about NK.
Thanks.
If you don't think someone threatening to shoot missiles at you is "Stuff that matters", you're a fucking moron.
I wonder how many more "ok for real this time..." the NK has left in them. Not sure what Kim and Co. are expecting the rest of the world to do. They are really only two possible outcomes: one is to put everything away and try and work out the sanction problems, two, pull the trigger and be decimated.
Either way, NK has changed itself forever, they just don't realize it yet. There's no way they are going back to their "old ways' after this.
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Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
Bring on the ABL and take it out.
Likewise, we should launch our minuteman III next day.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
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Python: 'And then suddenly you have a language which says "we're all stuck with whatever the whiniest coder wants".'
should distract the entire populace of NK thoroughly and destabilize the regime. Particularly, if we included enough Dove chocolates. Man, I love those things.
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China needs to give North Korea the spanking they so dearly need and tell them to start playing nice with others in the neighborhood.
I also find it hilarious that the US went after Iraq for supposed WMD that never existed, but when North Korea actually has and flaunts them the US does nothing. I guess its just easier to bomb the shit out of an impotent nation then one that can actually raise their missiles.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
Look... they just figured out how to use the hydraulics to raise the missile. Everyone is giving them WAY too much credit. lol
Well... we can spin it in a techie way...
North Korea is threatening to annihilate the best average internet connection country on the planet.
Elitism on an internet forum, running in the Special Olympics, etc...
(same AC you responded to).
"Nation building"??? "Nation building"???????
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
If by that you mean "giving shittons of money to Haliburton and Blackwater and the like", then yah. Otherwise, no, not so much.
I must say that I much preferred Kim Jong-un when he was doing Gangnam Style.
And some of the really weird shit, like the theft of a million pounds of maple syrup.
"Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
Is brinksmanship with someone other than the United States.
An attack by North Korea would pretty much demand a Russian response, but the problem the Russians have is that they don't really have a well-oiled and high tech military to respond with.
They have creaky, Soviet-era military technologies, a military brass probably about as corrupt as the civilian leadership and likely more skilled in sucking up to Putin's circle than combat -- they probably have few officers left with combat experience from Afghanistan and almost no combat troops or pilots with front line experience unless you want to count Chechnya or their "invasion" of Georgia, which is kind of like saying you're an expert hunter because you shot a dog in fenced yard.
So they are at a major tactical disadvantage from a hardware and people perspective. Now, they could use the brute-force method, but I doubt they even have the wherewithal to mount an invasion of PRK despite actually having a small shared border and their air force likely doesn't have what it takes to mount a strategic bombing campaign.
And none of this includes the risks they might take facing off with China, with whom they share a long border and a history of hostility and a growing trade deficit along their border.
The Russians would likely "win" a war with PRK but it would be a significant effort for them, would probably end up with Vladivostok getting leveled, which would be a huge economic problem.
In what experts are calling "the ultimate cry for attention", North Korea leader Kim Jung-Un blew himself up with his own nucleur weapons today. In an ironic twist, the missiles homed in on the largest Korean target available. Upon hearing this news Mrs. Un, who had been ordered to love Kim Jung with all of her heart, celebrated by feeding her people.
And probably release a shitload of Higgs Bosons in the process. Or something.
You must be really really close to the border and willing to jump in front of the impact zone. The NK Missile program is, well, rather prehistoric. In addition to a large amount of them having failing warheads that won't explode on impact, they are not very accurate.
The fear is really, if DPRK fires first they will let off a whole lot of artillery fire which would hit something and sting a bit. After they fired, air power would level their tanks and artillery making it a one sided war.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
"Let" them move in? I don't think either of them are terribly eager to play international janitor...
This needs to be handled with a great deal of delicacy.
I believe I'd tend to put half the subs there, and open all the nuke doors, and lets the news coverage speak for itself. Other words are not needed.
Its hard to shell the SK Capital if your army has been turned to glass.
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If it remains erect for more then 4 hours.
Knowing Kim Jong Un, it'll be over in seconds.
Have gnu, will travel.
I've decided this whole modernity thing is bullshit. Shut it down. Shut it down, FOREVER.
If it remains upright for more than 4 hours, we'd better call Kim Jong Un's doctor. Hopefully he didn't disconnect -all- of the phone lines to the U.S./allies.
Duh... Big Deal! USA has hundreds of rockets aimed at N.K. and here we hear hubbub about "one" friggin' rocket....
I guess the NK gesticulations are seen as a godsend by the White House : everybody seems to forget about the financial crisis and the sacrifices that come ahead.
A Kim Jong Hard-Un? :D
Not my joke Robbaz does a bit on it on his Youtube page: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1AD2LWAc9Q
I woinder if someone can lob a pack of malware at NK's missile silos and shut them down not unlike the israeli stuxnet attack on iran's centrifuges.
It does seem to be a bloodless way of defusing things.
One drone, one Hellfire missile -> no more Nork missile on launch pad.
Deny everything. Drone? What drone? Oh, that crazy Kim he sees drones everywhere. Crummy Nork missile just blew up on the pad, right.
Nudge nudge wink wink saynomore.
According to CNN they lowered the missile again not much later. What can I say? Some folks just can't keep it up.
Seriously, though. The missiles they're tinkering with are using a less volitile fuel that doesn't have to be used right after fueling, so they could be messing around with this thing for days before the oxidizer they're using ruins their new toy.
See? There's a nerdy side to every news story.
===== Murphy's Law is recursive. =====
Moments before raising the missile into firing position, Kim Jong-un was overheard stating, "You want flee erections in Nolth Kolea, Amelican pig dogs? Flee this erection!"
We need them. Somebody needs to stand outside Kim's palace and yell, "Jump! Jump! Jump!" so that he will make his suicidal move.
Anyone else expecting the launch to end with the rocket tip opening up with a giant clown flag that says "Kaboom!!!!!!!!!!!!" With multiple exclamation marks because they wanted a really big boom.
This is NK's way of giving us the finger.
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
I got a kick out of this image:
http://countdowntoeternityblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/article-2307290-193b977d000005dc-735_634x388.jpg
Look at a map!
South Korea would make a lovely island with an amazing view of the new seafront. It would even glow at night. Very romantic.
I only look human.
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that's what we should done in Iraq, let them busy themselves rebuilding. instead we continued to destroy things to make contractors rich. one things for sure, stupid idea to think "we'll impose democracy at gunpoint". that same mentality is why afghanistan such a failure, now we're negotiating with Taliban groups.
What, like Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Look them up on google maps. Mad Max is a lie. The desolation, destruction and utter lack of humanity is just ordinary everyday Australia.
And you wouldn't need to nuke all of NK, just the capitol, kill the leadership and it is over. Koreans aren't muslims fanatics (Iraq/Afghanistan) or fighting the Xth foreign invader (Vietnam) they are closer to Germany and then the population in the concentration camps.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
My friendly neighbourhood Dictator says, they cannot lauch... not just yet. I heard that this rocket is too round on the top. It needs to be pointy! Round is not scary. Pointy is scary. This will put the smile on the faces of the enemy. They will think it is huge robot dildo flying towards them :)
Why am I reminded of Star Wreck 4½? Can't remember the exact quote, but...
"Alert the enemies, that we're about to warm up the twinkler banks... soon."
"Alert the enemies, that we're about to warm up the twinkler banks... now."
(Several hours later)
"All right, if you want it. So be it. We will not make any more warnings. All light balls and twinkler banks... feuer."
(The ensuing fight consists mostly of dodging maneuvers of "turn right very slowly" variety)
* citation needed
Ohhhh wow, R'okay, maybe North-a Korea fire missile in wrong-a direction and brow up best-a friend China? Den dey knock-a-down shitty wall!!!
DAMN U NORTH KOREA!!
thanks cia friends :) you are luring the public to attack another nation based on bullshit :) thanks for the 9-11 inside job too! thanks for all of the shit you put this great nation through to enrich yourselves and your corporate masters :)
but most of all, thank slashdot, who can't see this is another psy-op inside job to get more money out of you dumb motherfuckers. yeah!! everyon call for preemptive stike! you slashdotters are so smart :)
For decades the dribbling betas of the West were told by the propaganda mass media outlets that reunification between East and West Germany was unthinkable, and even if it did happen, it would take 30+ years from a 'go' date. When the Russians withdrew, it happened virtually overnight.
The USA plays the role in Korea the USSR did in East Germany, and for the same reason. The USSR did not want Germany (at that time) to become the dominant power-house in mid-Europe (and even so, West Germany came close to that position). The USA has promised Japan to prevent its former slave colony, Korea, from becoming the OTHER economic powerhouse of the Far East. America has forces in the South to prevent a CAPITALIST reunification of North and South.
The owners of Slashdot, like the rest of the mainstream media, continue to pump their vile propaganda down your throats. Are you really so pathetic that you will continue to believe this nonsense?
How about...a nice game of chess?
For all of our 'enemies', the US has been far better at Propaganda demonizing them than at understanding them and working against their weaknesses.
We have a huge and hugely expensive military. So we keep playing our strong card, and keep losing the resulting wars.
Insanity.
Al Qaeda, Iraq, Iran, China, NK, ... all have serious weaknesses that it would be easy to exploing. Iran is burdened by Mullahs that a lot of the voters would be glad to be rid of, there are a lot of things that would undermine the Mullahs, support the voters. Instead, we continuously increase sanctions and other pressures, providing the Mullah's an excuse for the lousy economy.
Etc. No imagination.
And all this assumes that there is a definable 'national interest' that actually helps us in the 99%, which is false. And that our gov can actually accomplish something besides repression, which is increasingly false.
Unless someone panics and pops open a small can of instant sunshine. Then someone else, who doesn't want to look like a wuss, chucks a few catering size ones in random directions.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
There's always the possibility that the missile crew, being under orders to be ready to launch, was just doing a routine systems checkout.
During the Cuban missile crisis, US experts thought that the USSR was "sending a message". The missile sites in Cuba were easy to spot because they were laid out exactly the same way as in the USSR. Decades later, on the 40th anniversary of the crisis, there was a get-together of some of the major players from all sides. Someone asked about the layout of the sites. The Russian officer who'd been responsible for the layout said "No, we just did it that way because that was what it said to do in the field manual." Everyone in the room with military experience nodded in agreement.
CNN would like to apologize for the mistranslation. The article should have read "North Korean penis raised to firing position". As a further addendum to this story a North Korean Communist staffer was heard to say "So sorry, Un; we can try again later". The staffer was killed and later imprisoned.
The party's over
roman_mir's back.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Sounds like a perfect reason for an orbital laser platform....
I've only seen very little coverage of this, but it would not be very hard for NK to launch a modified nuke to detonate high in the atmosphere causing an EMP pulse to take out the electronics of most of the south, and a good part of Japan and China.
Now you might be thinking that this would be bad for NK as well, but you think about it, it would level the playing field in the short term considerably. Yes, the U.S. could still fly bombers from across the ocean and maybe to sorties from carriers (if they aren't affected by the EMP blast).
In the meantime a couple of million NK troops with basic gear could flood across the border while U.S. and South Korean forces would be left to their basic non-electronic gear.
Sounds like a need for IP V6 virtual hosting.
This reminds me, last night it occurred to me that he might have a whole different attitude if he and his generals had a session.
I got to thinking, you can get recreational weed in Washington State, and since it's coastal there's no need to transship across states where it's illegal. Just FedEx some weed to those guys.
Logistical nightmare!
First, FedEx doesn't ship there. I bet UPS doesn't either. I got as far as finding out that "humanitarian" US Postal shipments are allowed; but drugs might be problematic. Also, I couldn't find an actual address for Kim Jong Un or "Dear Leader's Palace" or anything like that.
If anybody could pull it off though, I think it would actually top Steve Job's famous call to the Vatican.
Kim Jong Un: No, you idiots, I said we need to have a missile ERECTION! ERECTION! We should vote on what to do with them!
just NK giving the finger to the US. :)
...gets an erection from.
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Heavy, man ... that's heavy ...
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Won't somebody PLEASE think of the smartphones?!?!
When does this happen in the movie?
It's simply time to overthrow the place. America is excellent at destabilizing govts. Whatever happens afterward can be South Korea's concern. They fire that missle, we should strike them viciously and reduce the entire country to nothing.
Remember the Squeaky Axis of Evil gets the Grease.
Or greased.
Or Greece
(Of course, with the current state of their economy, what Squeaky Axis of Evil would want them?)
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
YAY!
The boy King finally got it up.
By and large, the U.S. doesn't believe what they say. But the public threats and provocations may help convince the North Koreans (who mostly get their news from official sources, or not at all) that the regime is powerful and active, and its enemies are dangerous.
At the end, she's going.. "will you cum already? I'm late for work!'
Have you fscked your local propeller head today?
Purple penis pumpernickel.
Tip: If you want to have cheap affordable healthcare in the USA... I hope someone is listening...
Regulate common procedures/pricing.
Cap bed/nightly costs
Cap emergency room 'wait' fees. etc.
For example, Canadian traveling abroad is covered by Canadian Health insurance, but only to what WOULD be covered in Canada. No more than $535/Night for a hospital bed, and so forth. (There is a list url?)
Simply addup the actual hours/costs for a procedure in 'reality' (not including hidden administrative costs so common in hospitals), and set that as the maximum.. When common operations/procedures fall to 1/10th the currently charged 'price', hospitals will be forced to become more efficient and Insurance rates SHOULD drop accordingly. Hell Regulate profits in Insurance companies also.
This also has the advantage of leaving new/experimental procedures wide open, and those wealthy enough can still purchase a longer life, while subsidizing common care for all.
ObamaCare is like the worst possible idea anyone could think of... (Unless your goal is to MAKE MONEY, FOLLOW THE MONEY) Force everyone to get insurance, allow the rampent pricing which is only encouraged so that added costs make increased premiums customers will be FORCED to pay.
May be contain license with their computer lol
Love my money
Why is it always the poster that spells the joke out for everyone who gets the mod points? It was funny without your explanation, thanks very much indeed.
Ah, Americans. Humour is to be a 2x4-to-the-cranium or it's just too subtle
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Or am I mistaken?
Obvious Troll is obvious. There's always one of you pricks ready to wail "this isn't news for nerds!" and it has long since become a tiresome, unimaginative and uninteresting troll.
As of this post, 250+ comments says this is news for nerds. Complaint, meet reality.
..Mullah or Pope, Preacher or Poet, who was it wrote: "Give any one species too much rope and they'll fuck it up"?
No, I didn't want to write a big long response to every point since this is not a formal debate. I thought it would be more cooperative to first let other people discuss the other issues with the post.
So far no posts really responded to you, so I guess nobody gave a shit.
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That's not Florida silly! That is XANTH
I only look human.
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NK has no oil.
Casteism
not all that secretive if one can find out in short order about a single missile being raised into firing position...
I doubt that Kim Jong Un would let Dennis Rodman get blown up in a nuclear blast. So I guess whatever city he is in is safe.
Then we can sequentially send each Harlem Globetrotter over there to buddy up with Kim Jong Un. Once that's done, we'll strategically position a Harlem Globetrotter in each major city in countries that N Korea is hostile towards.
There's no way they'll strike!
For example, sending comrades to forced labor camps (where 40% die of malnutrition) if they participated in organized gatherings to mourn the death of Kim Jong Il, but "didn't cry and didn't seem genuine." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/13/north-korea-punish-mourners-insincere-kim-jong-il_n_1204377.html
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
Bombing civilians and calling it cost of doing business?
Apparently you've never sat through a class on the Law of Armed Conflict. Intentionally targeting civilians is forbidden. When a military target is bombed and civilians casualties are accidentally incurred, military professionals call it "collateral damage" (your screed is the first place I've heard it called "cost of doing business"). Many resources are expended in order to minimize collateral damage: teams of lawyers have to approve every target, then very expensive smart bombs are dispatched.
The "Greatest Generation" didn't do any of that -- to the contrary, residential neighborhoods in Dresden and Tokyo were intentionally targeted with incendiary bombs, and civilian casualties were the goal. Does that make the current generation "Greater than the Greatest"?
US may not be quite as beligerant as NK
Are you saying that NK's teams of lawyers may not be quite as concerned about sparing civilians as the US teams; or that NK's smart bombs may not be quite as good as US smart bombs about using low yields to take out military targets while sparing nearby civilian structures?
Or maybe you and the folks who modded you up are just speaking out of the anti-American chips on your shoulders.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
There is basically no scenario in which North Korea can start a war and "win".
Nobody is worried about a scenario in which NK wins. Everybody is worried about a scenario in which both sides lose (lots of lives). There are are plenty of plausible scenarios like that.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
Well, you know, once you've seen one Asian with his missile raised to firing position.....
Over 60 years ago... When was they last time the US has openly threatened another nation with nuclear warfare?
Our policies are dynamic and evolving, not and are not as static and entrenched as you are trying to imply. Let us hope the US foreign policy isn't identical to the same policy we used during a massive desperate war on two fronts.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
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missile with 10 ton yields are the current technology. Multiple strikes are possible. All of which can disable atterillery and bunkers.
If you can build a bunker that will stop a MOAB, then you can also build one that will stop any of the nuclear warheads the US currently has. The construction of such bunkers would be nearly identical, just thicker and deeper for a nuke bunker.